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I was wondering what the Max SD card size (2 ,4 , or 8 gb)I can use on the touch pro
16 gig
But remember... its not size that counts, its how you use it
Actually, its been tested for up to 32gb.
Well, as long as it's MicroSD you can use any size. But I don't think 32gb is available yet.
If I haven't missed anything that is.
you can use adapter for conect normal SD 32gb to microSD port
Officially supports upto 32gb....but I wouldn't put anything larger than 16gb on it.
Siara87 said:
you can use adapter for conect normal SD 32gb to microSD port
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Yes. someones already done a sd to micro sd adapter hack to their touchpro and used a 32 gig sd card then. Too bad they cost 100 bucks for just a ribbon and card holder. id be tempted to use my spare back and make the same up.
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/htc-touch-pro/121398-8gb-16gb-now-we-take-over-modded-tp-w-32gb.html#
My 32GB microSD works fine. Sandisk if you care.
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My 32GB microSD works fine. Sandisk if you care.
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Oh yea, were did you get a 32gb MICRO SD at. And how much was it.
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Well, as long as it's MicroSD you can use any size. But I don't think 32gb is available yet.
If I haven't missed anything that is.
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KD8DNS said:
Oh yea, were did you get a 32gb MICRO SD at. And how much was it.
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I just find it funny to combine these 2 quote... it prove that people don't read. BTW, why do you need a 32GB on a PHONE?
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I just find it funny to combine these 2 quote... it prove that people don't read. BTW, why do you need a 32GB on a PHONE?
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Why did the chicken go across the street?? BECAUSE IT COULD!
Power!! Showing off!! I want the power, too! (But not enough to do THAT to my fuze)
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Why did the chicken go across the street?? BECAUSE IT COULD!
Power!! Showing off!! I want the power, too! (But not enough to do THAT to my fuze)
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you want Power? when I first got my Kaiser, I brought it back to Vietnam to show off... then I got kicked in the butt by my little cousin who own a Nokia Vertu Ferrari edition... The phone is not a touch screen, nor have all the functions as my Kaiser and he only have a 2GB card in it... but it cost him $11k
I really don't understand why 32GB... I only use 3GB on my 8GB microSD. if the phone graphic performance is as good as the Iphone, then I wouldn't mind having a big microSD card in it to play DVD movies... but not on this phone. The graphic drivers are just not good enough for it.
Well, I have a 16gb in my fuze, and everyone is impressed with the sliding KB, Tv-out, vga, BT Audio, gyrator2, scroll wheel, etc. Plus, I let my daughter at UNC-CH (Junior) take it for a few days, and it's a real guy-magnet, not that she really needs it, of course. (She normally uses a tilt)
BTW-- All in fun!!!!
32G for music and media man. That's why. My friend has an Iphone and thinks it's the jam. But my Fuze, once I find a 32G will put his Iclone to shame.
it doesnt matter if it got tested i have a 8 gb sandisk and my 4 gb get more pics and video then my 8 gb so idk wat to tell u
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I just find it funny to combine these 2 quote... it prove that people don't read. BTW, why do you need a 32GB on a PHONE?
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One of the messages you quoted was responding to this:
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My 32GB microSD works fine. Sandisk if you care.
So I don't see how you think juxtaposing those quotes says anything about people not reading - other than yourself.
In response to your other question, I have 16GB on my phone, and wish that the phone had an easily accessible "external" microsd.
I use about half of the 16GB for work; the phone serves as a micro pc for short-term use. I also use it as a music-player. If there were a separate microsd it would be easy to interchange them for movies, music or other media.
I have a 16gb and it works fine. 32gb is the max.
I am a newbie to this board. I purchased a micro sd card at Amazon. It worked for one day on my transformer. I took it out and then inserted it the following day. It got swallowed up and I couldn't remove it. My transformer also didn't recognize that the SD card was there. It took many hours to remove it. I ended up using a fine pair of twizzers. I read that amazon is carrying a lot of fake SD cards from China...read the reviews on Amazon if you are interested. I wonder if that was the problem...however I used a adapter and the card worked fine on my computer but not on my droid phone nor camera where it alerted me the card was damaged.
Has this happened before? Is this a glitch with the transformer...the card getting stuck? Since it was day 13 of purchasing it at Best Buy, I returned it. Now I want another one and can't decide to wait and purchase the prime or buy the same one cheaper.
I also had another problem with my tablet. I like watching House on Fox TV. It was barely possible. I would get alerts saying my mobile is not compatible. I got a lot of streaming issues where it would stop every few seconds and load up.
Does anyone know if the prime would solve this issue? It only has 1gb of ram. Watching Netflix was fine...not Fox TV.
thanks in advance
i can't help you with the memory card but it's usually a good idea to stick with the name brand cards.
i say good job on returning the transformer while you still could. i think the prime is a pretty big leap over the original and at an extra $100 it's a bargain imo.
as for the netflix versus foxtv viewing. netflix was probably fine because you were using the netflix app. foxtv is laggy because it is probably running through flash which the transformer couldn't handle properly for some reason. flash on android in general is a mixed bag and i don't know if the extra power of the prime will fix it. my guess is it will be better but can't say by how much. i think when prime eventually gets the ice cream sandwich update is when we'll truly see what it's capable of which hopefully is a whole lot.
From the sounds of it more like you insert it wrong or something as opposed to a fake sd card. Fame or not it should go on and out the same imo
I don't know what happened. It wasn't inserted wrong. I pushed it in and it went in too far and I didn't have the grip of my nails to pull the SD out.
I just saw an ad for the original transformer with 32gb for $389. I'm still can't decide to wait and pay the extra $125+++ and get the prime just for speed but 16GB or spend $389 and get a larger 32 GB drive. I am not using it for games but just for movies. I also hope to use the movie maker app to edit my long videos and burn to DVDs.
anyone think it is worth it to wait for the prime which is somewhat lighter in weight in but faster than the origjinal--- or buy the original with double the GB for a lot cheaper price now and use it for 6 months and wait for what ASUS offers after the first of the year when they get even a faster tablet and buy it then after all the kinks are worked out with the operating system?
The prime is built to aim more towards gamers than anyone else. The quad/quint core is only used to its full potential when dealing with graphically intense apps... like games.
For most other purposes, the transformer 1 is more than capable of handling.
Regarding the card issue, this is the first I've heard of it. But I'll tell you this. I don't know if you inserted it wrong or not, since I wasn't there. But through all my years of tech help of other people, the #1 issue that most people run into when they say they have a bad card or their device card slot is bad is actually them inserting the card wrong. I'll leave it at that.
Please feel free to ask plenty of questions. Myself and other experienced android users will be more than happy to help you. I may appear cranky at times, but that's just my other personalities. Take my advice. Multiple personality disorder, when left untreated, can result in poor health and social relationships with others.
thanks for your advice. So you are saying this quad processor won't make streaming or viewing movies any faster ---or video editing [large files of copy, cut and paste] quicker? I am a graphic artist and hope one day that I can find a photoshop -equal app where I can take big files and tweek them while keeping my processor quick enough during this action.
otherwise I will buy the original 32gb tablet for $389 and replace it in a year or two when tablets are more advance and prices hopefully are better.
Someone on here got a used Transformer from Amazon and was pretty stoked about it; it still had most of the plastic on it and didn't look as if it'd been used much, if at all. You could swoop up a 32GB unit for $297 (it's also eligible for a SquareTrade warranty, if you're into that [some cats swear by it]) and chill with that till Prime shows up and is worked out. Just a thought!
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thanks for your advice. So you are saying this quad processor won't make streaming or viewing movies any faster ---or video editing [large files of copy, cut and paste] quicker? I am a graphic artist and hope one day that I can find a photoshop -equal app where I can take big files and tweek them while keeping my processor quick enough during this action.
otherwise I will buy the original 32gb tablet for $389 and replace it in a year or two when tablets are more advance and prices hopefully are better.
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thanks for your advice. So you are saying this quad processor won't make streaming or viewing movies any faster ---or video editing [large files of copy, cut and paste] quicker? I am a graphic artist and hope one day that I can find a photoshop -equal app where I can take big files and tweek them while keeping my processor quick enough during this action.
otherwise I will buy the original 32gb tablet for $389 and replace it in a year or two when tablets are more advance and prices hopefully are better.
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That would be a yes and no. In theory if it brings enough of the processor cores online for the job, yes by brute force. Also yes in the sense that something there is probably a way for a movie player to take advantage of it, but no in the sense that you probably won't find such a soon enough to care, and no in the sense that at the hardware level it might not always. Logic there: AFAIK they use a baby core for simple tasks and start reving up to the quadtacular power house as needed, so e.g. if you just e-mail you get mega battery life. Try playing Need For Speed non stop and it'll drain faster but run smooth.
Can't say if it's any good but there is an Adobe Photoshop Express app; for simple tasks it might suffice but it may vastly fall short of what you may need. My expertise in your field is minimal so take it with a grain of salt.
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You mention that you could not grip the card with your nails to pull it out. To remove the card, you push in on it to release it and it should pop far enough out to grab with your fingers. It is not like the sim card on some phones that you pull out. It is a push to insert ( till it clicks) then push again ( till it clicks) to remove.
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thanks for your advice. So you are saying this quad processor won't make streaming or viewing movies any faster ---or video editing [large files of copy, cut and paste] quicker? I am a graphic artist and hope one day that I can find a photoshop -equal app where I can take big files and tweek them while keeping my processor quick enough during this action.
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I didn't say that. I said to the average user or users who don't game or don't care much for those really high pixel movies won't notice a difference. If you're a graphic artist, then yes the prime will be perfect for you. Again, it all comes down to what you want to use it for.
otherwise I will buy the original 32gb tablet for $389 and replace it in a year or two when tablets are more advance and prices hopefully are better.
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If you want to use photoshop and all the graphically intense stuff, then yes I'd recommend waiting for the prime.
thanks for all your advise. I will wait and get the prime...however I am quite disappointed that the new docking has only 1 USB and not 2....
regarding inserting the SD card that got stuck. Yes, it is possible I didn't push it in hard enough to have it pop out but it was stuck so far in it the port that I was afraid to try to push more to ejact the SD. Regardless when it was stuck in my old transformer didn't recognize it
ok so this video about tegra 3 says that flash performance will be greater than before
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtciCHZNE20&feature=relmfu
Saw these on newegg the other day. Specs are impressive including an A10 arm CPU @1.5 ghz and Mali-400 GPU, with ICS out of the box... but for around $120? What's the catch here..? Yeah it looks quite a bit like a Dell Streak 7 at first glance - 480x800 res and only has 4GB for storage and only 512 ram... There's a lack of reviews on this thing and I'm considering getting one... But can anyone give me a reason to not buy one?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0U009E3479
More detailed specs on Buy.com:
http://www.buy.com/pr/product.aspx?sku=230139359&sellerid=18700237
Any thoughts would be appreciated!
Nothing as far as I know. I remember reading about this tablet being the 1st ICS available. It was a GB tablet that didn't sell well, so they converted it to ICS.
BUT! I might be thinking of another similar tablet.
its kinda like a banana split, without the split
...did that say usb 3?
There's just so many that fit into that category Thanks for such quick input!
Another down side is no sd/micro sd slot built in. But with a usb port perhaps a game controller could be used? And did I see right that this thing has usb 3.0? Even if external sd/micro sd isn't available with usb3 transferring data should go pretty quick.
It has it's faults for sure but the hardware alone makes it worth the $120... All I would have to do is add a few games and snes9x ex and fpse... serious budget gaming tablet potential here.
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There's just so many that fit into that category Thanks for such quick input!
Another down side is no sd/micro sd slot built in. But with a usb port perhaps a game controller could be used? And did I see right that this thing has usb 3.0? Even if external sd/micro sd isn't available with usb3 transferring data should go pretty quick.
It has it's faults for sure but the hardware alone makes it worth the $120... All I would have to do is add a few games and snes9x ex and fpse... serious budget gaming tablet potential here.
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im actually thinkin about buyin it
Huh, would ya' look at that.
Being a poor student and not having a laptop sucks, so maybe this one could comfort me all those harsh, horrifying hours of class where I have to write my notes on paper.
That's right, I have use paper! And a pen!
Does anyone have any experience with a tablet as a notetaking tool?
I get the feeling that it'd work out pretty nicely, but you never know.
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I noticed in the USA version (@3:50- Rogers HTC One X Review on Youtube) that there is a partition on the HTC One X of ~2GB for Apps.
Does anyone think that 1) this partition can be removed, and 2) that more space can be made available rather than the messily >10gb on this phone?
These questions are basically my make or break for HTC and my upgrade. I may end up waiting of the SIII if I can't at least have 12GB of storage space made available.
What 12gb, this phone has 32gb of internal memory and 26gb was user accessible. Do you.think that you posted this in one s section or what? This is one x And dev thread, post this kind of questions in Q&A thread from the next time.
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Keep in mind you have the international HSPA version.. I am talking about the ATT LTE One X releasing on May 6th.
Watch the video i mentioned
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What 12gb, this phone has 32gb of internal memory and 26gb was user accessible. Do you.think that you posted this in one s section or what? This is one x And dev thread, post this kind of questions in Q&A thread from the next time.
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Umm, this is in the One XL General thread. So he's right.
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I noticed in the USA version (@3:50- Rogers HTC One X Review on Youtube) that there is a partition on the HTC One X of ~2GB for Apps.
Does anyone think that 1) this partition can be removed, and 2) that more space can be made available rather than the messily >10gb on this phone?
These questions are basically my make or break for HTC and my upgrade. I may end up waiting of the SIII if I can't at least have 12GB of storage space made available.
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it's make or break over 2gb?? getting a little picky are we not? i see a lot of peoples points on the memory, some people just need it either for movies or just files in general.
i'm grandfathered in to unlimited, i have wi-fi at home, work, and college to boot, i have a tablet with 48gb and a full-size usb to slap my thumb drives into, and a great cloud setup via dropbox, google music, splashtop, and photobucket. i simply have more storage then i know what to do with...
i feel for those who have to skimp by deleting this and that just to have room.
here are some links to some good devices that are cheap and would make you a little happier, honestly, if your upgrading, i would sell the phone and keep something like an atrix around, you could afford all this stuff and a decent year old phone for the price of a one x.
acer a500 tablet: 16gb, sdcard, full usb, 10.1" 1280x800, tegra 2 ~$230
32gb micro sdcard ~$22-30
32gb thumb drive ~$19-22
total=~$275
movies are better, ps3 controllers work perfectly, a wireless mouse is fine, battery lasts me 3 days, you can turn it into a laptop, has icecream 4.0 roms, and on and on...
i'm mean seriously, if you want entertainment be smart. you don't need the top of the line phone to have fun, try something that is here now and cheap.
but what ever, that was the longest 2 cents i think i have ever wrote...and i doubt anybody will listen lol.
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it's make or break over 2gb?? getting a little picky are we not? i see a lot of peoples points on the memory, some people just need it either for movies or just files in general.
i'm grandfathered in to unlimited, i have wi-fi at home, work, and college to boot, i have a tablet with 48gb and a full-size usb to slap my thumb drives into, and a great cloud setup via dropbox, google music, splashtop, and photobucket. i simply have more storage then i know what to do with...
i feel for those who have to skimp by deleting this and that just to have room.
here are some links to some good devices that are cheap and would make you a little happier, honestly, if your upgrading, i would sell the phone and keep something like an atrix around, you could afford all this stuff and a decent year old phone for the price of a one x.
acer a500 tablet: 16gb, sdcard, full usb, 10.1" 1280x800, tegra 2 ~$230
32gb micro sdcard ~$22-30
32gb thumb drive ~$19-22
total=~$275
movies are better, ps3 controllers work perfectly, a wireless mouse is fine, battery lasts me 3 days, you can turn it into a laptop, has icecream 4.0 roms, and on and on...
i'm mean seriously, if you want entertainment be smart. you don't need the top of the line phone to have fun, try something that is here now and cheap.
but what ever, that was the longest 2 cents i think i have ever wrote...and i doubt anybody will listen lol.
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While your thoughts are sound, you'll never win this arguement with everyone, myself included!
Cloud storage is great, but only works if your always connected. I am an airline pilot. I need local storage on my phone for photos, music, docs etc and cannot use the cloud while literally in the cloud.
You know what I can't wait for? For my airline to get free, unlimited inflight wifi. Then my arguement becomes mute and 16gb on a phone will be more than enough. Before you say you wouldn't want your Pilots using wifi, we could update our weather with maps, notams, etc far easier with tablets etc than the airplanes equipement. I know I'm going off topic here, but while most (not all) of my First Officers use ipads, I prefer my galaxy tab. When they see maps and approach plates on the wider screen instead of that unnatural squarish ipad screen, they all ask me "what's that!!!!".
At any rate, different people have different needs. I use dropbox, google docs for non aviation and union stuff, google + photo upload, I live in Canada so no google music but I prefer to have my music locally. Videos, whole dif matter, a 15 minute hi def video can be close to a gig, it sucks to have a great phone with a great camera and before taking video you might have to see if you have the space!
You know an easy solution? The Iphone comes in three storage solutions, so should the one series. Cloud enough for you, buy the cheap 16gb version, partial cloud type of guy? 32gb it is, music and video nut? Here's an expensive 64gb variant for you! Can anyone argue that is a bad idea for a company trying to turn their fortunes around? If the galaxy s3 outsells the one series in North America, their handicaped storage will be one reason (pun intended) why.
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While your thoughts are sound, you'll never win this arguement with everyone, myself included!
Cloud storage is great, but only works if your always connected. I am an airline pilot. I need local storage on my phone for photos, music, docs etc and cannot use the cloud while literally in the cloud.
You know what I can't wait for? For my airline to get free, unlimited inflight wifi. Then my arguement becomes mute and 16gb on a phone will be more than enough. Before you say you wouldn't want your Pilots using wifi, we could update our weather with maps, notams, etc far easier with tablets etc than the airplanes equipement. I know I'm going off topic here, but while most (not all) of my First Officers use ipads, I prefer my galaxy tab. When they see maps and approach plates on the wider screen instead of that unnatural squarish ipad screen, they all ask me "what's that!!!!".
At any rate, different people have different needs. I use dropbox, google docs for non aviation and union stuff, google + photo upload, I live in Canada so no google music but I prefer to have my music locally. Videos, whole dif matter, a 15 minute hi def video can be close to a gig, it sucks to have a great phone with a great camera and before taking video you might have to see if you have the space!
You know an easy solution? The Iphone comes in three storage solutions, so should the one series. Cloud enough for you, buy the cheap 16gb version, partial cloud type of guy? 32gb it is, music and video nut? Here's an expensive 64gb variant for you! Can anyone argue that is a bad idea for a company trying to turn their fortunes around? If the galaxy s3 outsells the one series in North America, their handicaped storage will be one reason (pun intended) why.
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So we cant text and drive, but you can text, look at pictures and edit documents while you fly?
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You know an easy solution? The Iphone comes in three storage solutions, so should the one series. Cloud enough for you, buy the cheap 16gb version, partial cloud type of guy? 32gb it is, music and video nut? Here's an expensive 64gb variant for you! Can anyone argue that is a bad idea for a company trying to turn their fortunes around? If the galaxy s3 outsells the one series in North America, their handicaped storage will be one reason (pun intended) why.
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i fully agree with this, although it would probably end in a lawsuit.
all the flagships should have options and only be refreshed once a year, it's so silly how android makers have splintered the market just to have that extra feature that sells just that many more phones (looking at you samsung).
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Lol!!!!!!!
Getting serious though, as Pilot's we have a "sterile cockpit" rule (most airlines are the same) when descending through 10,000'. That's usually the same time I select the seatbelt sign on (unless it's earlier due turbulence), so i'm putting away my toys the same time you are. The exception would be approach plates, alot of us use tablets for those nowadays.
Got to add, I love my phone / tablet combo. My phone alone replaced my phone, calculator, E6B, mp3 player, gameboy, camera and more. My tab replaced all my manuals, and approach plates, and no more library books in my bag. Some of those things are for overnights in the hotel btw. The ability to quickly check weather and other info anywhere, chat realtime with maintenance while sending pics etc etc and even 10 years ago seems like the dark ages!
Technology and gadgets......f*ck yeah!
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Lol!!!!!!!
Getting serious though, as Pilot's we have a "sterile cockpit" rule (most airlines are the same) when descending through 10,000'. That's usually the same time I select the seatbelt sign on (unless it's earlier due turbulence), so i'm putting away my toys the same time you are. The exception would be approach plates, alot of us use tablets for those nowadays.
Got to add, I love my phone / tablet combo. My phone alone replaced my phone, calculator, E6B, mp3 player, gameboy, camera and more. My tab replaced all my manuals, and approach plates, and no more library books in my bag. Some of those things are for overnights in the hotel btw. The ability to quickly check weather and other info anywhere, chat realtime with maintenance while sending pics etc etc and even 10 years ago seems like the dark ages!
Technology and gadgets......f*ck yeah!
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This is a great way to implement the new technology. Instead of carrying around 30 LBS of products, you now have two lightweight devices that do everything for you. Same goes for my job and countless others... but it always makes me happy to hear people taking advantage of them.
Im curious. Do you still have unlimited data? What are your plans about keeping it? Whats your next phone?
I switched to the 6GB share plan, and I'm either getting an iPhone 5, or a Droid DNA.
Seriously?..... I guess we should each have our own thread when we decide to get a new phone.
Each day that passes, I look more and more forward to getting away from the redundancy and boringness of these Tbolt forums.
Well I'm loving my TB its on liquid ics 3.2 I think over fast and the next fone should be the Droid DNA or Samsung note 3
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Why in the hell would you switch from unlimited to 6GB? You do realize that higher phones will pull more data, higher quality video streams, and so on right? What used to be 4GB on the TB will turn into 8GB on the DNA or other similar phones.
Anyway I bought the DNA and gave it a trial run, found out it really wasnt for me and didnt suit my needs so I'm back on the TB. The only thing I want in a new phone is a bigger screen now. The TB fills every other category on my wish list perfectly.
At this point I'm probably going to wait until I really see something I like come out. The Droid DNA had a lot of potential, but it's major shortfalls (16GB only, no uSD slot, non-removable battery) are hard to ignore. It's tough to justify the GS3 now that it's already 6 months old, so I think I'm going to wait and see what 2013 brings to the table. While I'm fine with the large phone size (although I think phablets like the Note are too large), I do wish one of the big Android manufacturers would put out a top tier phone in a smaller form factor. There's no way my wife could comfortably use the DNA or GS3 (the Tbolt is about her hand's limit), but it seems there's no top tier phone in the low 4" sizes anymore.
I still have unlimited. Next phone? I won't know that for 6 month but it will have 64GB or an SD slot. I have 64 Gig SDXC in my tbolt now.
Why would you want 64GB? Isnt that like 30,000 songs? At least 100 movies? Half the apps in the app store? You should probably get over your memory requirements since removable batteries and stuff are a thing of the past. Phones are moving into the cloud, designed for wireless charging, ultra light weight and portability. To achieve this you need to be able to just cram everything in there any way you can, which makes it less likely for access.
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Why would you want 64GB? Isnt that like 30,000 songs? At least 100 movies? Half the apps in the app store? You should probably get over your memory requirements since removable batteries and stuff are a thing of the past. Phones are moving into the cloud, designed for wireless charging, ultra light weight and portability. To achieve this you need to be able to just cram everything in there any way you can, which makes it less likely for access.
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I was once asked why anyone would want 1MB (yes megabyte) of RAM in a computer. The "cloud" is finicky, not always available, and not to be trusted if you care anything about privacy. Memory is cheap and light. ($42 retail less than 1g for my 64GB). I'm willing to bet the trend toward no removable battery or memory is money (i.e. cost of manufacture and support) not ability of the designers to execute. The trends seems to be LARGER phones (bigger screens bigger batteries).
Buy a used phone and keep your unlimited data. eBay, swappa, etc. I've bought my wife and I each a galaxy nexus for around $220 each. You won't regret it.
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Keeping the tbolt and bought a tablet to use along side my bolt with tethering on...
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Keeping the tbolt and bought a tablet to use along side my bolt with tethering on...
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Me, too. I just got a Lenovo A1107 for $120 (as a carputer) and have a 10.1" Samsung Tablet for around the house. The Bolt can stay as a telephone and mobile hotspot.
Verizon sucks, though.
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I was once asked why anyone would want 1MB (yes megabyte) of RAM in a computer. The "cloud" is finicky, not always available, and not to be trusted if you care anything about privacy. Memory is cheap and light. ($42 retail less than 1g for my 64GB). I'm willing to bet the trend toward no removable battery or memory is money (i.e. cost of manufacture and support) not ability of the designers to execute. The trends seems to be LARGER phones (bigger screens bigger batteries).
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You knew 1MB would never suffice for a computer because you could foresee the advancements in technology requiring more space in the future. So what advancements do you see in cell-phone technology requiring 64gb, 128gb, screw it a full terabyte if storage? You might as well tell me that I'm foolish for feeling 160mph is fast enough in my car, because one day we might all be cruising at 250mph through the neighborhood. Movies arent getting any longer, songs are getting any bigger. There is no practical reason for a feature length film to be more than a couple of gigabytes since the screen size will always be less than 7".
It is precisely because phones are getting bigger that the engineering involved is getting more difficult. Special considerations have to be made when designing a battery that can be removed. It is MUCH easier for a designer if he doesnt have to worry about this. Imagine if cell-phone had removable 4G chips, video processors and ram. Do you really think the design could still be kept as portable as something like the Iphone, DNA, or SGS3? Of course not, you'd end up with a phone as big as a laptop trying to accommodate this.
RunNgun42 said:
You knew 1MB would never suffice for a computer because you could foresee the advancements in technology requiring more space in the future. So what advancements do you see in cell-phone technology requiring 64gb, 128gb, screw it a full terabyte if storage? You might as well tell me that I'm foolish for feeling 160mph is fast enough in my car, because one day we might all be cruising at 250mph through the neighborhood. Movies arent getting any longer, songs are getting any bigger. There is no practical reason for a feature length film to be more than a couple of gigabytes since the screen size will always be less than 7".
It is precisely because phones are getting bigger that the engineering involved is getting more difficult. Special considerations have to be made when designing a battery that can be removed. It is MUCH easier for a designer if he doesnt have to worry about this. Imagine if cell-phone had removable 4G chips, video processors and ram. Do you really think the design could still be kept as portable as something like the Iphone, DNA, or SGS3? Of course not, you'd end up with a phone as big as a laptop trying to accommodate this.
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Bad assumption, straw man and non sequitur
I had no special knowledge for what computer memory would be used. I only know, looking BACK at computer technology, that EVERY time someone has suggested “No one will ever need more than _____” we blew right past that without a pause. People are pretty clever in using all of a given resource. For myself I am just under 32GB used on my SD right now so 64GB I don’t have to worry about filling given my current usage model. (Which is why I stated that I could live with a 64GB fixed memory phone?) Even so 128GB devices are practically a given and 1TB is not much of a stretch. This trend will probably continue until we can fit no more into 1cm^2. What will use all of this storage? I don’t know. People are very clever in using all of a given resource however.
Does online storage and fast wireless mitigate the need for large local storage? Yes. Does it fully replace the need? No. Are data caps and overage charges making replacing local storage harder? Probably.
As for video I think your assumption of 7” is incorrect. Phones already have outputs (HDMI or the like) to drive large screens. What will those screens be in the future in size and frame rate be? HD, 2K 4K 8K? 24,30,48,60 FPS? I fully expect video files to grow.
Audio – I don’t see it changing much but perhaps bandwidth and storage will favor lossless CODECs.
Your car analogy is weak. Automobiles already operate close to the human ability to perform in many areas, portable devices… not so much. I would like to go 800 miles on a tank of gas.
I really disagree with you regarding designing for bigger vs smaller phones. A larger phone, dominated by say the display should offer more opportunity to fit things in. Of course if the wider and taller phone actually has less volume than previous phones then it would be more challenging and if it has to weigh less even with a larger volume then it may be really tough. Removable storage and batteries ARE harder to design as I said before and I fully understand that the extra cost of design and manufacture of removable storage and batteries favors the design of non-removable storage and batteries. No one mentioned changing SOC or coms or radios but that is another straw man.
Before I go on, I'm just curious, what does your 32gb of cellphone storage consist of?
The key word here is "right now."
Right now 64 GB might seem like a top end tier for mobile storage. But the DNA is 1080p resolution with more phones to likely follow suit. The files will be larger, and data consumption will increase.
Carrier networks are no longer in the unlimited era. Caps, throttling, and insanely annoying persistent wifi alerts rule the day. If carriers insist on treating network bandwidth like gold from Ft. Knox, then I'm going to want to carry more, and cloud less.
16 gigs of storage becomes 11 after OS and bloat. 11 gigs is pretty pedestrian on a device that can hold apps, movies, and songs. How long have we had iPods with more than 11 gigs in storage?
SGS 3 had it right. So does the Note 2. If I want locked down drudgery I'd buy an iPhone.
I love HTC, but they need to get somebody else making decisions over there. Carrier exclusive phones? Fail. No SD Card or removable battery? Sigh.
I'm considering a Nexus 4, but that's only because it has budget pricing, and I can use it with pre-paid service. (Read: I'm cheap)
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt.
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Before I go on, I'm just curious, what does your 32gb of cellphone storage consist of?
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25.6GB of audio
1.1G of nandroids (each about 1Gig)
2G Ti backups, app data, app cache and system stuff
I could live with 32GB if I had to for a while at least.
If you have a few Roms you like and have nandroids of, they're almost a gig a piece.
I hate how new phones are stopping at 16 gigs with no sd slot. It's not enough memory for me, nandroids and app backups are necessary and use a lot of space.
I'm the last person I ever thought would be advocating for less storage space. Believe me I'm with you when it comes to the ignorance of people who always thought ABC/XYZ was enough. I guess a better way to justify the design of something like the Droid DNA is that it at least gets the job done. I watch tons of movies, listen to tons of music, and keep my phone docked in a cradle on my desk to surf at work all day long. I just found alternatives to storage limitation that just so happen to be the direction the industry is trying to push us in. I recognized that I dont need to have 10 movies on my device at any given moment because it's not like I'll ever really be watching them. At least not often enough to justify a need for storage to keep them. I uploaded my entire song library to Google Play which was a huge boon because now I have it with me on any device anywhere I go. I dont keep more than 1 nandroid of my device because my previous build is the only thing worth keeping. When I flash a new rom I simply keep a failsafe, and I only store about 2-3 roms on my device as redundant failsafes for each other in the event things really go sour or I just get really bored.
If this is the tradeoff necessary to have a beautiful 5" display with wireless charging and weighs light as a feather, then I consider this a win. If the alternative is a larger, heavier, more expensive phone to accommodate the best of both worlds (tons of storage and tons of power) then I consider that a loss. I will gladly take form over function since the function can be made up for in other areas that actually add quite a bit of newfound convenience. To me, this whole idea of clinging to old phone standards of sd-cards and removable batteries is just oldschool thinking. It reminds me of the business tycoon still using his monochrome blackberry thinking he's the ****, and that all these kids just dont "get it" with their fancy colors and lack of technical needs. Or the supposedly tech savvy laptop pro who buys the heaviest most impossible to carry device with a 17" screen, optical disc drive, and 10 USB ports for that 1 time he actually needs it. Everything you use your storage for is just for an emergency. 25gb of music, multiple nandroids, etc. They're all just "what if" scenarios that probably see the light of day once every few months. Sacrificing the entire build of a phone for this off-chance scenario is just very backwards thinking imo.
You dont have to believe me but the dna gets excellent battery life for a phone with a 1080p and the lack of an sd card is irrelevant since it is otg capable meaning an external hard drive can be used. The sad part is that a new one x phone is right around the corner.
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I'm the last person I ever thought would be advocating for less storage space. ....
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I glad you found a usage model with which you are happy. I prefer another.