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SD Card - System Memory - Internal Memory !

Hi all,
I've got some questions regarding the phone's memory.
When I open the App Manager and I click on "Storage" it shows me that the phone has:
System Memory
Internal Memory
SD Card
Using the app "App 2 SD" my apps are transferred only from either System memory to Internal memory or vice-versa.
This App 2 SD seems not to send my apps to my EXTERNAL SD Card (where I have plenty of memory).
Could someone please explain the different between system and internal memory?
And, once and for all, how can I move/transfer ALL apps downloaded from the market to my EXTERNAL SD Card?
Can I do that manually? how?
Another app from the market? which one?
And how about the Gameloft games? is there any way to move them?
Another question is that after updating for the GB some apps seem to open themselves and they keep running on the background (i.e. Google Maps, LG Smart etc), is there anything that can be done to stop them to start?
Thanks in advance,
J

tourjefferson said:
Hi all,
I've got some questions regarding the phone's memory.
When I open the App Manager and I click on "Storage" it shows me that the phone has:
System Memory
Internal Memory
SD Card
Using the app "App 2 SD" my apps are transferred only from either System memory to Internal memory or vice-versa.
This App 2 SD seems not to send my apps to my EXTERNAL SD Card (where I have plenty of memory).
Could someone please explain the different between system and internal memory?
And, once and for all, how can I move/transfer ALL apps downloaded from the market to my EXTERNAL SD Card?
Can I do that manually? how?
Another app from the market? which one?
And how about the Gameloft games? is there any way to move them?
Another question is that after updating for the GB some apps seem to open themselves and they keep running on the background (i.e. Google Maps, LG Smart etc), is there anything that can be done to stop them to start?
Thanks in advance,
J
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system memory is the memory reserved for the OS and its applications. Internal memory is the rest of the phones memory that is used to store anything else (included apps you move with app2sd)
To move gameloft games to the external sd there is a thread so look it up a bit.
As for apps running themselves it is the way android works. It keeps running apps it "thinks" you might use so when you actually use them the load a lot faster. No worries there as when your phone needs the extra memory (running an HD game for example) it shuts down all apps that are not necessary. If you still want to prevent them from running you can use a task manager to freeze them but you need root.

jimakos29 said:
system memory is the memory reserved for the OS and its applications. Internal memory is the rest of the phones memory that is used to store anything else (included apps you move with app2sd)
To move gameloft games to the external sd there is a thread so look it up a bit.
As for apps running themselves it is the way android works. It keeps running apps it "thinks" you might use so when you actually use them the load a lot faster. No worries there as when your phone needs the extra memory (running an HD game for example) it shuts down all apps that are not necessary. If you still want to prevent them from running you can use a task manager to freeze them but you need root.
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Hi, thanks for your reply.
I have seen the thread regarding Gameloft games, but if I'm not mistaken my phone need to be rooted, which I'm not planning to do any time soon. So that thread doesn't help me to get rid of the games from my internal memory.
Also, the App 2 SD app doesn't send the apps that I have in the internal memory to the external SD. It keeps sending the apps to(or from) internal and system memory.
So, I've got an empty external SD card that I can't transfer anything there even using an app that supposed to do that.
Is there anyway that I can move the apps manually?
Regarding the apps that keep running without need, that didn't happen when I had Froyo and it seems to me that running several apps on the background can cost my battery juice, so this is not so clever.

Apps did run in background on froyo as I rooted specifically to stop some but maybe they were not doing so when you checked as they stop in certain circumstances.
As for the sd thing you are right and it sucks but for some reason lg made it so when we choose install to sd it goes to internal sd card and I have yet to find way around this though for me its not a problem as I use my actual external sd card as storage for camera app and backups instead but the internal one will fit plenty of apps on.
Dave
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I noticed too my 32gb external card is not used by app2sd apps.
Now i swapped the cards in a configfile, and after restart i have 32gb internal sd and 8gb external so it is working.
I got this from the folloing thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1189701

But won't that mean that mess up apps or cause problems, for example if you click to format or unmount external sd wont it try doing that to the internal one?
Dave

Of course, you should not take out the sd or format it after the switch. If you format internal sd, it would in fact format the external sd. Flashing to a new rom wil just use the internal sd again. Just be carefull. You can copy data to your computer as backup before you try this.
I like this sofar, my downloads, photos, films and music is placed directly on the big sd now.
Peter

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Of course, you should not take out the sd or format it after the switch. If you format internal sd, it would in fact format the external sd. Flashing to a new rom wil just use the internal sd again. Just be carefull. You can copy data to your computer as backup before you try this.
I like this sofar, my downloads, photos, films and music is placed directly on the big sd now.
Peter
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All my photos films and music are on external sd already and I still have four gigabytes of the internal sd card free so will stick with things as they are rather than hack it though is nice to know it is possible
Dave

mistermentality said:
All my photos films and music are on external sd already and I still have four gigabytes of the internal sd card free so will stick with things as they are rather than hack it though is nice to know it is possible
Dave
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Agreed, but I don't have space lol
Anyway, found out that the problem with app running themselves on the background are worst than I first thought.
All kinds of apps seem to start themselves and keep running, that caused my phone to loose a 100% battery over the night!
Is anyone having this problem?

Are you sure its the apps? I had severe battery drain and had to calibrate it then let it die and recharge while off to sort it.
I also rooted and use gemini app manager to stop apps auto running.
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mistermentality said:
Are you sure its the apps? I had severe battery drain and had to calibrate it then let it die and recharge while off to sort it.
I also rooted and use gemini app manager to stop apps auto running.
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I'm 99% sure that the problem are the apps running.
Before, with Froyo, I didn't have this problem (apps starting themselves) and the battery was just fine.
I've realised something recently though, when I was using the app "App 2 SD" I was sending some apps to my System Memory in order to free space on Internal Memory.
What I noticed was that the apps in the System memory were the ones starting up themselves, so I moved them back to internal memory and they seem not to be starting again.
I'm keeping an eye on it because it's weird, but it's been almost one full day and my battery is doing okay, or that is what least seems to appear on my screen.

Pjedr said:
I noticed too my 32gb external card is not used by app2sd apps.
Now i swapped the cards in a configfile, and after restart i have 32gb internal sd and 8gb external so it is working.
I got this from the folloing thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1189701
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hi,
Which config file is this? Is this the config file for apps2sd or the vold.stab file? (I could no longer the thread in your link)
Thanks

I think apps auto running in background is the major bug in GB, and i also have this problem so you are not alone or the only one having this problem

Low Memory!!!

I continually run out of space on my blaze's internal memory.I can't sync certain things, like evernote does not have enough space to save notes. I can't do any backups because there is not enough available memory.
I don't think I have an excessive amount of apps, and have put as many on the external sd card as possible. I don't have any games stored on the internal memory, nor any media save a few pictures.
If I look at the applications on the sd card(the internal card) It says I'm using 1.3gb. Just a quick tally and I hardly have more than 70mb in the size of the applications. Am I missing something? Previous phones I have used with less memory have not encountered this. Is there any screenshot or other info that may help?
Any assistance is gratefully appreciated.
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Bradlees said:
I continually run out of space on my blaze's internal memory.I can't sync certain things, like evernote does not have enough space to save notes. I can't do any backups because there is not enough available memory.
I don't think I have an excessive amount of apps, and have put as many on the external sd card as possible. I don't have any games stored on the internal memory, nor any media save a few pictures.
If I look at the applications on the sd card(the internal card) It says I'm using 1.3gb. Just a quick tally and I hardly have more than 70mb in the size of the applications. Am I missing something? Previous phones I have used with less memory have not encountered this. Is there any screenshot or other info that may help?
Any assistance is gratefully appreciated.
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Are you on custom ROM/kernel? If so, which ROM/kernel are you using?

some questions
are you using a custom rom? do you have CWM? If you have cwm maybe a backup is on there along with titanium backups... that would eat up a gig.
Best advise is to connect it to your pc and check where all the space is being used.
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I believe by default the pictures and video files are saved to internal storage so I would check on that too.

I am using the darkknight rom build 3. Sorry for not mentioning that. But I encountered this same issue while running stock. I know the majority of the pics are on the external sd.

I do have cwm and ti on this. THese cannot be setup to use space on the external sd can they?

I would suggest booting to recovery, format /cache and dalvik-cache partitions.
Fix perms, and reboot.
You stated you had low MEMORY so that leads me to believe your device is cluttered with temp and cached files which can be easily removed by doing what I stated above.
Keep in mind ladies and gents, memory is different from storage.
However, the issues you stated above could indicate a low STORAGE issue.
So, if you are having a storage problem, then you need to figure out what is taking up so much space on your device. That can usually be determined by going to settings>storage and looking at the output that is displayed.
For more advice, please let me know that it is a low MEMORY issue or a STORAGE issue.

Try out an app called DiskUsage, it works a lot like WinDirStat for PCs.
That way you can find what's taking up a ton of data

I'm a little confused. I thought i read somewhere the blaze had 4gb of internal memory. Why am i only showing up with 1gb system memory. But also like 2gb usb storage but what is that?
Thanks for any help.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4g

LiveFaster said:
I'm a little confused. I thought i read somewhere the blaze had 4gb of internal memory. Why am i only showing up with 1gb system memory. But also like 2gb usb storage but what is that?
Thanks for any help.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4g
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It comes with a 4gb external sdcard

LiveFaster said:
I'm a little confused. I thought i read somewhere the blaze had 4gb of internal memory. Why am i only showing up with 1gb system memory. But also like 2gb usb storage but what is that?
Thanks for any help.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4g
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It comes with 4gigs internal and 4gigs external. The internal is used for the OS and system apps. I installed GTA anniversary edition and it took up all my USB storage...then it got deleted.
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thomas.raines said:
I would suggest booting to recovery, format /cache and dalvik-cache partitions.
Fix perms, and reboot.
You stated you had low MEMORY so that leads me to believe your device is cluttered with temp and cached files which can be easily removed by doing what I stated above.
Keep in mind ladies and gents, memory is different from storage.
However, the issues you stated above could indicate a low STORAGE issue.
So, if you are having a storage problem, then you need to figure out what is taking up so much space on your device. That can usually be determined by going to settings>storage and looking at the output that is displayed.
For more advice, please let me know that it is a low MEMORY issue or a STORAGE issue.
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Sorry for not clarifying, its a storage issue. I should have been a little more exact with my posting...
Incidentally, I cleared up about half a gig by deleting the ti backup folder's contents,

You can change the location of your backups in Titanium by going to preferences-> and scroll down to 'Backup folder location'. Look next to the 'DETECT' button and that will show you the current path. It defaults to 'mnt/sdcard/TitaniumBackup'. Change it to 'mnt/sdcard/external_sd/TitaniumBackup' by pressing the back button and navigating to the right place. The removable storage (sd card) on the Blaze is the sdcard/external_sd path. That way you will still be able to have your backups.

Thanks, there was about half a gig in the ti backup folder, so this should fix my problem.
Is there a way to store apps on the external sd and still get the widgets to work? And also to free up the internal storage?
Thanks

No, sorry, widgets need to be on the internal storage to work properly.

How do i get games like gta and spectral souls to install to my external?? Those games took up all the internal memory. It type suck because theres no space to cache up music from my google music library.
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xavicivic said:
How do i get games like gta and spectral souls to install to my external?? Those games took up all the internal memory. It type suck because theres no space to cache up music from my google music library.
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Link2sd app you can force move those resource/memory hog programs
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OK so this is my problem...and need help quick BEFOOREE!!
Ok....so I've had the phone for about three months now and i'm beginning to think that this is a problem that I can't resolve on my own..meaning I might have to get a new phone...I'm running the custom ROM and have not rooted the phone.. The problem started when I tried to sedn pictures through my messages. The phone would say..Not enough memory get rid of some stuff.... so i started uninstalling apps that i really don't need. Problem didn't seem to resolve itself, so since everything is backed up to googles ( as far as contacts and apps) I did a system reset to no avail. Seems like I'm having the same problem. Now I have an 8Gb Sd card mounted in system and when I try to move apps into the Sd card it says not enough memory??? Even after system reset. So this is what it says on my storage window... System Storage 0.89GB....USB Storage ( by the way wtf is this??) 1.40 GB and then the SD card with Total space : 7.40 GB Available 7.35GB...I can't seem to move anything into the USB or Sd cards... and yes the Sd card is mounted, or so the system says.... for the sake of not throwing the phone out of the window please help!!
I'm noticing....*whilst* playing around that it seems my phone thinks this USB storage is the SD card. when i check applications and see those in the SD card it shows me those on USB storage...and nothing seems to go to Sd card. I tried downloading apps2 sd and it says same thing...not enough memory...because those few appas I have are taking the whole 2 GB's of space in this invisible usb storage??? Still need help. what the hell is this usb storage and what makes it...looking around i found on the samsung forums that (You must enable USB storage to mount the SD card) i don't remerber doing this and have looked everywhere to turn it off...btw I have the phone replacement thing from T-Mobile..would rooting the phone affect that?.Since it looks to be my only option...I though doing a system reset would fix this but seems not...

in settings-storage, the sd card shows your external sd, usb storage shows the internal space and system shows the system space. this phone has very small system space. my solution was to root the phone and remove the unneeded apps and the "bloat" that tmobil gave us so kindly. you can find guides that show you what can safely be removed, or you can install a custom rom which already has been thinned out. aside from this, clearing the app data in setting-applications can recover some of the space but depending on which app you clear you may need to login to apps like facebook the next time you use that app.
the options in there will have a 'move to sd' button if the app can be moved otherwise it will be greyed out. moving any that can be moved will help.
next will be the stock messaging app that stores its info in system, consider trying out go-sms or handcent as your messaging app and they will store most info on your external sd and help save system space...
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Guess ill try rooting it. My problem seems to be that the phone thinks the Usb storage is the sd storage...and then external sd is actual sd. Sucks...cause it seemed to be a decent phone..but your tight..the bloatware is rediculous..any. smooth custom Roms u can reccomend?
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ive been using tweaked and from what ive read, dark knight is nice also... since flashing tweaked i havent gotten the memory message at all, but i do move everything that is movable to sd...
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[Q] What EXACTLY does it mean to move an app to the SD Card

OK. So I know you can "move" apps to your SD card. Let me get straight to the point. On my Epic 4G Touch, I moved an app that was about 20MB in size and had about 1.2GB of downloaded data. I "moved" the app to the SD card and saw no space change on my Ext-SD card. My apps are installed in the phone, about 2GB. The downloaded data is saved on the USB storage, about 10GB. This is still part of the internal SD card. Meaning, I have about 12GB of actually personal usage. My apps save on a 2GB partition (Not too sure if I should call it a partition) and my other data saves on a 10GB partition aka USB Storage.
I guess I'm asking when an app is moved to the SD card, what is happening? Is it moving an app to my USB storage, or my Ext.SD card? I also ask this because I moved an app that was 1.2GB in size and saw no change in my Ext.SD card space. My USB Storage did change, but it was in MB, there was no GB difference. So now I'm wondering what exactly is happening when moving apps to the SD.
Also, is moving an app to the SD the same as installing an app on the SD or should those be referred to as 2 different things? And also, when referring to the "SD card" that apps are moving to, is the SD Card the USB Storage or the internal one, or is it the Ext.SD card?
I'm asking because I'm going to start using my phone as a console via MHL. LoL!! Sadly my Nexus 7 can't do it.:crying: So I'm going to start downloading all my big games again. I want to move most of those games to my 32GB SD card Class 10. Got it on sale for $25!! :highfive:
I'm sure it being a class 10, things wouldn't falter too much. I know apps' performance hinders when being on an Ext.SD card. My only issue is it doesn't seem like apps are actually being placed on my SD card. I have Apps2SD free from Amazon. Would that do the trick?
I want to have ALL my games. LoL!!
Batman
Spiderman
GTA 3
NOVA 2 and 3
Modern Combat 3
As you can see, that's probably 10GB already. LoL!! And I'm still not done with that list. =.P
EDIT: Oh yea, forgot to say thanks for anyone helping. Just in case I forget to hit the thanks button.

[Q] Move app and app data to SD?

So I have 16GB internal and a 64GB SD card. I noticed that when I go to apps and move an app to SD it doesn't move the apps data to SD. For example, Half-life is like 70ish MB but downloads 2GB of data. So when moved to SD it only moved the app 70MB to SD but 2GB of app data is still on internal storage. Is there any way to move the app data to SD as well?
I should point out I'm non-root android 5. I'd prefer not to root but if that's the only way I can I guess. I don't mind if it takes a paid app within reason but would prefer a free app if it takes an app. Thanks

I don't know about Lollipop - haven't updated yet - and I don't know about HL2 - I don't have it - but on KitKat, for the GTA games at least, it doesn't say it's moving the data (in the app listing the amount of data on internal storage doesn't change) but when I look at the available internal storage, it does actually move most of the data. Sure that's not happening?

Slashee the Cow said:
I don't know about Lollipop - haven't updated yet - and I don't know about HL2 - I don't have it - but on KitKat, for the GTA games at least, it doesn't say it's moving the data (in the app listing the amount of data on internal storage doesn't change) but when I look at the available internal storage, it does actually move most of the data. Sure that's not happening?
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Rooted my Tablet. Found there are apps like Link2SD which can do this. However Link2SD wouldnt work for me. Followed directions and partioned/formatted card and started app, select format of 2nd partion (ext4) and reboot. After reboot app crashes and reopening prompts again. Couldnt resolve this. Any recommendations would be great. Thanks

Eat it iPhone said:
Rooted my Tablet. Found there are apps like Link2SD which can do this. However Link2SD wouldnt work for me. Followed directions and partioned/formatted card and started app, select format of 2nd partion (ext4) and reboot. After reboot app crashes and reopening prompts again. Couldnt resolve this. Any recommendations would be great. Thanks
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Use foldermount.

As stated above, foldermount works wonders, especially for a gaming tablet.
It will also fix the SD card write limits in KK and L (L has eased up, but apps need to be updated to use the new APIs, so many still can't use the SD card).
I have saved some 6 gigs with this from my internal. Now if I could get a bigger SD card. Haha.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount
(Well worth buying pro).

Thanks everyone. Using folder mount and so far so good.
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adopable storage issue

hey guys ive just bought a nvidia shield k1 running really nicely and got a 32gb sd card as adoptable storage, but i have filled my sd card up with games and ive only used 4 gb of internal storage but i cant install any more games because it says the storage is full, is there a way i can use the internal storage as there is plenty of space there, it seems a little stupid to have all that space and not e able to use it.

Did you try to go to Settings -> Apps -> <your_game> and click on "Move to internal storage"? Some games are installed by default on SD card, because it usually has more free space.

NerdgrlApps said:
Did you try to go to Settings -> Apps -> <your_game> and click on "Move to internal storage"? Some games are installed by default on SD card, because it usually has more free space.
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yeah i tried that and it did make a little difference but if the game used 500mb on external when i moved to internal it wouid only like 35mb difference lol very weird but i think its installing the app files to inernal and data to the sd like you could before but now it works with everything