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Hey guys,
I am going crazy here, searching forums did not help me at all.
The lower section of the screen keeps flicking, and not always, what do i mean by flicking, its like the screen at the lower section keeps doing like a strange low refresh rate, and has an old imprint of some old menus. Happens especially when there is the color of gray.
Made a screenshot of the phone, no problems, there, so its not a software rendering problem, might be a drivers problem though, or a defec tin the screen itself.
Frequency is high but not always, and am unable to determine when does that happen exactly. going crazy here, is this a defect? or all touch pro's have this?
Exact explanation summary:
1CM from the bottom of the LCD sometimes flickers as if that 1CM is having an extremely low refresh rate. Mostly happens when there is light gray, but not necessarily, and a soft reset for the phone does not remove it. It happens on random!
Hey,
Yeah it happens to me too! You don't need to do a soft reset, it actually fades away if you watch it closely! I don't know what it is either, and yes it is random as you have stated! I initially thought it was an application I installed as it only started happening after that, so I did a full hard reset and its still happening! Not sure what or how, but hoping next firmware version stops it!
Cheers,
mpls-te
As it happens, that's exactly why I've logged on here today! Any ideas whta the cause might be?
OK, good to see that others have this, so am not alone here, experts here, any ideas? other touch pro users, can you please leave your statements?
I hope its a driver issue.
But from what i noticed, its like, the screen is OFF, as in blank and no back light, but somehow, the application working on the screen before you turned off the device is somehow printing something on the LCD, something that we don't see, and when we actually start the phone and its back light, that OFF LINE imprint pops on screen. Something like that.
Its completely illogical, but dunno, can't find any sense here and am going crazy
Same thing happened to me and a few others as well.
See my thread here.
What rom is everyone using?
I've noticed a similar issue with mine, except rather than something software it seems like it's the backlight for the bottom 1cm of the screen flickering slightly. I don't see any weird pixels or inappropriate screen information, just a dimming/high speed flickering of the backlight in that same regionas yours. It comes and goes. Sometimes weeks without it, then maybe 3 times in a day for a minute or two at a time. Everything else works fine and whatever screen I go to displays fine.
I'm assuming it's a hardware problem with the LED(s) that light up the bottom portion of the screen, and I'm going to use it as an excuse to get a warranty replacement somewhere near the end of the warranty when the phone's getting a little old and worn.
maxh said:
I've noticed a similar issue with mine, except rather than something software it seems like it's the backlight for the bottom 1cm of the screen flickering slightly. I don't see any weird pixels or inappropriate screen information, just a dimming/high speed flickering of the backlight in that same regionas yours. It comes and goes. Sometimes weeks without it, then maybe 3 times in a day for a minute or two at a time. Everything else works fine and whatever screen I go to displays fine.
I'm assuming it's a hardware problem with the LED(s) that light up the bottom portion of the screen, and I'm going to use it as an excuse to get a warranty replacement somewhere near the end of the warranty when the phone's getting a little old and worn.
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Lool, evil, lets just hope that this problem DOES occur when you go to their shop for your replacement
Good idea though, might do the same thing except that i have to travel abroad to where i got the phone from to actually get the warranty working. Don't forget to re-enable stock SPL and stock ROM
It happens frequently enough I'll be able to get it on video just in case they need proof, but typically they just exchange by mail.
I just posted in another thread about this issue. I have run into the same thing a few times. The bottom portion of the screen flickers, and when i do things that have a dark gray or black screen I can see a ghost image of the left and right soft keys from my TFL3D home screen. It seems to be most noticeable when the screen brightness is set to max. To get it to go away I usually do a few soft resets, and then, if needed, i will turn off the phone and take the battery out for a while. I have never tried waiting it out to see if it will just go away on its own.
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I just posted in another thread about this issue. I have run into the same thing a few times. The bottom portion of the screen flickers, and when i do things that have a dark gray or black screen I can see a ghost image of the left and right soft keys from my TFL3D home screen. It seems to be most noticeable when the screen brightness is set to max. To get it to go away I usually do a few soft resets, and then, if needed, i will turn off the phone and take the battery out for a while. I have never tried waiting it out to see if it will just go away on its own.
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I see that everyone posting in this thread,that has their signature filled in, is using the Energy ROM. I find that very interesting.
i am having the same problems, sometimes touchflo3d will flicker at the bottom, near the edges. I also get text that can be read through other screens. Like on pocketshield i can see the left and right softkey words still at the bottom. its so odd !
P.S im on energyrom
I'm on NATF v2.2, not an energy rom. But then again, mine looks more like a hardware issue, as I've never seen any ghost images of text or softkeys, just flickering.
can somebody post screens?
maybe the same problem here...
hardreset, other roms > problem still there:-(
Same problem here and I am using stock rom!
here are 3 screens of my xda diamond pro, using latest official o2 rom and newest romeOS eng
hope you can see this prob?! same like yours?
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I see that everyone posting in this thread,that has their signature filled in, is using the Energy ROM. I find that very interesting.
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Well, i doubt EnergyROM has anything to do with that problem, since my Stock ROMz had same problem, never got fixed with any updates HTC used to release. MAYBE some Cooked ROMs out there have this solved, if any, please let us know And my problem is nothing close to screenshots above :S
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here are 3 screens of my xda diamond pro, using latest official o2 rom and newest romeOS eng
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hope you can see this prob?! same like yours?
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Dude, those photos are awful, after seeing them am happy with my phone flickering, its nothing close to this.
You see, in your photos, all three of em, you some kind of shadow effect, where text of a button for example has that same text beneath it 3x6mm, that is not my case at all.
My case is as follows, IF i am on the home screen for example all looks ok, except that the bottom 1CM of the screen is flickering. If i go to another window, either a total black one or any other screen, i would still see a ghost of the old home screen, for example, and only at the bottom 1CM.
Will post photos once i get my cam back. Cheers
similar issue
my issue is kinda similar, instead of getting the bottom 1cm or so discoloration or stuck pixels, I get streaks of red or blue on my screen. I have had this happen on each version of NATF I have tried, but don't remember it happening on the stock version (which I am tempted to try again to see if that's the issue).
Could this be a driver issue?
mind is even worse than all you guys, the touch screnn dose not response, and i have the energy rom on it, before it goes wrong. it just suddenly dose not response, than i send it to HTC, they ask for 425.00 for fix.... I will just send this to Asia and get some one to fix it.
But I hope before i send it out, some one can help me here.... anyway can fix it easy!!!!
Hi all, i have the same problem, here's another topic about it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447891&page=2
sooo, yeah. my wife has the t959v. the screen cracked months ago, replaced it with one from ebay, works fine. a few weeks ago, it was involved in an accident and needed yet another screen replacement; ergo, back to ebay i go. installed the new screen yesterday, turn it on, all is well. for a bit.
now, the phone isn't currently, nor has it ever been rooted; pure stock tmo us 2.3.6. during boot, the splash screens and boot animation are gorgeous and perfect in appearance. the recovery menu is exactly as expected. android boots as you'd want it to, and then the display will do one of the following:
-work properly (rare)
-automatically turn off, capacitive buttons still lit, touchscreen unresponsive - turning it "off" darkens the cap buttons, turning it back on flashes the screen on for a half-second, then off, with cap buttons still lit (common)
-graphical corruption ("solarized" colors, completely wrong colors, pixel vomit in essence) (fairly common)
-screen tinting, blue most often, followed by pale yellow, then greenish, then red (almost constant)
-screen inversion - the display will show as rotated 180 degrees; grabbing a framecap in ddms shows it right way up. touches are also inverse; you have to touch where the onscreen element would be if it were displayed properly instead of where the element is; e.g. a button on lower-left will display in the upper right, upsidedown, but the screen registers the button when you touch the lower-left portion of the screen. (quasi common, equally infuriating and hilarious)
none of these problems will show up in a screenshot at all.
i can reliably reproduce any of the above by simply adjusting the screen brightness. this will, quite literally, cycle through every possible defective display mode randomly for a split-second before moving on to a different one as long as you move the brightness slider.
MOST of these issues are transient and are either fixed (temporarily) or replaced with a different listed issue if you lock/unlock the display. it feels like a hardware issue what with the solarizing and color horrors, but is acting like a software issue, considering that recovery and boot are perfect and have never displayed any of these issues. i tried gently flexing and stressing the case in areas that might be a weak connection point, but can't get it to bug out that way.
in no way am i suggesting that i didn't screw something royally in the reconstruction stage, but i tore down and rebuilt that phone 4 times with identical results, so i can guarantee it's not some loose ribbon connector or zif socket.
i beg of you, great minds of xda, what the balls did i muck up this time? any hope for a fix? are there different panels, drivers, something?
thanks in advance
OK, if your screenshots appear normal, then your phone appears to be working correctly!
or at least it thinks it is we can conclude that it isn't the rom, kernel, or anything that you can blame the phone for going screwy.
Try buying another screen??
The ribbon connector might be broken?
yeah, these were what i figured what my options were. it just seems odd that the boot process and recovery menus have error-free displays while only the full android os doesnt. oh well, i'll probably just have to make a stink about it on ebay or something.
thanks for reading
You might try a fresh flash before getting a new screen to see if it is indeed a hardware issue. If you want to try that follow the second link in my signature. You will not need to flash bootloaders since you are currently on KJ6.
lumin30 said:
You might try a fresh flash before getting a new screen to see if it is indeed a hardware issue. If you want to try that follow the second link in my signature. You will not need to flash bootloaders since you are currently on KJ6.
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hell, warranty's void at this point anyway, right? may as well thanks much!
welp, all went well, screen was perfect through the whole heimdall/recovery process, but the problems still exist in the os c'est la vie. at least my wife's phone is finally rooted, i suppose. thanks anyway!
Have you tried opening it back up and reconnecting?
yup, 4 times, but i guess one more wont hurt
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it definitely seems to be related (if not related, exacerbated by) changes to screen brightness. turning off autobrightness has helped minimize the issue, but it still presents itself semi-often during screen-off/on events. obviously nothing useful in logcat.
zero01101 said:
it definitely seems to be related (if not related, exacerbated by) changes to screen brightness. turning off autobrightness has helped minimize the issue, but it still presents itself semi-often during screen-off/on events. obviously nothing useful in logcat.
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That's interesting and could very well be a hardware problem with the screen. You wouldn't see that in recovery as the OS isn't loaded to mess with the brightness in that mode.
Does it do it on-demand if you mess with the brightness slider?
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Does it do it on-demand if you mess with the brightness slider?
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you better believe it does. rapid fire cycles through every color until it can't take it anymore and turns off. if i take/refresh a screenshot through ddms and poke blindly at the screen at that point, it'll still take input which is a curious, difficult game to say the least.
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you better believe it does. rapid fire cycles through every color until it can't take it anymore and turns off. if i take/refresh a screenshot through ddms and poke blindly at the screen at that point, it'll still take input which is a curious, difficult game to say the least.
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It's that Pink Floyd screen. You're supposed to drop acid & watch the wall when that's going on. LOL j/j
Given that you're on a fresh ROM & the problem persists, I'm leaning toward a hardware issue man. Sorry.
stephen_w said:
It's that Pink Floyd screen. You're supposed to drop acid & watch the wall when that's going on. LOL j/j
Given that you're on a fresh ROM & the problem persists, I'm leaning toward a hardware issue man. Sorry.
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as fun as that sounds, unfortunately i bet i'll end up just getting my wife a used phone on ebay or somewhere similar and using this one as a development monkey. i was assuming that it wasn't something i could fix but hoping otherwise... yeah, that worked out
I just started having this problem. It wasn't too bad at first, just the color changes, but then it started not showing a screen at all. Changed to three different roms, even back to the stock non-rooted KJ6 and gave up. Keeping it on a steady brightness is the only way to minimize the color changing. I thought your thread had a solution but...
I may try opening it up and fixing the ribbon. But otherwise I'll keep using it as long as I can tolerate it until an S3 or a new Nexus.
kristoper said:
I just started having this problem. It wasn't too bad at first, just the color changes, but then it started not showing a screen at all. Changed to three different roms, even back to the stock non-rooted KJ6 and gave up. Keeping it on a steady brightness is the only way to minimize the color changing. I thought your thread had a solution but...
I may try opening it up and fixing the ribbon. But otherwise I'll keep using it as long as I can tolerate it until an S3 or a new Nexus.
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nawp, nothing even close to a solution here i did end up buying my wife a whole new replacement phone and turned the broken one into my api10 development device. for what it's worth, yeah, autobrightness off does help a bit for when the phone is actively displaying content, but after you put it to sleep/screen off and try to turn it back on, it's a crapshoot. for a few horrifying hours, the screen was upsidedown even in recovery/boot animation and would NOT flip back to right-side-up until i ran the battery completely flat.
is no fun, 'tis truth. sorry for your troubles.
Hi all, about three months ago I replaced my phone's screen. Until recently I never noticed anything wrong with the OEM replacement. But earlier today I noticed that the bottom of the screen (where the nav buttons are) lights up with more strength than the rest of the screen... Is there any way to fix that or do I have to just let it be?
Also, since I don't know if the problem was there right from the moment I made the repair, I was wondering if this could be caused by software (let me explain).. I use an app called Screen Filter, that acts like a screen dimmer, but the thing is that it never dims the bottom of the screen because of some kit kat incompatibility (as like in the windows counterpart software (Dimmer) when a window is momentarily above other the dim goes off for that particular window, and the moment you finally select the window all the screen is dimmed for good). Could this Screen Filter app have caused damage on the bottom of the screen, consequence of always being not dimmed while the rest of the screen was?
Thanks in advance.
PD: Since I saw the problem I uninstalled the app as a precaution and tried to reboot and see if that made the trick, but unfortunately it didn't. Maybe the damage its already done.
Is it light bleed? Some LCD panels are plagued with it. I had a replacement N5 that just got sent back to Google that had horrible light bleed on the bottom of the screen. It could just be the panel you used and you never noticed it before. An app can't damage the screen like that, as LCD panels are not susceptible to burn in like OLED is.
I received my XT926 as a refurb and I have been experiencing a strange screen issue.
I will often have my phone on a dock, charging and sometimes I will notice the screen is black like it's off, but the touchscreen is responsive. Hitting the power button does nothing but it makes the sound as if I had locked the phone. Hitting the power button a second time will turn the screen on like normal operation.
Very rarely I have noticed the screen will turn off while I'm actually using the phone and it's a weird effect. The easiest way to describe it is that it looks like entire lines disappearing randomly over a period of 1-2 seconds, going from all visible, then to all black, kind of like slatted blinds being closed, but at random. After this, it displays the same symptoms as if I had found the screen off while in a dock/charging.
Now, I don't want to say it's related, but I first started experiencing this on the Stock KitKat update from Verizon. I am currently using Cyanogenmod 12 nightlies and I am experiencing the same issue. It seems to be happening with greater frequency.
I have also experienced the blue screen effect when certain animations/elements/apps are up on my screen, but I think they are unrelated.
Also, there is a faint discoloration bar about 2/5ths of an inch thick uniformly vertically from top to bottom of my phone on the righthand side (just under where the notification bar would be if turned horizontal).
I've tried to find more information about this but my search results have been relatively lackluster (90% of the results are trying to sell me the phone or specification pages)
So I'm breaking down and turning to here. Does anyone know what's going on here? My current theory is that my screen is going bad. I have no intention of replacing the screen on this phone (would rather just buy a new one), so any suggestions that don't involve physical hardware repairs would be appreciated.
I thought i was the only one experiencing it.
The screen turning off with a weird effect happens rarely but yeah it happens. And the blue screen effect, i noticed it only happens when im on the youtube app when the video stops working because of my connectivity issues.
Im not rooted nor is my bootloader unlocked. On the latest system version. Sounds like a software problem but hey im no expert.
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I received my XT926 as a refurb and I have been experiencing a strange screen issue.
I will often have my phone on a dock, charging and sometimes I will notice the screen is black like it's off, but the touchscreen is responsive. Hitting the power button does nothing but it makes the sound as if I had locked the phone. Hitting the power button a second time will turn the screen on like normal operation.
Very rarely I have noticed the screen will turn off while I'm actually using the phone and it's a weird effect. The easiest way to describe it is that it looks like entire lines disappearing randomly over a period of 1-2 seconds, going from all visible, then to all black, kind of like slatted blinds being closed, but at random. After this, it displays the same symptoms as if I had found the screen off while in a dock/charging.
Now, I don't want to say it's related, but I first started experiencing this on the Stock KitKat update from Verizon. I am currently using Cyanogenmod 12 nightlies and I am experiencing the same issue. It seems to be happening with greater frequency.
I have also experienced the blue screen effect when certain animations/elements/apps are up on my screen, but I think they are unrelated.
Also, there is a faint discoloration bar about 2/5ths of an inch thick uniformly vertically from top to bottom of my phone on the righthand side (just under where the notification bar would be if turned horizontal).
I've tried to find more information about this but my search results have been relatively lackluster (90% of the results are trying to sell me the phone or specification pages)
So I'm breaking down and turning to here. Does anyone know what's going on here? My current theory is that my screen is going bad. I have no intention of replacing the screen on this phone (would rather just buy a new one), so any suggestions that don't involve physical hardware repairs would be appreciated.
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i also have this with my referb i made moto give me my money back and they let me keep the phone for me it was very rare but my new phone also had a really bad screen all yellowish and bad white balance in low light if you are unhappy with it call them and say you are unhappy with the replacement here is the white glove number 800-653-7185 they are more understanding and nice but you may lose you ability to unlock your bootloader on the new phone if it comes with the latest software just a warning
I have that screen off with lines slowly disappearing thing, too And, yeah, it's also a refurbished one, bought from one of the sellers on aliexpress... I thought Lollipop was the culprit or something like that. Oh, well... It rarely happens. And luckily I only have that, not the second issue you mentioned
I am having this exact same issue. The weird lines-to-black screen thing, and the flickering blue screen when watching video. Are you saying the solution is to call Motorola and ask for a new phone?
The blue flickering can be prevented by going into Developer Options and checking "Disable HW Overlays".
The discolored stripe on the screen sounds like burn-in; these AMOLED screens are much more susceptible to burn-in than the LCD screens used in older phones. Whomever owned the phone before it was returned to Motorola probably had something running on their screen continuously with a bright-colored bar at the top, likely in a car or desk dock. The screen is very easy to replace yourself with an eBay part, if you're inclined; it involves 2 screws and 2 connectors.
I've seen the lines-to-black thing exactly twice since I got this phone refurb two months ago. Sorry, I don't know what causes it or how to avoid it, but the workaround is quick and simple enough that I'm not worried about it, yet.
Dear XDA,
My phone served me well for the last two years, but a few days ago it started acting strange. The screen is the problem. So the first time it happened i was playing a game, and suddenly the screen froze and the colors started changing, lines started appearing, and then kept inverting colors, all in a matter of 4-5 seconds, and then it went back to normal. After a few more times this happened I came to a conclusion. It had nothing to do with the GPU because if i shake, hit, or make sudden movements on the phone then it comes back to normal. After a few days i had to gently tap it against a wall to return everything to normal. During the whole messed up screen thing the touch still works. I can still unlock and make calls and everything if i remember where to tap correctly, but the screen visually messes up. Now the bigger problem is that those taps have to be stronger, at one point the touch didnt work but the screen showed regular colors and animations, and then went back to normal with occasional visual problems again. In the end i planned to use it as an mp3 because the screen is fully black. The screen is black but lit up, so when i touch it it gets dimmer, touch with one more finger gets even more dim, and when i release then it lights up again, black. I couldn't find help anywh ere else on xda or google, so i need your help. Is there anything i can do from my end? Is it some dying resistors which i can solder, or if it is the screen cable, or what is it? What can i do to get the most out of it? (flashlight, mp3, or is it absolutely useless)? Some information on what it is would be useful.
The phone is a 5'2 inch Alps Tudou91 D1 1gb ram cortex-A7 1.2ghz
PS: I will add the pictures and a video to this comment once i copy it from my friends phone
Thank you.
Hi, thank you for using XDA Assist. Some times phones just wear out. It could be the digitizer going bad, a loose flex connector, or a number of other things which can't be diagnosed here. I would suggest you take it to a local cell repair center to have it checked out.
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