This is what I did to get my S4 (tested on 3 phones) running stock ROM without any stuttering.
Phones/Network: 1 Koodo unlocked on Bell Network, 1 Telus running on Telus, 1 Bell running on Bell.
Root: All phones rooted
Network: LTE disabled, search for Wi-Fi Disabled
Removed or Frozen apps with Titanium Backup (paid version)
Chaton - Frozen
City Video - Frozen
Commande Blurb - Frozen
Courriel - I suppose this is the basic email samsung app but with a french name - Frozen (I Use K-9)
EpsonPrintService - Frozen
GPS Navigator - Frozen
HP Print Service - Frozen
Knox Store - Frozen
Polaris Office - Frozen
S Calendar - Frozen
S Memo - Frozen
S Note Provider - Frozen
S Traducteur(probably S Translate for most of you) - Frozen
S Voice - Frozen
Samsung Apps - Frozen
Samsung Apps Widget - Frozen
Samsung books - Frozen
Samsung Games - Frozen
Samsung Hub - Frozen
Samsung Knox - Frozen
Samsung Learning - Frozen
Samsun Link - Frozen
Samsung Watchon - Frozen
Samsung hubupdater - Frozen
TalkBack - Frozen
I also removed all third party apps like these:
Google apps: Removed (Books, music, movie, etc), I kept Play, Maps, Gmail and Search
All Yahoo apps - Removed
Flipboard - Removed
Facebook - Removed
Twitter - Removed
All crappy S4 features (eyes, movement/gestures, etc) are turned OFF
I run S-Health 24/24
I only kept 1 app from Bell, the one giving me informations about what I used (data plan and voice plan)
I dont know anything about making custom ROMs. Those settings give me a great Android experience with my S4. I have no explanation regarding why I froze or removed those apps.
I tried 2 of the most popular ROMs on XDA an none of them could match my stock settings (except for battery life, it was a little better than what I had with my settings using Goldeneye and a custom kernel).
Background:
Programmer (and teacher)
Network Admin (Linux and Microsoft)
Technician
My point: Those who experience lag/stuttering should look deeper into Touch Wiz. The worst experience I ever had with my S4 was with a highly popular ROM on XDA. It was suppose to be fast. Well, it wasnt for me and a few others.
Hi there
I am realtively new to Galaxy S4 and its been forever since my G1 (had Apples in between)
But forgive me for this question - where exactly do you see a lag with those apps enabled?
I have messaging frozen as I use GOSMS to avoid random "multi sms" messages and the AT&T stuff just to remove the clutter of duplicate applications that are already provided
I am not sure where to look for lag on the GS4 - I would not think freezing dormant apps would give a performance boost.
I can understand freezing a CPU heavy app giving back performance.
I can understand adjusting kernel settings (caching for example) to reclaim performance
Is it the opening/closing of folders or a particular app that stutters?
if you can point me to something, perhaps I can fix it or agree that freezing apps does resolve the issue.
atari800 said:
Hi there
I am realtively new to Galaxy S4 and its been forever since my G1 (had Apples in between)
But forgive me for this question - where exactly do you see a lag with those apps enabled?
I have messaging frozen as I use GOSMS to avoid random "multi sms" messages and the AT&T stuff just to remove the clutter of duplicate applications that are already provided
I am not sure where to look for lag on the GS4 - I would not think freezing dormant apps would give a performance boost.
I can understand freezing a CPU heavy app giving back performance.
I can understand adjusting kernel settings (caching for example) to reclaim performance
Is it the opening/closing of folders or a particular app that stutters?
if you can point me to something, perhaps I can fix it or agree that freezing apps does resolve the issue.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Frozen those stuff won't make your GS4 faster
Frozen them because they are drinking your juice.
ericzhf said:
Frozen those stuff won't make your GS4 faster
Frozen them because they are drinking your juice.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Huh?
Freezing an APP wont make the GS4 faster - that I agree with
and I think what you meant to say was:
Freezing the apps because they are using up battery (juice?) - right?
If that is what you were saying then that doesnt make sense. That assumes that the more dormant applications on your phone, the shorter the battery life.
If I take out my battery and keep it out for an hour, a day, a week...and plug it back in I have the same apps.
I have the same apps regardless of power.
Is not about having a Faster phone is about having NO LAG. Even the faster ROM in this site lags sometimes. It is fast as hell, but you do get the occasional Lag.... The only way to have a Lag free experience in the S4 is by using the Google Edition rom.
What lag?! I am on SHOStock and have no lag. People act like this phone is a top of the line computer with the latest hardware available. It is a phone. It takes time to load certain things, especially if those things are not in the cached memory or in the RAM. I am tired of seeing these posts. A 1 to 2 second delay is nothing when the app is first opened. He'll, I am willing to bet that people with this "issue" use task killers or clear their RAM every 5 minutes. This is not an old Nokia. I swear I am going to start reporting people for posting about this subject. There is absolutely no unreasonable lag with this device when used and tweaked properly, even without root. I see no one else complaing about this on any other S4 forum. Are people just looking for a way to bash on Samsung through the AT&T section?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
graydiggy said:
What lag?! I am on SHOStock and have no lag. People act like this phone is a top of the line computer with the latest hardware available. It is a phone. It takes time to load certain things, especially if those things are not in the cached memory or in the RAM. I am tired of seeing these posts. A 1 to 2 second delay is nothing when the app is first opened. He'll, I am willing to bet that people with this "issue" use task killers or clear their RAM every 5 minutes. This is not an old Nokia. I swear I am going to start reporting people for posting about this subject. There is absolutely no unreasonable lag with this device when used and tweaked properly, even without root. I see no one else complaing about this on any other S4 forum. Are people just looking for a way to bash on Samsung through the AT&T section?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I hear you my Brother i got 2 SG4 And the one, That's AT&T Stock Rom Odexed the way it came no lag at all and That's Stock one, The other is on My Deadly Venom SG4 which i still haven't released Deodex still working more stuff before i release it here and no type of lag at all so i'm with you on this one!:good:
Here's more apps to freeze if interested as posted from verizon s4 section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42351535#post42351535
graydiggy said:
What lag?! I am on SHOStock and have no lag. People act like this phone is a top of the line computer with the latest hardware available. It is a phone. It takes time to load certain things, especially if those things are not in the cached memory or in the RAM. I am tired of seeing these posts. A 1 to 2 second delay is nothing when the app is first opened. He'll, I am willing to bet that people with this "issue" use task killers or clear their RAM every 5 minutes. This is not an old Nokia. I swear I am going to start reporting people for posting about this subject. There is absolutely no unreasonable lag with this device when used and tweaked properly, even without root. I see no one else complaing about this on any other S4 forum. Are people just looking for a way to bash on Samsung through the AT&T section?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Really? You're going to report people who complain about the thing that literarily THOUSANDS of people complain about and that you still think is 'fake'? Every web site that I've read of people who were die hard iPhone users and finally switched to Android always mention that ONLY the Nexus/Google Edition phone did that for them. All others with their proprietary frameworks/skins were too laggy/slow compared to the iPhone.
So no, there is definitely 'unreasonable' lag.
There are two issues though, 1) people misuse the word lag 2) people are not all the same. Some are fine with 30fps being the minimum they need for smooth gameplay in games, some need 60fps 3) some don't know what to look for/have never experienced a 'no lag' device and thing that lag is normal
For me, I see it. Everything but an AOSP rom is too laggy for me.
There's not just lag as a problem. Also stutters are a problem as TW eats up so much ram sometimes that games sometimes need to start swapping (obviously very graphically intense games and only after 10+ minutes of gameplay)
So relax.
Doesn't disabling apps without root do the same as freezing with tb
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2
I am still looking for a lag
I just googled "samsung galaxy lag" and it seems that the billionth of a second delay from open an app and going to the home screen is the issue. And doing it a million times in a row. Really? Is that it?
My goodness I am looking for applications that stutter or dialing a telephone number and the digits are sticking or an application partially opening- a delay of a second or 2- then it finishing loading
If this is what THOUSANDS of people are complaining about they have way too much time on their hands. That is just like complaining about how fast a toilet flushes.
Wow no wonder I didnt notice it. I was looking THROUGH the issue
I am happy with what I got - its fast, I can call people, I can play a game while waiting for a beer, I can take a picture of boobs, I can text people, and I can get directions. The phone accomplishes what I want it to do
Like I said before. People act like his is a full blown, top of the line computer with stupid fast SSD's in it and a ton of RAM. The 1 second delay between me clicking the phone icon and it loading is not an issue. It is not lag. That is what happens when it is not sitting in the memory and it has to load up. The need for Instant satisfaction is what drives me crazy with you people. That delay that everyone gets from clicking the home button is from SVoice waiting for the second click. That is not lag. That is a necessity for it to run properly.
The reason I want to report people is because they are over exaggerating a non issue, and I am tired of seeing these posts that accomplish nothing and contribute nothing. I have seen many of the same exact thread cluttering the forum.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
graydiggy said:
Like I said before. People act like his is a full blown, top of the line computer with stupid fast SSD's in it and a ton of RAM. The 1 second delay between me clicking the phone icon and it loading is not an issue. It is not lag. That is what happens when it is not sitting in the memory and it has to load up. The need for Instant satisfaction is what drives me crazy with you people. That delay that everyone gets from clicking the home button is from SVoice waiting for the second click. That is not lag. That is a necessity for it to run properly.
The reason I want to report people is because they are over exaggerating a non issue, and I am tired of seeing these posts that accomplish nothing and contribute nothing. I have seen many of the same exact thread cluttering the forum.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's a non issue to you. Fine, move on. Don't even click on threads that mention the word lag.
It's a huge issue to others. You guys seem to fail to notice my comparison to iPhone and it's smoothness. iPhone is still ahead of Android in terms of UI smoothness. So yes these are phones and not super computers. But the iPhone can be smoothers with half the ram, so no, the S4 nor any other android gets a pass because it's "just a phone"
Likewise nobody is mentioning a millionth of a second delay as the issue. Atari you threw those numbers out. I see a 1 second to 2 second delays sometimes when I swipe app drawers. When I wake my phone is takes 2-3 seconds for the samsung clock widget to update.
Likewise there is stutter in games. AOSP roms don't have it, stock TW has it. I imagine it's the fact that TW uses double the RAM that an AOSP rom uses (1.2gb vs 600mb on my AOSP) which obviously is 600mb less for the app to have. That is just BLOATWARE. Horrible ineffecient bloated programming. There is no excuse for a PHONE with TWO GB of RAM in 2013 to have issues with running out of RAM.
With that logic and the amount of people on XDA and other Android modification sites, there should still be absolutely no issue. User error is the main reason for this so called lag.
Root the thing and tweak the crap out of it. Put a custom ROM on it. Hell, there is a ton of things you can do on stock without root to reduce lag.
I use a TW based custom ROM. I experience no lag that causes any problems. Although, I have taken the time to tweak and tune my system from the ground up. I even did it on the stock MDL firmware that came with my phone and have no issues with that. What some people think is lag is actually loading times. It will ALWAYS be there. I am not saying that there is no hiccups from time to time. But it is not nearly as unbearable as people have let on. What some people don't understand is that no OS is going to be perfect. I think that even Windows phone has a better UI than both Android and iOS. It is so smooth. But, there is still loading times to take into account details the slight hiccups that may happen due to the device clearing RAM for another app. No one ever takes that into account.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
graydiggy said:
With that logic and the amount of people on XDA and other Android modification sites, there should still be absolutely no issue. User error is the main reason for this so called lag.
Root the thing and tweak the crap out of it. Put a custom ROM on it. Hell, there is a ton of things you can do on stock without root to reduce lag.
I use a TW based custom ROM. I experience no lag that causes any problems. Although, I have taken the time to tweak and tune my system from the ground up. I even did it on the stock MDL firmware that came with my phone and have no issues with that. What some people think is lag is actually loading times. It will ALWAYS be there. I am not saying that there is no hiccups from time to time. But it is not nearly as unbearable as people have let on. What some people don't understand is that no OS is going to be perfect. I think that even Windows phone has a better UI than both Android and iOS. It is so smooth. But, there is still loading times to take into account details the slight hiccups that may happen due to the device clearing RAM for another app. No one ever takes that into account.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am a first time android phone user, coming from 7+ years of i phones and I can honestly say that I have not noticed a "lag" or difference in smoothness coming from i phones. I am loving the S4 and can't see myself going back to an i phone.
Just my experience, you would think from reading some of these threads that ALL of the S4's are "laggy" or slow....just wanted to give my experience with it, it may be different for others.
iOS (any version) has a custom build for each device. You cannot take the iOS 6.13 for iPhone 5 and apply it on an iPad 3. They each have their own builds that exploit each devices capabilities to the maximum. Android on the other hand has 1 core OS build that each manufacturer either tweaks or adds bloat ware or whatever .... And there in lies the problem.
Sure SOMEONE could make a custom build for a SG4 that is specifically tweaks for the quad core CPU, it's ram, disk size/speed, etc. and make it run like water but take that same image a plop it on another phone and that performance is gone.
Now I can honestly say I don't have a1 second delay or a 2-3 delay anywhere, with exception to a game that is loading and those usually have a progress bar showing that there is activity.
Trying to help here - could it be that your lag is caused by the removal of 1 too many "bloat wares"? Possibly something is required or expected and you lag is just a timeout waiting for "program x" to respond???
graydiggy said:
With that logic and the amount of people on XDA and other Android modification sites, there should still be absolutely no issue. User error is the main reason for this so called lag.
Root the thing and tweak the crap out of it. Put a custom ROM on it. Hell, there is a ton of things you can do on stock without root to reduce lag.
I use a TW based custom ROM. I experience no lag that causes any problems. Although, I have taken the time to tweak and tune my system from the ground up. I even did it on the stock MDL firmware that came with my phone and have no issues with that. What some people think is lag is actually loading times. It will ALWAYS be there. I am not saying that there is no hiccups from time to time. But it is not nearly as unbearable as people have let on. What some people don't understand is that no OS is going to be perfect. I think that even Windows phone has a better UI than both Android and iOS. It is so smooth. But, there is still loading times to take into account details the slight hiccups that may happen due to the device clearing RAM for another app. No one ever takes that into account.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's not your place. Deflate your ego. Ever heard of freedom of speech? It works like this; you seek out what you DO want and filter what you do NOT want. I
If you disagree that's cool bro. Stfu and go cry to your mom about it. Reporting threads will only make you a bigger ass, considering they're not breaking any forum or moral rules.
When the same exact topic has been posted and locked multiple times in the past, it is breaking forum rules. They were locked and deleted for a reason. Either it was an unnecessary thread or it ran way off topic. This thread is both. The topic has been discussed not only in this thread but in many others all leading to them being both unnecessary and running off the topic. With that said, it is spam. And I don't care about freedom of speech. I have just as much a right to tell someone to stfu about a long drawn out and irrelevant topic, as they do to start said topic.
I have explained how things work with the phone, I have explained how it handles its hardware and software. I have explained that the "lag" is because people are not doing things right on their device. There is nothing more to discuss here as everything has been answered. What you are doing is telling me that I need to just stop, and not even putting up a reasonable debate on what I have said. I have backed up everything that I have said. You have provided nothing. So you, sir, can kindly piss off. If you can't provide anything logical against my argument, you have no place to tell me what to do.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
graydiggy said:
When the same exact topic has been posted and locked multiple times in the past, it is breaking forum rules. They were locked and deleted for a reason. Either it was an unnecessary thread or it ran way off topic. This thread is both. The topic has been discussed not only in this thread but in many others all leading to them being both unnecessary and running off the topic. With that said, it is spam. And I don't care about freedom of speech. I have just as much a right to tell someone to stfu about a long drawn out and irrelevant topic, as they do to start said topic.
I have explained how things work with the phone, I have explained how it handles its hardware and software. I have explained that the "lag" is because people are not doing things right on their device. There is nothing more to discuss here as everything has been answered. What you are doing is telling me that I need to just stop, and not even putting up a reasonable debate on what I have said. I have backed up everything that I have said. You have provided nothing. So you, sir, can kindly piss off. If you can't provide anything logical against my argument, you have no place to tell me what to do.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If your S4 does not lag then you have some special S4 or something or you just have never used an AOSP rom before. After coming back from pure AOSP the stutters become very apparent. Opening apps isn't the problem as they open up very fast (don't know why people say that) but its the stuttering in the launcher and the apps and stuff. Like when you switch to the widgets in the touchwizz drawer. It takes time and it stutters like a mofo. I had the HTC One and that is a phone that doesn't stutter at all when going through the app drawer and home screens. It also eat up like 900mb of RAM and has terrible battery life (I'm coming from AOSP Which has crazy battery life)...
If you have ever tried a AOSP Rom like Slimbean you should know what a smooth phone looks like. Anyways the S4 is still an Amazing phone that has really crazy features that no other phone has. If you dont mind the little Stutters all over the place then good for you :laugh: but if you're like me who doesn't understand How a S600 quad-core CPU lags then I don't know what to say. Just my 2 cents, don't want to be offending in any way
Have a good day :laugh:
I have had multiple devices and used every kind of ROM out there. I prefer TW on my Samsung devices and I prefer AOSP and the likes on HTC devices. Sense is horrible to me. I do like AOSP and similar ROMs because they are smooth and quick, but are boring after awhile. The reason I prefer TW is because it integrates features perfectly and the camera is much better as well. I have no actual problems with my phone on TW because I have taken the time to tweak and fine tune my system to perform with speed and conserve battery life. I can get 3 days on a full battery with moderate usage and get fairly high benchmark scores. Some of these people that complain are too lazy to even take basic steps to prevent issues. I go to varying extremes to make my stuff function how I want it to.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Related
Not trolling, but the phone was almost unusable. I'm wondering if your purchased phones out in the wild are better.
As I would try to swipe between application or home screens, the Charge would "stick" halfway through for about a second, then complete to the next screen. Even when it didn't stick, it was changing screens at maybe 5fps - very jerky. I saw that it had a live wallpaper running (pink/orange with vines swaying back and forth), so I moved to a normal wallpaper. That helped *slightly*, but it was still very laggy.
Sometimes it would completely miss the swipe and register as a click instead, launching the app I happened to start the swipe on. The apps launched quickly - the camera app was perfectly responsive. Makes me wonder if it's demo software they're running, or maybe the bloat UI-ware installed?
Did you guys notice anything similar on real phones, or does a different rom (unbloated) make things better?
I noticed similar issues on the Revolution in the store, but the Thunderbolt was working great. I'm deciding between the three phones and some feedback would be valuable. Thanks!
-c
cryptyk said:
Not trolling, but the phone was almost unusable. I'm wondering if your purchased phones out in the wild are better.
As I would try to swipe between application or home screens, the Charge would "stick" halfway through for about a second, then complete to the next screen. Even when it didn't stick, it was changing screens at maybe 5fps - very jerky. I saw that it had a live wallpaper running (pink/orange with vines swaying back and forth), so I moved to a normal wallpaper. That helped *slightly*, but it was still very laggy.
Sometimes it would completely miss the swipe and register as a click instead, launching the app I happened to start the swipe on. The apps launched quickly - the camera app was perfectly responsive. Makes me wonder if it's demo software they're running, or maybe the bloat UI-ware installed?
Did you guys notice anything similar on real phones, or does a different rom (unbloated) make things better?
I noticed similar issues on the Revolution in the store, but the Thunderbolt was working great. I'm deciding between the three phones and some feedback would be valuable. Thanks!
-c
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So get a tbolt or revo. WTF kind of an answer did you expect on a Charge forum. Do a little reading. With minor tweaking the phone runs super fast. Move on troll.
I would go with the charge. It has the best battery life, screen, and is the lightest. Also it has an hdmi port. Once you install voodoo lagfix on it it runs as smooth as any phone at verizon. I had the tb and all it did was die and reboot on me. Also this phone doesn't have a bootloader so it's easy to root and such. The tb root process is long and the revolution has to be bootstrapped just to have a custom recovery which is annoying in the long run. Also sense roms are 180+mb while a touchwiz rom is only 110 mb. So there is my input. I say 1. Charge. 2. Thunderbolt 3. Revolution
Sent from my SCH-I510 using XDA Premium App
Unuseable HA!!
Thanks Papi - Helpful to know that voodoo lagfix works on this device. I thought it was only for Galaxy S devices. I couldn't find mention of anything different on the official voodoo website.
It's also helpful to hear real world comparison of someone who's had the TB and the Charge.
It seems weird that basically all phones coming out have something fundamentally broken with them: GPS won't fix, lag, reboots, camera quality, etc. You would think that at least one phone would come out and just *work*.
Suzook: Relax, man. I was asking if the demo software could be causing the lag. I searched both the Charge General and Charge Dev forums for the word "lag" and only came up with *one* result of a guy recommending OCLF on the market. That made me think it wasn't a common problem. Notice that I said the Revo showed the same problem - I'm not trying to diss your phone.
Geez. It's the internet. Don't take **** so seriously or you run the risk of giving people the impression that you're the drunk guy at the party who's angry and wants to fight, and nobody knows why.
DroidXcon: Holy ****! That's ridiculous! Clearly that phone is capable of much more than the VZW setup.
I never had lag on my droid charge but I am the type the of person who is a crackflasher and I love changing my phone. I never had problems with this phone ever. And ignore the others they troll everyone hahah you could make a thread called no lag here and they would troll and purposely lag there phones. Just relax and go get a charge. We love adding to a community
Sent from my SCH-I510 using XDA Premium App
Unbloated definitely helps.
cryptyk said:
Suzook: Relax, man. I was asking if the demo software could be causing the lag. I searched both the Charge General and Charge Dev forums for the word "lag" and only came up with *one* result of a guy recommending OCLF on the market. That made me think it wasn't a common problem. Notice that I said the Revo showed the same problem - I'm not trying to diss your phone.
Geez. It's the internet. Don't take **** so seriously or you run the risk of giving people the impression that you're the drunk guy at the party who's angry and wants to fight, and nobody knows why.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Its all good. Thought you were a troll. I have owned the tbolt, revo, and now Charge. IMO its the best of the 3. Its just my opinion though, everyone likes different things.
See our community is a loving troll one. I too love to occasionally rip someone apart but if it comes to buying a charge I am all for it. This phone has blown me away. Just download lagfix to increase the beauty.
Sent from my SCH-I510 using XDA Premium App
to each its own huh lol but I too come from the evo n its def faster than evo n lets not talk bout the LTE!!! whooo fire lol
Sent from my SCH-I510 using XDA Premium App
cryptyk said:
Not trolling, but the phone was almost unusable. I'm wondering if your purchased phones out in the wild are better.
As I would try to swipe between application or home screens, the Charge would "stick" halfway through for about a second, then complete to the next screen. Even when it didn't stick, it was changing screens at maybe 5fps - very jerky. I saw that it had a live wallpaper running (pink/orange with vines swaying back and forth), so I moved to a normal wallpaper. That helped *slightly*, but it was still very laggy.
Sometimes it would completely miss the swipe and register as a click instead, launching the app I happened to start the swipe on. The apps launched quickly - the camera app was perfectly responsive. Makes me wonder if it's demo software they're running, or maybe the bloat UI-ware installed?
Did you guys notice anything similar on real phones, or does a different rom (unbloated) make things better?
I noticed similar issues on the Revolution in the store, but the Thunderbolt was working great. I'm deciding between the three phones and some feedback would be valuable. Thanks!
-c
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can answer this since I have owned all three of those phones. ThunderBolt (sold it 5 weeks later) Revolution (nice phone, but was concerned about potential lack of Dev support) Charge (nice phone overall, awesome screen).
Yes the ThunderBolt is pretty darn fast and so the drain on the battery. It has a bit more RAM, but other than that the processor is identical to the one in the Revolution.
I had the Revolution for day and I had no lag at all with mine. Snappy, good feel overall, the UI wasn't an issue for me (its subjective) but it seemed as though dev support wasn't going to be there. Turns out XDA-Developers did in fact open a forum for it and its rooted, no more bing.
Charge, again snappy enough, but if there is anything causing a perceived slow down its Touchwiz and perhaps the rfs file system. Both of these are easily address, Voodoo lagfix swaps the file system from rfs to ext4 and voila you get your speed back and Touchwiz, well choose a custom ROM or a different launcher (most do anyways).
I also found the demo units in the store to be on par with each other, but who knows what has been done to the demo's you tried. If I had to choose based on overall product I would get the charge => Revolution => ThunderBolt. They all run 1ghz, and customized to do what you want but sometimes it takes a while for the devs to get everything we want.
The charge has issues with BT, battery life, reboots and lockups. I couldn't deal with it. The Charge is the ONLY one I could get to pair with my 2010 Subaru BT and that was key for me.
RaptorMD said:
If I had to choose based on overall product I would get the charge => Revolution => ThunderBolt. They all run 1ghz, and customized to do what you want but sometimes it takes a while for the devs to get everything we want.
The charge has issues with BT, battery life, reboots and lockups. I couldn't deal with it. The Charge is the ONLY one I could get to pair with my 2010 Subaru BT and that was key for me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the awesome perspective. I've decided to grab a pair of Charges from Amazon while they're $149. One for me, one for the wife.
Quick question:
Do you actually mean the charge (in bold), or a different phone? Seems like it might be a typo...
He means the Thunderbolt
Sent from my SCH-I510 using XDA Premium App
My phone might be crazy but I get around 12 hours of strait use on my thunderbolt running @1. 4Ghz
And no reboots yet lol
Edit-
32+ 10Gb storage don't hurt either
THUNDERBOLT
Absolutely no lag here with altered beast. The only downside is remnants of touchwiz.
Sent from my SCH-I510 using XDA Premium App
OP here - Just received my Charge and wanted to followup. It did the EE4 update within about 5 minutes of turning the phone on, so EE4 is my only experience vs the phone in the store. And it's snappy. It isn't buttery smooth, but for a stock kernel without voodoo, it seems perfectly acceptable. It's my wife's phone, so I'll probably just leave it stock until she complains about lag - so far, so good, though!
Thanks for all of the comments.
Altered Beast is definitely awesome and fast. Just needs some work and TO BE UPDATED TO EE4
After a week with this phone my general consensus is that it works terribly.
First, let me say the hardware is great and the industrial design, the look, is top notch and the only reason I still have the phone.
HTC has really made this phone bad and AT&T hasn't helped by not letting us put our own rom on it to fix the major issues.
Firstly, Gmail push email only works when it wants to work. This is a 2007 issue that's been solved for half a decade.
When I leave my house and I try to use data, the phone shows as still being connected to my WiFi and therefore no data will work. So I have to manually turn wifi off.
Multitasking? Yea right. At first I was puzzled as to why after switching back to an app it would restart. Was the phone running out of RAM? Doesn't it have 1GB? Turns out it's a software thing. Again, multitasking was an issue solved in 2007.
These are the only major issues with this device, and they are major because it affects me multiple times a day.
If this phone didn't have great hardware and look awesome I would have returned it the same day.
The fact that these issues can all be solved by flashing another rom gives me hope that this will someday be a useable device.
Just needed to rant.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
We didn't need that rant
Well. I feel better after I wrote it
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
I have to admit: the multitasking thing really bothers me. I can't duplicate it on my Gnex and that alone makes me wonder about this phone. It seems to go against everything Android stands for. If I wanted a phone that saves states, I'd use my iPhone.
Love the camera on this phone and the screen is amazing. I love some of Sense's customizations such as the Facebook and Twitter integration in contacts, but they seem to have kind of ruined ICS. My GSM Gnex got just as good battery life with full blown multitasking.
greyhulk said:
I have to admit: the multitasking thing really bothers me. I can't duplicate it on my Gnex and that alone makes me wonder about this phone. It seems to go against everything Android stands for. If I wanted a phone that saves states, I'd use my iPhone.
Love the camera on this phone and the screen is amazing. I love some of Sense's customizations such as the Facebook and Twitter integration in contacts, but they seem to have kind of ruined ICS. My GSM Gnex got just as good battery life with full blown multitasking.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you know if we would use cm7 or any other custom rom that we would be able to multitask properly? That is bothering me as well. It keeps reloading everything. If the hardware wasnt so nice, it would have gone back already.
I would imagine so. I think Sense is prematurely killing apps to save memory.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
seriously??
its obviously whatever they set as the default mem manager and how aggresive they set it, probably to do with the scheduler too
i can replicate that behaviour on my cappy by adjusting mem manager to aggresive....so..i wouldnt fault the phone. theyll either adjust it in an update due to feedback, or we can just control it ourselves once we are all on a custom rom.
you shoulda known this if youve ever run any sort of custom rom....one would think. but now you do....so fret no you must young padiwan, good things coming they are, wait you must.
ptesmoke said:
seriously??
its obviously whatever they set as the default mem manager and how aggresive they set it, probably to do with the scheduler too
i can replicate that behaviour on my cappy by adjusting mem manager to aggresive....so..i wouldnt fault the phone. theyll either adjust it in an update due to feedback, or we can just control it ourselves once we are all on a custom rom.
you shoulda known this if youve ever run any sort of custom rom....one would think. but now you do....so fret no you must young padiwan, good things coming they are, wait you must.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have no doubt that something like Cyanogenmod would resolve this, but I don't want to install a custom rom and shouldn't have to. The phone should work correctly without hacking it.
From the few responses I have seen from HTC reps that users have contacted, they don't seem to think this is a problem. They claim this is "how multitasking is intended to function". That tells me a fix will not be forthcoming.
Bigjim1488 said:
We didn't need that rant
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
we really didnt. Seeing that there is a shortage of the same rants on the forum right now.
greyhulk said:
I have no doubt that something like Cyanogenmod would resolve this, but I don't want to install a custom rom and shouldn't have to. The phone should work correctly without hacking it.
From the few responses I have seen from HTC reps that users have contacted, they don't seem to think this is a problem. They claim this is "how multitasking is intended to function". That tells me a fix will not be forthcoming.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not trying to troll, but how do so many people that want to run stock end up on xda lol? I love the hacking & experimenting aspect of Android. That being said, I don't really see any problems with the multi-tasking outside of the browser reloading so much (I've been using Firefox more anyway & it works fine). My galaxy nexus wasn't that much better either. Could htc have done a better job? Sure, probably. But the phone is pretty impressive, multi-tasking issues aside.
sdotkdot said:
I'm not trying to troll, but how do so many people that want to run stock end up on xda lol? I love the hacking & experimenting aspect of Android. That being said, I don't really see any problems with the multi-tasking outside of the browser reloading so much (I've been using Firefox more anyway & it works fine). My galaxy nexus wasn't that much better either. Could htc have done a better job? Sure, probably. But the phone is pretty impressive, multi-tasking issues aside.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You may have noticed (or not, depending on how observant you are) that not every post on here is about hacking, modding, and rooting. Some people actually come here to talk about the phones, report bugs, compare notes, ask questions, etc.
Multitasking is much worse than a browser refresh. Start up Pandora or Slacker and let them run in the background. They will die. Start a game and then open a few other apps and come back to the game and it will completely reload and lose all progress. This is not how Android multitasking is supposed to work.
And I'm sorry, but waiting for a custom rom to make this phone work correctly is like buying a Macbook Air, getting nonstop kernel panics and hoping that someone will release a version of Linux that you can install on it to make it run correctly.
greyhulk said:
You may have noticed (or not, depending on how observant you are) that not every post on here is about hacking, modding, and rooting. Some people actually come here to talk about the phones, report bugs, compare notes, ask questions, etc.
Multitasking is much worse than a browser refresh. Start up Pandora or Slacker and let them run in the background. They will die. Start a game and then open a few other apps and come back to the game and it will completely reload and lose all progress. This is not how Android multitasking is supposed to work.
And I'm sorry, but waiting for a custom rom to make this phone work correctly is like buying a Macbook Air, getting nonstop kernel panics and hoping that someone will release a version of Linux that you can install on it to make it run correctly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I do understand that there are plenty of non-development threads given that this is in "general". Nobody is making you keep the phone and wait for a fix either. But you are right, it is a vital function of the phone and you would expect it to perform as it's supposed to. Every phone I've owned has had some kind of flaw or quirk and the developers here do an awesome job fixing them as well as making the phone better in almost every aspect fairly quickly.
*Edit - So after thinking about it, I realized that I haven't really used the multi-tasking feature all that much and decided to put it through some tests. Apparently it does suck lol so I apologize ...using home to exit current app then going back to a previously used app via the launcher does work a little better, but there is definitely some work to be done
Rants are good. Gets the word out on issues that hopefully get resolved.
At least be accurate with your rant. From a little googling the Tmobile G1 was release in 2008 and Gmail push was released in 2009, not 2007.
I have never really understand why htc...spend money make their own sense android... and they know people will try anything to get aosp back...
also those people who has galaxy nexus and tries to port sense...UI....god...they must have time....
I went to a store to try this device tonight. The hardware and screen are simply awesome. Sense even looks nice and the UI was lightning quick. It is really disappointing that basic things like WiFi-3G handoff and multitasking are not working right...things I've taken for granted for awhile on CyanogenMod. I agree with others, I was hoping to not have to mess with custom ROMs at all, by now it should just work great out of the box. Now I have to monitor the software situation here and compare to the SGSIII when it's released.
niceppl said:
I have never really understand why htc...spend money make their own sense android... and they know people will try anything to get aosp back...
also those people who has galaxy nexus and tries to port sense...UI....god...they must have time....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
the grass is always greener...
---------- Post added at 10:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:13 PM ----------
Firstly, Gmail push email only works when it wants to work. This is a 2007 issue that's been solved for half a decade.
-> gmail works fine for me. i get notifications as soon as i get an email sent.
When I leave my house and I try to use data, the phone shows as still being connected to my WiFi and therefore no data will work. So I have to manually turn wifi off.
->have you tried using the newer version of stock, it has wifi fixes, ive had this issue one time, but not again.
Multitasking? Yea right. At first I was puzzled as to why after switching back to an app it would restart. Was the phone running out of RAM? Doesn't it have 1GB? Turns out it's a software thing. Again, multitasking was an issue solved in 2007.
-> never had any multitasking problem but people complain about it a lot.
on the other side....hehe
Multitasking is the only system/device problem that everyone has. I have zero wifi issues and zero push issues. Not everyone got stuck with a buggy One X. Just sayin.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
Hey guys,
I've used a lot of Sense 4 ROMs on my Sensation, and back in February or March I remember saying to someone "you know, it seems like even though Sense 4 uses less RAM, all my recent apps have to reload like I'm on my old iPhone".
At that, the whole thread yelled at me and called me stupid, but we now know Sense 4's memory limits were drastically altered by HTC for better battery life and Sense performance.
So my question is, as somebody considering the One S, have you guys had similar problems with not being able to keep many recent apps in memory? And if you've found a way to solve this... does Sense 4 slow right down?
Just curious as I might buy one (hopefully the S4 version even though I'm in Asia, fak you HTC) in the next few weeks but couldn't live with the constant redraws and inability to go from messaging to browser and back without the browser refreshing
Cheers!
Sense 4 is great, However, Its a massive RAM hog and has this tendency to reload itself whenever it gets the chance.
Multitasking is pretty impossible. Not sure what HTC did here but its down right ridiculous !! we have one of the best processors on the market, Combined with a massive amount of RAM (for a phone) and we cannot multi-task.
This is a major error and im hoping now the kernel source code is out, that some kernel tweaks will help defeat this issue.
Doesn't bother me. Behaves pretty much the same as my Sensation did on any ROM (Sense 3.6/4 or de-Sensed).
Definitely same problem on t-mobile (with just the stock ROM). Multitasking is basically non-existant, despite having, in general, 200 MB of ram free.
edit: not trying to imply being on t-mobile has anything to do with it, just specifying its the US version
I am definitely having major multi-tasking problems. It is terrible, much worse than Sensation, possibly worse than G1. I am probably gonna return mine and get the T-Mobile GSIII.
I just got the update, and it seems like it might be *slightly* better. Then again, it could be my imagination.
Is it any better with custom roms or is it all kernel source related?
The multitasking experience on the stock un-rooted rom was utterly innexistant on my part. Ie: Google reader > Read big article in Firefox (B) Browser > Return to Reader but it has to reload because it was closed. The built-in task manager rarely reported more than 150mb on my device and it acted like it refused to use the last 100mb. With a custom ROM and tweaks (mainly if you disable the Sense launcher/widgets), I rarely see app reload in short time use. Don't expect to see open your app you closed the day before tho.
You could wait to use CM9 and have twice more free RAM but notice that you will loose the device's special features like ImageSense, Beats (and SRS/Dolby), native DLNA, native Dropbox and other online services, etc...
NienorGT said:
The multitasking experience on the stock un-rooted rom was utterly innexistant on my part. Ie: Google reader > Read big article in Firefox (B) Browser > Return to Reader but it has to reload because it was closed. The built-in task manager rarely reported more than 150mb on my device and it acted like it refused to use the last 100mb. With a custom ROM and tweaks (mainly if you disable the Sense launcher/widgets), I rarely see app reload in short time use. Don't expect to see open your app you closed the day before tho.
You could wait to use CM9 and have twice more free RAM but notice that you will loose the device's special features like ImageSense, Beats (and SRS/Dolby), native DLNA, native Dropbox and other online services, etc...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you happy, overall, with the device?
Coming from an LG G2x.
I got rid of my prime for an Infinity and when i first got the infinity, it was flying. Fast, stable, wonderful...especially compared to the prime. After about 1.5 wks of daily use, ive been getting random lock ups and slow downs and have had to reboot or cold boot several times now. I have been very careful to not load too many apps or games and if i think an app or game is causing the problem then i immediately delete it.
I recall this happening to the Prime and am wondering if this is how its going to be with these ASUS tablets? They are so great at first then slow down and become laggy causing the user experience to sufffer greatly. Does anyone think JB is going to fix this problem?
Jelly Bean will make this tablet like BUDDDDER
I would wipe/factory reset
Start of fresh, JB is around the corner.
I keep reading posts about how poor the performance is with the TF700 and I keep wondering if I'm using the same tablet?!?!
Not sure if it's the Zeus ROM or what, but I don't have any performance issues to speak of!
For those having performance issues - maybe try the Zeus ROM and see if that helps (at least until JB comes out)...
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2
David522d said:
Jelly Bean will make this tablet like BUDDDDER
I would wipe/factory reset
Start of fresh, JB is around the corner.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
We can only hope for the best!
I'm whipping up a list of generic complaints for when the Jellybeans are spilled.
I'm just like everyone else...scouring that play store for the one!
Been unloading a lot of stuff that I thought was groovy.
To me the tab seems the same or a bit better than it's first day in my clutches.
Finally settled on the ICS+ browser...the rest of them have features yet to me cause some frowning.
Heck I dunno...
mines started off smooth as well, then came a lot of freezes and force closings. I did a factory reset about a week ago, and its seems back to the way it originally was. Everything is fine now. I do hope JB comes soon though.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Xparent Red Tapatalk 2
Well, I was going to say it seems to come and go with mine but I've gotten about 10 browser not responding messages trying to reply. It started off really good when I first go it but it has gotten progressively worse since then. One thing I notice is it seems to be the ads in web pages that kill the browser. I guess that flash is causing the problem? The android browsing experience leaves a lot to be desired.
I call it the Windows XP syndrome.
XP was zippity fast on a clean install, but add a few years into it of loading it with all kinds of applications, AV changes, system restores, repairs, etc.
and you get a XP that takes a good 2-3 minutes post startup to run, and it will slow down over heavy usage.
I also experience this with Firefox in Windows 7, that browser was a beast with all those add-ons and the only browser with a true Ad-blockers, but as Firefox approach version 13, it's become a slug and can't handle many tabs.
I have not noticed a slow down....yet. But I have disabled a lot of crap that seems to start on its own.
This device is now three weeks old or so and there is yet to find a glitch.
A little tweaking goes a long way.
Dee Envy said:
I have not noticed a slow down....yet. But I have disabled a lot of crap that seems to start on its own.
This device is now three weeks old or so and there is yet to find a glitch.
A little tweaking goes a long way.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Zeus Rom also removes a lot of bloatware, as you said, don't underestimate how bogged down your system can become with all that stuff running in the background.
Hmmmm....
As one of the un-knowledgeable as far as development:
Would Android being Linux (I guess) be more subject to bugs and failures because it's RAM friendly and lighthearted.
In other words since Android seems less complex would its speed versus hardware cause cross links or file IO failures more readily?
I know Windows has driven me nutz for years...always wanted to try Linux yet never have.
What exactly will JellyBean do?
No problems here. Since last update mine is rock solid stable, and performance is quite good. Had chance to use heavily at a 3 day conference and it was great though battery is not as good as my tf101. Also had my first chance to spend some solid time with an ipad2(not new one) . Utterly worthless. It was soo limited and locked down. Performance was fine but not as good as my infinity. 4x3 sucks.
I'm wondering if those with issues have one or more bad apps installed, I know it's happened to me before. They run crap in background and are not optimized.
Lots of problems here as well. I had actually typed in great detail, all the issues I have come across and the damn browser force closed so I lost everything I typed. My tablets acting up really bad, so I'm gonna end it here. This tf700 is the prime with fixed wifi and a nicer screen... please let JB fix this or its going back to Amazon.... infinity tablet #2.... there won't be a #3 if JB isn't stellar!
So disappointed with Asus...
Thats OK said:
Hmmmm....
As one of the un-knowledgeable as far as development:
Would Android being Linux (I guess) be more subject to bugs and failures because it's RAM friendly and lighthearted.
In other words since Android seems less complex would its speed versus hardware cause cross links or file IO failures more readily?
I know Windows has driven me nutz for years...always wanted to try Linux yet never have.
What exactly will JellyBean do?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Linux kernel isn't the problem. I would even say that Linux is more stable than Windows.
Jelly Bean has the target to make Android as smooth as iOS devices.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda premium
JB will make only the transitions smoother, other than that, i don't think we are going to see any performance boost or at least decrease in lags and hickups. This is due to HW to some extent (imho) and yes, the crappy apps.
I can tell you right away that after removing the live wallpaper that i used as workaround for cropped wallpapers in portrait mode, my tablet is now much faster on home screens that it was before. I also went and disabled some of the Asus apps. I know there are probably some other apps that are running in the BG and should be removed, too, but i simply need them, so no options here.
It also seems that factory reset is helping for some people, so maybe i'll give it a try, too, right before the JB update.
I am still on system that came from the factory.
Of course I don't think the tablet is crap, cause it is not, it is great, but it really needs some gentle hands sometimes to get it up to speed.
There is one thing that makes me VERY angry sometimes, so angry that maybe someday the tablet will fly into the wall....
I have enabled the screenshot function of the back button. Well, sometimes, when i want to just go back, "fracking back!", it creates a screenshot, which makes a tablet even more unresponsive. Frack!
I was also having a lot of trouble at first with my Infinity. Then I did a couple of things. One, i got rid of the dual battery widget that I used all the time on my Prime; two, I deleted or disabled every unnecessary app I could find. There are a number of good forum threads that can tell you what to disable. I also settled on Apex Pro Launcher which now seems very stable after deleting dual batter widget.
Mine slowed down after a couple weeks which was very frustrating because I really liked it when I traded my Prime for it. I have moved away from Asus altogether now good luck with jellybean hope it works out for you guys
Sent from my SPH-L710 using xda premium
ilostmypistons said:
Mine slowed down after a couple weeks which was very frustrating because I really liked it when I traded my Prime for it. I have moved away from Asus altogether now good luck with jellybean hope it works out for you guys
Sent from my SPH-L710 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Buh bye!
I guess i made a big ****ing mistake again, First i got the infinity then i returned it to get the note 10.1 . I was raving and writing positive reviews on that tablet as it is truly a fast tablet, no force close , stereo speaker is loud with good definition then last night i picked up my ipad3 and started browsing , after an hour i went back to my note 10.1 thats when the problem starts as i can now see the how bad 1280x800 resolution is compared to my ipad3 or infinity. So i went back and returned the note for the infinity and now...... after......... couple ....of ....days.........it was ****ing laggy and keeps on force closing browsing is started to became painfully slow , typing is not fun as i keeps on skipping letters as the touch screen is not that responsive. I want to go back to the note but i guess i dont have the guts anymore to returned it again...... Now i'm stuck.
I think the reason why the note is faster is because of its low resolution and why the infinity is slow is because the tegra 3 is not capable enough to handle full hd.........
mywingtophone said:
I think the reason why the note is faster is because of its low resolution and why the infinity is slow is because the tegra 3 is not capable enough to handle full hd.........
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thats not the only reason, Prime was lower resolution and that device was slow too.
Loading your tablet up with craplets will slow it down.
It's pretty obvious that if it is performing like you want initially after a fresh factory reset, but then after loading it up with stuff it slows down, then it is most likely the stuff you added, not the box itself. It's just like a windows box basically, as someone else noted. Windows machines are a wreck after a while with all the little DLLs, services, drivers, etc that muck up an installation over time. I really have gotten to where I settle on just one or two go to apps in each category rather than install and leave multiple redundant apps on the machine.
I also avoid "freemium" games like the plague. Those things are like user installed malware. They leave stuff running on your machine all the time, pop notifiers, etc.
An occasional reboot or cold boot might be a healthy thing to do, too, since depending on your system config, Android may not be aggressive about reclaiming memory, etc, and you don't want it to hit eMMC as hard since it is slow on the TFs.
I haven't touched a Samsung device since the galaxy s1 i9000 and have stuck to nexus phones since that time.
I thought I would give Samsung another blast this year and see if they have redeemed their selves over the years in regards to the amount of animation stutter and input lag since they claimed to have streamlined TW and have started using their own processors to make everything work in harmony etc.
The phone itself is really really great and I quite like it but I again am still getting animation stutter all over the place.
Scrolling in play store is horrible. The simple tasks of pressing between the tabs in the dialer is the worst out of them all them and really has terrible animation and most apps stutter like mad where my old nexus 5 was nice and smooth which I can only blame TW for. Even the keyboard goes nuts if you try to look through the emojis. There's no excuse for this in this day and age with what this phone is packing.
Is it just my device or is anyone else getting a lot of stutter etc on their device?
Is their anything that can be done to solve the issue other than swap the phone
Ta
Sent from my SM-G920F using XDA Free mobile app
zolah said:
The phone itself is really really great and I quite like it but I again am still getting animation stutter all over the place.
Scrolling in play store is horrible. The simple tasks of pressing between the tabs in the dialer is the worst out of them all them and really has terrible animation and most apps stutter like mad where my old nexus 5 was nice and smooth which I can only blame TW for. Even the keyboard goes nuts if you try to look through the emojis. There's no excuse for this in this day and age with what this phone is packing.
Is it just my device or is anyone else getting a lot of stutter etc on their device?
Is their anything that can be done to solve the issue other than swap the phone
Ta
Sent from my SM-G920F using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
5.1 kinda made this issue a lot worse! I set animation in dev option to 0.5x and it helps a little!
You can try a custom ROM. You often get a much better performance with it. Or try to root and uninstall bloatware. Hope this helps.
BenjyTec said:
You can try a custom ROM. You often get a much better performance with it. Or try to root and uninstall bloatware. Hope this helps.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Any links to guides on this. I used Odin back in the day a lot to flash custom ROMs but that's going back a long time.
Cheers
Sent from my Nexus 9 using XDA Free mobile app
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/general/howto-flash-g92xf-t-tripping-knox-t3158606/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...xtrestolite-deodexed-mod-edition-1-0-t3094423
1. Use the first link if you want to keep your warranty safe.
2 A nice, clean, fast ROM you can use (it's the one i'm currently using) also, I would like to give back-to-n0t3 a shot soon.
Note 5 user here. Same issues on this device It's really disappointing Scrolling lag is so much higher than on my OPO.
I have no lag at all on mine running 5.1.1 - I'm usually pretty sensitive to it!
dgcyears said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/general/howto-flash-g92xf-t-tripping-knox-t3158606/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...xtrestolite-deodexed-mod-edition-1-0-t3094423
1. Use the first link if you want to keep your warranty safe.
2 A nice, clean, fast ROM you can use (it's the one i'm currently using) also, I would like to give back-to-n0t3 a shot soon.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Please don't withhold all information. First link's method only works on S6 variants G92XF/T. It does not work on other variants and if attempted will cause a soft brick. For other variants of S6 on 5.1.1 there is no way to root or install custom kernels without tripping Knox.
On the subject of lag, proper usage of the phone and knowing how to free up RAM can reduce lag on your phone. Examples include clearing recent activities, using Smart Manager to "clean up" background activities and rebooting the phone every few days. With root you can use more efficient methods like Titanium Backup to freeze apps and Greenify to kill background processes. Don't just sit there complaining about lag this and lag that, go and read up on how to free up RAM on your phone and reduce lag on it.