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My phone shuts down all by it's self once or twice a day. It occurs on multiple roms. I really want to find out why. Can someone tell me how I can log wat happens?
Since I don't know when and why it shuts down I would likely need a logger wich writes to a log file so I can look back what the problem is.
I suspect it to be a hardware problem... (Don't hope so but it happens on multiple roms)
Thanks everybody
What kernels have been used with the roms?
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App
The used kernels were default kernels of the roms I used. Problem started wen using CM7 alpha. and now using Android Revolution with Faux123
Frazzy said:
My phone shuts down all by it's self once or twice a day. It occurs on multiple roms. I really want to find out why. Can someone tell me how I can log wat happens?
Since I don't know when and why it shuts down I would likely need a logger wich writes to a log file so I can look back what the problem is.
I suspect it to be a hardware problem... (Don't hope so but it happens on multiple roms)
Thanks everybody
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Same for me, but ONLY with Revo HD ROM...
SadMac said:
Same for me, but ONLY with Revo HD ROM...
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You don't have it in any other ROM?
I had the same problem before, I changed my kernel to bricked 0.91 and the problems are gone now.
I'm downloading Insertcoin rom now. I'll report back if the problem still occurs.
Frazzy said:
My phone shuts down all by it's self once or twice a day. It occurs on multiple roms. I really want to find out why. Can someone tell me how I can log wat happens?
Since I don't know when and why it shuts down I would likely need a logger wich writes to a log file so I can look back what the problem is.
I suspect it to be a hardware problem... (Don't hope so but it happens on multiple roms)
Thanks everybody
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Change kernels. Go from 1.5ghz to 1.2 via daemon controller or another CPU adjuster.
The bricked 0.91 also fixes most issues too as stated above
Sent from my HTC Sensation in UR-Quan subspace.
Before you suspect Hardware.. Check first your software.. I'f i were you, i'll back up all my roms.. full / super wipe, then check it on by one.. lets say IC for first 2 days then ARHD on the 3nd-4th day.. If it does not shut down, it only means one thing, its not HARDWARE, it can be software.. Check also your chosen Kernel on your flashed ROM.. there might be an incompatibility running multiple different roms and kernels..
hope i'd help.. click thanks if i enlighten you so far..
Okay, I'm back from a weekend away.
What I did before I went away (Friday afternoon) is:
- Reboot to Recovery
- Wipe cache, wipe dalvik, wipe data
- install zip: Super-wipe (just to be sure)
- Install zip: InsertCoin 3.3.0
- install zip: InsertCoin 3.3.1
It all went well until Saturday evening. It was off when I got it out of my pocket. i tried to turn it on and it booted up. If it is on there is no problem at all. It stays on all the time...... Until I unlock my sim with my personal code. 2 seconds atfter that the phone turns off...
Since the problem reoccurred I tried the following things:
- Wipe cache, reboot (problem still exists)
- Wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache, reboot (problem still exists)
- Wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache, wipe data, reboot (problem still exists)
- Wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache, wipe data, Super-Wipe, re-install rom, reboot (problem still exists)
Is there a way to test the hardware to rule it out? The problem occurred in three different roms and got worse. I really can't see how this could be a software problem.
I'm now going to download the latest stock rom and see what happens...
I had the same problem I'm on tmobile sensation 4g in the us and I think all us sensations have the problem... When I was using any rom that was based on the experimental sense 3.5 base my phone would turn off/crash I tried all different Roms but the problem still occured, I though about it and installed revolution hd with sense 3.0 and still on the old base and the problem is gone. I'm waiting for the official release of the new sense 3.5. Hope it helps
I had the problem on 3.5 and non 3.5 based roms. CM7, Android revolution XE, android revolution sense 3.5 and Insert Coin XE sense 3.5. The last one I mentioned was the worst and I even couldn't get past the security code.
I now installed a shipped Rom. Let's see what happens.
In my first post I asked if there was a log file in which I can see why it shuts down. can anyone shed a light on that?
Frazzy said:
I had the problem on 3.5 and non 3.5 based roms. CM7, Android revolution XE, android revolution sense 3.5 and Insert Coin XE sense 3.5. The last one I mentioned was the worst and I even couldn't get past the security code.
I now installed a shipped Rom. Let's see what happens.
In my first post I asked if there was a log file in which I can see why it shuts down. can anyone shed a light on that?
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I am having the same problems. I tried all of the same roms you have tried and as of last week I have decided to unroot my phone and return it to stock rom and recovery. after a week I am still getting the same random reboots. the only non stock part of my phone is that it is still S-Off, but I think im going to have to learn how to put stock S-On and go yell at the T-mobile guys to see if I can get a new phone.
If you can come up with anything better I would be willing to try it. the reboots are killing me.
This issue sucks. I'm glad I'm not the only one that has it though lol. I've also gone back to stock rom, no root/S-ON etc. Just to rule out the possibility that it's something funky going on with custom roms, kernels etc. So far I do still have random shutdowns, possibly a little less than I did before, but still there nonetheless. To get S-ON again, flash the RUU appropriate for your phone, then get into fastboot and type
fastboot oem writesecureflag 3
and then
fastboot reboot-bootloader
More on all this is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1201773
As far as logs to track down what is going on, I think it might be in lastkmsg. Unfortunately I don't know exactly where to find that or what to look for exactly.
And as stated twice before me, the problem still exists. I'm going to undo all changes to the Sensation and see what happens. If the problem is still there the phone will go back for warranty.
And again my old trustworthy HD2 saves the day as a backup...
I've never experience having a reboot with a super wipe then flashing a custom rom.. i do it almost everyday.. maybe its already a hardware since software installation (roms, and kernels) are clean when you do the flashing.. Has your phone experience some accidents? like fell on the ground?
Not that I know of.
I'm not new to flashing and I'm a real flashoholic. Nothing ever went wrong with flashing. Where other people would have problems with a certain ROM I could always enjoy the Rom without trouble.
I installed the eu version of the shipped roms. the problem seems to be different again. Nof it shuts down far less then before but I have to pull the battery to get it to boot up again.
I hope I have enough time today to S-on the phone. Does anybody know if the box states which version number it was shiped with? I know it's EU but there are different version numbers. (or is that not impotant)
Thanks for your help everybody.
I think the problem is the battery. I bought a new battery, the evo3d batery and so far I have not had this issue again.
Problem is solved. I got a free board swap and now everything is working again. So it was a hardware defect.
Thanks for the help all.
Just installed new rom on phone.
Keeps rebooting every couple of minutes. Now I am not sure if it happened before I installed rom or not as I just went straight ahead and installed it as I have just received a replacement handset from a broken screen.
Any help?
Sense rom? Aosp rom? Rom name? Root? No root? More info man...
*Swaypovano sa Desire S BRE*
Saga3D v3.0 (Desire S official Sense 3.0) - [2.3.5] OTA 2.10.401.5
That rom. Installed the new hboot and orig stock kernal
Assume you have rebooted into recovery and wiped data, cache and dalvik cache, then tried to reboot?
Yes, I have done that a couple of times. I left it on connected with cable overnight and it doesnt seem to have rebooted. Seems to point to a battery problem??
It does boot properly. But after a minute it just restarts.
Edit. A bit more testing and it doesnt reboot when using a game or app. As soon as it closes to main screen it seems to just reboot as the screen goes into standby.
Edit 2. I have changed setting to stop screen turning off and its not done a reboot for the whole 10 minutes.
Does anyone think its a warranty claim? Or any more things to try?
Warranty claim seems a bit drastic, I'd try installing the rom again, or try a different rom, Endymion is sense 3.5 and stable... I was toying with it today, or pre rooted stock or even cm7 which at least you know is also rock solid
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
Just tried cm7 and it does the exact same.
Edit.... tried 4 different roms now. Going to go to stock with s-on and test. Then back to the shop again
Edit 2. Just use RUU on it and it is the same. Looks like I need to return it yet again.
Any more tips before I take it back in?
I had the same problem after 2.3.5 update. Went back to old version and it's fine now.
Assuming that you are not OC or UV then continue, else adjust to stock settings and re-try.
I recall a couple of others having a similar problem that was caused by either
a) loose battery connection, resolved by placing a piece of folded paper on top of battery to ensure it sat solidly in the slot.
b) dodgy battery, suggest that you contact HTC support, explain that phone keeps rebooting you suspect battery and request that they post you a new battery - don't post old battery back until you are sure its the battery at fault.
Hi sensation forum...
I am new to sensation, but not new to android or HTC, as i have 4 different phones with custom firmware on them...
But the sensation give me a lot of problems for some reason...
I have tried ARHD 5.0.2 and Insert Coin 4.0.4, i have also tried Virtuous Inquisition v1.3.0 and HyperSensation CM7.1 v1.2.
The last one is not even ICS based...
All of them give me random reboot cycles...
I have tried 3 different radios also...
Nothing have helped me so far...
I still have a lot of random reboots...
(about every 2-10 min)
When i flash the firmware i use ARHD´s super delete script, but to be shure, i also format everything from within Recovery...
What more can i do here ??
Pleace,if your phone is stable, can you tell me exactly what rom/radio/kernal/ril you use...
My phone was rock stable with factory firmware....
Hey,
When installing roms on the sensation, make sure you follow the guides in the particular thread. It is also important to match recommended radios and rils that go with the specific rom. Make sure you are S-off and cid 11111111. When you are switching roms, you should only have to run the superwipe script, it will set all the partitions for you so that you can flash the rom you choose. Also, before you install ICS, it is recommended that you superwipe BEFORE installing the actual rom to prevent unwanted isssues. Before you do anything else, give me a rundown on what you are currently running.
ROM:
Radio:
RIL:
Kernel:
MODS:
pshdo said:
Hi sensation forum...
I am new to sensation, but not new to android or HTC, as i have 4 different phones with custom firmware on them...
But the sensation give me a lot of problems for some reason...
I have tried ARHD 5.0.2 and Insert Coin 4.0.4, i have also tried Virtuous Inquisition v1.3.0 and HyperSensation CM7.1 v1.2.
The last one is not even ICS based...
All of them give me random reboot cycles...
I have tried 3 different radios also...
Nothing have helped me so far...
I still have a lot of random reboots...
(about every 2-10 min)
When i flash the firmware i use ARHD´s super delete script, but to be shure, i also format everything from within Recovery...
What more can i do here ??
Pleace,if your phone is stable, can you tell me exactly what rom/radio/kernal/ril you use...
My phone was rock stable with factory firmware....
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I have exactly this issue.
I installed ICS Revolution. I had successfully got S-OFF, Installed ClockWork Recovery (updated to latest version), permanently Rooted & obtained SuperCID. I updated radio as recommnded by mike1986 in the ICS post, and wiped the phone with Revolution Super_wipe_Sensation first.
It seemed to run fine apart from Doplhin HD which refused to run properly (so switched to Opera Mobile). However I started to get random reboots.
After a bit I thought to try Insert Coin ICS instead.
I have noticed no real difference in performance and have the identical issue with Dophin HD (back to Opera mobile again).
However I also still have the identical random rebooting issue with this ROM. What else can I do?
maverick0729 said:
Hey,
When installing roms on the sensation, make sure you follow the guides in the particular thread.
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Read for days on these
maverick0729 said:
It is also important to match recommended radios and rils that go with the specific rom. Make sure you are S-off and cid 11111111
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Check
maverick0729 said:
When you are switching roms, you should only have to run the superwipe script, it will set all the partitions for you so that you can flash the rom you choose. Also, before you install ICS, it is recommended that you superwipe BEFORE installing the actual rom to prevent unwanted isssues.
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As stated, I did that before installing Revloution's ICS. BUT I didn't do it before installing Insert Coin. Should I have?
maverick0729 said:
Before you do anything else, give me a rundown on what you are currently running.
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ROM: Insert Coin ICS 4.0.4
Radio: 11.59.3504.00U_11.16.3504.16_M
RIL: What's that? Where do I find it?
Kernel: 3.0.13-g8085863
Any suggestions?
Did you guys flash the firmware update that is needed for the ics rom
blahbl4hblah said:
Did you guys flash the firmware update that is needed for the ics rom
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I did that with Revolution as well as with Insert Coin this time around. Running the latest version
I'm having the same issue. Did a text book install of AHRD. Everything went super smoothly, but getting these reboots. I have tried to swipe everything, have the latest radio and recommended fw and keep getting these crashes. Not only it's driving me nuts but it makes the phone unuseable... I can't believe we're just 2 to have these problems... Isn't there some king of log we can pull to see what's causing the crash ?
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I suspect it has to do with processor speed that's been tweaked in these roms, but can't seem to find a way to tune it back to stock on the ICS rom...
sorry for the late reply, been busy with holiday stuff.. anyhow, make sure you are NOT installing any mods that are not compatible with the current ICS build. I have had no problems switching between ARHD 3.6.10 and ICS 5.0.2. As long as you have s-off and CID 1111111, you should be good to go. When I changed up from 3.6.10 to ICS 5.0.2, I turned off my phone, went into bootloader, selected the option for recovery, then flashed the superwipe script. After it finished flashing that, it rebooted back into recovery. Following that, I went to install from zip, flashed the updated RUU, cleared cache and dalvik, then flashed ICS 5.0.1 and the 5.0.1 to 5.0.2 update. Everything installed smooth from there.
maverick0729 said:
sorry for the late reply, been busy with holiday stuff.. anyhow, make sure you are NOT installing any mods that are not compatible with the current ICS build. I have had no problems switching between ARHD 3.6.10 and ICS 5.0.2. As long as you have s-off and CID 1111111, you should be good to go. When I changed up from 3.6.10 to ICS 5.0.2, I turned off my phone, went into bootloader, selected the option for recovery, then flashed the superwipe script. After it finished flashing that, it rebooted back into recovery. Following that, I went to install from zip, flashed the updated RUU, cleared cache and dalvik, then flashed ICS 5.0.1 and the 5.0.1 to 5.0.2 update. Everything installed smooth from there.
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That's exactly what I did. Can't find anything different between your story and what's I did, up to when I switched to Insert Coin
I also don't think it's related to CPU speed. My phone is the XE model which ran at 1.5 Ghz on stock ROM and only did about 3 random reboots in 3 months; (now it's every couple of hours).
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using xda premium
I'm doing a full restore and then reinstall. We'll see what happens.
Levraimatt said:
I'm doing a full restore and then reinstall. We'll see what happens.
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Good luck. Hope it helps. Let us know the outcome. My nandroid backup is corrupted so will need to do full wipe of my SD card and phone I think. Then add in a stock ROM
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using xda premium
I'm still getting the reboot on the nand backup (OrangeFR), this sucks big time. Now I'm thinking it may be due to the fw I had to install to use AHRD (PG58IMG) and the new radio. This is where I'm lost. How can I return everything to standard ? If I understand well the ROM doesn't contain those files, they are separate ?
Was thinking that my random reboots were radio or firmware related.
Strange thing is mine have stopped, and all I did was reinstall revolution ICS 5.0.1 then upgrade to 5.0.2. Didn't even wipe first. So even my apps & settings all of which I had installed & configured since I had installed Insert Coin ICS, are all still there. Haven't had a reboot since.
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using xda premium
I switched back to ARHD 3.6.9, did a factory reset+wipe, flashed radio 10.59 and all is fine, I'm somehow reluctant to try again...
I found a solution that worked for me... At last...
I am REALLY sorry that i didn´t answer here before, but i have been really bussy, and actually forgot all about it a few days....
NOW, i also thought that i had some CPU spped issue with the roms, becource i can actually get the same kind of reboot problems on my DHD when i run it over 1500 Mhz...
So i thought that i would lock my sensation to max 900 mhz, and then see what happens... NO change... Still random reboot... Strange...
I then installed a Android 2.3 rom, just to get my phone running again... STILL random reboots...
hmmm....
Now i was confused...
At last i tried to flash a different radio one more time...
I found a radio in some other sensation thread... Flashed it and now my phone works stable...
At least with Virtuos Inquisition 1.3.0... (Proberbly the 1.4.0 will also work, but i have not tried it yet...)
The Radio i had the problems with is the one from mike´s thread...
I actually don´t know why, as i have allways had great success with his roms and his releases on my DHD...
The Radio i use now is 10.58.9035.00U_10.15.9035-02_2...
But sorry, i can´t remember from what thread...
Ok, this is what i have discovered on this reboot issue...
I hope it make some sense, and that this perhaps can help other with the same problems...
Try turning your phone to recovery.Backup if you havent already....Wipe Data/Factory reset then turn the phone off....
Remove the back cover and the SDCARD.Turn the phone back on and see if it runs ok without the SDCARD, if it does reformat the sd using 4ext recovery and it will also align it.
I spoke too soon.
My phone didn't reboot for a day after I switched back to Revolution ICS 5.0.2 for about a day, then today it began doing random reboots every few minutes. I had not changed any software, just the area (which might have changed signal and frequency the cell tower uses). So I figured it was time to change firmware and radio.
I had previously (prior to installing custom ICS ROM) flashed the radio to 10.58.9035.00U_10.15.9035.02_2 as recommended by Mike1986 in the Revolution HD ICS thread, and had HBoot 1.7.1111 on my device.
I then downloaded the firmware he posted on his thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1412618
This has put the phone back to HBOOT 1.20.0000 and radio 11.15.3504.16_M
Now it's working well and no reboots yet.
Here's hoping.. time will tell.
No matter what radio or Rom combo I get random ass reboots
Super annoying. I did notice the battery goes from 100% to 10% during this reboot
I have calibrated battey. Wiped stats. I'm lost.
I have even tried a new battery. Wtf. Any ideas?
i cant even flash stock ruu I get a 171 error!!!!
Im gonna throw this phone at the f-ing wall in a min
if you flashed newest radio 11...x.x..., you have to have newest hboot also (1.20.. , i guess). otherwise, you will get random reboot. I had this issue before, and i just flashed order radio( i don't want to update hboot version). problem is solved
tritran18518 said:
if you flashed newest radio 11...x.x..., you have to have newest hboot also (1.20.. , i guess). otherwise, you will get random reboot. I had this issue before, and i just flashed order radio( i don't want to update hboot version). problem is solved
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That's certainly consistent with my experience.
Since the changes I made as per my previous post, I've not had a single random reboot
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using xda premium
Hello!
So there is this annoying thing that's been going on since I firstly rooted my phone and started flashing ROM's, radios etc.
I've been using only ARHD ROM's since they have a great reputation, haven't tried others.
So, I started with ARHD 3.6.x ROM's and now I'm on the latest 6.2.1. XE ( No OC ).
So the problem for me all through my experience with my phone, is getting random reboots at mostly no specific times.
The most common is in this situation:
The phone is just sitting nicely in my pocket, I feel that somebody is calling me. I take the phone out of the pocket, want to answer by unlcoking the phone and ding! it just crashes.
When I turn it on, the random reboots just won't stop until I give the phone a rest and don't use it for a while. Because after a random reboot the reboots just keep on coming, if I use the phone.
This also happens when I just take the phone out of my picket and try to unlock it.
So, mostly it reboots when I try to unlock it.
This just makes the phone unreliable and many times people can't call me because I have no idea that it has crashed in my pocket.
I've been hoping that it would stop with the next version of ARHD but it didn't. The problem keeps comming back.
So I wanted to know: Is there any way to see, what is the soul purpose of those crashes? Is there anyway it's curable? Because I don't know if it's the HW or the SW. When I had stock everything and no root, these problems were not present.
My setup:
* Super CID
* Firmware from 3.24.401.1 & 3.25.401.101 RUU
* Android Revolution HD 6.2.1 XE
* Radio: 11.68.3504.00U_11.21.3504.13_2
* Kernel ( from about info ): 3.0.16-g5e58c5e [email protected] #1
* Any other info you need to help me fully?
the kernel could be the problem...try not to use it and see if it happens again..however i suggest to you to flash the insertcoin rom cause it is the best ics rom out there...trust me try it and you will not be disappointed
I have the same problem with all ROMs, including stock, except for the Virtuous Quattro alphas which I was able to run 20 days straight without a crash (impossible with other ROMs). Also the battery readings after a crash is weird, dropping from eg. 60% before the crash, down to 5% when booting after a crash. I contacted HTC about this and they told me it's probably a faulty mainboard. So I'm planning on sending it back in a few months.
I have the same problem with all sense roms GB and ICS its really frustrating I've had it for some time already
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using xda premium
Today I will try virtuous_quattro_alpha3_pyramid. If it's too buggy, will try the Inqusition. And if I still have any problem, give the InsertCoin a try. Will post my findigs as I get them.
Any idea what kernel to use? Which is the most stable?
not sure but crashes may have something to do with your applications being in sdcard. i have moved all my applications to phone memory (though i don't have many) and i have not had a forced reboot after that. also super-smooth/ultra-smooth rosie helped, with this tweak my phone is really fast now.
using leedroid rom.
If the phone didn't reboot on stock then it's a firmware/software issue - go back to fully stock and see if the problem still occurs.
If not then start from scratch and make sure the checksums match the downloaded file before you install then, especially the firmware and radio file.
From my hd2 days you might first try setting your network manually, as I did hear that even native Android phones can reset during auto network selection.
So now I am on Virtuos Inqusition and the reboots still occur. It's frustrating.
And ONLY when I take my phone out of my pocket to see what time is it.
So I met a guy who is on all stock, without root etc. and he's getting the same issues.
Anyone else having this problem?
Could it really be the HW fault?
Or still could just be because an official ICS ROM for the Sensation hasn't come out yet?
Full wiped?
Did you full wiped it before you upgraded to the latest verison? In many cases reason for reboots are kernel and/or cache related. So maybe something which is still in your cache could bring that output. Another possibility is when you restore apps and settings from System Tuner or Titanium backup. As you are using stock kernel I don't think it should be the problem generator.
1. Do a nandroid backup
2. Full wipe with Mike's script
3. Fresh install ICS rom you like (I'm using Insertcoin 4.5.4 + Ultrasmooth Rosie)
4. Check MD5
5. install custom ROM
6. Don't restore settings/apps from Google.
7. Don't restore apps/settings from Titanium etc...
Just try to use your phone without all your apps installed for a short time.
Good Luck, hope it helps...
Yes, I always Super-Wipe before a fresh install.
But I will re do everything, installing only the timetable for buses - addicted to that app.
Can I restore contacts from google or should that wait for a while?
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So, it's been a while that I've been using Virtous Inqusition with Google sync and nothing else. The original problem still exists, Could this be a HW issue?
I don't really want to go all stock to loose SuperCID and everything else.
So, I guess I have to stick with this problem and leave my Sensation unreliable.
Tomekks said:
So, it's been a while that I've been using Virtous Inqusition with Google sync and nothing else. The original problem still exists, Could this be a HW issue?
I don't really want to go all stock to loose SuperCID and everything else.
So, I guess I have to stick with this problem and leave my Sensation unreliable.
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Do a full wipe and reflash the ROM also wipe the battery stats and perhaps try a different kernel maybe one closer to stock frequency
Sent from my HTC sensation 4g using Tapatalk
Hey guys, I'm having some issues on any ICS roms where my phone would shut down at around 50-60% battery and refuse to start back up. I'm running Virtuous Inquisition 4.0 after wiping everything in 4ext, using the Super CID and the firmware found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767
After going back to Gingerbread, I don't have the issue anymore. Any idea what I could be doing wrong on ICS? I calibrate my battery each time I flash a ROM, so I have no idea what's going on here.
try a kernel with lower clock speed
Mb try different roms? Also you may try to change the kernel and wait for a 1 or 2 days to get your system stable. random boots definetely makes life harder.
For me, same problem. If battery is 60% turns off the sensation. When I restart, it boots up home screen, and turns off again. Only on the charger it goes again.
Stock Rom , Stock Bootloader, S=on
Google translate, sorry.
install this way i have not had that problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542555
fresh install maybe idk but i had two phones and all good plus people on here doing it