Hi,
Since with Android you have a choice for your calls to go thru Google Voice (totally - only international or not at all) I was wondering how it works with AT&T.
If you call another AT&T cell phone it doesn't count in your minutes plan but what if you go trhu Google Voice? Is that consider like a landline to a cell phone? Or AT&T "sees" that you are using a AT&T cell and count the time has cell to cell ?
I hope I was clear in my explanation
I honestly don't know.
This has been discussed before on AT&T's forums.
The question on those forums were posed as: " If I use Google Voice and add that phone number to my "A-List" could I technically get unlimited calls to anyone?"
I'm pretty sure the answer was no. And therefore, I don't think AT&T sees the Google Voice number as anything but a forwarded call.
So if the calls are forwarded, you pay according to where it is forwarded.
Example: All of these go THROUGH Google Voice:
I call another AT&T cell from my AT&T cell. Same network = FREE M2M
I call a landline from my AT&T cell, no M2M, pay for call
This is also equal for when someone dials your Google Voice number.
It does leave questions on how international call are worked out. But I think that is on Google's end, not AT&T's
mymansionisabox said:
I honestly don't know.
This has been discussed before on AT&T's forums.
The question on those forums were posed as: " If I use Google Voice and add that phone number to my "A-List" could I technically get unlimited calls to anyone?"
I'm pretty sure the answer was no. And therefore, I don't think AT&T sees the Google Voice number as anything but a forwarded call.
So if the calls are forwarded, you pay according to where it is forwarded.
Example: All of these go THROUGH Google Voice:
I call another AT&T cell from my AT&T cell. Same network = FREE M2M
I call a landline from my AT&T cell, no M2M, pay for call
This is also equal for when someone dials your Google Voice number.
It does leave questions on how international call are worked out. But I think that is on Google's end, not AT&T's
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I am not sure that is correct, because when you place a google voice call, gv is actually calling you and then calling the other party and joining the calls. So for international you have a incoming local call and you get to pay GV low rates. I have a PBX at home that uses free incoming minutes and therefore with GV free unlimited calling.
Since we have android the callback is in the background, unless you have the update that allows you to call a GV number with a access code assigned to each contact so you don't have to wait for the callback and have a much faster connection.
just checked my usage... bad news...
making calls through GV counts against your minutes... each of my GV calls is going to a GV number and then going to the party i called (even though they're on AT&T as well)...
so, if you're calling an AT&T subscriber, just use your normal dialer... if you're calling any other carrier subscribers (or landlines) use either, depending on what number you want shown on potential caller ID's
just place the call through the GV web app then.
The way to get the free unlimited calls is to go into GV settings and have all calls from GV display on your phone as the GV number. You then give out the GV number as your main number, all incoming calls hit your phone and the number they came from is GV.
Also, when you make out outbound calls, you use GV to set up the call - it rings your cell and comes from your GV number, then connects to whoever you call.
If the GV number is one in your circle, or faves, or whatever ATT calls it, then all are free - but of course you lose caller id on incoming calls.
I have a Sprint data card that I use Skype with. A one and a half hour call through Skype only uses 25MB. Sprint is not able to "see" that I am using VoIP because Skype encrypts the data. This way I make somewhat free calls and its real cheap considering the data from my alloted 5gb. I am anxiously waiting for Skype to start working on ATT Smartphones. I did wonder how GV would work but I'd prefer Skype and use my Skypeout number.
alphadog00 said:
The way to get the free unlimited calls is to go into GV settings and have all calls from GV display on your phone as the GV number. You then give out the GV number as your main number, all incoming calls hit your phone and the number they came from is GV.
Also, when you make out outbound calls, you use GV to set up the call - it rings your cell and comes from your GV number, then connects to whoever you call.
If the GV number is one in your circle, or faves, or whatever ATT calls it, then all are free - but of course you lose caller id on incoming calls.
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Exactly, this also give you the option to press "4" during the call and record the call at GV!
kyphur said:
Exactly, this also give you the option to press "4" during the call and record the call at GV!
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Thanks for the press 4 trick.. i had no idea.
alphadog00 said:
The way to get the free unlimited calls is to go into GV settings and have all calls from GV display on your phone as the GV number. You then give out the GV number as your main number, all incoming calls hit your phone and the number they came from is GV.
Also, when you make out outbound calls, you use GV to set up the call - it rings your cell and comes from your GV number, then connects to whoever you call.
If the GV number is one in your circle, or faves, or whatever ATT calls it, then all are free - but of course you lose caller id on incoming calls.
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Yeah that is the best way to do it if you want to do a regular voice call. I didn't know ATT had the fav option!
Also what I do is use freepbx at home in a VM with a GV setup so I can make free VOIP calls to anyone in the US. I have voip phone at home and voip software on my phone. I still use GV for voicemail.
In this case i use SIPDROID.
AT&T added a fav option for higher dollar plans. I am not sure what they call it, but they did it keep up with VZW and TMo
at&t's version is called A-List. IIRC, you need to be on a $60 monthly or higher plan. You get to list 10 numbers on your account (not per line) and all in/out calls to those 10 numbers are treated as m2m...
is this possible? i have vonage. its voip. i was wondering if i can use that and get calls on my nexus s . i already use gv for texting if i can pull this off i can cancel the voice plan from tmobile and just have the internet plan. is this possible?
yes no may b?
I'm not an expert with GV but I think you just need to give your Google phone number to people and have them call that. Then set it up to ring you vonage number or cell. For people to call your vonage number and have it ring your cell then you'd have to set up some sort of forwarding for that.
You need a real VOIP SIP account, Vonage is not that.
-Nexus S
Hey guys,
About Groove IP. How on Earth do I program it so that calls to my TMO number will automatically be forwarded to my Google Voice number? I can make outbound calls using Groove IP with no issues as I just access and call via the app directly. But it seems to me incoming calls just go straight to my phone. I don't use minutes too often, but I'd like to save my monthly 100 minute allotment if possible!
In case anyone asks, yes, I have call-forwarding set to Google Chat and I've unchecked the box next to my cell #.
Check your individual contacts and group settings
If I am reading your post correctly, it sounds like you pretty much have the basic settings correct. Groove IP works via Google Talk so it is important that you have added Google Talk as a "phone" on the "Phones" tab in the Google Voice setup via their web interface. It sounds like you have done that though. Since you do not want calls to your GV number to forward to your cell phones number, you need to ensure that you have unchecked the box next to your cell phone entry on that same "Phones" setup page (if you leave the receive text messages and voicemail notification boxes checked, those two things will still work even if you have unchecked the phone for voice forwarding). Once again, it sounds like you have already done this.
I have found that if both Google Talk and the cell phone number are set to forward, the cell phone number will always start ringing before Groove IP starts ringing. Groove IP usually starts ringing around the 3rd ring of the cell phone number. If you are answering your phone on the first few rings, you may not know if Groove IP is really ringings through or not. This does not solve the problem of why your cell phone number is ringing if you have forwarding to it shut off but you might want to do a test call to your GV number and let it ring while watching the display on your cell. If it is ringing through to your cell's number, a screen displaying the caller ID and options to answer the stock dialer should appear. If Groove IP is properly forwaarding to Goole Talk, the the Groove IP screen should come up over the stock caller ID screen somewhere around or after the third ring of your actual cell phone number. If Groove IP does eventually forward through then you know that the Google Talk forwarding is working and you then just need to solve the cell phone forwarding issue. If Groove IP does not forward via Google Talk, there are several things you need to check.....
Groove IP works by default over WiFi but can also use your 3G/4G network if you are not connected to WiFi. That ability is not enabled by default though so you need to go into the Groove IP settings on your cell phone and check the box allowing 3G/4G calling. This sounds like a pretty obvious thing to setup properly but you would be surprised at just how many people overlook that setting.
If that is setup properly and Groove IP is still not ringing through to your cell phone via Google Talk, then you will need to go into the Google Voice settings via the Google Voice webpage and check the settings for your "Groups" (if you have contacts assigned to groups). All of the groups have individual settings for what phones the contacts assigned to that group will ring on. These settings will override the settings on the "Phones" tab in the main settings panel. If Google Talk is not checked for you groups, that will be a problem. You may also want to uncheck your cell phone in the group settings.
You will also need to check how you have each contact setup. If you click on the checkbox next to a contacts name the far right panel will display the information entered for that contact. At the bottom of this there is a link you can click to "Edit Google Voice Settings". Clicking that link will take you to the individual GV settings for that contact. If you have your contacts assigned to groups, then ideally each contact within this individual settings display should be getting their settings from their group assignment. There is a setting at the very top of this page Where you can choose the group you want to use the settings from for that contact. The individual contact will then get thier settings from the group. This can be overriden though and the individual contact settings will override both the group and main settings in Google Voice. Under these individual contact settings there is an area where it lists what to do "When this contact calls you" If it is using the group settings to determine what phones to forward to it will say "Use "Group Name" Phones" in this area and there will also be an edit link next to that. If you click on the edit link, individual entries and checkboxes for the phones you have setup in GV will appear. If the contact(s) has not been assigned to a group then these entries and the boxes to chose them will be there by default. If you do have groups assigned, chosing these individual entries will override the group settings for the phones to ring on. How you want to gio about setting all of that up is really up to you. Groups, no groups or groups for everyone but a few important contacts also have individual phone settings that override their group membership? It does not really matter as long as you have ensured that Google Talk is properly setup in these areas and that your cell phone is not set to forward to its number.
If all of this is properly setup then Groove IP should ring on your cell phone. If your cells number is still forwarding even though it is unchecked throughout the Google Voice settings, try temporarily deleting your cell phone for the Google Voice settings altoghther. Then go ahead and call your GV number and ensure the Google Talk is ringing through to Groove IP on your call. If all of this works, then go ahead and add your cell phone back to the list of phones in Google Voice. You will probably have to ensure the it is not checked by default in the group and contact settings after adding it back.
If your cell number is still ringing through and Groove IP is not ringing (and you are not attached to WiFi), look at your cell phone to see what type of data connection you currently have. If you are currently in a bad area for reception you may not have a 3G or 4G connection. It might say 1G in your notification area. Groove IP needs either WiFi, 3G or 4G and if you do not have any of those currently connected, Groove IP will not work. The Groove IP icon in the notifiaction area will be red instead of green if you do not have a good enough connection for Groove IP to work.
If all of that is good though and all of your settings have been verified as correct and it still does not work, then I have no idea what might be causing the problem. If that is the case you may want to send an e-mail to the Grrove IP developers to see if there are any known issues with your cell phone or if they have any other suggestions.
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I've e-mailed the developers. Someone on a different forum has told me that the answer is no, GrooveIP can only receive calls made to GV #s.
I mis-understood what you were asking. You can make your gv number ring on your cell but if your cell number is dialed you cannot make that number utilize GGroove IP. The trick is to only give out your gv number and to those people that already have your cell number, just tell them to utilize your gv number from now on.
The best solution I've found to save minutes using the same setup is to let the call go to voicemail and then call the person back...may not be the best, but it works.
jdmarano said:
The best solution I've found to save minutes using the same setup is to let the call go to voicemail and then call the person back...may not be the best, but it works.
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Yeah, I've been doing that on and off. Only problem is both Groove IP and Skype (wasted $10 just to test the damn thing out!) are both spotty and too unpredictable.
zeth006 said:
Yeah, I've been doing that on and off. Only problem is both Groove IP and Skype (wasted $10 just to test the damn thing out!) are both spotty and too unpredictable.
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i know this is an old forum
but what i also use is the Vonage app...when Groove is being crappy i let it go to voicemail and call back using the Vonage app...it works for me
I'm on the Galaxy SII with T-mobile $30 prepaid unlimited data plan and using google voice with talkatone for making calls and want to be able to hide my number from showing up on the other parties caller id on certain calls.
I've tried changing the setting in the phone to hide number, didn't work. I've tried adding *67 in front of the number I was dialing in Talkatone but won't even dial when I do that.
look for spoofapp, spoof cell
i haven't tried them yet.. and havent used talkatone yet...
let us know by your experience
thanks
I use my Google Voice number as my main phone number. Recently, I've been getting telemarketers calling my carrier number (T-Mobile).
When the call comes in on my phone, from what I can tell, there's no way for me to know if it's going to my GV number or my carrier number (the only way I can tell is checking my GV app afterwards). I'm looking for a way to have the phone automatically reject or block all incoming calls to my carrier number or to just have the phone not ring/vibrate when a call comes in on that number.
FWIW, my device is a OnePlus One and I'm running Android 5.0.2