I am experiencing some - a little bit annoying - bugs in music playing, and i hope someone could help me..
I am using stock rom, phone is rooted.
Actually I am using poweramp as main music player (which the better one for solving part of my issues) with the following sound andvanced settings:
-no dvc
- buffer size +750
-Thread Audio: Maximal
and music still stutters everytime my phone locks the screen or randomly every 2-3 minutes (i don't know the exact name of the problem, but it's the same as when you're listening to streaming music and it has some buffer problems, it stops for a nanosecond, but you can clearly hear it)
I tried also different options, as it looks like it could be a ram processing problem, by disabling all unnecessary applications i didn't use, sense included (Using Apex right now). Disabling beats doesn't change a lot (and I bought this phone also because of Beats Audio, I won't turn it off)
I tried also some of the custom roms here on the forum but nothing changed... The biggest "ram-eating" applications i have always on are whatsapp and Fb messenger, i wouldn't think it's because of them.
I tried a lot of combinations, this one looks like the better one (music stutters only sometimes).
This problem doesn't exist only with stock music player - that means there must be a way to solve this - but i don't use it because it lacks of a lot of things.
Has anybody ever experienced this problem? Any help?
If you are rooted, you can give another kernel a try.
Maybe stock, oc kernel like Stockbeats Kernel.
Don't forget the backup before.
old.splatterhand said:
If you are rooted, you can give another kernel a try.
Maybe stock, oc kernel like Stockbeats Kernel.
Don't forget the backup before.
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I already tried the Flashbeats ROM without success, did it use this kernel?
gibihr said:
I already tried the Flashbeats ROM without success, did it use this kernel?
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Flashbeats rom use Flashbeats kernel, Stockbeats kernel is a bit different to that. So maybe try and see if it helps.
I installed it buy still stuttering when i open browser while listening to music or turn on wifi
Maybe try to change oc, govenor and/or I/O scheduler.
If this also don't help, i have no idea atm.
gibihr said:
I installed it buy still stuttering when i open browser while listening to music or turn on wifi
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I have the same stuttering problem with stock JB rom and Poweramp and Google Play Music.
I haven't managed to find out cause or solution. Basically any third party music player is practically unusable.
Stock music player works perfectly, also to my ear with superior music quality, but not having gapless playback in 2013 is unacceptable. It's probably the only serious defect of the phone.
benotto said:
Same thing here, also with Poweramp (but Google Play Music has the same problem).
I haven't managed to find out cause or solution.
Stock music player works perfectly, also to my ear with superior music quality, but not having gapless playback in 2013 is unacceptable. It's probably the only serious defect of the phone.
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Exactly the same... and I am still hoping someone will find a solution i am no expert, but maybe the fact that with stock music player everything's fine means something...
old.splatterhand said:
Maybe try to change oc, govenor and/or I/O scheduler.
If this also don't help, i have no idea atm.
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I am using trickster mod to see if something changes, can you help me with the settings? I don't know what they mean, and where it would be affecting the music stutter..
Right now its settings are:
TCP congestion : cubic
Read Ahead Buffer size: 128
Scheduler: cfq
Block frequency: YES min 384000 max 1566000
Governor: ondemand (changed into performance a couple of times)
MP Decision OFF
Multicore energy saver:1
GPU -Governor: Ondemand
Max frequency 400
gibihr said:
I am using trickster mod to see if something changes, can you help me with the settings? I don't know what they mean, and where it would be affecting the music stutter..
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Sorry, i don't use Trickster mod. There must somebody else that tell you whats going on.
Hi.
FYI on stock kernel and rom, I tried winamp and there definitely was some stuttering.
On spotify or stock music player no problem at all though.
This behavior doesn't change after the update to Android 4.2. Play Music and Beyondpod still have the stuttering, only the stock music app works fine.
It is also becoming a more significant problem because not only the stock app does not support gapless reproduction, but also when I switched to the Google Now launcher (which I like better than Sense 5) I can no longer use the music widget.
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This behavior doesn't change after the update to Android 4.2. Play Music and Beyondpod still have the stuttering, only the stock music app works fine.
It is also becoming a more significant problem because not only the stock app does not support gapless reproduction, but also when I switched to the Google Now launcher (which I like better than Sense 5) I can no longer use the music widget.
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I solved with playerpro & DSP pack, setting audio buffer to maximum and audio priority to maximum + it supports gapless. I have tried millions of possibilities (kernels, deleting stock apps etc.) but this is the only one which seems to be working in my case. Poweramp stutters less than google play music but stutters anyway (even with high audio priority etc)
You can't get the music widget of the stock music player because it's only a sense widget works only on the sense launcher, unfortunately
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Has anyone noticed if bluetooth headphone buttons can control any other music players other than the HTC Player since the update?
I have tried several music apps (Mixzing, Meridian and a few others) that support a2dp control but my headphones will only control the default player. I have even removed the HTC music player completely from the phone (hoping that the button control would get reassigned to another app) but then the button just doesn't work at all.
The only clue I have comes from the "mixzing" player forum:
http://mixzing.freeforums.org/post92.html?hilit=bluetooth#p92
I got my headphones (Sony Erricson HBH-IS800) after the update was released so I don't know whether or not this is new behavior?
I'm just wondering if anyone else has any experience with this. I'm not a big fan of the default player and would like to get away from it.
I should add that I am using the "Unofficial" Modaco/Obelisk79 2.1c ROM and also the Optimization made by ruskiyab.
I'm curious too. My previous phone (Palm Pre) allowed whatever music app was playing to be controlled via BT. This included Pandora which was very convenient in the car.
atoy74 said:
I'm curious too. My previous phone (Palm Pre) allowed whatever music app was playing to be controlled via BT. This included Pandora which was very convenient in the car.
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I can't get it to work with any other media player including Pandora.
I think I may make a nandroid backup and then flash back to pre-update stock to see if there's any difference.
Don't bother. I checked that my first day with stock ROM. Functions exactly as the custom ROM's do.
atoy74 said:
Don't bother. I checked that my first day with stock ROM. Functions exactly as the custom ROM's do.
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Lol! Thanks for the warning. I was about to attempt it while sitting here at Jiffy Lube.
There's got to be a way to fix this. The guy who posted on the mixzing forum sounded like he was onto something with the button priority assignments for the different media players. I don't know how to change these and probably should not mess with it anyway.
I am looking for a music player with a good graphical equalizer. I have yet to find one that works without flaws...
(Running MIUI ROM on an Inspire 4G)
MIUI stock music player:
Sounds good, equalizer is satisfactory, but you can't tell it what folder to pull music from. It just reads the whole phone. It has a setting that you specify minimum file size for, but that's crap. Should be able to just tell it where to find music and only load that music... It also skips/cuts off etc A LOT!
PlayerPro:
This player has a really crappy equalizer. The only positive I can think of about this app is the ability to use SRS enhancement in HTC phones that have it. This one skips/cuts out music more than any other app I have tried. No matter what happens, screen turns off, like 5-20 rapid cutouts. Quality of playback is poor. Accessing certain features are a pain and needs to be able to be accessed from Menu button while in the player, not just the main screen. But the cutouts for anything happening to the phone, browsing for the next song, volume up/down. Minimizing, screen on off. Huge/a lot of cutouts in playback.
PowerAMP:
This was probably one of the better apps. Great equalizer, very direct navigation to whatever you need. But this player also suffers from the cutouts when locking/unlocking or interacting with the phone. This app does have that Buffer setting, but even set to huge (725ms) it still suffers from these cutouts. And the update that came out today.. well that just screwed it up even more...
UberMusic:
Smooth, looks pretty, can tell it's a complete rip from Zune so I know how to navigate it at least. Cutouts while navigating the phone weren't nearly as bad, or didn't happen. The problem with this app is that it doens't have an equalizer. I googled, and found out that Fede (many may know him from that scam app LPP) promised to implement an equalizer. That same dev also promised a re-write of LPP be the end of 2010 and look where LPP is at.. completely abandoned for this music app. With that history I won't buy his music app until the equalizer is implemented. But based on what he's shown with LPP I don't see that happening for 932750923 years.
WinAmp:
Loved it on my computers since middle school... But for the phone, the cut-outs are almost as bad as PlayerPro, and it also has a pretty crappy equalizer.
Anybody else know of a good/smooth music app, with no cutouts in music playback and a good equalizer?
Thanks!
What do you mean by cut out, I use pamp and really smooth no problem whatsoever
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Music playback like stops/freezes whenever the screen turns off, or on, or when I unlock, or when I hit menu, or when I hit any button on the phone. If I OPEN something, like browser, it chops like crazy.
It's Depend on your phone & rom. I normally use power amp & never have the problems you mentioned. It never cut out except when receiving incoming sms or call receieved.
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Try double twist. If you like it i'd highly advise buying to unlock all features.
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Same problem with double-twist. Didn't even bother to check for an equalizer...
I guess the problem is with MIUI. Figured after years they'd at least have it compatible with music players that millions of people use..
Never have problems with PowerAmp here, either. Could the cutouts maybe be an issue outside of PowerAmp, like your memory card perhaps, considering that it looks like every app you use has them?
Probably a Rom issue, I have no such issues with either playerpro or poweramp
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GTIVRon said:
Same problem with double-twist. Didn't even bother to check for an equalizer...
I guess the problem is with MIUI. Figured after years they'd at least have it compatible with music players that millions of people use..
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I had a similar problem a few phones back with HTC Hero and Desire. I had it underclocked on screen-off and an app-killer killing on screen off/memory killer. Both caused the music to "jump around" and/or kill the music. Underclocking sounds the more obvious issue here.
If not using either, make sure your SD card is class 4 or higher.
Poweramp had never failed me before, but now using google music on CM7 with DSP manager for the GMusic streaming...
Swyped from the past.
Discard this..
Google Music 4.0 with DSP Manager
I am using PowerAmp for an entire year and dont remember having a single cutout. You probably have a problem in your rom.
Yea I believe it might be a ROM issue, others in the ROM thread confirmed they also have this problem. I'm using the SD card that came with the phone, not sure what class it is...
Thanks for the tips!
ive tried all of the apps you mentioned except poweramp and none of them had "cutouts"
I am starting this thread coz I have been observing Audio stutter in each & every MIUI/CM9/AOKP cROM made for i9003.
Tried allmost all kind of popular music player available, but none of the player was able to remove the audio stutter.
I tried all possible remedies, like:-
-Removing DSP
-With DSP
-Without any custom equalizer
-Different bit rate for mp3 files
-Different format s of audio files
I asked lot of times in different forums but got no response.
I think this is a very important thing along with other issues like Backlight/Blacklight/Camera/Battery life/smoothness for a cROM.
I hope to get resolution for the same.
Right now there is no solution at all. Dhiru is working on audio files. But he is more worried about kernel 3.0. For camera, hardware acceleration, smoothness kernel 3.0 is the only option.
This thread should be in general section.
vishal24387 said:
Right now there is no solution at all. Dhiru is working on audio files. But he is more worried about kernel 3.0. For camera, hardware acceleration, smoothness kernel 3.0 is the only option.
This thread should be in general section.
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Thanx for the reply....!!
I know Dhiru is working very hard and his priorities are different, but this stutter thing is pretty annoying.....!!
I hope i will get my query answered here thats why didnt post in General section. If its violation of forum rule I will move it.
Use a player with buffer like poweramp and set it to the high valor
I flashed beats audio after installing dhiru' s rom... I'm not getting any audio stutter..may b this is the solution ..or not.. I don't know...finally I'm not getting it
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Don't use MIUI launcher. (this is the worst)
Delete MusicFx from AOKP/ Dspmanager from ICS.
Use Instinctiv / xPlay Music player (both are free)
Or flash the attached player.
This will reduce the frequency. Does not completely remove it.
Shutter issue was fixed in Alpha 4.
dhiru1602 said:
Shutter issue was fixed in Alpha 4.
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No, It is still there and very irritating too. U hear screeching sounds sometimes.But most of the times it is a stutter.
ganeshbiyer said:
Don't use MIUI launcher. (this is the worst)
Delete MusicFx from AOKP/ Dspmanager from ICS.
Use Instinctiv / xPlay Music player (both are free)
Or flash the attached player.
This will reduce the frequency. Does not completely remove it.
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I have removed Music FX from AOKP rom and installed Instinctiv music player....!!
Now the stutter has gone but, there is a very small break instead of stutter..!!
But anyhow it is way better then the annoying STUTTER sound.
And the interface is great in this player.
Thanx.
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Its is not completely gone.....!!
The loudness of the stutter is quite low compare to pre aplha 4, but its still there.
Trying different players only reducing the frequency of stutter. Sometimes it is like a break in place of stutter sound.
So this may have something to do with the MP3 decoders. Currently we are using software decoding for all AOSP roms since we don't have a proper functional DSP.
I see no issues with the Audio HAL that might cause the shutter since there is no such issue when dealing with basic sounds like Ringtones or Notifications. Have you tried playing lower bitrate MP3 songs? Does it still shutter?
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So this may have something to do with the MP3 decoders. Currently we are using software decoding for all AOSP roms since we don't have a proper functional DSP.
I see no issues with the Audio HAL that might cause the shutter since there is no such issue when dealing with basic sounds like Ringtones or Notifications. Have you tried playing lower bitrate MP3 songs? Does it still shutter?
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ur right....!!
I have observed Upto the bitrate of 128KBPS the stutter is very low & with higher bitrate the stutter is very much increased.
But have not tried any MP3 file with the bitrate of below 128kbps, will try to play one to test it.
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So this may have something to do with the MP3 decoders. Currently we are using software decoding for all AOSP roms since we don't have a proper functional DSP.
I see no issues with the Audio HAL that might cause the shutter since there is no such issue when dealing with basic sounds like Ringtones or Notifications. Have you tried playing lower bitrate MP3 songs? Does it still shutter?
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Im using Playerpro with the DSP pack,i have deleted the DSP manager from system apps,i have no shutters at all works perfectly,oh btw there is a setting in Playerpro with Dsp pack to increase or decrease the Audio Buffer,may be that made the shutters go away,in short i have no audio shutters at all
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Im using Playerpro with the DSP pack,i have deleted the DSP manager from system apps,i have no shutters at all works perfectly,oh btw there is a setting in Playerpro with Dsp pack to increase or decrease the Audio Buffer,may be that made the shutters go away,in short i have no audio shutters at all
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I tried the way u did.....and guess what....stutter is gone now.....!!!
For past 2-3 months I m trying to remove this stutter.....and finally today I did it.....!!!
Thanx a lot dude....!!!
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dhiru1602 said:
So this may have something to do with the MP3 decoders. Currently we are using software decoding for all AOSP roms since we don't have a proper functional DSP.
I see no issues with the Audio HAL that might cause the shutter since there is no such issue when dealing with basic sounds like Ringtones or Notifications. Have you tried playing lower bitrate MP3 songs? Does it still shutter?
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Its not over yet i posted u before @ ur thread with logcat. It keeps shuttering as the system try to free memory.
If u want logcats i can provide u many i dont wait much time to have a shutter
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A workaround:
It's due to the load on the CPU. Generally, the sound chip on a system handles all the decoding and DA conversions, but here, the CPU is taking on the load instead.
Using the "V6 SuperCharger" script and Poweramp's higher priority settings, along with DVC enabled, I've got the stutter down to a minimum (it still stutters when running taxing applications like Chrome Beta). I suggest using the "V6 Supercharger" scripts for now.
V6 Supercharger:
Link to the OP: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16635544
Link to download of "Update 8" (latest as of this post): http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=661892&d=1311292674 ***OPENS AS A TEXT FILE IN THE BROWSER. RECOMMEND DOWNLOAD OF "UPDATE 8" FROM OP LINK ABOVE.***
With Regards to ICS (This pertains to keeping the default launcher in memory, I find this useful): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16635544&postcount=2
You need to use a Script execution program such as Script Manager (Free - Ad Supported).
Doesn't need to be executed every startup. It's a One-shot type of script.
I recommend reading through the OP before executing.
Cheers!
Erahgon said:
It's due to the load on the CPU. Generally, the sound chip on a system handles all the decoding and DA conversions, but here, the CPU is taking on the load instead.
Using the "V6 SuperCharger" script and Poweramp's higher priority settings, along with DVC enabled, I've got the stutter down to a minimum (it still stutters when running taxing applications like Chrome Beta). I suggest using the "V6 Supercharger" scripts for now.
V6 Supercharger:
Link to the OP: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16635544
Link to download of "Update 8" (latest as of this post): http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=661892&d=1311292674 ***OPENS AS A TEXT FILE IN THE BROWSER. RECOMMEND DOWNLOAD OF "UPDATE 8" FROM OP LINK ABOVE.***
With Regards to ICS (This pertains to keeping the default launcher in memory, I find this useful): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16635544&postcount=2
You need to use a Script execution program such as Script Manager (Free - Ad Supported).
Doesn't need to be executed every startup. It's a One-shot type of script.
I recommend reading through the OP before executing.
Cheers!
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will it remove stutter? and also could anyone make a flashable zip for that? :/
I don't really care what the ROM looks like although it's definitely a plus if it looks good. I'm mainly looking for a ROM that's designed specifically for music usage & playback. I'm going to download Voodoo Sound on top whatever ROM I flash unless it's included. But before I downloaded Cyanogen or something I was checking with you guys if you had seen any audiophile specific ROMS around lately? This one looked promising but it's not a Verizon model. Is there any ports around? Or would this even be worth it with the Voodo Sound on top with Neutron player?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2174644
Thank you guys for all of your help. I appreciate it. & this may be in the wrong place but I'm not sure so if it is then my apologies.
From a code/programming perspective, there's no difference in roms, other than the audio add-ons they offer... but those add-ons are nothing more than compression and equalizer tools. Beatz Audio, DSP Manager, Voodoo... all are just compression tools to 'beef up' sound and they give you equalizing customization, but you can do that kind of equalization with apps like Doubletwist. The digital compression those add-ons and apps use is teh evil if you're an audiophile, because it overcompensates and 'chops the head' off sound.
You're not going to get an audiophile experience on a phone, because of the hardware used; there's always going to be some signal to noise ratio loss from the headphone plug and device board. Bluetooth can reduce the S/N reduction, but most aftermarket roms aren't working well with BT for prolonged use (I've had good luck with the 4.3 roms, but not 4.4). If you want the best performance, get an AOSP-based rom, then add in all the apps you want to eqing.
I'm a music producer, so I try to avoid all that compression crap whenever possible... eqing is about all I'll do to a properly-mastered release. Case-in-point, I play older jazz FLACs all the time on Doubletwist; I use the EQ feature and it sounds about as good as you can get on an S3.
beepea206 said:
From a code/programming perspective, there's no difference in roms, other than the audio add-ons they offer... but those add-ons are nothing more than compression and equalizer tools. Beatz Audio, DSP Manager, Voodoo... all are just compression tools to 'beef up' sound and they give you equalizing customization, but you can do that kind of equalization with apps like Doubletwist. The digital compression those add-ons and apps use is teh evil if you're an audiophile, because it overcompensates and 'chops the head' off sound.
You're not going to get an audiophile experience on a phone, because of the hardware used; there's always going to be some signal to noise ratio loss from the headphone plug and device board. Bluetooth can reduce the S/N reduction, but most aftermarket roms aren't working well with BT for prolonged use (I've had good luck with the 4.3 roms, but not 4.4). If you want the best performance, get an AOSP-based rom, then add in all the apps you want to eqing.
I'm a music producer, so I try to avoid all that compression crap whenever possible... eqing is about all I'll do to a properly-mastered release. Case-in-point, I play older jazz FLACs all the time on Doubletwist; I use the EQ feature and it sounds about as good as you can get on an S3.
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That's very helpful. So what's your favorite player then? I don't necessarily like carrying around a phone & a player for mobile listening but if I have to then so be it. I've been using Poweramp EQ'd pushing my vsonic gr07's for portable use. It was pretty good with the FLACS I have but I feel like it could be better. How much of a difference does the Voodoo mod make? Will it even work with Verizon galaxy s3 since it wasn't shipped with the Wolfson DAC? Either way I'm using a FiiO E17 with it which has Wolfson. I'm just trying to get this all figured out.
Truth be told, I haven't found that one player I really love. If I could mix Winamp with Doubletwist, I'd have my perfect player... DT doesn't have very good playlist support and Winamp is clunky, but I love the feel of DT.
Voodoo is really similar to CM's DSP Manager and is a more customizable version of BeatsAudio; I honestly don't know if Voodoo works with the S3, but DSP manager does. The both offer compression and EQ control, so if you have low-quality MP3s, they'll sound better than stock sound will make them. If you have a music app like Poweramp or Doubletwist, you don't need to use the EQ control in Voodoo, so what's left is just the compression feature. Personally, I stay away from compression apps/mods like the plague, because they end up altering the sound of the file and, IMO, if it's a properly mastered file/recording, you don't need compression (except for maybe some tube compression on a standalone amp for some 'warmer' sound... but that's not applicable here).
I stick to using EQ controls in the players apps. If you try that and just don't find they offer you the sound you want, then try an app like Voodoo. But be forewarned, I've seen (and experienced) some issues on other devices where apps like that can alter the audio framework of the rom permanently, so even after you uninstall it, the sound remains affected.
Best is in the eye of the beholder.
Users are expected to do their own research and try Roms to see what suits them best.
As xda is not a support site, this thread is closed.
I'm wondering of there is an easy effort that I can do to disable the volume duck that occurs when I receive a notification (while listening to music)
Some ROMs have a setting g for this, but I'm wondering if someone could direct me to the proper file I might edit and turn this feature OFF..
I like my notification sound to just play over the music, or just not bother me..
Thx.
Mal_toofy said:
I'm wondering of there is an easy effort that I can do to disable the volume duck that occurs when I receive a notification (while listening to music)
Some ROMs have a setting g for this, but I'm wondering if someone could direct me to the proper file I might edit and turn this feature OFF..
I like my notification sound to just play over the music, or just not bother me..
Thx.
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Pretty sure this has to do with what app you're using for playing music, and whether it uses the mediaplayer of your device or it's own custom one.
it's true, I hated the ducking but was able to disable it in PowerAMP settings.
marquimsp said:
it's true, I hated the ducking but was able to disable it in PowerAMP settings.
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Yeah, PowerAMP uses its own media service.
Is there a music player that has this feature that doesn't cost money? I'll pay for Poweramp if there isn't. VLC for Android, for instance, doesn't have this feature.
Edit: After some trial and error with various programs, I've discovered that MX Player plays back audio without ducking, but a drawback is that it doesn't have dynamic playlist creation capabilities (you need your files ordered in folders). It also plays Opus files, which is something that I was also looking for.
Another app, Rocket Player, will let you choose *between* ducking and pausing (under Settings->Sound->Audio Focus->Temp Focus Action), but it won't let you disable the action completely. That being said, I've found that for audio books and podcasts, I actually prefer pausing to ducking or no ducking, so I like Rocket Player in this respect (same goes with Poweramp).
guys,COS 12+ has this option in their OS. the question is there any xposed modules to do the same action like in COS ?? ( I'm not sure if it's available in CM12+ roms or not ) any idea?
Dirty unicorn have this feature and its working great.
mohawahba said:
guys,COS 12+ has this option in their OS. the question is there any xposed modules to do the same action like in COS ?? ( I'm not sure if it's available in CM12+ roms or not ) any idea?
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did u find any xposed module for that feature?