Had to get warranty replacement Charge today. Had original since debut. (they didn't have re-furb, wanted to send me one, told them I was leaving town and they gave me bran new one !!)
I am rooted, using EE4dxvodo_DXC. I had used free version of Titanium in the past and deleted several appz. I decided to purchase pro so I could freeze appz this time. Installd free, paid for pro and it installed it. I now open Titanium and it only shows the overview screen. There are no tabs to where I can get to the apps on the phone. I click the change profile button and it says 'functin not available on older Charg ROMS' ??
The free version worked just fine with same Odin on last phone. Is there something I am missing here?
Thanx in advance for any help.
Steve
Chopstix9 said:
Had to get warranty replacement Charge today. Had original since debut. (they didn't have re-furb, wanted to send me one, told them I was leaving town and they gave me bran new one !!)
I am rooted, using EE4dxvodo_DXC. I had used free version of Titanium in the past and deleted several appz. I decided to purchase pro so I could freeze appz this time. Installd free, paid for pro and it installed it. I now open Titanium and it only shows the overview screen. There are no tabs to where I can get to the apps on the phone. I click the change profile button and it says 'functin not available on older Charg ROMS' ??
The free version worked just fine with same Odin on last phone. Is there something I am missing here?
Thanx in advance for any help.
Steve
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is the sd card the same? I thought TiBu saves settings/data to a folder on the sd card
I have a copy of that folder on my desktop, yes. I restored the sd card to basic stock before turning in the phone, not wanting them to know it had been rooted. That's not the point however:
When you open Titanium, there is a tab where it will display all apps on the phone and give you the option of deleting or freezing them. If you try to freeze them with the free version, it tells you that option is only available with the pro version.
Now when I open Titanium, none of that is accessible. It only gives a single overview page of ram status and such. There is no way to get to any other pages within Titanium to manipulate the appz.
The phone is rooted successfully, Open Garden Wifi tether gets granted superuser permissions and super user gives the option to allow/deny permissions. Titanium doesn't seem to be working and I was wondering if anyone else had run into this issue.
I was even rooted with the same ROM on the old phone ...
Chopstix9 said:
I have a copy of that folder on my desktop, yes. I restored the sd card to basic stock before turning in the phone, not wanting them to know it had been rooted. That's not the point however:
When you open Titanium, there is a tab where it will display all apps on the phone and give you the option of deleting or freezing them. If you try to freeze them with the free version, it tells you that option is only available with the pro version.
Now when I open Titanium, none of that is accessible. It only gives a single overview page of ram status and such. There is no way to get to any other pages within Titanium to manipulate the appz.
The phone is rooted successfully, Open Garden Wifi tether gets granted superuser permissions and super user gives the option to allow/deny permissions. Titanium doesn't seem to be working and I was wondering if anyone else had run into this issue.
I was even rooted with the same ROM on the old phone ...
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is it the most up to date version? could've been a bad download perhaps? I've never heard of that happening with Tibu, paid or free
I have had tibu do that before. But a reboot seem to fix it.
Sent from my VooDoo Gummy Charge
*shrug* ... it ain't workin' that's for sure ... I un-installed tibu and re-installed it; made sure superuser had lastest binary; tibu is getting SU permissions, but no apps list is available in tibu, only an overview page.
Though this is the same ROM I was rooted under on other phone before the swap and it worked fine. Not running any kernel with it just straight forward EE4dxvodo_DXC
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
Moving to Q&A
Chopstix9 said:
I have a copy of that folder on my desktop, yes. I restored the sd card to basic stock before turning in the phone, not wanting them to know it had been rooted. That's not the point however:
When you open Titanium, there is a tab where it will display all apps on the phone and give you the option of deleting or freezing them. If you try to freeze them with the free version, it tells you that option is only available with the pro version.
Now when I open Titanium, none of that is accessible. It only gives a single overview page of ram status and such. There is no way to get to any other pages within Titanium to manipulate the appz.
The phone is rooted successfully, Open Garden Wifi tether gets granted superuser permissions and super user gives the option to allow/deny permissions. Titanium doesn't seem to be working and I was wondering if anyone else had run into this issue.
I was even rooted with the same ROM on the old phone ...
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I assume you have at ready looked at the menu that comes up when you press the menu button. I think that the functionality that you are looking for is under Filters to select stuff that you want to work with and Batch to actually do stuff like bloat freezing, backups, restores, etc..
Teclast P78HD 7" Retina Allwinner A31 Android 4.4.2 firmware upgrade + root (tablet)
http://liliputing.com/2014/05/teclast-p78hd-7-inch-full-hd-tablet-100.html
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Costing only about $100, the Teclast P78HD tablet is a decent bargain 7" tablet. It has a quad-core Allwinner A31 CPU, a 1920 x 1200 display, Android 4.4.2 KitKat, microSD slot, and micro-HDMI.
It lacks GPS and not pre-rooted. I purchased from TinyDeal.com and added a couple of bucks for faster, more reliable ePacket delivery.
The original firmware v1.1.2 comes with a boatload of (unwanted) pre-installed Chinese apps, most cannot be uninstalled, using up valuable internal storage space and reducing available RAM. The Teclast tUI launcher seems to try to prevent the user from accessing all apps since it lacks an "all apps" circle button. It does have Google Play Store installed along with a Chinese TaiDian apps store. I immediately downloaded the Nova launcher to replace the tUI launcher.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.launcher
General operation seemed quite snappy and the Retina display resolution was clearly noticed while playing movies. I did get the impression that internet web access seemed a bit slower than it should be.
The P78HD is much lighter (half of the weight?) of my Nexus 7 (2012) tablet. Most of the lower weight is likely to be from a thinner battery. So, the downside is shorter battery time and upside is faster full charging.
The light weight makes the P78HD more comfortable for extended use than the Nexus 7. That comfort, however, was diminished by the hard metallic bezel edges of the P78HD when compared to the Nexus 7's softer rounded edges. When holding the P78HD in landscape mode, the wider top/bottom bezel was comfortable. In portrait mode, however, it was much less so. For comfort, I would definitely recommend adding a soft case/shell, example: http://gd1.alicdn.com/imgextra/i1/678991471/T2um7tXqJaXXXXXXXX-678991471.jpg
I unsuccessfully tried several links and ways to "root" the P78HD in order to uninstall all the unwanted Chinese apps. There is a Teclast app called Update. One of the advertised features of Teclast is its easier OTA updates. Since a new firmware version v2.03 was just released, I tried to update, hoping that the new firmware would be "pre-rooted". Using the "automated" option of the Teclast Update app, I got an error (in bad English) that basically said that the file could not be found.
I then searched for a link to download new firmware in order to use the Teclast Update "manual update" option. The downloaded v2.03 firmware ( http://dl.dbank.com/c0ckts308s ) comes packaged in RAR format. I used Windows 7Zip to unpack the *.rar file and extracted the actual *.img file. I also repacked the package as a new *.zip file. I copied the *.rar, *.zip, and *.img files to the P78HD's internal sdcard root directory. Unfortunately, even the "manual update" option just gave a failure message when trying to update using the *.rar, *.zip, or *.img file as source. My experience suggests that the Teclast "Update" app is simply broken, at least for firmware updates.
Next method, try the Allwinner PhoenixSuit Windows software included in the downloaded RAR package. The MSI install program is in the Chinese language but you can probably guess how it works. If not, here is a (not tested) English version: http://itead.me/ITEADDownload/software/PhoenixSuit_EN.msi
I started the PhoenixSuit software. It asks to upgrade to the latest version. I connected the P78HD via USB and got this display:
I clicked the Firmware tab and entered my source file P78HD(C4A5).img location. It failed. As my programmer hunch, I renamed the file to remove the parentheses and put it in C:\ root directory. This time it starts working.
You have two options: (Y) format or (N) normal upgrade. I wanted a clean start without any leftover bloatware apps so I chose YES.
The v2.03 firmware transfer process starts and when done the P78HD reboots. Everything worked fine.
Upon reboot I note that there are far fewer bloatware Chinese apps. Of course, I have to go into Settings, find the "A" icon and change the language from Chinese to English (top line). Next, set up my WI-FI and add my Google Account. Then add a few apps, starting with Nova launcher. Unfortunately, v2.03 firmware is still not rooted. However, I decided to try Kingo Android ROOT again (it did not work with v1.1.2 firmware.) With the P78HD connected via USB, this time it seems to work but too quickly. I checked using a Root Verifier app on the P78HD. It says no. I then try the Kingo ROOT AGAIN option. This time it really works.
Now as a rooted device, I used the Root App Delete app to uninstall pre-installed Chinese software, users apps and a few "system apps". (For safety, you can use PhoenixSuit's APK tab to backup most of your apps first.)
Next, I ran AnTuTu and AnTuTu X benchmark apps to compare to my Nexus 7 (2012) tablet.
Code:
AnTuTu AnTuTu X
Nexus 7 (2012) 13,309 13,730
Teclast P78HD 20,795 12,790
Using the DiskInfo app, it seems that memory optimization in Google's Nexus 7 is lacking in the P78HD. Ditto for internal storage usage.
As someone who experiments with lots of apps, I have about 300 apps installed on my old Nexus 7. So far, I have less than 100 on the P78HD. One reason is that even by moving from internal to SDcard storage, you have to manage the internal storage space much more deliberately on the P78HD. Despite having 3 times as many apps on my Nexus 7, I am able to keep my internal storage usage considerably lower than on the P78HD. Regarding RAM usage, the Nexus 7 is typically under 50% in use while the P78HD is over 70%.
Bottom line: Google's optimizations on its Nexus line can make up for a lot when compared to better spec'd but less optimized competing tablets. For the price, however, the Teclast P78HD is no slouch in performance or stability. It is still quite a bargain if screen resolution, and micro-SD and HDMI features and cost are high on your list of priorities.
Thank you for the info :victory: if you find other update please share did you notice some weird things ? like desktop icons disappear randomly, fast battery drain an when you are on 10% last more, if you update supersu app can't update su binary, see ya!
sparkly81 said:
Thank you for the info :victory: if you find other update please share did you notice some weird things ? like desktop icons disappear randomly, fast battery drain an when you are on 10% last more, if you update supersu app can't update su binary, see ya!
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I never had icons disappear but maybe because I don't use the Teclast tUI launcher. I had no problem with the much better Nova launcher.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.launcher
I did decide that Teclast's less than ideal internal memory management required something better than the built-in Android App2SD method used by utilities like Clean Master, SD Maid, All-in-One Toolbox, and AppMgr III. These utilties are only able to move a small proportion of apps to the internal SD card. If you plan to install lots of apps, you need something better like Link2SD.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.buak.Link2SD
To use Link2SD, your tablet must be rooted and you need to divide an external microSD card into two "primary partitions", (1) one FAT32 (Windows) partition and (2) one EXT4 (Linux) partition. I used Partition Wizard's free "MiniTool" partition manager:
http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html
I used a 16GB class 10 micro-SD card. I made the first (FAT32) partition 14GB and the second (EXT4) partition 2GB.
2GB is probably far more than enough for moved apps and linking used by Link2SD, especially if you go to Link2SD Settings and change preferred Move2SD location to "Internal".
I plan to leave this 16GB micro-SD card in my Teclast P78HD permanently. (The reason: if this external SD is not present while the tablet is active, you are likely to really screw up some links and changes made by Link2SD. Your moved apps may be considered either missing or corrupted.)
Using Link2SD, I can now move almost all "user apps" from "internal storage" to (external) sdcard, apps that cannot be moved by these other utilities. I can also "really" uninstall most of the unwanted Chinese apps that other utility programs claim to uninstall but actually fail to do so.
I am not certain if this is correct, but I tend prefer to use Link2SD's "move2SD" method and not Link2SD's "link" method because (1) links may be more vulnerable to corruption (2) links may add possible overhead that "could" slow things down or use more memory. If this is wrong, I hope that someone who is more experienced with Link2SD can correct me.
Is there another download location for the firmware ??
Download breaks after 65Mb
helmuteke said:
Is there another download location for the firmware ??
Download breaks after 65Mb
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This appears to be the same site with a different URL:
http://dl.vmall.com/c0ckts308s
I downloaded in the early morning at 2AM PST.
Alternate link to the Allwinner PhoenixSuit (Windows to Android) firmware "installer" software:
http://www.gooplusplus.com/minmedia...5)-Android4.4.2-V2.03/升级程序/PhoenixSuit_CN.msi
gooplusplus.com said:
This appears to be the same site with a different URL:
http://dl.vmall.com/c0ckts308s
I downloaded in the early morning at 2AM PST.
Alternate link to the Allwinner PhoenixSuit (Windows to Android) firmware "installer" software:
http://www.gooplusplus.com/minmedia...5)-Android4.4.2-V2.03/升级程序/PhoenixSuit_CN.msi
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Hi, but could you also upload new firmware on google drive or dropbox?
I have 4kb/s download speed and it always fail after approx.1mb - for me no way to update to 2.03 (((
Thank you!
stillka said:
Hi, but could you also upload new firmware on google drive or dropbox?
I have 4kb/s download speed and it always fail after approx.1mb - for me no way to update to 2.03 (((
Thank you!
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A link to the P78HD firmware 2.03 img plus 2 zipped files: (1) PhoenixSuit firmware installer and (2) Kingo root installer.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7zFYhiYFlqTaDdVX3JxNVVWQ0U&usp=sharing
gooplusplus.com said:
A link to the P78HD firmware 2.03 img plus 2 zipped files: (1) PhoenixSuit firmware installer and (2) Kingo root installer.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7zFYhiYFlqTaDdVX3JxNVVWQ0U&usp=sharing
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Hi, thank you!
I am really looking forward to root and update the FW on this tablet.
Did you also optimized it somehow? (modify of build.prob etc..)
I think there is lot of space for optimization because device is laggy in normal 2D mode, more that my old 1 core 512MB memory phone on Android 4.4. Also kernel is pretty old on original FW 1.1.2, CPU is underclocked (looks like)....
Otherwise it's good tables, screen is great, resolution is ideal for web browsing. I don't play games so 3D performance is not a problem for me.
HD movies are played smoothly and OK
Hi,
I have problem root the device, your kingo_android_root.zip archive is "infected" regarding google drive:
"Sorry, this file is infected with a virus
Only the owner is allowed to download infected files."
I have tried to root over version I downloaded from internet but it doesn't work, it detect that device is already rooted (not true) and re-root is not successful.
Any idea? What version of Kingo root do you have tested and it's working OK?
stillka said:
Hi,
I have problem root the device, your kingo_android_root.zip archive is "infected" regarding google drive:
"Sorry, this file is infected with a virus
Only the owner is allowed to download infected files."
I have tried to root over version I downloaded from internet but it doesn't work, it detect that device is already rooted (not true) and re-root is not successful.
Any idea? What version of Kingo root do you have tested and it's working OK?
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It is not infected. Rooting software typically contains methods to bypass security so you may get a false positive.
Here's the direct download link: http://www.kingoapp.com/android-root/download.htm
For rooting, make sure that you have enabled "USB debugging" in your tablet's Settings -> Developer options
Connect to a USB 2.0 port if possible and not a USB 3.0 port.
Swipe down from top of the tablet's screen to see notifications.
The bottom line notification will probably be 'Connect as ...'
Click that line and make sure that 'USB large storage' is checked (not MTP or PTP)
Swipe down again from the top line notification may say 'USB connected'
Click that line and click 'Turn on USB storage'
After it is "really" connected, try the Kingo Root software again.
If "ROOT" or "ROOT AGAIN" works, then you're done.
If not, disconnect the USB cable and reconnect a few seconds later. Try again.
gooplusplus.com said:
It is not infected. Rooting software typically contains methods to bypass security so you may get a false positive.
Here's the direct download link: http://www.kingoapp.com/android-root/download.htm
For rooting, make sure that you have enabled "USB debugging" in your tablet's Settings -> Developer options
Connect to a USB 2.0 port if possible and not a USB 3.0 port.
Swipe down from top of the tablet's screen to see notifications.
The bottom line notification will probably be 'Connect as ...'
Click that line and make sure that 'USB large storage' is checked (not MTP or PTP)
Swipe down again from the top line notification may say 'USB connected'
Click that line and click 'Turn on USB storage'
After it is "really" connected, try the Kingo Root software again.
If "ROOT" or "ROOT AGAIN" works, then you're done.
If not, disconnect the USB cable and reconnect a few seconds later. Try again.
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Hi,
I have found that I must turn on "USB Storage", then it's rooting really successful
So correct procedure is:
- turn USB debugging ON
- select "USB large storage" in "USB computer connection" pop-up
- >> activate USB storage in "USB connected" pop-up << (this was missing in my previous attempt)
After that, rooting is succesfull!
I have removed over 20 applications and now I have 13862 score in AntutuX. In older fw was around 11000.
There is also possible to overclock CPU from default 1200Mhz up to 1450Mhz. For me, 1350Mhz is max. stable.
So I can finally recommend this tablet, it's great ☺
Now it would be great to figure out how to enable CWM...
Great! thanks for the info!
I was able to upgrade and root the P78HD on hand but some of the apps which I removed, eg. PPTV,baiduIME, etc, get restored back on reboot. any idea why and what is the culprit?
chunyun said:
Great! thanks for the info!
I was able to upgrade and root the P78HD on hand but some of the apps which I removed, eg. PPTV,baiduIME, etc, get restored back on reboot. any idea why and what is the culprit?
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Yes, those application are always re-installed during the boot because they are in special directory "/system/preinstall"
Uninstall them and go to this directory and remove them forever!
Thanks! Yeah, removed!
So far not bad except some intermittent lag and battery drain a bit fast. Have to use for a few more days for sure.
chunyun said:
Thanks! Yeah, removed!
So far not bad except some intermittent lag and battery drain a bit fast. Have to use for a few more days for sure.
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With Nova launcher installed, everything is quite smooth and fast. 13000+ in AntutuX is more than acceptable for that price
And the screen is really great for web browsing!
I am now looking for more optimization through build.prop tuning.
I have tried enable ART but it's not working, It hang during the boot.
back to dalvik....
stillka said:
Yes, those application are always re-installed during the boot because they are in special directory "/system/preinstall"
Uninstall them and go to this directory and remove them forever!
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If I remember right, when you uninstall pre-installed apps like PPTV by using Link2SD, they are permanently removed.
BTW, I recently rooted my Motorola Moto E (Kingo Root did NOT work for this device). Based on my experience with the Moto E, I changed my mind about which method (1) Move2SD or (2) Linking to use with Link2SD. I find that I now prefer the "link" method and it seems to work without problem, perhaps because links are made on an EXT4 partition.
Some applications are missing in google play store for me, like google+
Do you have same experience?
Yup, the same, I do not see Google+ in my play store
chunyun said:
Yup, the same, I do not see Google+ in my play store
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I was able to manually install apk after I copied some missing files from my smartphone so it's running ok now, question is how to fix market generally...
update: I have installed "Market_Unlocker_3.5_PRO_FULLY_UNLOCKED.apk" and set correct Country, clear Google Store cache/data and now I see all apps including Google Plus.
Hi, I have a MID-756, also known as an F900, Quadcore A33, with Android 4.4.2. A bog-standard cheap tablet, but having installed a 10,000mah battery, quite a useful device that lasts for several days.
The performance isn't super-sparkly and it does appear to run out of some types of memory sometimes, with browsers prone to shutting down without warning when reading newspaper websites. So I purchased Link2SD Pro and moved as many things as possible to the internal SD card. This also allows you to set some system programs as user programs, which then enables you to move them to the SD card as well, which is very useful.
I also did this with google play store and google play services, and that is when it went wrong, as google play store no longer worked. Based on things other people suggested, I tried various things like clearing caches, but that didn't work. I tried to use the browser to go to the play store and update them, but it said things like, "App will be installed later" - but which never happened. I tried to download google play services and play store APK's from a repository and after deleting the originals I installed them from the APKs. It nearly worked - it got to checking permissions, but instead of starting the download progress bar it said, "Unfortunately google play store has stopped", or words to that effect. Based on one suggestion I tried clearing the data for services and google services framework, and then it wouldn't even connect to the store at all.
So I saved important things and then did a factory reset, under the naive impression that it would restore it to how it had arrived. I discovered that it only clears user data and programs, and does not restore system apps that you've stupidly deleted. Having reinstalled the play services and play store from the downloaded APK's it still wouldn't actually download anything as it failed at the progress bar stage with the same message as before - "Unfortunately google play has stopped".
The other thing is that after doing a complete reset the keyboard became chinese, and having to use the old 'Nokia' way of entering English using a numeric keypad is a nuisance. So I'm keen to be able to restore the Play store function so I can at least download a better keyboard.
I've tried to download the gapps file, saving it on an external SD card and installing it on its own as suggested by one person, even going to the Pico version and each time I get "E: Error in /tmp/sideload / package.zip (status error 255)", which apparently means not enough memory according to one person.
I have looked for a custom ROM to install from scratch, but there don't appear to be any for this model. I considered reinstalling the original ROM I downloaded (exdroid4.4.2_r2-a33-v2.0) but I haven't found a mid-756 driver file so my understanding is that it is highly likely to fail.
I can't now reinstall the Link2SD app in order to set the play-related apps back to system apps again either, even though I tried uninstalling and then reinstalling on my rooted phone in order to get the .APK files and then transfer them across to the tablet. It appeared that the .APK files were automatically deleted from both the app and the Pro licence app.
I'm feeling I've right royally screwed my tablet. I know it wasn't that expensive, but it is pretty useful with the massive battery so I'd really appreciate any pointers to help fix it. I've read the suggested threads but as I can't find a driver file for this device, reinstalling the whole ROM from scratch doesn't seem like a good idea. Is it safe to clear the Dalvik cache and reinstall a whole gapps package though? I'm cautious because so far clearing other caches does not seem to have improved anything and in one case made it worse.
Very grateful for any help received!
Mike
Ok, didn't get any help but finally fixed it and people might like to know how I did it:
To recap, the situation was: Rooted MID-756 / F900 tablet, having deleted play store after it stopped working when I made it a non-system app, and after doing a full reset, found that the only keyboard option was a japanese one with Nokia-style input for Western typeface. Complete nuisance to use and with hardly any even standard apps remaining after I'd previously moved them to SD card, which was then wiped when I did full reset. So, close to useless.
Solution: Use another Android 4.2 phone, and for each of the following apps, [ Google play services, play store, Link2SD, Link2SD (new)] do the following steps:
a) in Link2SD, select an app.
b) in the details screen, from the options menu, select 'share apk'. You may need to scroll the menu up if your screen doesn't show it.
c) When the share apk options come up, select 'google drive'
d) go to your PC, and in google drive, change the name to xxxxx.apk . I don't know why the .apk seems to get missed off, but you need to add it back in again.
e) Once you've done all four apps, copy all of them to a micro SD card.
f) Put the micro SD card in your tablet.
g) in a file manager, go to the external SD card, and click on the google play services.apk. This will take you through the install procedure. When it has finished installing, reboot.
h) Do the same with Link2SD and Link2SD(new). Even if it says that the licence won't verify (it will show a red triangle next to the name when the app is open), don't worry. Select google play services, and in the detail screen, from the options menu select 'convert to system app'. Then reboot again.
i) Do the same with Play Store - install apk, reboot, convert to system app using link2SD and reboot again.
f) Open Play Store. You will probably have to go through some account setting up of google play store which should be familiar to you. This time when you get to play store and try downloading or updating something it should work. If it still doesn't, do one more reboot.
You can now restore all your previous apps, including the google keyboard if you've screwed that up by doing a hard reset. You will now be able to use a proper keyboard again.
If Link2SD was not verifying the licence for the paid version, when play store is working again you should find it will now check the licence properly.
The moral of the story: Play store does not work as a user app, it needs to be a system app, so don't try to convert it to a user app in the first place.
coolinventor said:
Ok, didn't get any help but finally fixed it
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Ok so I think you are new to xda and so I want to tell you that you will only get a reply when you post summarized threads.
Posting long posts will not get much attention
You can post small posts and then just elaborate your problem when you get a reply
Remember my advice next time whenever you post
Regards milkyway3
You're correct - Point taken, thanks
coolinventor said:
You're correct - Point taken, thanks
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And ya also remember
Always thank the post using the thanks button whenever you get any help because it is meant for it and these thanks are recorded by the xda community
Regards milkyway3
Doh! I'll get the hang of it eventually