Sorry if this has been up before, tried searching several times through google but havent got a concrete answer yet.
1. When i do a full wipe on my HOS, do i lose root?
2. What are the exact steps of fullwipe? I have read some controversial statements regarding that.(twrp)
Factory 3x, system 3x, both caches 3x has been the most promising answer to me, is this correct or does anyone have a better solution? And what about the order of those?
Thanks in Advance! Cheers.
hunabku said:
1. When i do a full wipe on my HOS, do i lose root?
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Yes, but it's a bit academic:
Root is in your ROM. (In a custom recovery you are always root.) If you wipe your system partition, you have no OS installed at all, and therefor no root.
When you then flash a rooted ROM, you have root again.
Wiping anything will never relock your bootloader or turn S-On.
hunabku said:
2. What are the exact steps of fullwipe? I have read some controversial statements regarding that.(twrp)
Factory 3x, system 3x, both caches 3x has been the most promising answer to me, is this correct or does anyone have a better solution? And what about the order of those?
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When you wipe data, you also wipe dalvik cache, since dalvik cache is on your data partition. (The reverse is not true.)
Factory reset (in the bootloader menu) must be done on a stock recovery, but as far as I know this is only needed when your sdcard partition becomes corrupted.
About the '3x' - thing,
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Sommige mensen zeggen 7, maar dat is een kwestie van geloof, geloof ik. Dat mag je dus zelf weten.
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(Some people say 7, but that's a matter of believe, I believe. So it's up to yourself.)
-Jobo
So on TWRP I should do system and factory only?
EDIT: so i did everything, but after wiping all i noticed my sdcard is not empty still some old files there, is this right?
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hunabku said:
So on TWRP I should do system and factory only?
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Oh that 'factory reset'.. Yes, that wipes the data partition.
hunabku said:
EDIT: so i did everything, but after wiping all i noticed my sdcard is not empty still some old files there, is this right?
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Yes, the 'full wipe' youre doing between ROMs does not wipe the sdcard partition. So as to preserve your music, photos, etc.. If you want, you can wipe your sdcard from recovery or from bootloader. As I said in my previous post, (when I was under the impression that this is what you were talking about) wiping sdcard from bootloader must be done on stock recovery.
Generally, when just switching ROMs you dont need to wipe your sdcard.
-Jobo
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If a install requires a FULL wipe, does that mean a factory reset/ data wipe/ a cache wipe and ext wipe?
if not, how to do a full wipe.
also, if i install a new recovery, does it overwrite my Nadroid backup? and can i still recover a backup if i have a new recovery. WIll the full wipe erase my backup?
thank you for any help!
P.S. i know this is a stupid question, im just new to phone modding.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=507
thank you!
Tigger166 said:
If a install requires a FULL wipe, does that mean a factory reset/ data wipe/ a cache wipe and ext wipe?
if not, how to do a full wipe.
also, if i install a new recovery, does it overwrite my Nadroid backup? and can i still recover a backup if i have a new recovery. WIll the full wipe erase my backup?
thank you for any help!
P.S. i know this is a stupid question, im just new to phone modding.
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since the other guy wouldnt help out. but hes right, should be asked in Q&A section.
back ur sd card up on your computer, including the nanoid backup folder, install recovery, do a fullwipe, mount your phone again and transfer the saved files back to your sd card, you will still be able to use the nanoid backup you have saved on your sd card.
as for what to wipe, im not 100% on it i just wipe all but ext3 usually.
HMS Pinnafore, a donkey, and 400lbs of butter.
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mghtyred said:
HMS Pinnafore, a donkey, and 400lbs of butter.
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LMFAO!!!!!!!
...that's how I did it >_> lol
mghtyred said:
HMS Pinnafore, a donkey, and 400lbs of butter.
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And here I thought speaking parseltongue was needed, guess not, huh?
If I wipe data (factory reset) in recovery, will it also wipe the internal sd card?
ololizoz said:
If I wipe data (factory reset) in recovery, will it also wipe the internal sd card?
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I know one way to find out...
Uhhh make a backup, and then do it...?
ololizoz said:
If I wipe data (factory reset) in recovery, will it also wipe the internal sd card?
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Yes it will
Just tried, it didn't!
ololizoz said:
Just tried, it didn't!
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Well now you know for yourself eh!
In recovery it won't delete it. If you do a true factory reset from within the os though it will definitely do it. Happened to me already.
Recovery just formats the data and system partitions.
Do you have to wipe the sd card on the Nexus S when redoing ROM's ?? the ics ROMs I downloaded installed correctly but on reboot will just sit on google screen. So could this be because the "SD card" needs to be reformatted?? or did i not wipe everything??
Thanks!!
Saneless One said:
In recovery it won't delete it. If you do a true factory reset from within the os though it will definitely do it. Happened to me already.
Recovery just formats the data and system partitions.
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Thanks. I hope this works. I just returned my phone to stock 2.3.7, but my sd card went untouched. Too much garbage from before, so I wanted to clean that out and start new (before I go flashing a rom or anything else). I already saved what I wanted to my pc.
** Took a few minutes, but worked great. ALL clean **
Thanks again.
(this was like cashing out my 401k.. everyone advises against it, but no one says how it's done )
Like a few others said, if you go into recovery mode and wipe it you're good to go. All of your music, backups (from Astro), and whatever else will still be there . I accidentally forgot to backup while flashing a ROM once so I was panicking then I found all of my files still there. You cannot imagine the joy I had, nor my facial expression XD
So I'm familiar with flashing, just not with the tablet. What's the accepted method for flashing from 1ROM to the next? With my phone I generally flashed back to stock using ODIN. Is it OK to simply jump from one ROM to the next?
Thanks guys.
gorealmighty said:
So I'm familiar with flashing, just not with the tablet. What's the accepted method for flashing from 1ROM to the next? With my phone I generally flashed back to stock using ODIN. Is it OK to simply jump from one ROM to the next?
Thanks guys.
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The same method for your phone is generally the best way to do it on a tablet as well. You "can" jump from one to another, but you always run the risk of file pieces getting left behind or random little bugs cropping up and such. For that reason, it's always best to do a full wipe, factory reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache, and then flash the new ROM.
traumbrecher said:
For that reason, it's always best to do a full wipe, factory reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache, and then flash the new ROM.
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Formating /system, /data and /cache is sufficient. Factory reset could compromise your /sdcard and /sd-ext (if any) data, depending on the custom recovery you're using.
traumbrecher said:
The same method for your phone is generally the best way to do it on a tablet as well. You "can" jump from one to another, but you always run the risk of file pieces getting left behind or random little bugs cropping up and such. For that reason, it's always best to do a full wipe, factory reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache, and then flash the new ROM.
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I just want to be clear, im to understand that all I really need to do is a fact data reset, and wipe everything from recovery? if thats all there is to it then freaking sweet. flashing to ODIN and going through the motions gets annoying.
AzureusPT said:
Formating /system, /data and /cache is sufficient. Factory reset could compromise your /sdcard and /sd-ext (if any) data, depending on the custom recovery you're using.
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I have always done this with the express intent to wipe everything clear and reinstall all apps and data fresh once I'm on the new ROM, but this has never messed up my CWM.
gorealmighty said:
I just want to be clear, im to understand that all I really need to do is a fact data reset, and wipe everything from recovery? if thats all there is to it then freaking sweet. flashing to ODIN and going through the motions gets annoying.
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Yeah, I feel your pain. I love my SGSII and my wife has my old Captivate, but the ODIN stuff all the time did get kind of annoying. Luckily ODIN and a homemade jig are a lifesaver if you ever screw anything up though But yes, flashing to a new ROM on the tablet is pretty simple and doesn't have a few of the extra steps you have to do on certain phones. Just back everything up on your PC first, then I generally like to type out a list of all the apps I have on the tablet to redownload afterward, then wipe it all and flash the new ROM, then start downloading stuff from the market again.
Xperia P lt22i
Rooted
Locked bootloader
I'm a noob and yes, I am retarded (You'll know why).
So, I've changed some stuff in my phone:
Status bar, boot and shutdown animation, themes, CWM recovery, xperia Z lockscreen, a custom feature for the camera, and so on.
I didn't do a backup for all those things (I didn't know how, and I still don't), I tought I could wipe data or factory reset my phone and all these thing would be gone and my phone would be totally "factory reseted".
The question is simple, how can I reset COMPLETELY my phone? Is there any method to do it?
(sorry for my english)
CheyTac-12 said:
Xperia P lt22i
Rooted
Locked bootloader
I'm a noob and yes, I am retarded (You'll know why).
So, I've changed some stuff in my phone:
Status bar, boot and shutdown animation, themes, CWM recovery, xperia Z lockscreen, a custom feature for the camera, and so on.
I didn't do a backup for all those things (I didn't know how, and I still don't), I tought I could wipe data or factory reset my phone and all these thing would be gone and my phone would be totally "factory reseted".
The question is simple, how can I reset COMPLETELY my phone? Is there any method to do it?
(sorry for my english)
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just do a full wipe and reflash the rom you are using.
chromium96 said:
just do a full wipe and reflash the rom you are using.
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I have the stock rom right now, how can I reflash it? and what do you mean by full wipe?
CheyTac-12 said:
I have the stock rom right now, how can I reflash it? and what do you mean by full wipe?
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it might me a hassle to find your stock rom, so i would reccommend installing a custom rom. There much better.
Check out your phones dev forum here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1729
Download a rom that you like (read some comments and see if its good), and place it on your sd card
To install a rom you must do a full wipe. To do this boot into recovery and choose: wipe data/factory reset , wipe cache partition, then go to advanced and wipe dalvik cache.
Then choose install zip from sd card, and find the rom you downloaded and install it.
chromium96 said:
it might me a hassle to find your stock rom, so i would reccommend installing a custom rom. There much better.
Check out your phones dev forum here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1729
Download a rom that you like (read some comments and see if its good), and place it on your sd card
To install a rom you must do a full wipe. To do this boot into recovery and choose: wipe data/factory reset , wipe cache partition, then go to advanced and wipe dalvik cache.
Then choose install zip from sd card, and find the rom you downloaded and install it.
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Yes, i also think that it's the way...with one thing to do also , to format /system in /mount and storage.
Thanks, I fixed it.
Glad you did, mate!:laugh:
Does anyone have a zip that will wipe my phone clean so that I can install a new ROM? I have one for my GS3, but I was unable to find one for my One X. Even with a Google search.
Kelton Rivas said:
Does anyone have a zip that will wipe my phone clean so that I can install a new ROM? I have one for my GS3, but I was unable to find one for my One X. Even with a Google search.
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You'll need to find the RUU for the firmware that your phone is currently on. Download the ruu to your computer. Plug in phone and boot into fastboot. Run the ruu on the computer and it will bring your phone back to 100% factory status.
It won't wipe your sdcard though. To get it squeeky clean, you'll need to format the sdcard.
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I think he's talking more along the lines of caulkins format all zip.
Try searching for that. It formats system, data and cache.
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To be clear, you don't "need" any such zip in order to install a custom ROM. Some people believe such "Superwipe" zips are a cleaner way of doing it (and may also be useful if you are experiencing bugs after a ROM flash). But I've never used anything of the sort, and never had any issues.
Just wipe cache and Dalvik, then factory reset in recovery (do not factory reset in bootloader, as this corrupts the SD). Then flash the ROM. No need to format system, as this is done automatically when you flash the ROM.
By that logic, no need to wipe cache or dalvik either since factory reset does that. I find wiping system provides peace of mind and one thing to cross off when troubleshooting buggyness within a Rom.
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Yeah plus I'm sure I've seen ROMs that don't wipe system during the install script. I always wipe system, for peace of mind, seeing as it only takes a second.
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exad said:
By that logic, no need to wipe cache or dalvik either since factory reset does that.
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Not sure, but I don't think that is true. I thought all factory reset did was format the /data partition (delete user data).
Also, wiping cache and Dalvik is completely harmless. They will just rebuild themselves when you reboot. There is literally no reason not to wipe them, in any number of circumstances. Wiping system . . . not so much.
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timmaaa said:
Yeah plus I'm sure I've seen ROMs that don't wipe system during the install script.
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I've seen this on another device, but haven't seen or heard of it on this device. Although, of course I haven't flashed every ROM available.
Sure, it typically doesn't hurt to do wipe system. Although I've seen the all-too-common instance of the n00b randomly wiping things (including system) and then asking "why won't the phone boot" (umm. . .because you wiped the OS). Thus, I normally refrain for recommending to wipe system (at least without making it clear what that actually does).
In any case, my main point is that all the required wipes are available in recovery, and no special wipe "zip" is explicitly needed (although might help in certain instances, as I've already mentioned).
Isn't dalvik kept in /cache or /data?
redpoint73 said:
Not sure, but I don't think that is true. I thought all factory reset did was format the /data partition (delete user data).
Also, wiping cache and Dalvik is completely harmless. They will just rebuild themselves when you reboot. There is literally no reason not to wipe them, in any number of circumstances. Wiping system . . . not so much.
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I'll be honest, I did use one for a while back when I used twrp. While it is kinda pointless, it is a lot faster adding it to the zip install list than going through every wipe/format option.
OT: I feel like I'm the only one using philz touch recovery. Anyone else using it? It's got a lot of nifty features.
jacobas92 said:
Isn't dalvik kept in /cache or /data?
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I had to look it up, but apparently it is on /data. So Factory Reset should in fact wipe it.
I've probably always though of Dalvik as something that should be wiped separately, since you should (at a minimum) wipe cache and Dalvik when doing a "dirty flash". Than I just do it by habit when doing a "clean" flash.
As I already mentioned, most of us will likely agree that there is no harm in wiping things that are going to be wiped anyways "just in case".
As long as you aren't one of these folks that wipes /system, then asks why his OS is gone.