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Xperia ray or HTC Sensation?

Hey all,
I'm looking for a smartphone for my dad. It will be his first smartphone so it doesn't have to be a new flashy top model.
I was thinking about a SE Xperia Ray or an HTC Sensation.
The sensation looks promising to me, but it's almost 200 euro's more expensive... The question is: is it worth it?
Maybe I haven't searched enough and you know a better phone for him?
We are looking for something with these specs:
- At least 5 MP camera
- GPS
- 1 ghz cpu (at least)
- 768 MB RAM
- 8 GB storage
It would be nice if we can keep the costs around €25,- per month.
If you have any ideas, please let me know
Greetings,
Marcoevich

Marcoevich said:
Hey all,
I'm looking for a smartphone for my dad. It will be his first smartphone so it doesn't have to be a new flashy top model.
I was thinking about a SE Xperia Ray or an HTC Sensation.
The sensation looks promising to me, but it's almost 200 euro's more expensive... The question is: is it worth it?
Maybe I haven't searched enough and you know a better phone for him?
We are looking for something with these specs:
- At least 5 MP camera
- GPS
- 1 ghz cpu (at least)
- 768 MB RAM
- 8 GB storage
It would be nice if we can keep the costs around €25,- per month.
If you have any ideas, please let me know
Greetings,
Marcoevich
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I am xperia ray user. keep in mind that xperia ray has a small and narrower display (3.3 inch, 53mm width)
people with big fingers may have a bit difficulty to type in the portrait mode.
htc sensation has a dual core processor compare to single core of xperia ray. that's why the price differs so much.
you can consider other options:
- xperia sola (dual core, 3.7 inch display, 8GB storage, 512MB RAM, 5MP camera, but no front camera)
- samsung galaxy ace 2 (dual core, 3.8 inch display, 4GB storage, 768MB RAM, with front camera)
- nexus s
- galaxy nexus
you can compare the full specs at gsmarena.com

Thx for your explanation man!
We really like the xperia sola. Except for the battery... It's a shame imo that sone put such a bad battery in a such a great phone...
Do you know perhaps, a smartphone with the same specifications as the xperia sola, but with a better bettery?
Thank you very much
Marcoevich

I am the owner of a Xperia ray. HDMI isn't present...

Did I ask if HDMI was present? I only want a phone with the same specs but a better battery as the ray or the sola
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Marcoevich said:
Did I ask if HDMI was present? I only want a phone with the same specs but a better battery as the ray or the sola
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I would recommend something along the lines of a Desire Z or iPhone 4

Marcoevich said:
Hey all,
I'm looking for a smartphone for my dad. It will be his first smartphone so it doesn't have to be a new flashy top model.
I was thinking about a SE Xperia Ray or an HTC Sensation.
The sensation looks promising to me, but it's almost 200 euro's more expensive... The question is: is it worth it?
Maybe I haven't searched enough and you know a better phone for him?
We are looking for something with these specs:
- At least 5 MP camera
- GPS
- 1 ghz cpu (at least)
- 768 MB RAM
- 8 GB storage
It would be nice if we can keep the costs around €25,- per month.
If you have any ideas, please let me know
Greetings,
Marcoevich
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for me,I'm going with ray :laugh:

Most Android phones don‘t have cutting edge battery life. They vary mostly with usage.
Most phones easily run out of juice by the end of a work day.
Seeing the budget issue(200 euros is something which I recommend rather saving) get the Xperia.
You should try out the phones at a local shop though before buying.

ThL W3+ vs UMI X1 vs Jiayu G3

I'm looking to buy a phone, and have settled on the 6577 processor. There are tonnes of phones with this processor, but I'm looking for one with good build+1GB RAM (As opposed to 512MB in most).
After quite a lot of research, these two phones seem to be the most popular: JY G3, ThL W3 dual core (ThL W3+) and UMI X1.
Can I have your views on both these phones. Or any other mtk6577 phone, with 1GB RAM and preferably not a clone. Among the three listed above, JY G3 has the biggest (2750mAh) battery, while the ThL W3+ (2000mAh) and UMI X1 (1750mAh) have significantly smaller batteries. It'll be great if someone can speak of the difference these different batteries will make. I hope to get around 12-14 hours of runtime. Been using an LG Optimus One since more than a year and it still does this with its 1500mAh battery. I don't know how much difference the added dual sim functionality and the much higher resolution (1280x720) will make.
Tbh I like the ThL most among the three.
Looking forward to replies. Thanks!

Only one of three phones is in stock now (tHL W3+) , Jiayu G3 & UMI X1 are still for pre order.
A month ago I look in to article for Jiayu G3 and when I saw the specification I decide to buy it*
But after the whole saga about Jiayu G3 with all delays and quality problems I changed my choice on tHL W3+
Instead lack of Gorilla glass and a little low but still enough power battery,
I think that W3+ is perfect choice.
Also I saw pictures and video clips shooted by Jiayu G3 that look worst.
W3+ camera shoot very good.
Also tHL W3+ have big support in this Russian forum > http://forum.china-iphone.ru/viewforum.php?f=74
Good luck with your choice. :good:

Yes, the ThL is insanely popular at China-iPhone. Thanks for your views!
I placed an order for the ThL yesterday, expect it to be here by Thursday
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I also wait for mine to come in a few days
Hope you get it fast too. :highfive:

That's cool! Excited
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Where did you by it ?
Was it on ebay ?
Regards
Igge

I haven't checked, but I ordered it off AliExpress.
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HAHA My G3 is near at hand!

Please see the sticky at the top of this section for phone decision questions. Thread closed.

[Q] JIAYU

Hey guys , any help would be appreciated.
I'm definitely thinking about buying the JIAYU s3 but I need some help.
1. Are jiayu phones reliable and trustworthy for daily use?
2.Are the cameras good and is the quality of the build good?
3.Are there any legit sites that sell Jiayu phones? Because I was looking at some websites with suggestions but there all not working anymore........
4. How do Jiayu phones live up to other great brands?
The Jiayu s3 that i'm talking about has a 5.5inch ips fhd screen with 2/3gb of ram, a 16gb rom -and the new mtk6752 64bit processor with mali t-760 and scores around 45000 on antutu at a price of 170 dollars.

It probably is my “next" phone, but because I don't own one I can't answer your number 1, and 2 questions. For third there is a web site www.ibuygou.com where I saw it was on stock. Now I have Xiaomi mi2a which is Chinese phone too and I'm completely satisfied. The only thing that bothers me is the processor, especially GPS. But when there are some reviews I would buy it. Price is very nice.

My friend has ever bought a Jiayu G6 smartphone from http://www.pompmall.com/jiayu-g6-mtk6592-octa-core-android-4-2-smartphone-2gb-32gb-5-7-inch.html moths sgo, and she said it is really in high quality especially with the 8MP front and 13.0MP back dual camera specs. But i also prefer to but the new Jiayu S3 mobile, and waiting for the avialable.

1.&2. - Yes
3. http://www.ejiayu.com/en/Store.html
I can not decide what version to buy , 2 or 3 Gb - does it any matter? Do not need NTFC.

Chinese people do not give a source. with a complete set of new firmware will be a problem that's for sure. exception lenovo.
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3 Chinese powerhouses (how to choose?!)

Trying to choose between:
Elephone P8000
UMI IRON
Ecoo E04 Plus
They're all at a very similar price (£100-£150) and the discrepancy between the prices isn't much of a concern to me considering how much cheaper they are than so many phones on the market
The specs are all incredibly similar (octa core, 3gb ram, 13mp camera, 4g, 5.5" display), so really need some help choosing.
Thanks,
Ed

I would look at battery specs. I own a I-Joy Eccooqtium and battery isn't enough for just 1 day, and I am not a hard user... it is the only drawback I find to this phone.

I bought the UMI Iron couple of days ago for $180US. It is expected to be shipped out next week. I haven't read good reviews about Elephone and UMI as a brand has overall ok reviews. No experience with ECCO so can't comment on that.

Keep G Flex 2 H955 or buy Leeco Le 2 PRO?

Hi guys!
My g flex 2 got in a bootloop with 1006 error so I took it to warranty.
I've read on the G4 forums that they replaced or gave their money back cuz LG couldn't fix that error.
So I was wondering....should I buy Leeco Le 2 Pro if I get my money back or just stick with H955?
I know that the Cortex A72s on the Helio x20 are more powerful than SD810,but on the other hand Mali T880MP4 is much weaker than 430.
Also,I've got lucky and my g flex had a good display,without yellow spots,but it heated up like hell when gaming(or using gps) so I had to root and use the custom thermal config file.This issue has been allegedly fixed on 6.0.1(I didn't get to upgrade mine),but they said the same thing for 5.1.1...and now I don't know what to believe.
Besides that,I've seen that the IMX 135 on our g flex is very similar to the IMX 230 on leeco,even though the latter has 21 mpx.
I don't really care about the fingerprint sensor,it is nice to have but it seems more of a gimmick to me,the knock code can do the job as well.
Furthermore,there is 2gb of LPDDR4 on g flex,while leeco has 4gb of LPDDR3.Would that make a noticeable upgrade?(I'm not a real multitasker,I ask in terms of general speed)
So...what do you recommend me? Are the two A72 really worth it or should I keep my g flex?
Sorry for the long post
I'm looking forward to your replies.

@pungasul1
hi i got my self a xiaomi redmi note 3 pro (the s650 version) i just bought it not send yet
i'm giving up on the lg flex 2... no unlocked bootloader not custom roms...
and ugly ass screen p-oled it's very granular on grey spots u see alot of wierd points. it's very ugly.
and dont go for a mediatek.... it works for basic but its nothing special.
go for a xiaomi redmi note 3 pro
the snapdragon 650 is almost as good as the s810 that's in the flex2
redmi note 3 ahd 3gb ram and 32gb storage with sd card support
5.5" full hd. and a 4000mah battery and finger print scanner
the lg flex 2 is okay but 2gb ram and 16gb internal is not that great.
the full hd screen is not the best wierd poled. but people love the curved phone they are al curious. other then that. nothing special.
i still prefer tu use my lg g3 2gb 16gb with a good custom rom. i get more battery then on the flex2, it's my 2nd that just lays at home i use it for all the gta games. i got it for 168 euro new. trying to sell it now... for a bit more.
the xiaomi is 155euro on aliexpress. that's really a steal
im selling the flex 2 it's a fun phone but not that good it's left behind... just let the flex 2 go. let it go let it go

Good luck with warranty. Also MIUI is probably the heaviest android UI ever made, i had mi4c and it was struggling with 3GB RAM. (after boot with 0 apps i had like 500mb free RAM), pretty amazing.. :good:
Audio quality was so bad i sold it within a week, they are using cheap audio chips i had constant buzzing using headphones.
Also Xiaomi is locking bootloaders aswell, you want custom roms for Redmi 3? It's pretty much MIUI or CM.

Sell the LG, but don't buy that phone.

But what other options do I have in this price range??
The G4 is pricier than I can afford and frankly it doesn't impress me with that SD808.
I was thinking about that leeco because the camera is better than in our g flex,and also has manual mode,+4k hdr.
I had a very pleasant experience with my g flex(besides the overheating) but I'm afraid that it will be a dead device by next year(As seen on G Flex 1).Moreover,I don't see it holding it up too much with only 2gb of ram,be it DDR4.
Nexus 5x is not an option because of the lack of internal memory,weaker cpu and weaker camera.
So? Any other ideas? Pros?Cons?

Check Moto X Play, Xperia Z3, Huawei P8, Meizu MX5.

k3lcior said:
Good luck with warranty. Also MIUI is probably the heaviest android UI ever made, i had mi4c and it was struggling with 3GB RAM. (after boot with 0 apps i had like 500mb free RAM), pretty amazing.. :good:
Audio quality was so bad i sold it within a week, they are using cheap audio chips i had constant buzzing using headphones.
Also Xiaomi is locking bootloaders aswell, you want custom roms for Redmi 3? It's pretty much MIUI or CM.
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redmi note 3 has unlocked bootlaoder. but they lock it so aliexpress sellers don't put malware on it. you can unlock it your self in 5min (after asking a unlock code thing)
cm13 aosp aokp mokee rom, and what every
miui is not my favorite. used it a long time ago on my lg optimus 2x.
yeah you need to tweak it. it doesnt use the 3gb ram well. just put the background limit to standard and more thing
warranty? i dont know that word lol sure i bought the flex 2 new from amazon a 168euro but i dont give a fùck a bout warrenty really.
audio seems okay a bit mixed reviews soem say speaker and call volume is to low other see it's good.
dont use earphone use bluetooth for 60% of the time.
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pungasul1 said:
But what other options do I have in this price range??
The G4 is pricier than I can afford and frankly it doesn't impress me with that SD808.
I was thinking about that leeco because the camera is better than in our g flex,and also has manual mode,+4k hdr.
I had a very pleasant experience with my g flex(besides the overheating) but I'm afraid that it will be a dead device by next year(As seen on G Flex 1).Moreover,I don't see it holding it up too much with only 2gb of ram,be it DDR4.
Nexus 5x is not an option because of the lack of internal memory,weaker cpu and weaker camera.
So? Any other ideas? Pros?Cons?
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letv eco1 x800 is also for a cheap price 160euro
but has a s810 also but 4gb ram
but i prefer a phone with custom roms like the xiaomi. (that why i'm giving up on the lg flex2 never could use it as my general phone it's just my 2nd it's not good enough to be for every day use it find it's faster then my lg g3 but yeah the flex 2 with no custom roms killed it really for me)
i really can't recommand any mediatek phones, i dont hate them buy yeah there battery life isn't that great and no optimazation at all like 0... and not custom roms

Unfortunately,in my country(Romania) I can't buy x800 as it cannot be found anywhere.
So the only option remains le 2 pro.I just can't figure it out.
I saw that the the difference between the cameras(back) isn't big at all,but Leeco's UI is indeed much smoother.It is so fast.
To keep it short,the only thing that stops me to buy that phone is the gpu.Mali T880MP4 is so much weaker than 430 and I'm afraid not to affect general usage or gaming(if android is ever getting any nice game)

pungasul1 said:
Unfortunately,in my country(Romania) I can't buy x800 as it cannot be found anywhere.
So the only option remains le 2 pro.I just can't figure it out.
I saw that the the difference between the cameras(back) isn't big at all,but Leeco's UI is indeed much smoother.It is so fast.
To keep it short,the only thing that stops me to buy that phone is the gpu.Mali T880MP4 is so much weaker than 430 and I'm afraid not to affect general usage or gaming(if android is ever getting any nice game)
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you can't buy from aliexpress?
the letv pro 2 it's that great from what i read. camera is a really crap, seems great on paper but videos and picture arent that nice
on youtube some did a review. and both sayed camera isn't that good. after some days of usage.
i dont know i find mediatek bad. i mean i would buy it for parents or older people. like my mom has a doogee f5 with the mtk6753 and it's good for her internet facebook whatapp. but me it's not good enough.
tried a other mediatek also mtk6753 the umi touch. still hate it. and still didn't sell it can't seem to get rid of it. anyway. i love snapdragon and will keep phone with snapdragon (high end phones) cause low end i find mediatek great
anyway i wouldnt recommande keeping the flex 2. so yeah. no other options?

Not really... but if leeco's camera isn't that good then I see no reason to buy it.
And I can buy from aliexpress but I'm concerned about the warranty.Furthermore,it takes like 2 months for the phone to arrive.. so,it is a big NO!
I really like xperia z3+ but in my country it is very expensive..like 400$,compared to 275$ that i spent on the g flex..
Also,marshmallow seems great on the g flex 2 but again once it got updated to 5.1.1 many said that the overheating is gone...but it wasn't the case for me,and I updated from day one.
I am so undecided right now.
Moreover,I just can't wait for the prices to drop..or black friday as I don't have any other smartphone.Currently(until my phone comes out of warranty or I get my money back) I am using a samsung e1200 if you can believe it.

pungasul1 said:
Not really... but if leeco's camera isn't that good then I see no reason to buy it.
And I can buy from aliexpress but I'm concerned about the warranty.Furthermore,it takes like 2 months for the phone to arrive.. so,it is a big NO!
I really like xperia z3+ but in my country it is very expensive..like 400$,compared to 275$ that i spent on the g flex..
Also,marshmallow seems great on the g flex 2 but again once it got updated to 5.1.1 many said that the overheating is gone...but it wasn't the case for me,and I updated from day one.
I am so undecided right now.
Moreover,I just can't wait for the prices to drop..or black friday as I don't have any other smartphone.Currently(until my phone comes out of warranty or I get my money back) I am using a samsung e1200 if you can believe it.
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ahhahahahahaha samsung e1200 ahahh the drug dealer phone
yeah maybe wait for the sale maybe there will be a good phone.
i buy most of my **** of aliexpress. (chinees phones) anyway z3 is also a good phone. maybe htc one m8 or m9? no samsung they are to expensive. lg g4 i guess also bit to expensive.
try to look in phone stores or shops what they have for sale . maybe then try to look on the internet if you can find a cheaper deal

reggiexp said:
ahhahahahahaha samsung e1200 ahahh the drug dealer phone
yeah maybe wait for the sale maybe there will be a good phone.
i buy most of my **** of aliexpress. (chinees phones) anyway z3 is also a good phone. maybe htc one m8 or m9? no samsung they are to expensive. lg g4 i guess also bit to expensive.
try to look in phone stores or shops what they have for sale . maybe then try to look on the internet if you can find a cheaper deal
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))))) the drug dealer phone
Thats a good one))
I may get the opportunity to buy a g4 but i don't know if I should give my 810 for 808.
I know that at the moment there are very few gpu demanding games on android and I don't even play them(I played asphalt 8 for like 4 years but then I dropped it when I realized what a bunch of greedy bastards gameloft is made of).
I am surely going to enjoy g4's camera and even display(tough I might miss the oled) but you know...here comes that pride thing.
Now i've got 810 and adreno 430,my phone is a powerhouse,almighty and I feel so good about that.But with a 418..is just meh.. ok

@pungasul1
I feel you man. But thr flex 2 is abandoned... That's sucks.. The phone is good. But every other phones has custom roms and support.
Anyway. I don't know. Just try some phones in a store.

G4 is a good looking phone and the camera is a beast, a friend of mine has it and i analized the 2 phones pretty intensive. In my opinion the G4 display is better, but for a regular user the oled looks better, i was running antutu, it was testing the 3D and our girlfriends said the flex 2 display looks better... After we ran antutu 5 times, the flex 2 scores was the same as the G4, but installing and opening apps is fastter on flex 2. I don't care to much for updates so the G Flex 2 is ok for me.

Well,its sad but i wouldnt buy G Flex 2 again,but im happy with that phone currently. If i would like to change it,i would go for Mi5 or PRO 6,those are one heck of a phones. Even P9 isnt that bad tho. But if you care for updates,get 5X or 6P,updates are guaranteed to H2 2017,so you will get Android O for sure