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There are two types for $13.99/ea. Both screen protectors are dry installs.
You can choose between front and back protection or just front protection.
http://www.spigen.com/cell-phone/google/nexus-4.html
If I didn't just order from BSE, I'd be all over these. I'll probably get one eventually though.
I will get a bse. It will be here soon after the phone. I will keep the back on and replace the screen protector with sgp
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Try amazon.com and it seems to be in stock 11/13/12
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A292TDK/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
Should I go with the Ultra Fine or the Ultra Crystal?
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Nice. I'm waiting for their bumper cases. If they don't come out before Dec, I'd have to buy them in China. Surprisingly, it's not cheap over there, which means I'm paying more.
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Should I go with the Ultra Fine or the Ultra Crystal?
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That's your call. I tried a Ultra Fine on my One X but because it didn't totally cover the screen I didn't like it. It was too visible, you could instantly tell I had a screen protector on it. I haven't tried UC, but I'm wary of it because I hate finger prints. I may just try UF again and hope that it fits better on the N4 than it did on the One X.
ann i will stay with non screen protector for now, i think that gg 2 will do the work for me wint no screen protector
Almost preordered one but unsure now due to the curved glass of Nexus 4. From the other screen protector thread, Spigen offers Galaxy S3 screen protectors for curved glass. Not sure if it makes a difference or if the preorder ones for Nexus 4 fit already.
Sent an email to Spigen..
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Almost preordered one but unsure now due to the curved glass of Nexus 4. From the other screen protector thread, Spigen offers Galaxy S3 screen protectors for curved glass. Not sure if it makes a difference or if the preorder ones for Nexus 4 fit already.
Sent an email to Spigen..
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Just pre-ordered the UC screen protector. Not a fan of the anti-glare stuff. I find it makes the screen not as nice afterwards and crystal keeps it awesome.
Someone email them about the back!
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I personally like the Ultra Fine over the Ultra Crystal. Fairs much better under direct sunlight imo
Grrrrrr.....I wish they would have included a back glass protector as well.....
As previously mentioned, we need back protection too. It would be awesome if they release their GLAS-series protectors for the Nexus 4, they're made out of glass
If it follows suit like the SGP for the One X or S3, you need to get a wet application or Curved Cystal to cover the entire screen due to the curved/rounded edges. If you look at the "Screen Protector Type" on the SGP page it does show it as covering just the viewable screen not edge-to-edge and it's noted as "screen protector type".
I use the Ultra Oleophobic on my One X's and it covers just the viewable screen area, so you don't notice it really with the screen on but do when it's off. Since it's not edge-to-edge then you run the risk of scratches outside the screen protector area.
Read the description for the "Curved Crystal" for the S3 and it notes that it is "full display coverage": http://www.spigen.com/cell-phone/sa...creen-protector-steinheil-curved-crystal.html . I use the CC on my S3 and it is excellent and really is about as close as edge-to-edge coverage as you could ask for. Almost invisible and feels almost as good as a naked screen.
I prefer the "Crystal" versions as they feel more like glass and are remarkably clear.
Not a fan of this expensive and easily scratched protectors.
Bought an ultra oleophobic one for my Sony Xperia S. Scratched in one week.
According to sgp, the ultra oleophobic one is actually hard to scratch.
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I bought some $6 screen protectors off eBay for $7.00... I'll just wait to see some reviews on which protector I should actually invest in.
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I bought some $6 screen protectors off eBay for $7.00... I'll just wait to see some reviews on which protector I should actually invest in.
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I'm more inclined to get a pouch. Without LCD protector.
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I'm more inclined to get a pouch. Without LCD protector.
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You'll still need to watch out for dust! I'm thinking about going pouch + screen protector. This phone is too attractive for a case, and I never drop my devices.
That's what I'm doing, pouch + screen protector. I'm worried not about my keyes scratching the screen, but sand. Sand is the killer for screens like the Nexus 4.
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i emailed spigen about a back protector and a curved screen protector for the nexus 4.
everyone email them about it!!!!
curved crystal + crystal back = WIN!
i'm still debating bumper or just a wet skin for the edges of the phone.
i'm hoping the bumper is VERY minimalistic.
Hey guys,
Right now I'm using zagg but honestly I really don't like it. It feels too much like plastic and takes away from the touch screen effect. Do you guys have any really good screen premium protectors that feel more like glass?
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Wolfrey said:
Hey guys,
Right now I'm using zagg but honestly I really don't like it. It feels too much like plastic and takes away from the touch screen effect. Do you guys have any really good screen premium protectors that feel more like glass?
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I got an ExtremeGuard front and back and while application for me was hard (I suck at putting these on) it has a great feel. Very smooth and not tacky.
I like the xgear fantom 4. I have one preordered it should ship in a few days. Made of glass so it shouldn't have the plastic feel.
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I got an ExtremeGuard front and back and while application for me was hard (I suck at putting these on) it has a great feel. Very smooth and not tacky.
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Thanks so much. Does it cover the screen OK? And is it wet or dry application?
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I like the xgear fantom 4. I have one preordered it should ship in a few days. Made of glass so it shouldn't have the plastic feel.
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Its made of glass? That's clever. Is it like ridiculously expensive?
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It's 30usd http://www.xgearlive.com/products/android/lg/fantom-4
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Love the BestSkinsEver for the Nexus 4. Wet install but incredibly smooth with almost no orange peel.
Of course the installation is everything. You can have the world's best/worst screen protector depending on how you install it.
http://www.bestskinsever.com/google-nexus-4-skin
I bought Skinomi skin...and failed too bad on the front.
For some reason, the BLACK Skinomi towel spread black particles and some of there are now between my screen and the protector
Also...is superfluous me some up and some down. Is taller than N4....
Now i bought 3 extremeguard from eBay...but i think it will be the same ****...(i hope no).
I want the "Basic and Rigid" 100% Clear, cheap cover....that i had on my S3...."Screen Guard" was called.
1 or 2 "mm" smaller than the S3 just to have a little more chance to install it without excess.
Really appreciate the responses everyone. I will try one of those out for sure
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I have xtremeguard in the front and back. The cut outs are good, but the covers are two to three millimeters too short along the width of the phone. The covers are wet application type which means that they have a bit of a rubber feel. The one thing that I don't like about this cover is that they eventually peel along the edges.
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Wolfrey said:
Hey guys,
Right now I'm using zagg but honestly I really don't like it. It feels too much like plastic and takes away from the touch screen effect. Do you guys have any really good screen premium protectors that feel more like glass?
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Most glass like are dry application, hard protectors like SGP, Clearview, realook, etc.
Bestskinsever case optimized screen protector with back protector also. IMHO
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It's 30usd http://www.xgearlive.com/products/android/lg/fantom-4
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Wow, this one should feel great ..
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It depends on what you are looking for. Screen protectors (good ones) will take the impact of an object and keep it from damaging the glass. I have been a fan of xo skins for a while because they self heal and are one of the few that resist sand. If you go with a glass type or acrylic, they do feel smoother, but you will begin to see scratches and scuffs that don't go away. The wet install ones also fill in existing scratches. The xo ones have the closest to glass feel, but are still the aircraft skin type without orange peel. Just depends on what features are most important to you.
floppyears said:
I have xtremeguard in the front and back. The cut outs are good, but the covers are two to three millimeters too short along the width of the phone. The covers are wet application type which means that they have a bit of a rubber feel. The one thing that I don't like about this cover is that they eventually peel along the edges.
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agreed, I bought the xtrmeguard as well and the size was spot-on, but the screen cover feels too rubber-ish (almost broke my fingers couple times trying to slide ), so I decided to change to regular screen protector; besides, I'm already used to leave my phone away from any sharp objects.
Best screen protector? Any of the SGP protectors of course :victory:
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Best screen protector? Any of the SGP protectors of course :victory:
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What's the difference and which ones better, the ultra crystal dual or just ultra crystal? I want the smoothest and closest feel to the one that comes with the phone..
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What's the difference and which ones better, the ultra crystal dual or just ultra crystal? I want the smoothest and closest feel to the one that comes with the phone..
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The 'dual' part just means front and back.
I've been using an SGP on my N4 from day one (~Dec20) and it's been perfect, comparing to the one that comes with the phone is laughable. The SGP looks and feels just like the bare glass to me. It does attract face oil and fingerprints, but that beats scratches, and it's nothing a quick wipe won't solve.
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The 'dual' part just means front and back.
I've been using an SGP on my N4 from day one (~Dec20) and it's been perfect, comparing to the one that comes with the phone is laughable. The SGP looks and feels just like the bare glass to me. It does attract face oil and fingerprints, but that beats scratches, and it's nothing a quick wipe won't solve.
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Perfect, thank you. I hate protectors because of that rubbery feel but if I would of known this.. Would of had the first day. :/ now I got 2 tiny hairline scratches that I have no idea where it came from. And Im always careful with these. Had my GS2 without one for 2yrs and nothing happen to its screen now this phone since Nov 20th and got these scratches that you can't really see unless you look carefully after wiping the screen :/ but thank you for your input. Will be buying one of these..
Anyone try this kind.. Says its HD wonder how the feel is..
Halo Screen Protector Film High Definition (HD) Clear (Invisible) for LG Google Nexus 4 E960 - Premium Japanese Screen Protectors
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AOK2PT0/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us?ie=UTF8
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The 'dual' part just means front and back.
I've been using an SGP on my N4 from day one (~Dec20) and it's been perfect, comparing to the one that comes with the phone is laughable. The SGP looks and feels just like the bare glass to me. It does attract face oil and fingerprints, but that beats scratches, and it's nothing a quick wipe won't solve.
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Does the spg kind come with a lifetime warranty against scratches?
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I used SGP on my Galaxy S2. It works pretty nice, feels great. My only complaints were it attracts fingerprints like crazy, and a year later my screen protector has some minor scratches on it (not really visible when the screen is on). It happens since the hardness is only 4H and stuff like sand is a lot tougher than that. But I'm just glad its only the screen protector and my actual screen.
I had the Rearth Ringbo Screen protector on my Nexus 7. They fit really nice and look great. Feels fine, though the only OCD issue I have with it is when the screen is off, the screen protector displays almost like an orange peel effect (probably anti-UV coating or something). It does a better job of reducing fingerprints but its no where as bad as the SGP ones.
If I had to pick to get one for my Nexus 4... I'm leaning towards SGP again.
I have a massive question guys. I would like to buy one of these tempered glass protectors from spigen. The TR has round edges but is 0.4mm thick and the T has sharp edges but is 0.23mm. Has anyone had any experience with these and what are your thoughts?
Which one should I buy. Also the TR is 5 pounds more.
Thoughts?
absolutnick said:
I have a massive question guys. I would like to buy one of these tempered glass protectors from spigen. The TR has round edges but is 0.4mm thick and the T has sharp edges but is 0.23mm. Has anyone had any experience with these and what are your thoughts?
Which one should I buy. Also the TR is 5 pounds more.
Thoughts?
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If you are going to use your device naked definitely go with the TR. If you're going to have case on it the T should do just fine. I opted for the Glas.tr myself. I have my phone in a case at work and naked at home. You won't be disappointed with either.
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Is it because of the sharp edges that if I have no case it will be annoying? What is your experience with the TR? Is it thick?
Thanks
I owned the slim t version it's not sharp imo the perfect screen protector. It's only a tad thicker than the plastic screen protectors.
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Is it because of the sharp edges that if I have no case it will be annoying? What is your experience with the TR? Is it thick?
Thanks
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I have heard of chipping issues with the T on other devices when not used with a case. Personally I think that the TR looks better with the rounded edges as well, but again with a case you wouldnt notice a difference but for thickness.
I dont find the TR too thick at all. Air view still works flawlessly with it and it just feels amazing. Is it worth the extra money? To me it was, but for my specific use. YMMV.
I will say I reapplied it about 10 times before I got it perfect and it held up great. Like I said previously, you will not be disappointed in either of them.
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This is one of the reasons why I decided to go with another company from my tempered glass... although I do not have a lot of experience with this type of protection I do know that I want a thin glass that provides protection... I think the sharp edges will leave part of your screen on protected unlike the rounded edges
If I was you and these were my two options I would definitely go with rounded edges
I've also heard that this company does not have the best of customer service
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What is the quality of the screen protector included with the Otterbox Commuter Series? I just ordered a brand new one (half off normal price on eBay), and though I already know that I love the case, I'm curious as to the quality of the screen protector that comes with it. Is there any screen clarity that is lost when it is applied correctly?
I've had the ZAGG Invisible Shield on my phone for a couple of months, and the screen quality on it was awful. It was so pixelated. I just took it off. This phone has such a gorgeous screen that if I can't have a screen protector that doesn't sacrifice the gorgeous HD display, I'd rather have none.
So I guess there's two parts here: is the included screen protector good, and if not, what is a good screen protector that works with the Commuter Series and doesn't sacrifice the screen quality?
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Haven't got one for the gs4 yet but with precious otterbox I end up taking it off.
Since it only go over the screen and not stuck to the screen, it still allowed dirt and small particles to get under it. I ended up having to take the case apart to much to clean the dirt. So I took the screen protector portion off and applied a regular screen protector.
BTW you have s link to this eBay half off deal?
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You want the best screen protector that won't sacrifice quality, you have to start looking at glass screen protectors. They are the best.
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Haven't got one for the gs4 yet but with precious otterbox I end up taking it off.
Since it only go over the screen and not stuck to the screen, it still allowed dirt and small particles to get under it. I ended up having to take the case apart to much to clean the dirt. So I took the screen protector portion off and applied a regular screen protector.
BTW you have s link to this eBay half off deal?
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Just search for "otterbox commuter series galaxy s4" into the eBay search bar. There's tons of cases for much cheaper than the store or website. I was able go get one for $18, half off the official website and $22 less than Best Buy.
BTW, it sounds like you're talking about the defender series.
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Just search for "otterbox commuter series galaxy s4" into the eBay search bar. There's tons of cases for much cheaper than the store or website. I was able go get one for $18, half off the official website and $22 less than Best Buy.
BTW, it sounds like you're talking about the defender series.
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Yes sorry it was the Defender series that I've gotten in the past.
Well I'm 99% sure I got suckered into buying a fake Otterbox. I guess we'll see when it gets here.
I have the commuter and the screen protector that comes with it is pretty junky. It has the rainbow effect. Color streaks that you see far too often. I bought an iloome glass protector and its great! The only thing is they have crappy home buttons, they are cheap plastic or used to be. Idk if they changed to aluminum but I got an aluminum home button for a couple bucks and its all good
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I can second that screen protector is junk. Hard to clean, rainbows really bad. I would recommend the spigen glas.tr nano if you have another 35 to burn. Best screen protector ive ever had.
Are these glass screen protectors easy to install cleanly? Do they leave any bubbles and is the screen still HD crisp? Also, do they fit well with the Commuter Series case? Sorry for all the questions.
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Are these glass screen protectors easy to install cleanly? Do they leave any bubbles and is the screen still HD crisp? Also, do they fit well with the Commuter Series case? Sorry for all the questions.
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They are super easy to install, Judy place on top of a clean screen and press... no bubbles because it is a solid piece of glass. There is a possibility for one large air bubble butt that is an easy fix, just lift up and slowly apply again by setting it back on top and press from the middle out.
It should fit that case but if the glass doesn't go to the edge perfectly or if the glass is too think, then it may not stay on right. Good luck!
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I don't understand how the Zagg screen protectors detract from the screen quality... Yeah, if there are fingerprints on it maybe, but on a clean install I can't even tell there's a screen protector on it. To the original question though, the OB screen protector is terrible. I use the Otterbox defender, but the 1st thing I did was pop the crappy plastic screen protector off of it and put the Zagg protector on the phone. It's not like the Otterbox's screen protector is there to do anything more than prevent scratches to the screen.
I'm not sure it is clearly understood that there is a difference between the Commuter and Defender screen protectors. The Defender's is built in, while the Commuter's is a separate protector that is applied. I want to know the quality of that one.
As for the ZAGG, I've concluded that it's because of the Best Buy install. On lighter colors, the screen looked so ridiculously pixelated. It's an insult to the gorgeous screen that the S4 has.
At this point, I'll probably get a glass protector at some point, unless I love the protector I get with the case.
The iloome glass I have fits great with the commuter case. And its easy to put on. Just have to make sure the screen is clean. The glass stays straight so it very easy to align
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Dont get the defender, the in built screen protector is worse than the separate one that comes with the commuter. It doesn't sit completely flat against the screen and will result in even worse rainbow effects and little pockets of separation that look terrible. Overall as good as the commuter case is i don't think that you would really gain much protection. That said the outside of the defender does feel really nice with the silicon.
As for glass screen protectors mine has been great and was really easy to install. Only thing is once its on, its on for good or at least until you change to a new one.
I think I'm gonna go for the iloome. It's on sale for $25 with free shipping on their website. I've spent a lot of money on protection for this phone, but it's still less than the insurance deductible on a new one.
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Well I'm 99% sure I got suckered into buying a fake Otterbox. I guess we'll see when it gets here.
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I was worried about the same thing, but mine turned out to be authentic (I think). Look for:
Quality of silicone lining - Otterbox uses fairly stiff, yet flexible, silicone in their cases. The fakes usually use flimsy stuff that flops around and offers no protection.
Packaging - website listed on back, otterbox hologram sticker, sku sticker, etc. If the cardboard insert is printed to show a dummy screen, it's probably a fake. All of the otterbox inserts I've seen have been plain black.
A lot of people emphasize where it is made. I'm not too sure about that. I'd rather go by quality issues and obvious errors in design or packaging.
Look on youtube under "fake otterbox" and you'll see plenty of samples.
Good luck!
I must have got a good one, the screen protector that came with my otterbox commuter is just fine. No rainbow effect or anything
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I have a commuter for my evo lte, and the quality is decent, but I can tell that it's on there if that makes sense.
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I think I'm gonna go for the iloome. It's on sale for $25 with free shipping on their website. I've spent a lot of money on protection for this phone, but it's still less than the insurance deductible on a new one.
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Its great glass but the home button is crap Imo. I got the mime aluminum home button $2.50 and free shipping if you use the code on top of the website. http://mimeusa.com/product/aluminum-home-button-for-galaxy-s4/
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Just an update: I got my case in an awesome green yesterday. Pretty sure it's real, and it's wonderful. The screen protector is horrible, but I knew that going in. I'll probably get around to buying an iLoome screen protector one of these days. For what I paid, I'm pretty happy.
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Since the case thread was doing well, I thought I would start one about screen protectors.
Right now, I am using the iCarez tempered glass screen protector. I really like this thing. I was using just a cheap generic I picked up at the mall, but this is so much nicer.
this: http://www.spigen.com/brands/lg/g3/lg-g3-screen-protector-steinheil.html
came free with my $10 spigen ultra fit case, works great
Long time no see mrhaley30705 lol I love I carez. Very very good quality
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I have the bodygaurdz one from att. It does effect the screen sensitivity
Yeah I'm running the iCarez as well and it's perfect with no problems here.
Currently using the "Tech Armor LG G3 Premium Ballistic Glass Screen Protector" I found on amazon for around 10 bucks. Extremely easy installation and quite the sweet protector. It doesn't affect the sensitivity and you don't even realize it is there.
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I-blason glass user here and loving it. No screen quality issues or touch issues either. Loving it
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mrhaley30705 said:
Since the case thread was doing well, I thought I would start one about screen protectors.
Right now, I am using the iCarez tempered glass screen protector. I really like this thing. I was using just a cheap generic I picked up at the mall, but this is so much nicer.
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I have never used a screen protector on any phone with no problems. Just keep it clean with a soft cloth. this phone has an amazing screen. My kids use glass protectors on their phones and my wife has crap (dirt) all over her screen as a protector. I don't know how she uses it like that.
Spigen Glas.tR Nano Slim
Skinomi
Always been a Skinomi fan so using the Skinomi TechSkin™ LG G3 Screen Protector. First time in as many phones that I didn't get hair stuck underneath! Score, haha:victory:
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Spigen Glas.tR Nano Slim
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This one... Me too as well. No complaints at all
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Long time no see mrhaley30705 lol I love I carez. Very very good quality
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Did you get the thinner tempered glass screen protector that is .22mm or is it the normal .33mm?
Normal works with all my cases and goodies
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I think I got the .3mm glass. It fits my Otterbox great, once I punched out the built in one
Hate the built in one lol
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What's cool is the tempered glass in the otterbox looks line it was made that way.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00L619698/ref=redir_mdp_mobile?ref_=pe_385040_30332200_TE_item
iCarez 0.2 mm tempered glass. Super easy to put on and the surface actually feels better than the naked screen.
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I'm using the .3mm iCarez and I'm very impressed. I've never used a glass protector before but I love this one.
I recently received the Bepak Nano anti-blast and I love it so far. Great responsiveness and looks clean. Covers the front camera, exposes sensors and speakers.
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Zagg. Won't use anything else.