[Q] Backup Android ROM from Scratc? - General Questions and Answers

I have a Samsung Discover SCH-R740C that I just got.
I am looking for information on backing up the stock rom using heimdall if possible or odin if necessary.
There is currently no root for this phone and no clockworkmod. So these suggestions won't work.

nexuslite said:
I have a Samsung Discover SCH-R740C that I just got.
I am looking for information on backing up the stock rom using heimdall if possible or odin if necessary.
There is currently no root for this phone and no clockworkmod. So these suggestions won't work.
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Sorry to say this but you're out of luck. Your device must have at least root access in order to make backups with Odin or Heimdall as seen here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1082288, and here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1372455. You could actually make a backup without root access with CWM, by just flashing as directed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33501498&postcount=2, but since you have neither you can't make a backup with just the stock rom by itself.

obscuresword said:
Sorry to say this but you're out of luck. Your device must have at least root access in order to make backups with Odin or Heimdall as seen here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1082288, and here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1372455. You could actually make a backup without root access with CWM, by just flashing as directed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33501498&postcount=2, but since you have neither you can't make a backup with just the stock rom by itself.
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There has to be a way. Somebody is rooting these phones some how. The question then becomes how do you root a phone without a root rom?

nexuslite said:
There has to be a way. Somebody is rooting these phones some how. The question then becomes how do you root a phone without a root rom?
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All root does is give you administrative access to your device. You can gain it by simply from looking at exploits in the stock rom itself (gingerbreak is an example that does this). Also since Android is based off of the Linux Kernel, getting root access involves a very similar process in getting admin permission on Linux itself. Pretty much you're hacking the device.

obscuresword said:
All root does is give you administrative access to your device. You can gain it by simply from looking at exploits in the stock rom itself (gingerbreak is an example that does this). Also since Android is based off of the Linux Kernel, getting root access involves a very similar process in getting admin permission on Linux itself. Pretty much you're hacking the device.
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Are there any tutorials on people hacking other devices in this way to give me a place to start working?

nexuslite said:
Are there any tutorials on people hacking other devices in this way to give me a place to start working?
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Have you tried superoneclick to root your device?
Also I'm not sure if they are. I just know it requires you to know code like C++, Java, and etc.
Edit: It seems that your device does have root
http://www.cricketusers.com/cricket-samsung-galaxy-discover/85587-root.html

obscuresword said:
Have you tried superoneclick to root your device?
Also I'm not sure if they are. I just know it requires you to know code like C++, Java, and etc.
Edit: It seems that your device does have root
http://www.cricketusers.com/cricket-samsung-galaxy-discover/85587-root.html
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Neither of these will allow me to make a stock backup of the rom. If I use a program I have no clue what the program did and it can't be reversed in the rom image.

nexuslite said:
Neither of these will allow me to make a stock backup of the rom. If I use a program I have no clue what the program did and it can't be reversed in the rom image.
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I've been doing some more reading and just as I thought you can't make backups without root whatsoever. Some people made backups of their devices using scripts like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1632376&nocache=1 for example and running it through terminal in Linux or ADB shell (Command Prompt) in Linux. That's about all you can do if you don't have CWM, unless you know how to port it.

Clockworkmod now available
nexuslite said:
I have a Samsung Discover SCH-R740C that I just got.
I am looking for information on backing up the stock rom using heimdall if possible or odin if necessary.
There is currently no root for this phone and no clockworkmod. So these suggestions won't work.
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If you are still looking to create a stock ROM backup I have uploaded a CWM recovery image that you should be able to load with Odin
Also Available is the stock recovery image
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49592253#post49592253

nexuslite said:
I have a Samsung Discover SCH-R740C that I just got.
I am looking for information on backing up the stock rom using heimdall if possible or odin if necessary.
There is currently no root for this phone and no clockworkmod. So these suggestions won't work.
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what i've learned is the following.
to use Cydia Impactor. With Cydia Impactor you can ALWAYS root your phone.. and install a recovery tool...
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ashiekg said:
what i've learned is the following.
to use Cydia Impactor. With Cydia Impactor you can ALWAYS root your phone.. and install a recovery tool...
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and have you seen: http://theunlockr.com/2013/08/16/ho...ery-on-the-samsung-galaxy-discover-sgh-s730m/
Oh crap sorry guys didn't see the date on this thread.. sorry!!

Related

Particular Root Solution

Hi guys,
Is this root solution safe to use on my device?
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-tab-7-0-plus-wifi-gt-p6210-root-63530/
Would it brick it and if so, would there be any way to restore the device?
Thanks
SWFlyerUK said:
Hi guys,
Is this root solution safe to use on my device?
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-tab-7-0-plus-wifi-gt-p6210-root-63530/
Would it brick it and if so, would there be any way to restore the device?
Thanks
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That is the method I used to root mine, there is a thread for it in the development section. This only roots the device and does not put a custom recovery in place, you have to use Gary's method for that. You will also need to install a copy of superuser once you do this and that is available in the market. The device can be restored using Odin which I have not had to use yet so not sure how it works but there is a thread for that in development too.
there is another root package that i create come with superuser and busybox so you dont have to download those manually...
What's the likely hood that it will brick my device?
SWFlyerUK said:
What's the likely hood that it will brick my device?
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Less than a fraction of a percent. All it does is put an su binary file into the system/bin folder.
Device now all rooted and working.
Is it me, or does a device run slower when rooted, I might just be making things up? lol
SWFlyerUK said:
Device now all rooted and working.
Is it me, or does a device run slower when rooted, I might just be making things up? lol
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Its your imagination as all it does is give you administrative privleges and is not an app or program that uses resources.

[Q] New Member of the Club, now Rooting but not flashing

Hi guys since today im a proud owner of a Galaxy Note 10.1 N8000 stock 4.1.2, but now comes the question, is it possible to Root it without flashing anything?
I only need root access to install a few apps, FolderMount, Titanium, Root explorer, etc.
I own too a Galaxy S2 that I rooted by the method of "rooting without flashing unsecure kernel" is it possible to apply the same method to the Note 10.1?
THANKS for any help given.
pedrohell said:
Hi guys since today im a proud owner of a Galaxy Note 10.1 N8000 stock 4.1.2, but now comes the question, is it possible to Root it without flashing anything?
I only need root access to install a few apps, FolderMount, Titanium, Root explorer, etc.
I own too a Galaxy S2 that I rooted by the method of "rooting without flashing unsecure kernel" is it possible to apply the same method to the Note 10.1?
THANKS for any help given.
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Welcome to the club. Take a look at all the sections for the tablet and make sure you read the stickies too.
Method #2 and youl be good to go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831152
I had already read that stickie and if I have correctly read, Method 2 (and the others) involves Odin and flashing something and that is what I dont want.
Isnt there a way to root without flashing?
pedrohell said:
I had already read that stickie and if I have correctly read, Method 2 (and the others) involves Odin and flashing something and that is what I dont want.
Isnt there a way to root without flashing?
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Let me ask you this, why no flashing? As far as I know it's either Odin or flash. You need to get a custom recovery on it in order to root.
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Also with the s2 the recovery and kernel are in one. This is not.
Thanks for your help and time spent helping me, but I think I will pass the root on the Note, I thought there was a more easier/safe method like that on the S2.
Thanks
pedrohell said:
Thanks for your help and time spent helping me, but I think I will pass the root on the Note, I thought there was a more easier/safe method like that on the S2.
Thanks
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No problem, but it don't get any easier than odin or recovery.
pedrohell said:
Thanks for your help and time spent helping me, but I think I will pass the root on the Note, I thought there was a more easier/safe method like that on the S2.
Thanks
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There was an Exynos exploit method but Samsung patched the security hole a few updates ago.
The method in the link that was posted does alter your flash count and that can be correct but you are the owner of the device and if you are not comfortable flashing you tablet I wouldn't.
I have flashed mine and tried a few rom's but I always ended up resetting my flash counter and going back to stock.
Folder mount works great and that was the reason I rooted in the first place but you can store your files on the ext drive and transfer them back and forth manually but I found with my fast wifi I'm better off re-downloading the data along with "Helium - App Sync and Backup" to backup and restore my data and you do not need root, only draw back is that you have to have a computer connection for backup and restore to work.
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Yes, its just a matter of not feeling confortable, and there is also the risk of blocking the camera. (had a similar issue with 4.1.2 on S2 needed to downgrade to 4.0.4).
But it seeems to me a bit odd that to grant root access we need to flash the rom.
I don't think you read that right. You're not flashing a ROM, just a custom recovery through ODIN, then a root app. It's actually very simple. (Any simpler and I would be concerned about rogue app exploits)
Fyi: I'm also new to Samsung devices and bought my tablet this week. Rooted it this morning by following the stickies, but sticking with the stock ROM for now. I'm more than happy with the tablet so far.
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pedrohell said:
Yes, its just a matter of not feeling confortable, and there is also the risk of blocking the camera. (had a similar issue with 4.1.2 on S2 needed to downgrade to 4.0.4).
But it seeems to me a bit odd that to grant root access we need to flash the rom.
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There is no flashing a rom with method 2. You Odin the custom recovery then you have to flash the superuser into the system. You need superuser to get root and Odin is the easiest way.
Trust me we have all been in your shoes about being nervous, I've been doing this a long time and this method is really easy.
You can also use this method - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
It does require ODIN but as has been stated this is the norm. You are not replacing any kernels or flashing another rom, you are just adding the root components. Using this method also leaves stock recovery intact...
If you woory about flash counter then run triangleaway after to reset the flash counter and recoveries....
I found doing this, doing a factory reset from settings then reflashing the Stock rom using Mobile ODIN pro gave me a stock standard, but rooted, rom with all statuses "Official" and 0 flash count....
A lot of work I know but then worthwhile things generally require it...
Ok, I followed the Method 2 made everything like on video, after pressing Power+Volume Up, I entered on STOCK Recovery, not the CWM,even so, I apply the .zip and I get:
MANUAL MODE
--Appling Multi-CSC....
Applied the CSC-code:LUX
Successfully applied multi-CSC.
--Install /sdcard....
Finding update package....
Opening update package....
Verifying update package.....
E:FAILED TO VERIFY WHOLE-FILE SIGNATURE
E:FAILED TO VERIFY WHOLE-FILE SIGNATURE
E:signature verification failed
I also retryed and turned off auto-reboot in Odin before starting the process but I get the same thing, now what should I do?
Its not rootable?
Ok, Its finally rooted, What I had to do,
On Odin unthick auto-reboot, When Odin finished doing its thing, dont shutdown the Tablet but press Power+Volume Up and go directly to CWM recovery and there follow the rest of instructions.
Thanks to everybody that took time to help me, thats why I love this forum.
A BIG THANK YOU.
pedrohell said:
I had already read that stickie and if I have correctly read, Method 2 (and the others) involves Odin and flashing something and that is what I dont want.
Isnt there a way to root without flashing?
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I see that I'm probably too late now to answer the OP.
But maybe others can be interested.
I find that the easiest way to root (without odin and without installing a custom recovery) is Framaroot.
It uses some Exynos exploits, and has been also recently updated by the developer to counteract Samsung's patches.
It may work or it may not work on some devices and with some of the more recent firmware.
In any case giving it a try doesn't cost anything. It's just an app.
If it works the app can also be used to temporarily remove the root.
For me it worked with Firmware N8000XXCLL3 and I know that it works with some more recent fw too.
Furthermore it doesn't change the counter and even the Devices Status remains "Official". Well, actually the devices status may change to "Custom" after few days with the tablet on, but it returns Official after a simple reboot.
pedrohell said:
Ok, Its finally rooted, What I had to do,
On Odin unthick auto-reboot, When Odin finished doing its thing, dont shutdown the Tablet but press Power+Volume Up and go directly to CWM recovery and there follow the rest of instructions.
Thanks to everybody that took time to help me, thats why I love this forum.
A BIG THANK YOU.
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Awesome to hear! I ran into the same thing you did, forgot to go straight to recovery from odin.
Enjoy!
Stuck
Please help..
I get this error when i try to install: View attachment 2066244
What did i do wrong ?
brix696 said:
Please help..
I get this error when i try to install: View attachment 2066244
What did i do wrong ?
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I don't use CWM, but see if there is a signature seeing to turn it off. Also make sure your md5 of the zip is correct.
brix696 said:
Please help..
I get this error when i try to install: View attachment 2066244
What did i do wrong ?
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What were your options on the page right before that? What option did you select to initiate that?
Maybe try using the files from here instead:
http://droidviews.com/2013/root-and...ung-galaxy-note-10-1-n8000-n8010-n8013-n8020/
bigtoysrock said:
I don't use CWM, but see if there is a signature seeing to turn it off. Also make sure your md5 of the zip is correct.
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Where should i look for a signature ? I have downloaded the file 3 times, just to manke sure that i wasen't bad.
Before that, it was the page where i choose "apply update from external storage"
I have tryed the CF, still the same
brix696 said:
Where should i look for a signature ? I have downloaded the file 3 times, just to manke sure that i wasen't bad.
Before that, it was the page where i choose "apply update from external storage"
I have tryed the CF, still the same
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I would use the touch cwm, and what rom are you trying to install?

[Q] Frustrated looking to Root Samsung GT- I5800 Froyo 2.2

Hi
Ok I know this is an old phone but I hope someone can help .
I've been hunting the forums for an easy way to root my Samsung GT-I5800 running Froyo 2.2.
There's lots of advice on the forums but they are old threads and the links they give to the suggested appllications such as :
Superonclick . z4root , etc don't work or the files are currupt.
I have used Superoneclick on a later samsung phone and it mad the job really easy but the version I have won't work with this phone / android version.
Maybe is some one has a the z4root files they could upload them , or any other suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks
tetatate said:
Hi
Ok I know this is an old phone but I hope someone can help .
I've been hunting the forums for an easy way to root my Samsung GT-I5800 running Froyo 2.2.
There's lots of advice on the forums but they are old threads and the links they give to the suggested appllications such as :
Superonclick . z4root , etc don't work or the files are currupt.
I have used Superoneclick on a later samsung phone and it mad the job really easy but the version I have won't work with this phone / android version.
Maybe is some one has a the z4root files they could upload them , or any other suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks
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I used superoneclick and it worked grand. Z4root never works
anonymous724 said:
I used superoneclick and it worked grand. Z4root never works
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Hi
Thanks for your response .
I've tried two versions of Superoneclick v1.7.00 and 2.3.3.0 and neither work for me.
I've just tried another tool x8toolbox , this gives an error ".... root not applicable to custom rom ..."
If you have a link to another version of Superoneclick I'll try that ?
Thanks .
tetatate said:
Hi
Thanks for your response .
I've tried two versions of Superoneclick v1.7.00 and 2.3.3.0 and neither work for me.
I've just tried another tool x8toolbox , this gives an error ".... root not applicable to custom rom ..."
If you have a link to another version of Superoneclick I'll try that ?
Thanks .
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Sorry but im using my tab so dont have it. Maybe flash a custom rom using odin as theyll be rooted already
also, z4root may have messed with it. I read somewhere it messes with rooting his phone
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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=362Vr95bwD4&desktop_uri=/watch?v=362Vr95bwD4
try this
Hi
Thanks . I had seen this YouTube video, the links to superoneclick no longer work.
In fact the two links direct form the shortfuse website no longer link to the file.
Well im not sure then. Im pretty sure z4root messes up something, and it may be you need to flash a custom rom in odin. Sorry but I cant try anything myself because I dont have the phone anymore (at least for a while).
tetatate said:
Hi
Thanks . I had seen this YouTube video, the links to superoneclick no longer work.
In fact the two links direct form the shortfuse website no longer link to the file.
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Rather than rooting it is best to install a prerooted custom ROM via odin.
iVinod said:
Rather than rooting it is best to install a prerooted custom ROM via odin.
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Hi
I looked for Odin on the market and it seem that Odin required root , so wouldn't I need root to use it ?
If not can you suggest a suitable custom rom ?
Thanks
tetatate said:
Hi
I looked for Odin on the market and it seem that Odin required root , so wouldn't I need root to use it ?
If not can you suggest a suitable custom rom ?
Thanks
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Odin does not require root. You have to get into download mode with a combination of keys. (May be Mobile Odin requires root, I never used it).
Check this thread for Custom roms. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1234591. I would suggest PuruKisadHybrid custom ROM.
Refer to this thread for how to use odin. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1372414
You need to install samsung drivers first.
Hi
Thanks for the information and links.
I was hoping to be able to root without wiping data but I will consider this method.
The odin tutorial was a bit hard to understand but I'll try watching carefully and it may become clear.
tetatate said:
Hi
Thanks for the information and links.
I was hoping to be able to root without wiping data but I will consider this method.
The odin tutorial was a bit hard to understand but I'll try watching carefully and it may become clear.
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you can root without wiping data. Just search for rooting procedure in the forum. But custom ROM gives lot more features for you than stock one.
PS: Please hit thanks if anybody helps you.
Use this and try again
tetatate said:
Hi
Thanks for your response .
I've tried two versions of Superoneclick v1.7.00 and 2.3.3.0 and neither work for me.
I've just tried another tool x8toolbox , this gives an error ".... root not applicable to custom rom ..."
If you have a link to another version of Superoneclick I'll try that ?
Thanks .
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Hi i had this version of superoneclick 1.7.00 but it worked fine. Make sure u have turned on usb debugging and installed the drivers.Also in case of exploit use rageagainstthecage exploit and not psneuter.
And for drivers consider installing these http://drivers.softpedia.com/get/MOBILES/Samsung/Samsung-Galaxy-S-USB-Driver-for-Windows-x86.shtml
I haven't been able to find a non- data wipe method as varioius versions of superoneclick and other tools aren't working for me on this phone.
Perhaps I'll go down the custom rom route ,
If I can find some good clear instructions .
Thanks for your help.
Thanks for the link.
Unfortunately this one isn't working ether
Generating an excetion which ever exploit option is selected.
I wonder if it is an issue with the phone rather than the tool .
It has allready been hard reset to factory state ?
tetatate said:
Thanks for the link.
Unfortunately this one isn't working ether
Generating an excetion which ever exploit option is selected.
I wonder if it is an issue with the phone rather than the tool .
It has allready been hard reset to factory state ?
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Has the driver been installed? Which OS you are using?
You need to install proper driver before trying to root. For your info, essentially all rooting methods are non-data wipe.
for instructions check this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12451340
iVinod said:
Has the driver been installed? Which OS you are using?
You need to install proper driver before trying to root. For your info, essentially all rooting methods are non-data wipe.
for instructions check this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12451340
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Hi I've installed the Rom you suggested using ODIN.
It's working very nicely.
And , of course it's now rooted
Thanks for your help!
Use a cf root flash a custom recovery like cwm and flash a new Rom
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Max :) said:
Use a cf root flash a custom recovery like cwm and flash a new Rom
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app
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WHAT? This device has no separate recovery partition, neither CF-ROOT Kernel. This is not Galaxy S or S3
z4Root should work on 2.1, for 2.2 the easiest way is to use custom kernel, with it you get custom recovery and via that recovery you can flash some zip with su binary and then get Superuser/SuperSU app. SuperOneClick is buggy with G3.
I've used a ch root so....
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I am may confused .. Lets say it on a different way , a root based on the original samsung software, and from there with odin flash cwm(i ve done it on this way) greetings,
Max
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Z4 Root
Z4 Root can Help you .........

Trying to root.. Nightmare

What an absolute cluster. I am trying to use motochopper, right now I am installing USB drivers.
When I select "browse for software on your computer" it only lets me pick folders, not allowing me to pick the actual file that I need. I can't find a way around this, even placing the file in the folder doesn't help. I attached a picture to help.
Thank you in advance for assisting me with this headache. I have unlocked the device already, need to root it and then have a customer recovery, and eventually get on kitkat because the stock rom on this TF300 is almost unusable.
awmiscool said:
What an absolute cluster. I am trying to use motochopper, right now I am installing USB drivers.
When I select "browse for software on your computer" it only lets me pick folders, not allowing me to pick the actual file that I need. I can't find a way around this, even placing the file in the folder doesn't help. I attached a picture to help.
Thank you in advance for assisting me with this headache. I have unlocked the device already, need to root it and then have a customer recovery, and eventually get on kitkat because the stock rom on this TF300 is almost unusable.
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If you can't find another solution, you can using Framaroot. It runs only on the tablet (no ADB needed) and works on some Android versions.
You can always try Kingo. It worked like a champ on my TF300T and my Note 3.
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awmiscool said:
What an absolute cluster. I am trying to use motochopper, right now I am installing USB drivers.
When I select "browse for software on your computer" it only lets me pick folders, not allowing me to pick the actual file that I need. I can't find a way around this, even placing the file in the folder doesn't help. I attached a picture to help.
Thank you in advance for assisting me with this headache. I have unlocked the device already, need to root it and then have a customer recovery, and eventually get on kitkat because the stock rom on this TF300 is almost unusable.
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I think the best option is to use fastboot to install a custom recovery such as TWRP then root it from the recovery. If you are planning on flashing a custom ROM you will have to do this eventually anyway.
Are you up to date with the latest stock ASUS ROM? Which custom ROM are you going to use if that is your plan?
All questions that will determine the best way to move forward AND which custom recovery to install.
Best of luck.
pastorbob62 said:
I think the best option is to use fastboot to install a custom recovery such as TWRP then root it from the recovery. If you are planning on flashing a custom ROM you will have to do this eventually anyway.
Are you up to date with the latest stock ASUS ROM? Which custom ROM are you going to use if that is your plan?
All questions that will determine the best way to move forward AND which custom recovery to install.
Best of luck.
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For some reason it won't do any OTA updates. I haven't looked too much into roms, sounds like cromni-x or something is what I want. I don't want bleeding edge, I want reliability and smoothness. This is my first tablet I've done this process to, my S3 was easy and my other older phones were even easier. I will look into the methods posted, as well as posting my current tablet info shortly. Thank you very much guys!
Framaroot app says my device won't take the exploit. Kingo says device not connected with both usb debugging enabled and disabled, even though I can see it on my pc and am able to transfer files.
Running 4.1.1 with build number 10.4.2.20, will be on this project all day so by all means please give more advice!
EDIT: I am doing a fresh install of windows 7 in case some of these issues are related to it not being detected correctly. I have had issues with microsd cards and other usb devices before.
Just use kingo root
awmiscool said:
For some reason it won't do any OTA updates. I haven't looked too much into roms, sounds like cromni-x or something is what I want. I don't want bleeding edge, I want reliability and smoothness. This is my first tablet I've done this process to, my S3 was easy and my other older phones were even easier. I will look into the methods posted, as well as posting my current tablet info shortly. Thank you very much guys!
Framaroot app says my device won't take the exploit. Kingo says device not connected with both usb debugging enabled and disabled, even though I can see it on my pc and am able to transfer files.
Running 4.1.1 with build number 10.4.2.20, will be on this project all day so by all means please give more advice!
EDIT: I am doing a fresh install of windows 7 in case some of these issues are related to it not being detected correctly. I have had issues with microsd cards and other usb devices before.
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Once you've unlocked it, it will not do updates via the standard method. You will have to flash via fastboot. Before you flash CROMi-X you will need to flash the stock Asus JB 4.2.1. If I understand correctly, you are not able to connect to your PC in fastboot mode? Are you in the bootloader when you attempt to use fastboot? If that is the case then you probably don't have the correct drivers installed. It has been over a year since I installed everything on my PC so I am a little foggy on where to get all of the correct drivers and software.If I remember correctly I downloaded them from Asus. I believe I downloaded and installed ASUS Pad PC Suite which installed the correct drivers. Then you need fastboot which can be found on several threads including the one I first provided to you.
Just because you are connected as a media device and can transfer files back and forth does not mean you have the right drivers installed and can use fastboot. You are connecting at a totally different level.
What ever you do, be sure you are matching versions of bootloader/recovery/ROM. Don't flash a 4.2.x version recovery onto a 4.1.x version bootloader. This goes double for 4.4.x version ROM's. If you do , you will brick your tablet. Also, I suggest doing an NVflash backup once you have fastboot up and running BEFORE you flash anything custom. It is a long process with many steps but in the long run you will be thankful you did if you should make a mistake and brick your tablet.
If you have questions, ask but do a lot of research first. All of the info you need is on this forum but you need to spend the time reading and becoming familiar before going forward. We have all been where you are at one time and had to do the research. It is time well spent. Having bricked one smart phone because I got in a hurry I am speaking from experience.
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spider623 said:
Just use kingo root
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Did you even read what he wrote???
pastorbob62 said:
Once you've unlocked it, it will not do updates via the standard method. You will have to flash via fastboot. Before you flash CROMi-X you will need to flash the stock Asus JB 4.2.1. If I understand correctly, you are not able to connect to your PC in fastboot mode? Are you in the bootloader when you attempt to use fastboot? If that is the case then you probably don't have the correct drivers installed. It has been over a year since I installed everything on my PC so I am a little foggy on where to get all of the correct drivers and software.If I remember correctly I downloaded them from Asus. I believe I downloaded and installed ASUS Pad PC Suite which installed the correct drivers. Then you need fastboot which can be found on several threads including the one I first provided to you.
Just because you are connected as a media device and can transfer files back and forth does not mean you have the right drivers installed and can use fastboot. You are connecting at a totally different level.
What ever you do, be sure you are matching versions of bootloader/recovery/ROM. Don't flash a 4.2.x version recovery onto a 4.1.x version bootloader. This goes double for 4.4.x version ROM's. If you do , you will brick your tablet. Also, I suggest doing an NVflash backup once you have fastboot up and running BEFORE you flash anything custom. It is a long process with many steps but in the long run you will be thankful you did if you should make a mistake and brick your tablet.
If you have questions, ask but do a lot of research first. All of the info you need is on this forum but you need to spend the time reading and becoming familiar before going forward. We have all been where you are at one time and had to do the research. It is time well spent. Having bricked one smart phone because I got in a hurry I am speaking from experience.
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Did you even read what he wrote???
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yes the problem is windows drivers, many TF can't be even unlocked and the latest kingo downloads the drivers and installs them for him, also starting the asus sync app tricks the pc to see the tablet during the root, that is actually an asus problem
spider623 said:
yes the problem is windows drivers, many TF can't be even unlocked and the latest kingo downloads the drivers and installs them for him, also starting the asus sync app tricks the pc to see the tablet during the root, that is actually an asus problem
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I agree it does appear to be a driver issue. But he stated the following, "Kingo says device not connected with both usb debugging enabled and disabled, even though I can see it on my pc and am able to transfer files." That tells me Kingo didn't install any drivers.
Not sure about the PC being tricked since after I installed the Asus PC sync app the drivers were installed and I was able to uninstall the sync app without losing the drivers. I did a complete nvflash backup, and have installed numerous custom ROM's, from ICS to JB to KK without ever touching Kingo. I've since upgraded to Windows 8 then 8.1 and still am able to do whatever I desire from flashboot and adb, all with the same drivers I originally installed from the Asus PC sync app.
Also, being unlocked and being rooted are two different things entirely. You must be unlocked before you can be rooted but you don't have to be rooted to be unlocked. You can also install a custom recovery or ROM that will take care of rooting once the proper drivers are installed without ever using Kingo, Motochopper or any such app.
Not saying Kingo wouldn't work, but it does seem he has tried that without success.
One clarification to the above post. You do NOT have to be unlocked to root.
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Reilly1812 said:
One clarification to the above post. You do NOT have to be unlocked to root.
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Hmmmm...not sure about that since I unlocked before I even attempted to get root access. But you can't install custom recoveries, or ROM's without being unlocked. In fact you don't have access to fastboot mode without being unlocked.
I am not even sure what the point of rooting is if you don't want to install a custom recovery and ROM. Sure, you can uninstall system apps and free up some space but only to a point. And the performance is still going to be sluggish. Customization for my tablet has kept it fresh and like new, negating the need to buy a new tablet. Performance is on par with anything I would be interested in buying.
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Hmmmm...not sure about that since I unlocked before I even attempted to get root access. But you can't install custom recoveries, or ROM's without being unlocked. In fact you don't have access to fastboot mode without being unlocked.
I am not even sure what the point of rooting is if you don't want to install a custom recovery and ROM. Sure, you can uninstall system apps and free up some space but only to a point. And the performance is still going to be sluggish. Customization for my tablet has kept it fresh and like new, negating the need to buy a new tablet. Performance is on par with anything I would be interested in buying.
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100% sure since I have never unlocked and rooted it with Kingo.
Agree that unlocking required for most everything else.
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Reilly1812 said:
100% sure since I have never unlocked and rooted it with Kingo.
Agree that unlocking required for most everything else.
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Thanks for the info! :good:
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Thanks for the info! :good:
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To answer your earlier question about only rooting...
30+ years in IT, dealing with family, customers and coworkers is more than enough.
Just being able to install ad blockers, apps like Titanium BU and completely debloating the device can be more than enough. This is key when you don't need the hassle of screwing up or bricking your daily driver device(s).
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Reilly1812 said:
To answer your earlier question about only rooting...
30+ years in IT, dealing with family, customers and coworkers is more than enough.
Just being able to install ad blockers, apps like Titanium BU and completely debloating the device can be more than enough. This is key when you don't need the hassle of screwing up or bricking your daily driver device(s).
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I suppose. But if all you do is root and install ad blockers and Titanium BU Root the odds of bricking your device are slim to none, though as sbdags has pointed out, removing the wrong system files with Titanium BU or any root uninstaller can soft brick the device.
Reilly1812 said:
To answer your earlier question about only rooting...
30+ years in IT, dealing with family, customers and coworkers is more than enough.
Just being able to install ad blockers, apps like Titanium BU and completely debloating the device can be more than enough. This is key when you don't need the hassle of screwing up or bricking your daily driver device(s).
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You can softbrick it with TiBu by removing the wrong /system files so do be careful. You would either then have to flash back to stock to repair or unlock it to flash a custom rom. But yes you can achieve some enhancements just by rooting but you can't do much tweaking safely as you have no backup system.

I want to root my pixel 2

I do have experience flashing phones. I don't need help with adb and fastboot.
I am just confused at to what exactly TWRP is? Is that the recovery? What should I flash to my phone?
Either way, I just want to root my phone and install a custom rom to it...but I don't see many or any custom roms except for TWRP...so really just want root above all else
Please tell me what I need to do and in what order...lol.....thank you
ImIntoStuff said:
I do have experience flashing phones. I don't need help with adb and fastboot.
I am just confused at to what exactly TWRP is? Is that the recovery? What should I flash to my phone?
Either way, I just want to root my phone and install a custom rom to it...but I don't see many or any custom roms except for TWRP...so really just want root above all else
Please tell me what I need to do and in what order...lol.....thank you
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TWRP is custom recovery. It's still in beta.
As far as I know, there are no custom roms. 8.1 is too new and they are still working on things.
Root with Magisk. Plenty of how to threads.
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ImIntoStuff said:
I do have experience flashing phones. I don't need help with adb and fastboot.
I am just confused at to what exactly TWRP is? Is that the recovery? What should I flash to my phone?
Either way, I just want to root my phone and install a custom rom to it...but I don't see many or any custom roms except for TWRP...so really just want root above all else
Please tell me what I need to do and in what order...lol.....thank you
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Diesel_Jeremiah said:
TWRP is custom recovery. It's still in beta.
As far as I know, there are no custom roms. 8.1 is too new and they are still working on things.
Root with Magisk. Plenty of how to threads.
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TWRP actually just came out of beta with 12/12 Walleye(12/14 Taimen) build, hopefully there will be some custom roms soon... You can use the Skipsoft Android toolkit to root, unlock, flash twrp etc. Or do it manually following guides here on XDA under development section https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/development, ADB has been updated so make sure to have the latest platform tools.
Currently theres no custom ROMs at all for Pixel 2.
TWRP is a recovery.
Rooting is pretty straight-forward I studied these 2 articles/thread:
http://highonandroid.com/android-smartphones/how-to-root-pixel-2-or-pixel-2-xl-easiest-method/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/how-to/guide-unlock-flash-root-pixel-2-walleye-t3702417
The kind of confusing part is when you want to change custom kernels and update TWRP.
As the recovery, kernel and root stuff all play around in the same partition now.
Read around the forum, since you got experience you will figure it out.
bland.life said:
Currently theres no custom ROMs at all for Pixel 2.
TWRP is a recovery.
Rooting is pretty straight-forward I studied these 2 articles/thread:
http://highonandroid.com/android-smartphones/how-to-root-pixel-2-or-pixel-2-xl-easiest-method/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/how-to/guide-unlock-flash-root-pixel-2-walleye-t3702417
The kind of confusing part is when you want to change custom kernels and update TWRP.
As the recovery, kernel and root stuff all play around in the same partition now.
Read around the forum, since you got experience you will figure it out.
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Ok I have TWRP installed and have it rooted, because root checker confirmed it.
I am currently installing busybox, not even sure why but I think I want it. Anyone want to tell me what it is specifically for? Also the app runs, says installing busybox and just hangs forever. Currently trying to let the smart install do it's thing and not move focus away from the busybox installing page
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Ok I have TWRP installed and have it rooted, because root checker confirmed it.
I am currently installing busybox, not even sure why but I think I want it. Anyone want to tell me what it is specifically for? Also the app runs, says installing busybox and just hangs forever. Currently trying to let the smart install do it's thing and not move focus away from the busybox installing page
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Oh, and android reports a problem with called "Android System - There's an internal problem with your device. Contact your manufacturer for details."
What is causing that to be reported every time I restart?
ImIntoStuff said:
Ok I have TWRP installed and have it rooted, because root checker confirmed it.
I am currently installing busybox, not even sure why but I think I want it. Anyone want to tell me what it is specifically for? Also the app runs, says installing busybox and just hangs forever. Currently trying to let the smart install do it's thing and not move focus away from the busybox installing page
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Oh, and android reports a problem with called "Android System - There's an internal problem with your device. Contact your manufacturer for details."
What is causing that to be reported every time I restart?
ImIntoStuff said:
Oh, and android reports a problem with called "Android System - There's an internal problem with your device. Contact your manufacturer for details."
What is causing that to be reported every time I restart?
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Pretty sure that is the same for everyone according to the reading I've done. I'm looking to do the same with mine. What method did you use? Any snags?
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Tucker204 said:
Pretty sure that is the same for everyone according to the reading I've done. I'm looking to do the same with mine. What method did you use? Any snags?
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Oh..so the android system error always happens? Ok..it does not seem to affect anything.
I used the Skipsoft package, which does all the things. Couple snags, it only wanted to accept the beta of magisk.
I'm thinking I got it all right now. I will report back if I find a problem
Tucker204 said:
Pretty sure that is the same for everyone according to the reading I've done. I'm looking to do the same with mine. What method did you use? Any snags?
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So rooting your Pixel 2 will invariably trigger this error message on boot, for any user?
Are there other undesirable side effects to rooting your Pixel 2 at the moment?
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