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Downsides to the Skyrocket/AT&T LTE?

Coming from a Nexus One, I just got a Skyrocket yesterday.
While having a dual core and LTE speed is indeed nice, the phone is a f****** brick in comparison to the Nexus One, so I am somewhat regretting my decision and might return it ...
It's easy to see the upsides of the phone (speed, large screen, better built quality than the N1), I also want to know what the downsides are, so I can make an informed decision.
As far as I can tell, I already see these - which I mostly pulled together based on my own experiences and what I read on this forum:
1. Throttling of LTE unlimited data plans (I never had that problem on my N1 - though I did not really use that much data (no video streaming))
2. Uncertain CM7/CM9 support - as far as I can tell there are some unofficial ports under way, but no dev from CM has joined the effort and non of the current devs have officially joined the CM team?
3. F'ing AT&T blocking websites (e.g. justin.tv (not that I ever want to go to this site but I am pissed about being blocked))
4. CIQ BS on the stock software (ok, can be fixed by using a custom ROM but still ...)
5. AT&T might watch LTE usage more closely for tethering? I frequently tethered and never had any issues with the N1 - though I did not really use that much data (no video streaming)
6. Reception issues on the stock software (I am in LA with little LTE, yet the phone ALWAYS connects to LTE and NEVER falls back to 3G giving me really sh** reception)
7. Size: it's a brick, not a phone.
8. Unlocking - my N1 was obviously unlocked and at&t never gave me any problems unlocking before, though I heard they might not unlock the Skyrocket PERIOD.
9. Uncertainty about specs (and whether it supports intl. 3G/UMTS2100)?
I am happy to have people convince me otherwise, but at the moment some of these con's outweigh the pro's (the size con even in a literal sense, hahaha)
Also let me know if you know of any other good (normal sized) phones (ideally with the same specs otherwise) that might come to AT&T (or might be available unlocked). I would probably love this phone if it had a 3.7" screen in the same form factor as the N1.

Who cares lol you came to the wrong placce to complain about the skyrocket. If u dont like it take it back. This thread is useless, and should be closed

silver03wrx said:
Who cares lol you came to the wrong placce to complain about the skyrocket. If u dont like it take it back. This thread is useless, and should be closed
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Your comment is useless. Thank you.

Its not really. We are here because we love the phone and for once its a group that sees a few short comings and we are working as a group to fix them.
You knew the dimensions of the phone when you bought it. For that statement alone...take it back.
Nearly every other complaint you have mentioned has been corrected with development by some very dedicated dev work new and experienced.
In the end only you can make the choice...but when you ask for an opinion be prepared for what you are going to receive good and bad
andTab said:
Your comment is useless. Thank you.
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andTab said:
Coming from a Nexus One, I just got a Skyrocket yesterday.
While having a dual core and LTE speed is indeed nice, the phone is a f****** brick in comparison to the Nexus One, so I am somewhat regretting my decision and might return it ...
It's easy to see the upsides of the phone (speed, large screen, better built quality than the N1), I also want to know what the downsides are, so I can make an informed decision.
As far as I can tell, I already see these - which I mostly pulled together based on my own experiences and what I read on this forum:
1. Throttling of LTE unlimited data plans (I never had that problem on my N1 - though I did not really use that much data (no video streaming))
Some have the issue some dont, dont abuse it and probably wont be throttled.2. Uncertain CM7/CM9 support - as far as I can tell there are some unofficial ports under way, but no dev from CM has joined the effort and non of the current devs have officially joined the CM team?
I think it will be ported, maybe not cm9 but we have started a thread over there and asked them to, but we will see. its just a ROM - if thats your looking for pick something else. 3. F'ing AT&T blocking websites (e.g. justin.tv (not that I ever want to go to this site but I am pissed about being blocked))
4. CIQ BS on the stock software (ok, can be fixed by using a custom ROM but still ...)
i think this was fixed with they dropped 2.3.6 - i have never tried nor found a site that i couldnt get to. if the fix is a Custom Rom and your answer is BUT STILL....then why are you on these forums. Roms are like clothes change them ****s and move on.
5. AT&T might watch LTE usage more closely for tethering? I frequently tethered and never had any issues with the N1 - though I did not really use that much data (no video streaming)
if you dont video stream, i DOUBT you will ever get throttled or sent the little AT&T teathering email.
6. Reception issues on the stock software (I am in LA with little LTE, yet the phone ALWAYS connects to LTE and NEVER falls back to 3G giving me really sh** reception)
i dont have an answer for this, im in a LTE area with NO PROBLEMS
7. Size: it's a brick, not a phone.
u know what they say about little hands
8. Unlocking - my N1 was obviously unlocked and at&t never gave me any problems unlocking before, though I heard they might not unlock the Skyrocket PERIOD.
9. Uncertainty about specs (and whether it supports intl. 3G/UMTS2100)?
I am happy to have people convince me otherwise, but at the moment some of these con's outweigh the pro's (the size con even in a literal sense, hahaha)
Also let me know if you know of any other good (normal sized) phones (ideally with the same specs otherwise) that might come to AT&T (or might be available unlocked). I would probably love this phone if it had a 3.7" screen in the same form factor as the N1.
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those are the only ones i know of....
Good Luck

If you have questions about the device, it's no problem to ask them here. Although, there is a right way to do it. If you have searched and cannot find the answer, then ask. When you do ask, don't come of as a troll like you're bashing the phone and provoking users into defending it. You should know how that is going to end up. Lets keep this thread in the right direction......

andTab said:
Coming from a Nexus One, I just got a Skyrocket yesterday.
While having a dual core and LTE speed is indeed nice, the phone is a f****** brick in comparison to the Nexus One, so I am somewhat regretting my decision and might return it ...
It's easy to see the upsides of the phone (speed, large screen, better built quality than the N1), I also want to know what the downsides are, so I can make an informed decision.
As far as I can tell, I already see these - which I mostly pulled together based on my own experiences and what I read on this forum:
1. Throttling of LTE unlimited data plans (I never had that problem on my N1 - though I did not really use that much data (no video streaming))
2. Uncertain CM7/CM9 support - as far as I can tell there are some unofficial ports under way, but no dev from CM has joined the effort and non of the current devs have officially joined the CM team?
3. F'ing AT&T blocking websites (e.g. justin.tv (not that I ever want to go to this site but I am pissed about being blocked))
4. CIQ BS on the stock software (ok, can be fixed by using a custom ROM but still ...)
5. AT&T might watch LTE usage more closely for tethering? I frequently tethered and never had any issues with the N1 - though I did not really use that much data (no video streaming)
6. Reception issues on the stock software (I am in LA with little LTE, yet the phone ALWAYS connects to LTE and NEVER falls back to 3G giving me really sh** reception)
7. Size: it's a brick, not a phone.
8. Unlocking - my N1 was obviously unlocked and at&t never gave me any problems unlocking before, though I heard they might not unlock the Skyrocket PERIOD.
9. Uncertainty about specs (and whether it supports intl. 3G/UMTS2100)?
I am happy to have people convince me otherwise, but at the moment some of these con's outweigh the pro's (the size con even in a literal sense, hahaha)
Also let me know if you know of any other good (normal sized) phones (ideally with the same specs otherwise) that might come to AT&T (or might be available unlocked). I would probably love this phone if it had a 3.7" screen in the same form factor as the N1.
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Sounds to us like you've already made your mind up. And the poeple above are right. This IS the skyrocket forum on xda. Were only going to tell you that we love our skyrocket. Which we do. There's not a single phone out there that does not have problems. My biggest problem with every other phone out there is a locked bootloader. Which means it will be even harder for any dev to fix any of the problems you have with any phone you choose. Good luck!
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the2rrell said:
those are the only ones i know of....
Good Luck
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Thank you! That was very helpful.
There are lots of good things about this phone (eg call quality is a hundred times better than on the Nexus One which always sounded like a string/tin-can phone).
I want to know about all the bad things, and what is being done to address them.
Does anyone know whether any current CM devs are considering the phone?
Or whether any current Skyrocket devs might join CM/bring official CM support for this phone?
Not getting CM9 would be a dealbreaker for me.
I only found threads about at&t blocking websites on the new LTE APN - I did not find anything about other ROMs or the new stock software update fixing it. Can you point me to the thread?
Reception issues: do custom ROMs/radios fix this problem for anyone that has experienced this?
Does anyone know whether at&t will unlock the phone (or whether we are stuck having to pay these third party sites to unlock)
European 3G - lot's of sites claim that the phone should work with 3G internationally (2100 UMTS) but has anyone tried (even just roaming on at&t)?
Manufacturers and providers have lied before about phone specs ... need to get this confirmed.

andTab said:
Thank you! That was very helpful.
There are lots of good things about this phone (eg call quality is a hundred times better than on the Nexus One which always sounded like a string/tin-can phone).
I want to know about all the bad things, and what is being done to address them.
Does anyone know whether any current CM devs are considering the phone?
Or whether any current Skyrocket devs might join CM/bring official CM support for this phone?
Not getting CM9 would be a dealbreaker for me.
I only found threads about at&t blocking websites on the new LTE APN - I did not find anything about other ROMs or the new stock software update fixing it. Can you point me to the thread?
Reception issues: do custom ROMs/radios fix this problem for anyone that has experienced this?
Does anyone know whether at&t will unlock the phone (or whether we are stuck having to pay these third party sites to unlock)
European 3G - lot's of sites claim that the phone should work with 3G internationally (2100 UMTS) but has anyone tried (even just roaming on at&t)?
Manufacturers and providers have lied before about phone specs ... need to get this confirmed.
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Simple, google the Qualcomm radio this phone has, then look up the specs on Qualcomm's website.

Longcat14 said:
Simple, google the Qualcomm radio this phone has, then look up the specs on Qualcomm's website.
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That is no answer, since the carrier might have disabled the radio, eg the T-Mobile G2x has quad-band 3G but they disabled the ATT 3G radio when the phone was released.
Someone with the phone needs to test it - since the phone has been out for a while now, I would hope that someone has done so.
Otherwise, we will not know based on some BS specs on some BS website.

only thing I'm worried about is not getting ICS OTA update till late next year and thats really only because I 2nd guess myself over just about everything technology which is halting me from rooting

GeezyF.Ladies said:
only thing I'm worried about is not getting ICS OTA update till late next year and thats really only because I 2nd guess myself over just about everything technology which is halting me from rooting
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as far as rooting Just DO IT!!
and as far as ICS, OTA or not....we WILL have ICS on the this phone due to the devs porting it over. im thinking by maybe Feb we will have something for our phone. or im hoping anyway.

I bet we get ICS even sooner. Also what's this about ATT blocking justin.tv? Plays fine over ATT LTE for me...

Yeah. this phone really sucks. Lets see..
I get 28+hours on my battery..
Large screen with beautiful display
LTE with 40down speeds my comcast cable has 18 down
Good Dev support so far..
I am so sick and tired of hearing this phone is " sub par" etc..
I think I will treat myself to a new Samsung led 1080p hdtv this week...lol
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geezyf.ladies said:
only thing i'm worried about is not getting ics ota update till late next year and thats really only because i 2nd guess myself over just about everything technology which is halting me from rooting
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rooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:d

you might wanna try the regular galaxy s2. pretty much clears up most of the problems... still pretty big but not as big

Just Got My GS3 - Came From Razr Maxx

Sold my Razr Maxx & picked up the S3. I am still blown at how great the screen display is. This thing is beautiful!! I've only had the thing for about 24 hours so far but I gotta say I am impressed with the wireless radio. I've heard some bad reports about it, I think I made a thread asking how it was too.
I work in a building where I am in the basement a lot and for some reason it's hard to get cell service down there. Not just for me, for many people who are on different carriers that have different phones. When I had T-Mobile, it was choppy but I could still send text by moving my phone around. With at&t it was a little better but not by much. Sprint was the biggest joke ever and the reason I went to Verizon. I rocked the Epic 4G Touch with Sprint. Moved to Verizon and got the Razr Maxx, figured better carrier with a Motorola that has a good rep for decent wireless radios. For a while I was always able to pull signal and even catch Wi-Fi here and there in that work area. The Razr Maxx didn't have that great of Wi-Fi range though in my opinion. Far as calling and texting, it was a beast! Internet was a little bit slow down there but I was still able to get on with 4G LTE.
Anyways, so far I've been able to do the same today with my Galaxy S3. I was impressed. Kept 1/2 signals in that fringed area but my text kept sending and coming through just fine. No slow down or anything. Also the GS3 has a better Wi-Fi range over the Razr Maxx. I received an OTA yesterday and just got another today. Did they do any modem/radio upgrades? Or did I just luck out and get a great phone?

Glad to here your loving the S3. As to whether they did any changes, i myself haven't had any signal issues that others have talked about either, so maybe we both got lucky Anyways i highly suggest you root and at least unlock the bootloader and flash an alternate recovery That way you'll never have to worry about the bootloader getting completely locked, and you'll open up a realm of possibilities to do with the S3 once you've got it rooted

Neverendingxsin said:
Glad to here your loving the S3. As to whether they did any changes, i myself haven't had any signal issues that others have talked about either, so maybe we both got lucky Anyways i highly suggest you root and at least unlock the bootloader and flash an alternate recovery That way you'll never have to worry about the bootloader getting completely locked, and you'll open up a realm of possibilities to do with the S3 once you've got it rooted
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A plus 1 here!
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Neverendingxsin said:
Glad to here your loving the S3. As to whether they did any changes, i myself haven't had any signal issues that others have talked about either, so maybe we both got lucky Anyways i highly suggest you root and at least unlock the bootloader and flash an alternate recovery That way you'll never have to worry about the bootloader getting completely locked, and you'll open up a realm of possibilities to do with the S3 once you've got it rooted
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I've rooted and flashed the crap out of my Epic Touch (GS2 on Sprint). Did some on the Razr Maxx too but the roms weren't that good due to the locked boot loaders not the developers, I still got love for you guys!! That didn't allow them to do much in development.
I think I'm gonna rock it on stock for a bit. I'll see if I root. What is the latest news (release date/rumor date) on our GS3 receiving the official OTA for Jelly Bean? Google Now seems sick!

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I've rooted and flashed the crap out of my Epic Touch (GS2 on Sprint). Did some on the Razr Maxx too but the roms weren't that good due to the locked boot loaders not the developers, I still got love for you guys!! That didn't allow them to do much in development.
I think I'm gonna rock it on stock for a bit. I'll see if I root. What is the latest news (release date/rumor date) on our GS3 receiving the official OTA for Jelly Bean? Google Now seems sick!
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Officially the word is "in the coming months" so really not sure when it'll happen, hopefully a leak comes soon, but again not sure. And google now is definitely sick, but the other thing i've really loved about jellybean is the notification bar and how it handles notifications, for some reason its just really nice and slick

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Officially the word is "in the coming months" so really not sure when it'll happen, hopefully a leak comes soon, but again not sure. And google now is definitely sick, but the other thing i've really loved about jellybean is the notification bar and how it handles notifications, for some reason its just really nice and slick
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I hate those words "in the coming months, coming soon, ect ect". Well hopefully it comes before spring. It took pretty much took them a whole year to update the Epic Touch (GS2) to 4.0 ICS from the time the phone came out. That was freaking ridiculous. I'm so glad I left that phone/carrier.

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I hate those words "in the coming months, coming soon, ect ect". Well hopefully it comes before spring. It took pretty much took them a whole year to update the Epic Touch (GS2) to 4.0 ICS from the time the phone came out. That was freaking ridiculous. I'm so glad I left that phone/carrier.
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Its mainly the carrier's fault, i think my next phone will be a pure google phone for sure. I'm just waiting for google to sell one directly so i don't have to buy it through verizon But believe me, pure android 4.1.2 makes the S3 even more amazing.

The Gs3 stock is already the smoothest experience you can get on an android phone in the US currently.
And with 4.1.2, it's even better. Mind boggling! :highfive:

Neverendingxsin said:
Its mainly the carrier's fault, i think my next phone will be a pure google phone for sure. I'm just waiting for google to sell one directly so i don't have to buy it through verizon But believe me, pure android 4.1.2 makes the S3 even more amazing.
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I know. Verizon is great in a lot of ways but they are some punks in a lot of other ways. The only thing that turns me off from pure google phones is that they are not the best in specs. I realize they are not made to be flagship phones and a lot of things can be tweaked to make it great so it doesn't need the best specs but it would still be nice to see a google phone that has a good camera lenses. Anything else like a good processor would be a bonus!

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I know. Verizon is great in a lot of ways but they are some punks in a lot of other ways. The only thing that turns me off from pure google phones is that they are not the best in specs. I realize they are not made to be flagship phones and a lot of things can be tweaked to make it great so it doesn't need the best specs but it would still be nice to see a google phone that has a good camera lenses. Anything else like a good processor would be a bonus!
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Yeah but with the S3 and the developer community behind it, well it might as well be a pure google phone I just hope the next batch of google phones are great hardware wise

Razr maxx hd alternate replacement for gs3

How many of you would take the maxx hd as a replacement for your s3...this is the offer verizon gave me due to poor reception
Sent from a unlocked ad cocked GSIII...........

never in a BILLON years would I take it. unlocked bootloader man, that should be enough of a reason to stay.

I cant send text nessages with 1 or 2 bars of signal...I want a note 2, but I fear that will still be an issue. My htc and motorola phones work flawlessly

magneticzero said:
I cant send text nessages with 1 or 2 bars of signal...I want a note 2, but I fear that will still be an issue. My htc and motorola phones work flawlessly
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Dealing with the same things.. I don't want to go to a phone that has a boot loaded that might NEVER be unlocked... Plus I played with the Max HD and it seem to have lag in areas where my S3 doesn't..

i honestly would consider it, but probably not.
Are u going for it?

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i honestly would consider it, but probably not.
Are u going for it?
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I don't think so.. They look at time device was released to consider it comparison and that's not fair..

Its a no go for me buddy. The locked bootloader is a dealbreaker.
Even if it gets unlocked(maybe it already is). In the past MOTO has tried very hard to prevent custom Roms from being installed (see DroidX & Bionic). Which makes MOTO phones very unattractive to the Devs
If reception is really a problem for you see if they'll let you go with something else, maybe the DROID DNA by HTC.
Conversely, as long a your bootloader is going to be locked you could always give the Iphone5 a go. I know, I know blasphemy, but i'm sure IOS6 is better than MOTO blur.
Please let us know what you decide

Janker5050 said:
How many of you would take the maxx hd as a replacement for your s3...this is the offer verizon gave me due to poor reception
Sent from a unlocked ad cocked GSIII...........
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I would take precisely nothing over the GS3 at this point, there is no better phone out there IMO. I have and still use quite a few different devices (I have to for work).
It is true however that Samsung does get slightly worse reception than some of the other manufacturers. My HTC and Motorola phones got 3G reception in a few areas in which I don't get reception with the GS3 (there are very few of these area's though). To this point, it has caused me no concern whatsoever.
4G reception actually seems to be a bit better on the SG3 though, certainly my speeds are better.

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Its a no go for me buddy. The locked bootloader is a dealbreaker.
Even if it gets unlocked(maybe it already is). In the past MOTO has tried very hard to prevent custom Roms from being installed (see DroidX & Bionic). Which makes MOTO phones very unattractive to the Devs
If reception is really a problem for you see if they'll let you go with something else, maybe the DROID DNA by HTC.
Conversely, as long a your bootloader is going to be locked you could always give the Iphone5 a go. I know, I know blasphemy, but i'm sure IOS6 is better than MOTO blur.
Please let us know what you decide
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"Conversely, as long a your bootloader is going to be locked you could always give the Iphone5 a go." - NOW THIS WAS A PRICELESS STATEMENT!!!

i would not take that offer....here is my experience long story short....i had the s3, wife took it, i used her upgrade and got the hd maxx, returned it and now im on the s3 again...reasons being the camera is absolutely terrible and you loose a lot of screen real estate with those on screen buttons. i was like where is the rest of my screen? Id suggest staying with the s3 and wait for software update or try one of the leaks on here.

That depends on what you want to be able to do with your phone. If you need the reception what choice do you really have? Have them trade you out with a Droid DNA!
What setup are you running now on your S3? Have you tried the jellybean leak radios? They seem to do better at holding signals then the ICS radios. You dont have to be rooted or unlocked to flash a new radio.

Janker5050 said:
How many of you would take the maxx hd as a replacement for your s3...this is the offer verizon gave me due to poor reception
Sent from a unlocked ad cocked GSIII...........
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I would say just replace it with another, working SGS3! Obviously yours is defective. You do not have to change brands, I don't think you will find a better phone than what you already have. You just need a working one! It is not a SGS3 problem, but just your unit.

I odined th k3 leak so im on k3 rpm and modem.... Its better than ics.. But not much... They wouldnt give me a note 2 because they think it will be the same issue.... The dna is to new.. They have cln replacements... So thats why they offered me the maxx hd.... The white one is sexy.. Im gonna let them sh ip it and try it out for a day... If no major improvment it wilbe going back and ill press for a note 2....
Sent from a unlocked and cocked GSIII...........

There is a problem with their radios and samsung and verizon is aware of it.. The best recption i got was on the k3 leak..and im still having constant 4g drops... and my source in verizon devolpment says k3 is the ota.. Im gonna have them ship the white maxx hd try it for a day and if it aint worth it to me. Ill send it back and press the note 2
Sent from a unlocked and cocked GSIII...........

x714x said:
That depends on what you want to be able to do with your phone. If you need the reception what choice do you really have? Have them trade you out with a Droid DNA!
What setup are you running now on your S3? Have you tried the jellybean leak radios? They seem to do better at holding signals then the ICS radios. You dont have to be rooted or unlocked to flash a new radio.
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I would trade it for a DNA as well, but it would be a pain because it has not been out 30 days yet. I know this because of my Droid Razr to S3 swap.
I would not ever get a Razr again due to issues like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDxJoGv3FLA

I wouldn't get the DNA. I had it for a week and took it back. I love the gs3. The DNA is a good device bit the lack of an SD card slot sucks. There are a lot of apps that aren't compatible with it right now but I know that's due to to the screen resolution but I'm not patient enough to sit around and wait for support to be added. The camera quality compared to the gs3 isn't as good in my opinion. The battery life isn't bad but the gs3 is much better and you have the option to at least get a bigger battery if you need it. The on screen menu button drove me crazy although you can fix that problem by unlocking and flashing a custom ROM. All in all i would stick with the galaxy s3 much better phone in my opinion.
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sololhj said:
Its a no go for me buddy. The locked bootloader is a dealbreaker.
Even if it gets unlocked(maybe it already is). In the past MOTO has tried very hard to prevent custom Roms from being installed (see DroidX & Bionic). Which makes MOTO phones very unattractive to the Devs
If reception is really a problem for you see if they'll let you go with something else, maybe the DROID DNA by HTC.
Conversely, as long a your bootloader is going to be locked you could always give the Iphone5 a go. I know, I know blasphemy, but i'm sure IOS6 is better than MOTO blur.
Please let us know what you decide
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Don't think I can agree that ios is better than motoblur... The new blur is as close to aosp as any of the current skinned Os.
That being said the real question is do you even care about unlocked bootloader? Does it really matter to you?
Maxx=better reception(based on moto typical performance in the wireless area) and better battery.
Gs3=more open platform. Camera is better than moto.
There are plenty more but if you don't care about unlocked bootloader and signal is a priority, get the maxx. My wife has a gs3 and works in a terrible signal area. My rezound gets better signal in her area. But she loves her gs3 so much she won't get another phone. No concern for bootloader to her. She loved her old spring gs2.

Janker5050 said:
There is a problem with their radios and samsung and verizon is aware of it.. The best recption i got was on the k3 leak..and im still having constant 4g drops... and my source in verizon devolpment says k3 is the ota.. Im gonna have them ship the white maxx hd try it for a day and if it aint worth it to me. Ill send it back and press the note 2
Sent from a unlocked and cocked GSIII...........
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Well I can give my opinion since I'm on the RAZR maxx HD, the device is well built and cool looking. It is smaller on the screen size but it feels more comfortable for me, my girlfriend had the gs3 and the RAZR feels more better in the hands. Also you can if the battery is conditioned, get 7 hours of on screen time with 4G. That is what I have got your looking at 6-7 hours on screen with 4g and more then a day before the phone needs to be charged. Also the RAZR has a more stock jellybean look instead of being heavily themed like touch wiz. The signal is indeed strong with faster speeds, just have to test for yourself. Hope all goes well with the RAZR and your signal issues get fixed.
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magneticzero said:
I cant send text nessages with 1 or 2 bars of signal...I want a note 2, but I fear that will still be an issue. My htc and motorola phones work flawlessly
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The Note 2 is the best device Samsung has built to date for signal!!! The 3g radio is also far superior to the s3....I have not had one data drop on my Note 2 in areas where I normally would get them on my s3...not to mention I also get 7hrs of screen on time with 45-50hrs of battery life between charges. The s3 is a solid phone and I never had any trouble with signal except when it switched to 3g in fringe coverage areas...

New Moto devices are solid -- locked BL or not. The newest skin IS as close to AOSP as you can get, as said above.
Additionally, the post that read "known radio problems" are just silly to me. People often generalize an entire launch of a device with their issue. My reception is wonderful. I'd say it's more an isolated, local issue with many of you. I've owned about every top tier device of the last year and I can honestly say my S3 is one of the best. My bionic was horrible and some of my Nexi were great. Lol. Plural
Anyways, that wouldn't be a bad replacement IMO, but I'd shoot for a Note 2. That thing is a tank and getting a lot of love.
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[Q] T-Mobile LG Optimus F3 Forum?

Okay, so I know this phone doesn't exactly win the spec war, but it's awesome and would make a fantastic rooted phone. Unfortunately there isn't a forum here on XDA for the device (either because it's too new or there isn't a demand for it)
Do you guys think a forum will be made for this device? It'd be nice to at least have a place to say what root methods DON'T work (I've tried a few)
Thanks for the help, XDA rules!

I second this. I am planning on buying a new phone and after researching numerous phones out there based on my tastes and constraints, I think this phone works very well (another is Samsung Galaxy Exhibit 2). One flaw that I heard is the amount of storage in this phone is around 4gb. Without a way to put apps on an external SD card (which I believe would require a custom ROM), the storage would probably fill up pretty quickly. So it'll be great if XDA opened a forum for this phone.
As a side note if anyone can point to other devices that fit my needs I would be grateful:
- Less than 4.2" screen (preferably 4").
- Android only
I don't have any financial constraints or any favorite companies.
Thanks!

What root method did you find worked? Did you try framaroot? Also have you found any Roms?
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bbradf44 said:
What root method did you find worked? Did you try framaroot? Also have you found any Roms?
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I used Motochopper, worked like a charm. make sure you have the LG Optimus f3 drivers on your computer.(found on LG website)

habitforming said:
I used Motochopper, worked like a charm. make sure you have the LG Optimus f3 drivers on your computer.(found on LG website)
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Ratified. Motochopper worked flawlessly for me as well.

richardpwnsner said:
Ratified. Motochopper worked flawlessly for me as well.[/QUOT
Anyone find a tethering ap that works?
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wolfu11 said:
richardpwnsner said:
Ratified. Motochopper worked flawlessly for me as well.[/QUOT
Anyone find a tethering ap that works?
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Do tethering apps need to be phone specific? I don't have data, but I'll let you know if I come across one.
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Bad news
I have created the recovery tree, and have created a recovery.img for this phone. ok now heres the bad news OUR lg optimus f3 has a stock 3.4 kernel with a locked bootloader. Even worse news is that 3.4 "locking" features a sha5 hash system for its image/partitions (recovery, boot, and bootloader). Even worse news there is no known (or atleast what i know or have heard) way to get around this. The phone will be forever locked until lg updates or allows said lock to be removed. I have flashed the recovery and have had no damage to my device but it just sticks at "unsecure recovery" and does a hard reset (factory restore) every time i try to play with it which is a huge flaw if you ask me.
I have hexedited the bootloader and found that there is indeed "juicy" strings within that may tell to a future unlock these strings being
-Device UnLock!, so Boot Success!!
-oem unlock
-ERROR: Could not do normal boot. Reverting to fastboot mode
Also these strings could just be defualt with all lg bootloaders meaning....there is no hope.
My phone is without a soul and I will never be buy lg again.
If anyone is able to get into fastboot
1. PM ME
2. run : fastboot oem unlock
Again root for this phone works great as long as you dont touch recovery, bootloader, or boot partitions

inyourface09 said:
I have created the recovery tree, and have created a recovery.img for this phone. ok now heres the bad news OUR lg optimus f3 has a stock 3.4 kernel with a locked bootloader. Even worse news is that 3.4 "locking" features a sha5 hash system for its image/partitions (recovery, boot, and bootloader). Even worse news there is no known (or atleast what i know or have heard) way to get around this. The phone will be forever locked until lg updates or allows said lock to be removed. I have flashed the recovery and have had no damage to my device but it just sticks at "unsecure recovery" and does a hard reset (factory restore) every time i try to play with it which is a huge flaw if you ask me.
I have hexedited the bootloader and found that there is indeed "juicy" strings within that may tell to a future unlock these strings being
-Device UnLock!, so Boot Success!!
-oem unlock
-ERROR: Could not do normal boot. Reverting to fastboot mode
Also these strings could just be defualt with all lg bootloaders meaning....there is no hope.
My phone is without a soul and I will never be buy lg again.
If anyone is able to get into fastboot
1. PM ME
2. run : fastboot oem unlock
Again root for this phone works great as long as you dont touch recovery, bootloader, or boot partitions
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Ugh. Thanks for the work. This is bad news indeed. I'll keep poking around and let you know if I find anything.

richardpwnsner said:
Ugh. Thanks for the work. This is bad news indeed. I'll keep poking around and let you know if I find anything.
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Out of curiosity, any chance Loki would work? I'd be willing to give it a go if there's a decent chance—still within the 14 day exchange window .

Will motochopper work on any carrier version of this phone? Thanks!

jjfad said:
Will motochopper work on any carrier version of this phone? Thanks!
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I've seen confirmations on three carriers (can't remember which ones off the top of my head, sorry [edit-well, T-Mobile and Virgin Mobile come to mind now]), so I'd assume the answer is yes. Regardless, I have yet to see anyone complain about adverse affects, so no reason not to try (though, grain of salt—I'm brand new to android).

For anyone that has this, how are the antennas on this phone?
I just ordered one from tmo and am hoping to get better reception at my house than from my Samsung or HTC.
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Steve5400 said:
For anyone that has this, how are the antennas on this phone?
I just ordered one from tmo and am hoping to get better reception at my house than from my Samsung or HTC.
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They seem better and with WIFI calling built in the phone hasn't skipped a beat.

Check my way!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2420178&highlight=rooting+lg+optimus+f3
I failed rooting my phone with Windows system, maybe cause I'm not familiar with the process or I was just to lazy, but it does work if you use motochopper. Try looking it up youtube. You could try my method, it should work on Jellybean 4.1.2!

richardpwnsner said:
Out of curiosity, any chance Loki would work? I'd be willing to give it a go if there's a decent chance—still within the 14 day exchange window .
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BAHAHA me to man i think im down to 10 days. Im trying to get some attention but i need someone who knows little endian, and their way around bootloaders. Id be willing to donate to someone who can help me out, also to support the other 3 variants (if the aboot differs).
I have a recovery created also and a device tree (needs gpio support for kernel).
And to awnser your question, yes loki will work IF i can get the needed values so that when recovery/boot is read into memory that it overwrites the security check feature in aboot. If the wrong values are give you may end up with a brick (very slim chance)

My return window just closed . If it helps, you can pull the open source from LG's website and merge it with the android source. I also discovered an even easier solution: set up the LG Sync application, and select the "upgrade recovery option". Then, when it begins downloading, remove your phone, set Windows (or your relevant OS) to show hidden files and folders, and go the the Program Data folder. There should be something like "PHONEAX" under the LG Electronics folder that will contain the full stock kdz file when the download is complete.
It's really kind of surprising that there's absolutely no dev love out there for the F3. I suppose it's because the phone is entry level, but it's really not that bad but for the storage. I got it as a gift, so no complaints here—of course, if anyone wants to donate a Note or Galaxy gratis, I suppose I'd be willing to switch .

I had a Galaxy S4 from Verizon. I switched to T-Mobile Because believe it or not the network is stronger where I work. Also, there pricing on plans cannot be beat. But, I digress. The Galaxy S4 being a Verizon device never really functioned the way it was supposed to on T-Mobiles network. It was unlocked however was still useless for 4G LTE and while I could do better than edge in some places, those places were few and far between. I started to assess what it is I actually used my phone for these days. I'm not into modding with custom ROMS and kernels anymore and I'm not much of a multi-tasker either so I decided that I did not need the super power device anymore. The specs on this phone are perfect for what I need my phone to do. Its been a long time since I have gone beyond rooting to remove bloat and tether. I agree that the storage on this sucks. I don't understand why there are any devices anymore that come with less than 32gb internal. storage is the cheapest thing that can be added to a device and its not as though it uses much physical space. other than the storage I will say that I am impressed with the quality of this device and I don't know that I would even put this as low as "entry level device." I would say its more of a mid-grade device. I am also happy with the reception on this device and its nice to have a compact phone again that actually fits comfortably in my hand and on my belt.

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I had a Galaxy S4 from Verizon. I switched to T-Mobile Because believe it or not the network is stronger where I work. Also, there pricing on plans cannot be beat. But, I digress. The Galaxy S4 being a Verizon device never really functioned the way it was supposed to on T-Mobiles network. It was unlocked however was still useless for 4G LTE and while I could do better than edge in some places, those places were few and far between. I started to assess what it is I actually used my phone for these days. I'm not into modding with custom ROMS and kernels anymore and I'm not much of a multi-tasker either so I decided that I did not need the super power device anymore. The specs on this phone are perfect for what I need my phone to do. Its been a long time since I have gone beyond rooting to remove bloat and tether. I agree that the storage on this sucks. I don't understand why there are any devices anymore that come with less than 32gb internal. storage is the cheapest thing that can be added to a device and its not as though it uses much physical space. other than the storage I will say that I am impressed with the quality of this device and I don't know that I would even put this as low as "entry level device." I would say its more of a mid-grade device. I am also happy with the reception on this device and its nice to have a compact phone again that actually fits comfortably in my hand and on my belt.
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No argument here. I like it well enough, but I'm (1) a closet geek; and (2) a heavy multitasker, so given the option I'd prefer something with more screen space (I just graduated from law school, so I do a lot of reading on the go). As a phone, however, you really couldn't ask for more—the size otherwise pretty much perfect, it's relatively snappy with most applications, and once debloated the stock launcher is pretty good.
That being said, the second I see a safe way to deal with the bootloader pop up, I'm diving in, no question .

Decided to share my home screens.
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[Q] Droid Ultra/Maxx - Is there a way to root my device and unlock the bootloader?

Hello all!
I am using the Droid Ultra forum because I can't find or there doesn't seem to be one specifically for the Maxx. I assume they are they same phone but one just has a better battery.
I recently bought my new Droid Maxx using an upgrade. When it arrived, I tried using FoxFi for wifi tethering since LTE is faster than my house internet. I found out it won't work since I have the 4.4. To anybody that is curious, 4.4 came with my phone, I didn't use the OTA update.
After looking around on the internet, I am unable to find a guide that can root my phone. Has anybody made a bootstrap?
I am wondering if there is a way to root my phone with the 4.4 kitkat, whether 4.4 root method is still in development, or people have given up on trying to root it.
Something else. I tried to root my device with two programs, each have failed in the process. Kingo and OneClickRoot.

There is no working root for Android 4.4 on the Ultra/MAXX/Mini, you're stuck like everyone else.
There was "a Chinese guy" doing bootloader unlocks for ~$40 in the recent past few weeks but he/she/it has since stopped doing so (probably unable to access Motorola's database anymore or simply got caught doing it, who knows).
So again, you're stuck with stock 4.4 like everyone else is. The info is all over this subforum...

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There is no working root for Android 4.4 on the Ultra/MAXX/Mini, you're stuck like everyone else.
There was "a Chinese guy" doing bootloader unlocks for ~$40 in the recent past few weeks but he/she/it has since stopped doing so (probably unable to access Motorola's database anymore or simply got caught doing it, who knows).
So again, you're stuck with stock 4.4 like everyone else is. The info is all over this subforum...
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Ah, that is quite unfortunate. I just needed to get caught up in the news. Thanks and I hope to see some root hacks soon.

Garret27 said:
Ah, that is quite unfortunate. I just needed to get caught up in the news. Thanks and I hope to see some root hacks soon.
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You could try easy tether pro

I've been thinking. I was reading the forums quite abit recently. The Chinese guy might of had access to the Motorola database with the IMEI or he might have developed a serial-cracker. I remember using keygens to unlock copies of Microsoft Office along time ago. This guy might have done the same but kept it for himself to make a profit. I am wondering if we might see a keygen that uses a person's IMIE.
Just an idea I had.
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So for the sake of getting a more informed is this piece of crap ultra worth keeping in the hope of a root solution in the near future, or is anybody really even working on one?

It's a good phone that could be great (not as great as the MAXX 'cause of that battery life and no wireless charging) - I would say don't hold your breath for an unlock for the bootloader or even root nowadays, it's getting way too tough to root and bootloaders are pretty much... well, locked up I suppose. I don't know of any devs that are seriously working on the Droid devices anymore, it's kind of a crapshoot if you find one I guess.
IF I had gotten either of them before that "Chinese guy" stopped providing the bootloader unlock codes I may have developed a different opinion, but I missed that window of opportunity and so I decided holding onto those phones wasn't feasible given my requirements.
As I said in another post, I did like the MAXX and Mini when I owned them recently, but the fact that I wanted a bit more capability meaning root access because I use some apps that require it as well as the option of potentially using some customized ROM or doing customization that might require something like the Xposed framework means you're dead in the water with the Ultra/MAXX/Mini.
I sold both, picked up a Samsung Galaxy Express for $80 and it's unlocked (for T-Mobile, did that in 2 minutes), rooted and of course running CyanogenMod 11 aka Android 4.4.2 without a single issue so far except the camera FCs often but that's a well known bug that persists and likely will always be problematic (except on those new CyanogenMod phones I suppose since they're designed to run that OS 100% without problems).
The Ultra, the MAXX, and the Mini are damned nice devices if you like "pure stock" and pretty much zero chance of them ever being anything else - the fact that they're GSM unlocked from the factory is a plus, so is the wireless charging for the MAXX and Mini, but that's about it for me and not enough to keep them for the long haul.
Good luck...

Thank you very much for an honest opinion. Fortunately I just signed on with Verizon and received this phone only a couple of days ago and have the option of retuning it and canceling the service with only a minimal restocking fee to deal with. I guess I will have to exercise that option because root access to the device is critical for use at work.

SOSDD said:
Thank you very much for an honest opinion. Fortunately I just signed on with Verizon and received this phone only a couple of days ago and have the option of retuning it and canceling the service with only a minimal restocking fee to deal with. I guess I will have to exercise that option because root access to the device is critical for use at work.
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Exchange for a gs5. It has root. As does the HTC one m8. The m8 looks well built. And the dot view case is sweet.
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