Related
I finally convinced my fiancee to sell her ****ty, 3rd hand, iPhone 4 and get a Nexus S.
Yay, the geek in me rejoiced as I could root, OC, and flash ROMs again. (I stopped on my Desire when I found CM7). We first tried MIUI and she loved the look of it, but it felt rather unstable (lots of freezes and sudden reboots) so I installed the latest CM7 nightly. While this seems a lot more stable and is also faster, my fiance dislikes the fact that much if not all of the interface is black. We tried several themes and launchers but a lot of black still remains, so I would like to be able to make all menus, all pages (especially the settings page) everything be not black. White would be gorgeous for her...
I did search and we tried a lot of themes and launchers but none of theme did a complete "re-skin" of the interface.
Your suggestions please?
Try a different kernel on miui.
Any one in particular you recommend? I tried Franco, netarchy and the default MIUI kernel.
Still this is is not what I asked. We already decided CM7 was the faster and more stable of the two?
The way the menus are displayed on MIUI is only found on MIUI. That's one of the things that differentiate it so much from the other custom ROMs. I must say that the days I tested MIUI, stability and speed wasn't the reason why I ditched it. It ran really stable and fast, too. I tested Brainmaster's, god knows with which kernel
On CM7 you get Theme Chooser. This is the only way you can easily change the look of your phone.
I did a quick search for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1189723
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1302004
If you want to get your hands really dirty, you could always make your own theme, or atleast change some things you really want to see changed.
Greetz
Thanks man, you rock!
Could you point me in the right direction if I were to try making a theme? What do I need? I looked at UOT kitchen but it doesn't seem to be able to do what I'm after.
You're welcome
XDA has an Android Theming section (http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=527), in it, there's a sticky with a lot of information about getting started:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916814
Read through that section though, it has a pletorea of information about theming, many people ask good questions that can be relevant to what you want to accomplish.
It's challenging, but if you have some knowledge of how Android works and some basic computer skills, you can surely get somewhere after a few days of hard work
Greetz
Try different kernels on miui. I use fracos
i have been running on BrainMaster's MIUI for moths now, everything is good , well , except battery life , but it happens to all MIUI , pretty UI requires more battery life , fair enough.
i would suggest you to try BrainMaster's MIUI + franco kernel
zgomot said:
I finally convinced my fiancee to sell her ****ty, 3rd hand, iPhone 4 and get a Nexus S.
Yay, the geek in me rejoiced as I could root, OC, and flash ROMs again. (I stopped on my Desire when I found CM7). We first tried MIUI and she loved the look of it, but it felt rather unstable (lots of freezes and sudden reboots) so I installed the latest CM7 nightly. While this seems a lot more stable and is also faster, my fiance dislikes the fact that much if not all of the interface is black. We tried several themes and launchers but a lot of black still remains, so I would like to be able to make all menus, all pages (especially the settings page) everything be not black. White would be gorgeous for her...
I did search and we tried a lot of themes and launchers but none of theme did a complete "re-skin" of the interface.
Your suggestions please?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I seem to recall (from when I used CM7) that if you install GO EX as your Launcher, you do have a specific full theme called MIUI.
^
I'm pretty sure the Settings page will still be black, just like what @frutelaken mentioned earlier.
suksit said:
^
I'm pretty sure the Settings page will still be black, just like what @frutelaken mentioned earlier.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Could be - as I mentioned I just seem to recall as it is a long time ago - but honestly, for some reason I believe it was white indeed when the MIUI GO theme was applied via GO EX Launcher. Best to do (since it doesnt really involve much nor flashing or anything), download GO Launcher and browse for said theme and try...
zgomot said:
Any one in particular you recommend? I tried Franco, netarchy and the default MIUI kernel.
Still this is is not what I asked. We already decided CM7 was the faster and more stable of the two?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry I can not. I personally can't stand miui so never mixed and matched the various kernels and roms.
For a CM7 rom, I recommend MarkVis's modded version which can be found in the development section. For a kernel, I recommend Peter Alfonso's kernel which can be found on his website.
Sent from my Nexus S using xda premium
I know. I can read. I have read OPs and most posts. I want to know what makes each ROM/port different. Each of them have almost same features and looks. I'm asking comparing CM9 vs Stock vs AOKP vs Slim vs Beam vs etc and cMIUI vs MIUI. I'm not complaining, just want people to share what make them choose one ROM over the other because all are smooth and fast and awesome and so on the same generic descriptions... Let's be honest, most of the has mainly same features, like to mod battery icon, clock, toggles, drawer, theme, lockscreen, some apps here and not there, different bootanimation, etc... you know what I mean. So what is it then? Please, elaborate some answers.
To me, there is a noticeable difference between all mentioned and RemICS and so with AOKPCB but mostly because of the theme/looks and some apps and few features.
I would like to read something else than just "X ROM is fast and smoother" and yes I know everyone is different so they get different experience with their ROM of choice, but what makes you choose a ROM over the other. That's the thing
No trolling allowed and it's not my intention to offend anyone. I appreciate all projects and stuff here, I'm not complaining. Just curious.
U can go to other forum like i9000 and nexus S and ask this question there, too ...they r just for your own choice lol, just flash one u like
Sent from my SGH-T959V using xda premium
chris31jct said:
I know. I can read. I have read OPs and most posts. I want to know what makes each ROM/port different. Each of them have almost same features and looks. I'm asking comparing CM9 vs Stock vs AOKP vs Slim vs Beam vs etc and cMIUI vs MIUI. I'm not complaining, just want people to share what make them choose one ROM over the other because all are smooth and fast and awesome and so on the same generic descriptions... Let's be honest, most of the has mainly same features, like to mod battery icon, clock, toggles, drawer, theme, lockscreen, some apps here and not there, different bootanimation, etc... you know what I mean. So what is it then? Please, elaborate some answers.
To me, there is a noticeable difference between all mentioned and RemICS and so with AOKPCB but mostly because of the theme/looks and some apps and few features.
I would like to read something else than just "X ROM is fast and smoother" and yes I know everyone is different so they get different experience with their ROM of choice, but what makes you choose a ROM over the other. That's the thing
No trolling allowed and it's not my intention to offend anyone. I appreciate all projects and stuff here, I'm not complaining. Just curious.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They basically all come from the same base as far as Android OS goes, and as far as comparing no one can tell you what to choose. I know you are not asking for someone to choose for you, but that kinda is where the question leads. Compare them for yourself. See what you like. They all have their own flavor, mods, tweaks. Some are closer to stock, others are heavily modded. That's your answer in a nutshell. No one is gonna sit down and draw you up a chart of features for each rom.
@dao
I can ask there but that's not my phone and that doesn't answer my question. It's obvious they are there for choice, how to choose then? Why? That's what I would like to read. BTW, thanks for updating RemICS.
@greg
I have used them all. That's why I'm asking.
chris31jct said:
@dao
I can ask there but that's not my phone and that doesn't answer my question. It's obvious they are there for choice, how to choose then? Why? That's what I would like to read. BTW, thanks for updating RemICS.
@greg
I have used them all. That's why I'm asking.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You just have to choose what you like and what works for you. It's that simple. Until Aries is released and we have an updated kernel, they are all about the same, but Aries will fix some issues. Like those blasted capacitive back lights timing out.
Sent from my SGH-T959V using xda premium
What made you choose miui for your phone? Did you try different ROMs before?
@HKSpeed
Oh, I haven't updated that... I'm on CM9 at the moment. My ROMs of choice are Team Acid's. I have been using their work since Froyo so I'm biased. I was on AOKP but battery was a big issue for me, it drained very fast, so I went on CM9 to see how it works since most other ROMs are based on it. Thought it should be more simple, less tweaked. I have tried all, except Linaro and Provision. I like them all but somehow I can't notice difference between them except but a few little things here and there.
I was on MIUI because Dao kept updating it and fast. It was more advanced than other ports/ROMs, then I went on AOKPBC just to see and the theme was too heavy, awesome but not what I was looking for.
I'm not saying I will stay on CM forever, might go on a flashing rampage sometime soon. I know these are WIP that depend on kernel so until then I shall keep experimenting.
I know the others have said pretty much the same thing I am saying, but it comes down to a matter of choice. The ICS roms are all CM9 base if I am not mistaken, so you are dealing with mostly the same issues and bugs on each, so it really comes down to a point of which theme you want and which apps/bloat you want. It becomes a real pain to have to debloat/rebloat a rom and I only ever do so if the theme and layout is custom and really nice but fun to use. If it's basically a stock rom and doesn't have typical apps/bloat/mods/tweaks that I am used to using, I hit the thanks button for the hard work that helps future devs have an easier time and keep looking for a rom that has everything I want. Right now, I am going to be selling my phone soon so I can get a SGS III at least, or maybe wait to see if the rumors are true and T-Mob gets the One X+. I'm drooling over that OC'd Tegra 3 ::fingers-crossed: But, that doesn't mean I won't be trying out different roms at the moment. I love the ICS roms but hate that I can't use calling over wifi. I know there are other options, but they are a bit of trouble with linking google voice among other things, so ICS isn't really for me yet even though it is beautiful. There's my choice...what's yours?
Ive tried to not post but it bothers me when people cant understand a simple question.
Chris31jct is NOT asking for you to convince him. He is asking why did YOU choose a specific rom.
He is also asking for a reason other than the generic responses given 90% of the time.
I started out on aokp then when slimics was released I used it for a while. I wanted to try aokp to see why it was so popular. I like aokp the customization options its a nice rom. I wanted to try slimics just because it doesnt have all the extra apk that aokp and cm9 have that I never use.
Most of the time I will test a rom just to see what the hype is.
3 things decide your choice of a ROM:
Stability
Customization
Battery consumption
In terms of Stability, Usually the higher the customization and options of a ROM, the more conflicts it has( not a rule).
Battery should be the same on all since they use same code and kernel.
Graphic Customization: AOKP is the Best
Settings and options: CM9 is the best
Stability + Battery: I personally prefer SlimRom or Stock cuz it has the most required customization and its very slim( about 80 mb) so probably lighter on your phone.
I wasn't trying to convince him. I know he'll choose whatever rom he wants and that's not for me to decide and/or judge. I was merely stating why most of us choose the roms we choose which is what I interpreted the question to be. The reasons I gave are the reasons I choose the roms I choose. I don't mean to speak for everyone, but that would be the most basic reason to choose a rom other than just to try out what is out there but we ultimately stick with certain roms due to what's included in the rom as well as the stability of it, although as stated before by more than just me, the ICS roms have the same bugs and therefor the same stability issues. Again, not trying to step on anyone's toes, I don't claim to speak for everyone, but I answered the question as I interpreted it.
Also, as to specific roms, I'd be here all day if I chose to speak on that because I started using custom roms on my old G1 and I've tried out probably over 100 roms for various phones over the last few years. For that matter, I could go way back to the days of the Motorola Razor and a few other phones out around the same time, but I was speaking more about android roms. As far as the roms is concerned I don't care if it's miui, ICS, AOKP, etc. If it has the features I'm looking for and is stable, then I use it until something comes around I like better.
I went with AOKP because
It had full source code and I could modify it as I wanted
I liked the layout of toggles
AOKP ROM Control had features I wanted
I could long-press Back to kill a process
It has "quiet hours"
It has decent control of background data use
I knew where the kernel came from and it has full source code
I knew where all binaries came from and it has full source code
I know the last two of these are an absolute requirement under GPL, but many ROM "authors" fail to provide this information.
AOKP has some "crap" that I freeze to improve performance, but I haven't run out of on-phone storage yet.
CyanogenMod 9, for me, wasn't quite as "usable" as AOKP, the way I use my phone.
MIUI is too "Technicolor" and gimmicky for me. Most of what it has (other than a decent File Explorer, when it doesn't crash) I consider "bloat."
SLIM seemed like a good candidate, but without easy access to full source and the ability to build as I desired, it wasn't on my short list. I tried Lightning or whatever its "default" launcher is, but it had a couple things that just didn't allow me to set up my phone the way I wanted (paging is "wonky" to the way I have come to think of a launcher).
Kernel -- Well, Hefe Kernel pretty clearly added what I wanted; better battery life without significant impact in responsiveness. I'm glad others find what works for me helping them out too.
The Zip-n-Go ROMs don't, in general, excite me. I'm not a big theme guy and I can add/remove what I want pretty easily myself.
@krazymonkeys
I understand your point. I also try everything and then stick to one ROM.
@eollie
Thanks bro.
@jeff
That's the best example of kind of answer I was looking for. Thanks!
I'm on Erik's MIUI 2.8.10.
I tried it because I like the UI: I like the notification bar and full screen toggles, I like the kill app back button feature, the task manager combined task killer home button and all the sys apps. It is super fast, lighweight and easy to use. It is stable and gives instant GPS lock.
Only problem is the battery consumption, but it's kernel related I believe.
sent from me
@itzik2sh
I tried MIUI but it is too bright. Don't get me wrong. I like it a lot. But since we don't have Automatic Brightness, then it was a pain. Anyway, it's a great ROM and I think battery didn't drain more than it does on other ROMs. What I love most about MIUI is the phone and text's apps.
I am sorry if this is stupid noob question, but why we don't have many custom roms since that our device's sharing same exynos 4210 hardware, like Samsung galaxy SII?
I own SII for myself and there is every day something new in development thread, and here nothing
My P 6200 is crying for fix WiFi problem and some great custom rom :crying:
spanjeli said:
I am sorry if this is stupid noon question, but why we don't have many custom roms since that our device's sharing same exynos 4210 hardware, like Samsung galaxy SII?
I own SII for myself and there is every day something new in development thread, and here nothing
My P 6200 is crying for fix WiFi problem and some great custom rom :crying:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have been using Android since it was released and have collected various devices. This is just me, there is nothing better than stock rooted and tweaked rom. Just debloat the rom and you will be ok. My P6210 is amazingly fast with NO error or any single issues. I got both apple and Samsung products and my P3113 and my P6210 are my main tab. It is a must for me to go stock rooted and tweaked. Just me.
Cheers
I always asked myself the ssame question too... but it turns out we dont hhave so many devs here and this device wasn't a hit like the S series from samsung. Making custom roms isn't so hard but it needs alot of learning if ur a biggener. I tried making custom roms myself but what else do u need from a custom rom if you already have CM9, cm10, paranoid android and soon to be AOKP? But who knows we might see new stuff I mean I bought this tab before there was even a functional cm9 build and I was thinking of selling it. But it pulled through aand I must say his device is rock solid we just need to nail the wifi issue.
Sent from my GT-P6200 using XDA Premium HD app
ben_2g0 said:
I have been using Android since it was released and have collected various devices. This is just me, there is nothing better than stock rooted and tweaked rom. Just debloat the rom and you will be ok. My P6210 is amazingly fast with NO error or any single issues. I got both apple and Samsung products and my P3113 and my P6210 are my main tab. It is a must for me to go stock rooted and tweaked. Just me.
Cheers
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't have any problems with speed and stability on stock 4.0.4 but wifi issue is bothering me so much I try almost everything, now I m on cm10 and problem is still here...
spanjeli said:
I don't have any problems with speed and stability on stock 4.0.4 but wifi issue is bothering me so much I try almost everything, now I m on cm10 and problem is still here...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had wifi problems as well on stock ics (UK version).
It all disappeared when I flashed the US version, give it a try...
This said, cm, aokp and stuff are nice but not stable enough for my taste yet, I don't like bugs (I am not a very patient character) and for me so far there's nothing like a good home tweaked, rooted and deodexed stock ics rom.
When cm10 is completely stable then I will eagerly flash it, I check xda every day waiting for that day to come
unclefab said:
I had wifi problems as well on stock ics (UK version).
It all disappeared when I flashed the US version, give it a try...
This said, cm, aokp and stuff are nice but not stable enough for my taste yet, I don't like bugs (I am not a very patient character) and for me so far there's nothing like a good home tweaked, rooted and deodexed stock ics rom.
When cm10 is completely stable then I will eagerly flash it, I check xda every day waiting for that day to come
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have actually did a lot of things with the ICS stock rooted but never have wifi issues. Anywhere I go with wifi access, I never have problems or any issues. Would it be router related? With my P3113, its fine but with my YP-G70, there was. I have to install another stock rom to solve it. Otherwise, everything works fine with me. These products are actually very nice IMHO. I'm just waiting for the JB update for my P6210 and P3113, if there will be.
Early in ANdroid the stock ROMs were often terrible and there was a lot of room to make easy improvements. Now the stock ROMs are really quite good and there is not much that can be improved on easily. IF you like a different style you have the CM based ROMs with some UI differences but not much in the way of performance improvements and you lose stability and some hardware features like IR Remote. Even with the Nexus, by the time some individual developer takes the time to customize a ROM, Google has new features out in the stock ROM so its just not worth it to build from scratch.
SO called debloating is mostly a placebo because the new devices like this tab have lots of memory and apps you don;t use aren't doing anything or taking resources.
Curious to know if you have found anything unique and useful in SII development. TO me it seems like all retreads of repackaged stock or CM based stuff with a few different apps from samsung or sony thrown in for good measure.
DigitalMD said:
Early in ANdroid the stock ROMs were often terrible and there was a lot of room to make easy improvements. Now the stock ROMs are really quite good and there is not much that can be improved on easily. IF you like a different style you have the CM based ROMs with some UI differences but not much in the way of performance improvements and you lose stability and some hardware features like IR Remote. Even with the Nexus, by the time some individual developer takes the time to customize a ROM, Google has new features out in the stock ROM so its just not worth it to build from scratch.
SO called debloating is mostly a placebo because the new devices like this tab have lots of memory and apps you don;t use aren't doing anything or taking resources.
Curious to know if you have found anything unique and useful in SII development. TO me it seems like all retreads of repackaged stock or CM based stuff with a few different apps from samsung or sony thrown in for good measure.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Stock rom is full with unneeded application.
Custom rom bring more speed and space.
I'm currently running custom rom based on JB leak on my Samsung SII, which is full with super functions from S3 and Note 2. Above all that rom is great for daily use For me that is enough
So I had CM 10.1 for a good while and decided to try something new song trues Jellybam. Everything works smoothly but my only complaint is my battery life has gone done significantly. So I'm looking for a pretty highly customizable rom that's stable, smooth, and has pretty good battery life. Any suggestions?
I don't really have the time or patience to try out a bunch of roms at the moment so I need some ideas... Thanks
By posting this you will end up doing exactly what you claim to have no time or patience for. The universal fact is that what rom works for one person doesn't always work for everyone else. Also these threads get closed as these can lead to unwanted debates. In the end you are better off trying out the roms yourself to see if it works well with your device but you don't have time for that so good luck in your search.
I'm not looking to go out and try 200 roms and then find out the one I want is the one I didn't try.. I'm just looking for ideas to narrow down my options
Well your op didn't help much as pretty much all of Touchwiz roms are stable so are most AOSP roms. You want customization there are the following:
Bonestock
AOSPA
Chameleon
MOAR
Plasma
AOKP
Pac-Man
Avatar
Goodness
Carbon
Mysterious
Xenon
Vanilla Rootbox
Jellybeer
MIUI
Axis
Hyperdrive
Synergy
Obsessed
Liquidsmooth
See I pretty much mentioned most if not all the roms with high customization options and results may vary in terms of battery life.
Thank you, and sorry I'm fairly new to rooting. Do you have any opinions as to which ones I should try first?
spankamonkey said:
Thank you, and sorry I'm fairly new to rooting. Do you have any opinions as to which ones I should try first?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well you can try Chameleon since it is pretty good rom. When it comes to this section it helps to be specific in your threads as it helps when solving problems also avoid posting suggestion thread as like I said the moderator will close them down.
I got the best life out of Bone Stock or literally the factory 4.1.2. I got the worst battery life out of AOSP ROMs.
I'd say try bone stock, and if that doesnt work try the factory odexed rom - it was the only rom I could get power saving mode to work on.
Sent from my SCH-I605 using xda app-developers app
Also if you are willing and have the money, get a note 2. I switched and I get noticeably better better life.
Sent from my SCH-I605 using xda app-developers app
if youre unwilling to put in the work, why should anyone help you?
every device runs different and you need to read and try what works for you.
if you dont have the patience for reading and trying then maybe roms arent for you.
not trying to be a jerk but he answered your question when most would avoid this type of thread.
I've looked around at quite a few roms. it's just since there is so many I don't know where to start. I'd like to try a few roms that quite a few people recommend and work down from there. It just seems easier than trying rom after rom after rom for a week or two when I could ask here, get a narrowed down list so I could only spend a few days, find what I liked the most and move on.
Ok thanks for the help.. sorry I wasn't to specific in the op :/ I'll start with chameleon and work my way around the list.
spankamonkey said:
I've looked around at quite a few roms. it's just since there is so many I don't know where to start. I'd like to try a few roms that quite a few people recommend and work down from there. It just seems easier than trying rom after rom after rom for a week or two when I could ask here, get a narrowed down list so I could only spend a few days, find what I liked the most and move on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What you did was fine. Some people are more easily annoyed than others. Try bone stock. Customizable with awesome battery life
Sent from my SCH-I605 using xda app-developers app
Thanks a million man
I was somewhat in the same boat a noob to customize roms the previous posts are right inba sense "to each there own" i read up on some roms then i decided on liquidsmooth thats after a month of reading lil by lil to this day im still learning
A noob suggestion if u want jst better battery life y not jst root and delete all the bloat ware extra stuff that comes in stock tw and go battery saving mod jst my noob suggestion
So my first post sucked..Now what?? Well noobz gotta start somewhere.. I want to be helpful so i can get to the Dev side of things.. Ha don't we all.. O.K. some random helpful s#it!! Backup everything.. If you haven't learned to backup your phone before flashing roms then your probably going to brick it soon.. Not to worry it can be salvaged as someone with a bricked phone learns quickly.. xda has the answers. Ask on a random forum or find one related. Dude really anyone who plays a video game once in awhile knows back it up or deal with the do over that can take hours sometimes.. On my phone I use a MOAR rom ported by NewCultKing,"Give it up for the King". Not so great anyone can get that I know but I use an Anakonda framework theme by dazednconfused.. Ah see now I got your attention, cause its on my verizon I535..Not sprint or Goodness. I didn't even port it. I cheated a bit. Porting takes time, something I lack.. If you check out my profile Pics under the captions you'll see some stuff that explains somethings.. Mainly I took the theme as is from the 4.2 goodness rom theme anakonda matched it mb1 version and flashed over my MOAR rom. It works because Sprint and verizon roms are about 95% the same. The kicker is to make it all work you may have to remove or replace some of the system apks which you can find after flashing in the settings applications. Pie seems to be one just find the last original make download the apk reflash and boom you got it back. Not all we be so easy but beauty is painful..LOL Just make sure to backup before you use this method and I am not responsible for anything you try or your device.. You do this at your own risk. I am a problem solver and love plugging away at my phone at random times.. Plus i love cool S#it...I will try out different methods and roms post em.. I am also working on my own rom and kernal give it time cause i am still learning java as C# was my first programming language which i know only about 90% of but i learn quick and i have works that are working just not how thier supposed to or how i want them to..LOL
Start here,then... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466228