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So Asus has had my tablet for the last month because it randomly crapped out and wouldn't boot. It wouldn't even turn on the screen out respond to the computer. Asus said they would fix it but a month later I still hadn't gotten it back so I called them. They told me they wouldn't fix it because it was unlocked and tried to charge me $250 to replace the motherboard. That is half the price of the tablet! They even said it was a hardware error but they won't honor the warranty even though when I sent it in they said they would.
short story Asus sucks so don't unlock if you want anything from them. I will never buy an Asus product again.
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Sorry about this but Asus does not suck. Everyone knows, new when unlocking it you void the warranty. Again sorry but I do not see how this is Asus fault.

Just the fact that they said they would fix it then they make me pay to shop it to them just to try and charge me another $250. I wouldn't be so pissed if they had said we don't cover unlocked devices up front but I was told that they would cover a hardware issue when I contacted them before I sent it in.
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I'm sorry for what happend to you but asus is right, once you unlock you can replace the kernel to an over clocked one which can causecthe hardware error you describe. I think that most companies will do the same.
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Yeah just about every company would do the same, some won't even touch a modified device. So ASUS is being nice saying for you to pay $250. That may be what you paid for the device but that's still half the price of the brand new retail Infinity.
Buckle up and pay, tax returns are coming around anyways.

the_game_master said:
Yeah just about every company would do the same, some won't even touch a modified device. So ASUS is being nice saying for you to pay $250. That may be what you paid for the device but that's still half the price of the brand new retail Infinity.
Buckle up and pay, tax returns are coming around anyways.
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I would completely agree with you if Asus said that up front. It is the fact that they flip flop and waste a month of my time under false pretense that makes them jerks not the fact it will cost to fix the device.

tpmullan said:
I would completely agree with you if Asus said that up front. It is the fact that they flip flop and waste a month of my time under false pretense that makes them jerks not the fact it will cost to fix the device.
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You broke the warranty 1st. I know for a fact no one ever told you "we know you voided your warranty and will fix this anyway". This has never been said to anyone. The reason took so long haha its ASUS. Just because some employee wants to be nice they in turn do not speak for Asus. The lucky ones get theres sent back but re-locked.
Like someone said just pay for it and move on. Me? I am no one.. I am a leaf on the wind.

Zeblade said:
You broke the warranty 1st. I know for a fact no one ever told you "we know you voided your warranty and will fix this anyway". This has never been said to anyone. The reason took so long haha its ASUS. Just because some employee wants to be nice they in turn do not speak for Asus. The lucky ones get theres sent back but re-locked.
Like someone said just pay for it and move on. Me? I am no one.. I am a leaf on the wind.
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If he lives in the EU, software modifications will not normally void the part of the hardware-related part of the warranty. I even think it was discussed a few weeks ago in this same forum.
Unless I'm mistaken (and, again, in the EU), the manufacturer is the one who has to prove that the software change (unlocking, rooting, whathaveyou) caused the hardware fault.
Of course, this doesn't apply in the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave, where unlocking your phone is a crime...

Do you have it in writing that it was stated they would fix it? Was this done in email? If it was in email and their error for saying it, you might on like .01% chance fight it. Chances are it wouldn't work anyway. Tons of posts about unlocking and losing all warranty that it was foolish to think they would fix it.
I can see how it can be misleading but did you mislead them by not stating up front the device is unlocked? If you didn't then who ever you spoke with assumed you did no modifications to it and warranty is in full effect. Either way again, you agreed to two warnings in the unlock app and the fine print probably states the policy. It was a gamble you took.

alx5000 said:
If he lives in the EU, software modifications will not normally void the part of the hardware-related part of the warranty. I even think it was discussed a few weeks ago in this same forum.
Unless I'm mistaken (and, again, in the EU), the manufacturer is the one who has to prove that the software change (unlocking, rooting, whathaveyou) caused the hardware fault.
Of course, this doesn't apply in the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave, where unlocking your phone is a crime...
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Judging from the fact that he used the $ in his post, I'm going to go ahead and guess that he's from the US. Here, if it's voided, it's voided completely. They say it in large red letters in the app and the download page. It's his fault for trying to get around it and not tell them that he unlocked it.
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Keep unlocking phones legal!!

This really is a USA thread only but all can get involved. Recently our government has ruled that unlocking phones without carrier permission is now illegal. Please sign this petition to change such law so that we can own the technology we buy!!!
http://wh.gov/yA9n
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I don't see what's so unfair about this.
This impacts people who are buying carrier-subsidized devices. This is a practice that has always benefited the carrier much more than the consumer.
This ruling shouldn't be something to get mad about directly - people should be mad about how badly they're being screwed over by subsidies in general. I think it's fair enough that if you sign up to be screwed, you get your full screwing.
Also, if you actually read the thing, it doesn't apply to used devices. This only applies to new phones bought under contract wherein you had full disclosure about the phone's state and the carrier's policy - no one should hedge their bets on being able to circumvent the terms they agreed to.

Even if you buy a phone at full price from a carrier it is still illegal to unlock it without the carriers approval. Thats my issue.
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See the problem is that they claim they are losing money on people unlocking their phones then going to another carrier. The flaw here is that they aren't losing anything, if someone cancels the contract they pay the etf, and if they don't they are still paying monthly because of the contract. Its just another scheme to hurt our money. Carriers can get in on the cell phone unlocking business and charge money to unlock their own cellphones, and there won't be anyone to compete
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this is the result of old baby boomers who do not understand or appreciate info tech but "represent us" in govt + ridiculous amounts of corporate lobby money in politics + people surprised and shocked when they realize they voluntarily screwed themselves by signing bad contracts.
that said, people are too freaked out by this. ask yourself: will you still unlock your phone even if its illegal? if course you would and so would most people. so, who cares?
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bleggy said:
this is the result of old baby boomers who do not understand or appreciate info tech but "represent us" in govt + ridiculous amounts of corporate lobby money in politics + people surprised and shocked when they realize they voluntarily screwed themselves by signing bad contracts.
that said, people are too freaked out by this. ask yourself: will you still unlock your phone even if its illegal? if course you would and so would most people. so, who cares?
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If I paid full price for my phone, I should be able to do whatever I like to it.
But the real impact is: this law kills the spirit of technology innovation.

I see this as an issue between the consumer and carrier. Stop buying phones that don't come unlocked - demand that carriers make it an option or buy used / phones sold as unlocked only.
Carriers are slowly realising that they're losing business if they don't give people the options they want - see Sprint rolling out a pre-paid service (not just the other brands they own).
If a business is screwing you, take your business to one whose terms you like. It's like pay-day loans - terrible for you, but it's your choice to do something terrible for yourself.
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jozmedia said:
If I paid full price for my phone, I should be able to do whatever I like to it.
But the real impact is: this law kills the spirit of technology innovation.
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If you buy your phone on contract, the cost of phone is almost always subsidized and you're playing by their rules. You're essentially leasing the device.
If you buy your phone at full mrsp price, then yes, you should be free to do whatever.
I dont see how this stifles tech advancements at all; I just see the creation of more underground and gray markets for unlocking services. All the bodega cellphone stores will still unlock phones for 30 bucks; they may just advertise less. Hell, they probably wont change that. Do you think cops will even care? Not where I live.
And unlocking tools/codes/apps will still be all over the internet. They may not be on the US Google Play Store anymore. Big deal.
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Exactly. Its not that big of a deal if you.have the know how. I unlocked my galaxy note 2 subsidized without my carriers permission. In 30 seconds flat to work on any carrier. I could care less what government agency cares. And care less about.any legislation anyways as i am officially branded by.my government as an outlaw anyways. I have no respect for worthless laws.
Nor do the police have any means of enforcing this at the moment anyways. And yes i know because i take the.exact same.classes that.digital forensic offocers.take.at.my.college
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I was going to make this same exact thread.
Surprised to see so little activity on this topic especially here on XDA.
I would assume 95% of XDA members phones are unlocked/hacked so this would affect us.
Doesn't matter if you don't think it will be enforced or not, you shouldn't have to worry about being prosecuted just because you want to experiment with your own phone.
We need to reject laws like these that are hostile to the consumer and show greedy corporations and politicians that we are paying attention and won't stand for this crap.

Agreed
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papi92 said:
Even if you buy a phone at full price from a carrier it is still illegal to unlock it without the carriers approval. Thats my issue.
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Okay now that's just wrong on the carrier's part because when you pay full price, you literally own the phone.
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free phones and other devices
I don't like such politics. I want devices free!!!

Too little too late?
There was a thread for this, your probably not seeing it bc no one has posted on it in 4 or 5 days. Its really sad too especially considering that this is probably the first in a line of laws to be unfairly passed that screw the consumer. To everyone overseas: not everyone wants to do something they know is technically illegal, enforced or not. The options for unlocked phones get pretty narrow if you like a certain kind of phone, and even narrower if you are tied to a particular service that has better reception in your area like say verizon like with me. I live in the middle of nowhere...lol but that's a different subject. The point is this sucks bc it takes away our options as consumers. We shouldn't have to not buy locked phones until all the carriers get the hint and safe to say that would take time. Obviously they see the wisdom in this move for them or they would not have done it. I was like the 14,000th signature on this petition and have been watching and promoting it everywhere, and sadly it looks like we have lost the needed speed to finish with 100k sigs. At this rate we will finish with about 80k give or take i figure. Not saying give up bc i wont, but everyone that is in the u.s. and understands whats involved needs to pick it up big time as this gets less media coverage. Spread the word!
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/make-unlocking-cell-phones-legal/1g9KhZG7

This big brother administration keeps ramming through laws that hurt the consumer!

If we purchase a non subsidized phone at full retail do they lower our monthly bill? Can we carrier unlock?
The answer to both is no. Funny how they get it all and we get nothing in return. Enough is enough already.
I will gladly pay full retail if I "own" my phone, no carrier lock and unlocked/s-off, and they reduce my bill accordingly.
Just remember, they use OUR airwaves, and now are abusing the legal system to hold us hostage so they can profit. Pretty sure this is not legal.
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5l4Y said:
I don't like such politics. I want devices free!!!
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Free to unlock our own phones/tablets!! :good: Totally agree!!

Yep, let's get this signed
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White House Petition

Yes I know it's a long shot. But since the White House is getting more technologically advanced these days I figured it was worth a shot. Here is a petition to make it illegal for the carriers to control the software on a device you own.
http://wh.gov/layx4
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I totally agree with this, but the problem is when you buy the device on contract, you don't technically own it until the end of the two years since you're paying it off during those two years.
But if you buy the device out right off contract I think they should have some form of removal.

I know. I phrased it as consumer owned devices so those who bought the device out right or payed their ETF would qualify. Those still under contract are at the mercy of the carrier. I figure once the contract obligations are met they can unlock the bootloader for the customer similar to unlocking it for use on other networks.
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Well I'll sign it either way but this would be a massive legal undertaking

Oh yeah. But since the courts ruled jail breaking was legal this would seem like a common sense extension. Maybe some legal firm wants to make a name for themselves and will take up the cause.
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I also think of it this way. Imagine if Ford told you that you could only put Ford approved tires on your vehicle even though it was paid off and you held the title.
Then they claimed it was to keep other Ford drivers safe. However, if you bought the the same Ford in Canada then you could put whatever tires you wanted on it. Doesn't make much sense does it?
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I'm starting a petition to stop other petitions from being petitioned especially ones that have been tried before with the same results.

There is 0 chance you get the 100,000 signatures you need in 1 month. It was a nice try, but it simply won't happen
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I don't know, I kinda liked the one where Texas petitioned to secede. I signed it, but then again, I'm not from Texas...
As to the OP, best of luck, but I don't think 'long shot' even begins to describe it.

Yes. It will fail. People will take 30 seconds to come here and whine and [email protected]#ch about it but won't take the same amount of time to sign it. Apathy at its finest.
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I think its just a majority don't want to "Register" anything with the government.
Most of the people on these type of forums and similar forums are hackers/moders (good and/or bad doesnt matter)
They just wont simply register an account with the government to sign the petition.

Bingo...my thought exactly.

Guys, this doesn't make any sense. Don't get me wrong, i feel your pain, but you have to understand the fundamentals of business before you start asking a restructuring. When you buy a phone on contract, you are SUBSIDIZING a phone. By definition, a subsidy is: "A sum of money granted by the government or a public body to assist an industry or business so that the price of a commodity or service may remain low or competitive" In this case, its not the government but a corporation, that is funding you so you can purchase a commodity or service. You are taking a good, using a service, subsidized, and have to oblige to their guidelines. It's like if you asked a movie company that sells DVDs to remove copy protection, or a car manufacturer to not lock the car at 230km/h.
As long are you are being subsidized by your carrier, you have to follow their rules. In a carriers head, having an unlock bootloader mean user can fiddle with their phone, use them above their OEM specs, and potentially break them. How many people have bricked, or even fried their phone because of a failed flash or bad OC? A lot, and that in terms mean A LOT more $$$$ for the carriers to replace your phone, because we can all agree if you bring them a phone that is not water damaged, or physically damaged, they will almost certainly just swap it for a refurb one and they will deal with that later.
It sucks, but its not only their right, it's also understandable. If users took a little more precaution when playing around with roms, maybe this would not be the case. So until then, buy unlocked

Thermalwolf said:
I totally agree with this, but the problem is when you buy the device on contract, you don't technically own it until the end of the two years since you're paying it off during those two years.
But if you buy the device out right off contract I think they should have some form of removal.
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This is not true at all. A subsidized phone still belongs to the customer.

Thank you polish_pat for explaining that. I don't know how many times I've tried to explain that to someone.
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RedIronCrown said:
This is not true at all. A subsidized phone still belongs to the customer.
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it does, but that doesn't mean you can do what you want with it. It's yours, but with "strings attached"

I really wish something like this works one day.

polish_pat said:
it does, but that doesn't mean you can do what you want with it. It's yours, but with "strings attached"
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Actually, you can do what you want with it. You can sell or modify it as you see fit with no more consequence than if you had bought the phone outright without a contract. There is literally nothing you can do with a purchased phone that you cannot with a subsidized phone.
The subsidy is to get you to sign a service contract, which obligates you to pay for their service for whatever the contract term is. Nothing to do with the hardware.

Which is why I phrased it as a consumer owned device. If gives the carrier an out while you are paying off the subsidy. However, once you paid off the device, At&t should have no say in what goes on the device. Providing an unlocked bootloader at that point would be what we would be looking for.
Remember at one time Jail breaking was considered illegal, but the courts ruled in favor of he consumer.
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Yes you can sell the phone, but you are still locked into 2 year plan. It's not like after selling the phone you can get an upgrade on the same line right away with discounted price. AT&T doesn't care what you do with your phone as long as you are not eligible for an upgrade on discounted price. You can sell it and don't use the phone, still you need to pay them the monthly bill until your contract is over. People who paid full amount without any contracts from AT&T, they have full right to make the petition about this issue.
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Uuuugghhh !!!!!!

Iam so sick of samsung and/or carriers locking our phones down. I was going to buy a GN3, and now think I might just keep my POS rooted but NO RECOVERY !!!! ATT GS4. If its this bad with the gs4 imagine how difficult the GN3 is going to be. Had to vent.

joewspot said:
Iam so sick of samsung and/or carriers locking our phones down. I was going to buy a GN3, and now think I might just keep my POS rooted but NO RECOVERY !!!! ATT GS4. If its this bad with the gs4 imagine how difficult the GN3 is going to be. Had to vent.
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You could always try to grab a T-Mobile or Sprint variant since they will most likely be unlocked, but yea sad to say as much as I want a Note 3 now, it's going to be locked and locked down hard :/

I've been thinking about just give n the difference I should have paid for my phone to the bounty for bootloader unlock. I paid 200$ so I was thinking of put n 300$ in on the bounty .maybe if everybody did this it might help.
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As the world turns.
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joewspot said:
Iam so sick of samsung and/or carriers locking our phones down. I was going to buy a GN3, and now think I might just keep my POS rooted but NO RECOVERY !!!! ATT GS4. If its this bad with the gs4 imagine how difficult the GN3 is going to be. Had to vent.
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What I did was buy a Sim unlocked device from a carrier who's boot loader can be broken and just transfer it to your personal carrier
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This is why Google releases Nexus devices. Technically most carrier devices aren't even meant for development unless noted. Development phones are provided with unlocked or unlockable bootloaders. They are under absolutely no obligation to provide you such feature with a non-development device. Quit your whining child.

Here is a possible solution...chat with an att rep, tell them that ur going abroad and need it unlocked..they will most likely provide it for you..unlock it and sell it to get about 500$ ish.. Buy a i9500 or something online like eBay and be set..
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chaosclarity said:
This is why Google releases Nexus devices. Technically most carrier devices aren't even meant for development unless noted. Development phones are provided with unlocked or unlockable bootloaders. They are under absolutely no obligation to provide you such feature with a non-development device. Quit your whining child.
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If someone pays $500-$600 for a phone, they should be able to do with it as they wish. AT&T should just warn the buyer that bricked phones will not be warrantied and leave the bootloader as it was. But they chose to push an OTA update, with a locked bootloader, to our phones. That was a real B***h move on their part.

gj23 said:
If someone pays $500-$600 for a phone, they should be able to do with it as they wish. AT&T should just warn the buyer that bricked phones will not be warrantied and leave the bootloader as it was. But they chose to push an OTA update, with a locked bootloader, to our phones. That was a real B***h move on their part.
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No one said he couldn't unlock the bootloader - everything is crack-able. Just because it's locked doesn't mean he can't unlock it, in theory. He just needs the brains to do so.
That's like buying a new car and saying, "uggh wtf! The turbo should be running 30psi, not 10!!"... you pay some money to a tuner, and bam.. it's faster now. Same goes with a locked phone - there are devs out there that can do this - I'm sure for the right price they'll put in the work and unlock it.
Effing people expect life to be served on a silver platter to them and on top it, to be free. Grow up!

Oh look, another one of these threads...
Here is the reason why they do this.
They want government contracts. The government 'DoD' specifically is choosing Android over iOS because iOS more closed down than Android even with locked bootloaders. They have to show really good security. Making something this hard to break shows that security.
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chaosclarity said:
This is why Google releases Nexus devices. Technically most carrier devices aren't even meant for development unless noted. Development phones are provided with unlocked or unlockable bootloaders. They are under absolutely no obligation to provide you such feature with a non-development device. Quit your whining child.
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Well someone here doesn't understand what the Open Handset Alliance / Android was all about and feels like they are holier than thou
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MavereXx said:
Well someone here doesn't understand what the Open Handset Alliance / Android was all about and feels like they are holier than thou
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Ok, whatever. I don't care.

I guess you havent done your research before opening your ignorant mouth.....some of the best developers have spent countless hours on this bootloader and have stated that without a leak or Samsung tool, its not going to happen. So, I guess it would be like buying a car and without the permission from the auto maker, you couldnt do anything to that car.....idiot!
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gj23 said:
I guess you havent done your research before opening your ignorant mouth.....some of the best developers have spent countless hours on this bootloader and have stated that without a leak or Samsung tool, its not going to happen. So, I guess it would be like buying a car and without the permission from the auto maker, you couldnt do anything to that car.....idiot!
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Please refrain from name calling.
Now, AT&T owns the bootloaders. They are not open source. They make Google implement them on our devices because they are Google's client/customer. Google has to abide by what their clients want or they will lose that client. Since the bootloaders are not open source, AT&T is not obligated by any means be it themselves or through Google to unlock or provide a way to unlock the bootloaders. Furthermore, AT&T can afford to lose the few customers that care about bootloaders being unlocked or unlockable because what they lose in public customer revenue, they will more than make up for in private government contracts. They know this and have compensated for it.
Should they handle it differently? Yes. But they will not lose much of anything if they keep it as is.
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The developers on XDA arena amazing and almost always find a solution. I wouldn't worry about having it customizable. I'm thinking of a note 3 myself but the convenience of recording is too good to give up for now. I love not having to write things down and at the press of one button be able to get the information
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Verizon Wireless Developer Program

This is for any Verizon device, not just the Samsung Galaxy S5. Please spread this to other device forums!
Recently, I came up with an idea of a developer program. What this program would do is allow people to pay a fee to have their bootloaders unlocked, regardless of the device. This would allow people the freedom to modify their device or develop for it without any issues. I did a little research and could not find anything similar to this (besides developer edition devices). So, with this idea in mind, I sent an email to the Executive VP of Verizon. Twenty minutes later, I received a phone call from his office. Long story short (there was a lot of talk about rooting and unlocking), the guy who called me put my idea through to marketing. However, since only about 1% of customers root their devices, there is concern of the interest in this.
What this thread is for is to see how many people would be interested in this program.
What would you be willing to pay to customer service to have your bootloader unlocked?
$0
$5
$25
$50
$100
Please use only one of those five prices, and no other prices.
You may discuss this in further detail in this thread. However, arguing, trolling, slandering, bickering, and anything else that will clutter this thread and overwork the moderators WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. This thread is not the thread to argue with others over the details since the idea is already in marketing. If you wish to argue or troll, please take it somewhere else. And, as always, please follow the forum rules. Thank you for looking at this thread.
For those who are concerned with the warranty, please read this. Huge thanks to @shootind5nukes for this info.
Just so everyone knows the Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act prevents someone from totally VOIDING a warranty. Verizon/Samsung could only deny to warranty something if they can prove something you did cause the issue. Anything that has nothing to do with what you did still has to be under warranty. If you LCD started to lose color or get dead pixels that would still have to be covered because that has nothing to do with bootloaders and flashing ROMS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson–Moss_Warranty_Act
"The federal minimum standards for full warranties are waived if the warrantor can show that the problem associated with a warranted consumer product was caused by damage while in the possession of the consumer, or by unreasonable use, including a failure to provide reasonable and necessary maintenance."
I learned about this when I was going to get my truck lifted. I was told if I did it would VOID my truck's warranty. After looking into it further it didn't actually VOID anything. But for example if I went in to get my suspension fixed because it broke they could argue that the lift kit put stress on the suspension and that's why it failed so they would not have to cover it. But if my motor exploded because it was made out of cheese it would still be under warranty, the entire warranty can never be voided. Only damage caused by what you did. Food for thought guys.
If anyone has anything to add please do.
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Here is the email of the VP I emailed if you want to email him about the developer program. Again, thank you @shootind5nukes for this idea.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/aboutus/leadership/executive/profiles/david-small.html
IF YOU DO EMAIL HIM, BE POLITE AND RESPECTFUL PLEASE.​

eragon5779 said:
What would you be willing to pay to customer service to have your bootloader unlocked?
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$0. I am a firm believer that the devices I purchase should be fully open for customization.

At this point I would be willing to pay a one time fee of $25. It makes sense it would be a charge since the dev edition has to be bought at full price.
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Verizon has alot of customers 1% is alot of people.

Great program, if implemented. Kudos for the idea AND getting a response! I would pay up to a hundred bucks for an official unlock like this, but I have ATT...

25 is fair, but I'd pay up to 50, if it included some insurance for the device. Is also say, that as an ATT customer, a service like this would tempt me to switch to Verizon

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I'm on ATT as well but would pay upto $50. But my question is if they give a way to unlock it, it would be universal thru all phones. So why wouldn't i just tell my friend. If they would do this why wouldn't they just charge an extra $50 on every phone and have every phone unlocked. No more hassle. Why are they so greedy? If it's only 1% that care about there freedom what would they loose? They would make tons more money.....
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I agree w/ @Cat McGowan, devices should be open for development. And therefore would like to pay $0, but a $5 fee isn't too bad...

According to this there are 107.7 million Verizon wireless customers. So if 1.077 Million people (1%) root there devices on Verizon Wireless and are willing to pay $5 for a bootloader unlock, If everybody pays $5 to unlock there device Verizon would make 5.385 Million Dollars

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I voted for $50 because that seems reasonable but at this point ive been looking to buy a $200 device that is unlockable so i would really probably pay more for a clean, official unlock. I agree that the spirit of Android should be open and therefore unlocked for free but its obvious that OEMs dont feel this way and Google isnt likely to "pull an Apple" so to speak and tell OEMs to leave their devices unlocked.
How wonderful would it be to not have to risk bricking devices and staying one step ahead to keep root and ROM?!
If Big Red is talking about this then its a milestone indeed. For so long the official position has been to shut it down. Maybe all of our annoying voices are finally breaking through?
I for one, constantly post on their facebook page, email and frequently call just to bug em about this. Keep it up and step it up! Maybe we can get somewhere?
Edit: Which VP did you email? haha. Seems like everyone on their site is a VP of something or another. Maybe we could all make our voices heard together?

I'd pay $100 if i had to, but $50 is more realistic. If it was $100 i feel like that would dissuade enough people from spending that type of money to the point where community development is lacking , just like it is for locked down devices with only DevEd's as an option.
I really really hope something comes from this. TMo is just looking too good these days but i don't want to give up this network.

I would be comfortable with $25.00.

I'm with big blue, would pay 25 bucks in a heartbeat. 50... ehh, I'd be hesitant. This is the first device I've owned where I wasn't hellbent on unlocking the bootloader
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joshuabg said:
According to this there are 107.7 million Verizon wireless customers. So if 1.077 Million people (1%) root there devices on Verizon Wireless and are willing to pay $5 for a bootloader unlock, If everybody pays $5 to unlock there device Verizon would make 5.385 Million Dollars
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I voted for $100, but all of these choices seem reasonable to me. Obviously being able to do it for free would be optimal.
The quote above really isn't a great way of looking at it. Sure, $5M sounds like a lot, but taken in context it is a rounding error at a place like Verizon. That $5M isn't enough to move top line revenue by a single basis point, and therefore wouldn't be enough incentive to the bottom line. Even $100 for the 1.077M people would only add 10 basis points to top line revenue.
All that said, money can't be the sole factor for getting them to let us unlock the bootloaders. They would have to look at the goodwill it would create, and the new customers, as evidenced above, that they could steal away from the other carriers.

Personally I believe we should pay $0 as I paid for the device and should be allowed to do as I please with it. Realistically tho $5-$10 wouldnt be terrible
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I'd be willing to pay up to $50. I would think Verizon could easily steal some customers away from other carriers by offering something like this. However, I don't see any carrier offering any kind of warranty on a device that has had its bootloader modified. It would be very easy for a newb like myself to brick my device and then try to get another under warranty...

$25

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$0. I am a firm believer that the devices I purchase should be fully open for customization.
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This. All of this.

$25
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