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Why continue to flash new Roms?

I'm certain this has been brought up before Several thousand times, but I gotta ask again...What is it that drives people to constantly flash new Roms/updates every couple days or even weeks?
I have been running cleanRom 3.0 and having no issues, no bugs, GREAT battery life. Why would I change that? I know CleanRom 5.0 has come out, but what would be the point to update if 3.0 is working perfectly and spot on?
Is it that people get bored?
Is it that people wonder what is different?
just makes me wonder.

Im guilty of this myself. I believe a rooted debloated with a theme of your choice is the way to go
iSheep... iSheep... Meowww that's Apple

see whats different, see customizations, battery life, other random usually rom exclusive features.
ive probably flashed 75% of the roms available for this device just to see what theyre all about.
it helps me help other people, and helps me make my device my own.
most of the times its out of boredom and i restore my daily driver rom

Because updates to the ROM = possibly better phone

I prefer stability but I like changing stuff on my phone. I'll stay on a rom for a few weeks and not change a thing but the entire time I'll want to flash something even if I have no reason too smh Ultimately, I'm just not satisfied with what ships out the box.
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The grass is always greener.
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I used to flash weekly with my OG droid, over the years I have slowed down to once a month or so. I have 4 android devices so thats still a lot of flashing. I am always in search of the perfect rom, haha whatever that may be. faster, smoother, bells and whistles. I don't even know.

To have the latest and greatest rom.

Bug fixes and improvements. Plain and simple.

I've been trying to find the best Rom for what I do every day, but there are always little problems that bug me on every Rom. I damaged Clean Rom 5.0 and have finally stopped the daily flashing. This is as close as I well get to the prefect Rom.
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And I get what everyone has said. BUT for those of us that prefer performance (i.e. great battery life, no issues/bugs, fast speeds) over "new'ness", once you find a Rom that gives you the best of all worlds, why would you even worry about the latest? I have been on CleanRom 3.0 for since a couple weeks after it came out. ONLY reason I went to it was because I wasn't happy with the 4 Roms I tried before. Those 4 Roms I tried prior all had bugs or poor battery life that I wasn't happy with. Now that I am Happy with EVERYTHING, I dont plan on changing.
And don't get me wrong here, I know that just because I am satisfied and not wanting to flash doesn't mean that others will be content with that. Nobody needs to tell me that. I'm not trying to debate, just trying to see how others here think.

Because it is great to see the capability of your device by exploring different roms and it is so darn addicting.
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Because the majority of us here at XDA who root our phones and flash ROMs are tech junkies. Technology is like a drug to many of us. We are never content and always need the next fix, whatever the latest and greatest may be.
CleanROM 5.0 is built on the latest Jelly Bean leak, which has many improvements over the Ice Cream Sandwich base that CleanROM 3.0 is built on.

mmmmm rom flashing!!!!

1Android said:
And I get what everyone has said. BUT for those of us that prefer performance (i.e. great battery life, no issues/bugs, fast speeds) over "new'ness", once you find a Rom that gives you the best of all worlds, why would you even worry about the latest? I have been on CleanRom 3.0 for since a couple weeks after it came out. ONLY reason I went to it was because I wasn't happy with the 4 Roms I tried before. Those 4 Roms I tried prior all had bugs or poor battery life that I wasn't happy with. Now that I am Happy with EVERYTHING, I dont plan on changing.
And don't get me wrong here, I know that just because I am satisfied and not wanting to flash doesn't mean that others will be content with that. Nobody needs to tell me that. I'm not trying to debate, just trying to see how others here think.
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I'm like you in that I don't want to potentially compromise the stability and functionality of my phone without significant incentive. For me the incentive was new functionality and increased performance. I've only flashed three roms other than stock.
CleanROM 3.1 was the first ROM I flashed, and as you said, it's stable with great battery life and pretty smooth. The smooth operation of my phone is what made me cautious about jumping to the first JB leak. Instead I kept track of the CR, stock leak, and Jelly Beans threads and read up on the bugs and issues.
Ultimately what I was reading about Google Now and Project Butter made me realize that I really wanted Jelly Bean and the few known issues in JB leak #2 were not enough to stop me from flashing Jelly Beans Build 2. I don't regret that decision, Jelly Beans is a cool rom with a nice AOSP theme, ran really smooth, and generally gave me good battery life (depending on what I was running). Also Google Now is really really cool.
Then I was reading about AOSP roms like LiquidSmooth RC9 and SlimBeans 3.1 that were about the come out. It seems like those teams had dedicated developers who were squashing existing bugs. With the remaining bugs pretty much known, but the ROMs otherwise stable I decided to give LiquidSmooth a shot. The motivation here was to really rid myself of all the stuff Samsung had running in the background, with touchwiz it seems like there are a million things classified under "Android System" when trying to diagnose a battery drain. With AOSP when I look at battery stats Screen and Cellular Calls are the only apps that really make a dent. I also like the clean styling, functionality, and flexibility of the AOSP lockscreen and UI in general.
Unless I encounter any other problems I will probably wait for a stable AOSP 4.2.1 rom to come out so I can try the new features there and hopefully some bug fixes for the bluetooth audio issues in 4.1.2.

I m coming from a tbolt i now have a verizon s3(unrooted so far) n I m guilty of "being in search of a perfect rom". What drove me to search was claims of better battery life, quicker and stable. What drove me back to my daily driver(skyraider) was frequent reboots( while googlemaps), applications not working(slingbox in particular ) inability to view video(live streams from my church).
I m currently doing research for the perfect rom for my S3 as I just activated the s3 yesterday (n I'm missing having a rooted phone) and I m resisting the urge to root!

pcar1947 said:
I m currently doing research for the perfect rom for my S3 as I just activated the s3 yesterday (n I'm missing having a rooted phone) and I m resisting the urge to root!
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I give it three days before you root/unlock or no later than the weekend. Regardless: root, unlock, and backup your IMEI!
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bug fixes
new features
security updates
Compulsion
fun
hacking/tinkering instinct
Customization
because we can
If you are happy where you are at then don't sweat flashing new stuff.

SlimSnoopOS said:
I give it three days before you root/unlock or no later than the weekend. Regardless: root, unlock, and backup your IMEI!
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I'll second backing up your IMEI... being a total noob I researched and backed up everything I could, and I'm glad I did, second Rom I flashed sent my phone into permanent roaming. Following the stickies here made the fix simple.
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If everything works it just means you aren't running the latest and greatest.
You must tweak your phone until something breaks.
Then you search for the next fix.
It is the path that must be followed.

[Q] What ROM would you recomend?

Up until switching to Verizon recently I have only ever used Nexus Devices. I like the Stock Android that comes with a Nexus Device. Now I have an SCH-i535 Galaxy S3 and I hate it. I have rooted and installed custom bootloaders on this, I even tried using the root66 ROM for a while until VZW pushed an update that killed it, since then I have been completely stock.
I have used an AOSP ROM on my wifes Inspire 4G for a while and it wasn't very stable, kinda turned me off on custom ROMs.
Now I think I am ready to delve into custom ROMs again with my S3 and want some recommendations from the community on what would give me the closest experience to a the stock Nexus version of Android on my S3. It would also be awesome if I could get Google Wallet working on it too but that is not a requirement.
Thanks in advance and try not to flame me too hard as this is my first post and I really am too lazy to read every post on every ROM to find what I'm looking for.

RileyKA said:
Up until switching to Verizon recently I have only ever used Nexus Devices. I like the Stock Android that comes with a Nexus Device. Now I have an SCH-i535 Galaxy S3 and I hate it. I have rooted and installed custom bootloaders on this, I even tried using the root66 ROM for a while until VZW pushed an update that killed it, since then I have been completely stock.
I have used an AOSP ROM on my wifes Inspire 4G for a while and it wasn't very stable, kinda turned me off on custom ROMs.
Now I think I am ready to delve into custom ROMs again with my S3 and want some recommendations from the community on what would give me the closest experience to a the stock Nexus version of Android on my S3. It would also be awesome if I could get Google Wallet working on it too but that is not a requirement.
Thanks in advance and try not to flame me too hard as this is my first post and I really am too lazy to read every post on every ROM to find what I'm looking for.
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if youre too lazy, youre going to run into issues.
the best thing you can do is read and try roms. wallet will work with any rom as far as i know. theres a thread in the themes and apps section you should look at.
youre thread will most likely be closed like others do of this nature.
every device runs differently so your results will vary.
some roms have smaller faetures that cause people to stay. theyre all kinda unique.
if you like youre stock features checkout touchwiz roms. if you want something closer to nexus check out the AOSP roms.
if you like stock and the look of AOSP checkout the touchwiz ones that have AOSP themes.
sorry for the vague answer, but figured id give some help before the thread is closed.
good luck.

ddurandSGS3 said:
if youre too lazy, youre going to run into issues.
the best thing you can do is read and try roms. wallet will work with any rom as far as i know. theres a thread in the themes and apps section you should look at.
youre thread will most likely be closed like others do of this nature.
every device runs differently so your results will vary.
some roms have smaller faetures that cause people to stay. theyre all kinda unique.
if you like youre stock features checkout touchwiz roms. if you want something closer to nexus check out the AOSP roms.
if you like stock and the look of AOSP checkout the touchwiz ones that have AOSP themes.
sorry for the vague answer, but figured id give some help before the thread is closed.
good luck.
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Thanks for the reply. I see that someone posted pretty much the same question as I did . I think I'll watch that thread also to see what comes up.

[Q] Best Stock Android ROM?

Hey guys, apologies if I'm not posting in the best possible section for this, but I've been wondering for a while.
I've been getting sick of TouchWiz. Not just the launcher (I got Nova the moment I could, and am still using it) but the customizations of the phone itself and the small annoyances that Verizon baked in, such as the always-on WiFi indicator. I've been debating going to a stock ROM for a long while, and I've made my decision to break free of the ridiculousness that is Verizon and Samsung's customizations, as they've made the phone slow, and I know it can run much better than it is right now. So here's my question:
What's the best stock Android ROM currently? I'd preferably want one that is
Being currently developed. I don't want a ROM with a lazy developer. (If ROMs are a few weeks late, I won't mind, but I don't want to be waiting forever to get the next .1 added to my version number.
Quick and minimal. Literally as close to stock Android as it can be. If there are things that need to be kept, such as the camera app, that's fine, but I'd like to rid myself of as much TouchWiz as I can.
Free of bugs. I know most ROMs aren't perfect. I'm fine with that. I need something to work as a stable daily driver, and I don't much care to hop on the next nightly I can find.
On the latest version of Android without bugs.
I have experience with rooting and flashing with Odin, but I haven't done it in a while, so if the method to root+flash is more than a one click or a couple of console commands, I'd like to be guided if possible. I have no want to brick my phone, as you can well imagine.
Also, if there's a list of stock ROMs for the Verizon GS3, I'd like to be pointed in that direction, if possible.
Thanks! I hope to hear from someone soon!

Not being rude but, if you were to take the amount of time you put into making this thread and actually looked throughout the forums you'd find a thread already on this or get this, you could go to the development threads and read the ops. Mind blowing right?
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Yeah, I know that. I could surf through bunches of ROMs, but I posted here as a question for community feedback on a bunch of them, that might help me make a decision.
Is asking for opinions and information less efficient than going through a list that's new territory for me?
I'm not stupid. I want advice and info from experienced users. Is that so hard to ask for?

Great thread idea. Surprised no one else has done this.
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You described most of the roms that this phone has. Most give you an option to keep phone stock, Based on each thread, they're all amazing to use daily. As far as being on the latest version you simply have to look at the thread title.
You'll definitely need to go through several threads and try them out to see what suits your needs best. It's not an easy task when there are several awesome developers on your phone!

farenteria said:
You described most of the roms that this phone has. Most give you an option to keep phone stock, Based on each thread, they're all amazing to use daily. As far as being on the latest version you simply have to look at the thread title.
You'll definitely need to go through several threads and try them out to see what suits your needs best. It's not an easy task when there are several awesome developers on your phone!
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Thanks! Didn't know I was delving into such a huge bunch of ROMs. Back in the X and Droid 2 days, I had to surf through a bunch of different ROMs that really weren't reliable. I know things have changed, but this seems pretty extreme.
If you know of any, which ones have you heard are the, well, "god-tier" ROMs? Any developers who are notable that I should check first?
Thanks again!

I wouldn't judge god tier roms, I'm happy to say that all of these roms on this device forum are just as reliable, it's only a matter of how your phone plays with the rom you end up choosing, since all devices play differently. Even if these threads are meant to be locked since they bring nothing but just opinions.
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I will say that there isn't a rom that is the best. It is all about your preference. I have had bad experiences with Synergy,Axis and CleanRom doesn't mean that these are sh***y roms.

Addiso said:
I wouldn't judge god tier roms, I'm happy to say that all of these roms on this device forum are just as reliable, it's only a matter of how your phone plays with the rom you end up choosing, since all devices play differently. Even if these threads are meant to be locked since they bring nothing but just opinions.
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Well, I was just looking for information on the best Roms for the GS3, but since all of the Roms are apparently great, could you list a couple? Even if they aren't "god-tier", are there at least some that fit the qualifications and are well known? I know there's not going to be a "These are the best ROMs ever" list, but are there a few that are highly maintained, or some developers that are well known besides CyanogenMod?
Sorry if I seem new to this whole thing.

Barebones stock is pretty much all I've been for almost a month, and at this point I'm not ashamed to admit I'm a flashaholic, but i only flash his updates (andybones) and the great news is that he keeps the rom consistent in updates and solid Smoot performance.
Also hypredrive just got updated to rls 15 and that's another amazing rom that gets a monthly update and its worth the wait and a very determined developer.
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buckoman said:
Thanks! Didn't know I was delving into such a huge bunch of ROMs. Back in the X and Droid 2 days, I had to surf through a bunch of different ROMs that really weren't reliable. I know things have changed, but this seems pretty extreme.
If you know of any, which ones have you heard are the, well, "god-tier" ROMs? Any developers who are notable that I should check first?
Thanks again!
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You should give every rom a go, but you can start testing with Synergy. Try it for a week, and then test another rom

Sorry, "Best" is a term that is subjective and can only be defined by the individual, the post above/before me is a good idea.
XDA is not a support site, users are expected to use and test on their own.
Best Rom Threads = Closed Threads

[Q] Best 4.4 ROM?

I am currently on SlimROM 2.2 and I've been on Slim since beta 2. I absolutely love SlimROM but I really want to try 4.4. Should I wait till next week when SlimKAT beta releases or should I try out one of the already available 4.4 ROMs? Which 4.4 ROM do you like best and why?
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KitKang, @mastamoon's builds, @sspencer10's builds. All are great
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Hopefully this thread doesn't get shut down. I like the objective discussions on roms. Helps make decisions.
Anyways, I've tried all but the new gummy rom, and I've had the best luck with mastamoon's. Hit 5 hours of screen on time (probably 15 total on the charge). All the 4.4 roms are pretty smooth, to be honest. They do have the typical aosp issues of wonky camera's/galleries and signal issues in low signal areas. Also a bit different navigating to the SD card. I'm back on tw right now for stability, but will probably get my flashing fix again in a week or so.
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kude87 said:
Hopefully this thread doesn't get shut down. I like the objective discussions on roms. Helps make decisions.
Anyways, I've tried all but the new gummy rom, and I've had the best luck with mastamoon's. Hit 5 hours of screen on time (probably 15 total on the charge). All the 4.4 roms are pretty smooth, to be honest. They do have the typical aosp issues of wonky camera's/galleries and signal issues in low signal areas. Also a bit different navigating to the SD card. I'm back on tw right now for stability, but will probably get my flashing fix again in a week or so.
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Threads like these are always shut down as this is a development site meant for those who are making the ROMs ,apps and mods. The community helps with getting these things to work and with solving problems you may have with the ROMs, apps and mods. I am sure one of the moderators will mention something similar before closing it down. I personally wouldn't mind helping but I have read these types of threads and they usually lead to unnecessary debates.

Yeah this is gonna turn into an argument about roms. I would say try Slim Kat beta since ur on Slim already. Otherwise I would go with Invisiblek's builds or my current Paranoid Android 4.0

Definitely agree with you both. These usually turn into fan boy brawls, although I wish they didn't. It's nice to simply hear someone else's experience with a rom. However, even that has to be taken with a grain of salt because of user error, different phone, bad downloads, etc. So many variables. I just don't like it when someone says "just try it" when simple friendly Q & A in a forum may help someone make a decision that ultimately benefits them. I read a crap ton of each thread before I go asking noob questions, but sometimes it's nice to defer to someone who's been running that rom for a while to answer, especially if you haven't been. Many times the op instructions are outdated and people say "what you want is 10 pages back, read it why don't you." I have no problem with someone asking nicely looking to gain knowledge about any of this stuff on the site. To expect someone to read everything is a bit ridiculous. That's why these discussions, if handled correctly, are nice. Just my two cents.
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All the above, and the fact that XDA is not really a support site. Users need to try them all to make this determination on their own.
And, yes...thread is closed.

So I would like some ROM Opinions.

Hey boys and girls! It's been a bit of awhile since I've posted. I've had my Tmobile Note 5 since the day of release and I've loved this phone ever since day 1! As of right now Im currently running a Sky High kernel and N5 Express. Unfortunately my Note 5's time has come and I've pre ordered the S8 Plus, so I'll just be pretty much using it more or less as a personal media device or maybe for bluetooth lol. I understand that each developer here has their own purpose to each and every ROM but I just sorta want some info from some of you people in the T-Mobile section. What are you running? Why do you prefer it? I know how to flash so I don't really need any assistance in that. Shoot. I've been customizing phones ever since the PPC6700 . Your opinions are much appreciated!

Hi mate, my 2 cents here, I have been using darkstalker rom for a while, it's a stock based rom with all the bells and whistles that you would expect from a custom rom.. Its becoming outdated but I use it mainly for the stability, I hadn't a single crash since I installed it, impressive.. I wouldn't mind an update though, but the developer is no longer updating it. Just my 2 cents..
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I'm currently on Khongloi's S8 Nougat and its running pretty good. the issues that was in v4 have been worked out in v5. There's also an issue with Titanium Backup not seeing that your phone is rooted but there's a fix for that as well. I have been using it for a few days and I must say, I'm very impressed with the ROM. Once Nougat comes out to our phones (any day now......) then development will open up again.

Sounds good
Hey your input is much appreciated and I will definitely play with the Darth Stalker! I like the amount of customization as well!
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yugoport said:
Hi mate, my 2 cents here, I have been using darkstalker rom for a while, it's a stock based rom with all the bells and whistles that you would expect from a custom rom.. Its becoming outdated but I use it mainly for the stability, I hadn't a single crash since I installed it, impressive.. I wouldn't mind an update though, but the developer is no longer updating it. Just my 2 cents..
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I'm currently on Khongloi's S8 Nougat and its running pretty good. the issues that was in v4 have been worked out in v5. There's also an issue with Titanium Backup not seeing that your phone is rooted but there's a fix for that as well. I have been using it for a few days and I must say, I'm very impressed with the ROM. Once Nougat comes out to our phones (any day now......) then development will open up again.
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Very nice I will have to mess around with that S8 rom too! Makes me stoked for my new one to come . I appreciate the information and I look forward to taking a part into that development aswell!

I was formerly using Darthstalker, but I've since moved to Nemesis Rom for some hands on with Nougat. While I like the rom itself I miss the full range of customization that Darthstalker has. The closest thing that I've seen in terms of customization is NN8 Rom but I've yet to get call audio working on it.