Any way to make s-pen as smooth as surface pro stylus? - Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I just tested out a surface pro at staples and I have to admit the stylus is as good if not better than writing on paper. Its snappy and stays right with the pen without any lag. And onenote has unbelievable scribble recognition, picked up everything I jotted down. Is there anything that can be done to have the note writing as smooth as the SP? If not I think I'll be selling mine off and holding off for a pro 2, because as is the note just isnt meeting my needs.

What do you mean? I just sold my Surface Pro for the big Note and its digitizer performs just as well as the one on my Pro did. If you want, you can buy the Surface Pro pen ($35) and Papyrus, which us just as good for wiring stuff (which I do all of the time).

mrcrassic said:
What do you mean? I just sold my Surface Pro for the big Note and its digitizer performs just as well as the one on my Pro did. If you want, you can buy the Surface Pro pen ($35) and Papyrus, which us just as good for wiring stuff (which I do all of the time).
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When writing on the 10.1 there is a noticeable distance between the pen and ink appearing when writing in a normal manner. You have to write slowly for the ink to catch up whereas on the SP it's right on top of the pen no matter how quickly you scribble. This causes the 10.1 to miss certain aspects of the writing when you write quickly.

I don't write slowly at all and the pen is able to catch up with me on all of my strokes. I just wrote a slightly length journal entry in Papyrus and it didn't slow down on me once. I was actually surprised, considering that I was actually expecting some lag.
I think this is a fault of whatever application you're using (S Note?). For what it's worth, I'm on CM 10.1.

mrcrassic said:
I don't write slowly at all and the pen is able to catch up with me on all of my strokes. I just wrote a slightly length journal entry in Papyrus and it didn't slow down on me once. I was actually surprised, considering that I was actually expecting some lag.
I think this is a fault of whatever application you're using (S Note?). For what it's worth, I'm on CM 10.1.
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Ill have to test some more but more input from other users would definitely be appreciated. Im on stock and yes Snote is the app I use

Try Papyrus.

Papyrus doesnt seem to havr text recognition though I must admit the the pen is smooth. Correct me if im wrong

mrcrassic said:
you can buy the Surface Pro pen ($35)
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$24.95 on ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Microsoft-Stylus-Pen-for-Microsoft-Surface-Pro-5PT00001-/330991538673?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d10a211f1

does the surface pro pen work with the pressure sensitivity with the N8013?

You sound like a troll to me.
Sgrrsh26 said:
I just tested out a surface pro at staples and I have to admit the stylus is as good if not better than writing on paper. Its snappy and stays right with the pen without any lag. And onenote has unbelievable scribble recognition, picked up everything I jotted down. Is there anything that can be done to have the note writing as smooth as the SP? If not I think I'll be selling mine off and holding off for a pro 2, because as is the note just isnt meeting my needs.
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I'm confused when people say "have the note writing as smooth as the SP" What do you mean write smooth? Is it you nib that is not smooth because there is a smooth hard nib.
I don't have the issues you write about, is your Note rooted or running something other than stock touchwiz?
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What other stylus work on the note like the s-pen?

The lag that you experience on Samsung galaxy note 10.1 it's the same experienced on samsung ativ smart pro and on the ativ tab 7 and it's there because the Samsung S-note app is made that way. The samsung app is very nice and user friendly ( OneNote is the complete opposite ) but it does have a little lag when you are scribing. Anyway, I'm actually looking for a tablet PC right now and my first choice would be the samsung ativ smart pro or the tab 7 because it can be used with both OneNote and S-note. S-note has some lag it's true but it's more straightaway expecially for taking note on the fly and more important it has a big button to disable the touch screen so you don't have to keep your stylus at 3 mm from the screen in order to have palm rejection ( can't understand why microsoft haven't put a simil function on the surface pro as it basically disable the touchscreen device from the device list via a single button ).
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Galaxy Tab™ Conductive Stylus

I purchased a Galaxy Tab™ Conductive Stylus from the Samsung website, even though their site said it wouldn't work with the GT 8.9 for some reason. As far as I can tell, there isn't much difference in this stylus and all other conductive styluses (styli?). It behaves just like a finger, allowing you to select with the tip of the stylus. The tip is rounded and fat which makes it difficult for fine writing in notepad type apps. I have practiced for a few days and have become fairly proficient at using the stylus to underline in textbooks and word documents. It's also good for signing documents with the right app.
Overall I'm happy with the purchase. The stylus has a good weight and feels like a quality product. I'd definitely buy the stylus again, despite being a few dollars more than the other top quality styluses made by other companies.
I heard that drawing or writing on the tab is pretty abysmal due on the fact that the screen has such a low sensitivity. (like the 10.1)
How is your experience with this? Can you write or draw reallysmall and precise?
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pseudoheld said:
I heard that drawing or writing on the tab is pretty abysmal due on the fact that the screen has such a low sensitivity. (like the 10.1)
How is your experience with this? Can you write or draw reallysmall and precise?
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I wouldn't say it's abysmal. I knew I wasn't getting a WACOM digitizer like I have on my tablet PC, or a stylus as good as the Lenovo android tablet but it does a decent job for what I wanted it for, which is marking up pdf files and maybe signing documents in the future. I added a capture of my handwriting taken at writing normal speed with no special care taken to be neat. You must subtract for my poor handwriting and the fact that the app I used doesn't have very good ignorance of a hand laying down, so my hand wasn't balanced on a flat surface as is the case when normally writing.
thanks for the answer!
will be getting a stylus anyhow so i guess i will see how its like
i just bought a stylus and i must say the screen sensitivity issue is pretty bad.
i tried the stylus with my NexusOne and it produced far better results.
the samsung screen seems slow and unresponsive to handwriting
Any chance it's your ICS ROM? I'm on Overcome ROM and it works pretty well. My wife even decided she liked the stylus with her 10.1 on Task's ROM and I ordered another from amazon.
tried it with both roms.
it just seems laggy and slow. it doesn't get small circles like "e" or "l"
but i messed around in the build.prop and it got a little better. still not what i wanted it to be though...
I agree, it's a bummer because I believe the size is perfect for a small sketchpad :/
If you want to take written notes thought download the ASUS Supernote app, you can find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204931
i would advise everyone to use freenote.
so far its the most complete note taking app i found!
Thanks for the feedback.
I´m in love with this smaller size, but since I discovered how much better the notetaking thingy seems to be with the 10.1" and TouchScreenTune, and given that the dev didn´t offer many hopes at all for the 8.9", I´m torn again between these 2 devices.
Could you please clarify if the "sensitivity issue" is bad enough to affect the proper selection/highlighting of text?
Cheers
andario said:
Could you please clarify if the "sensitivity issue" is bad enough to affect the proper selection/highlighting of text?
Cheers
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nah selecting highlighting is no problem what soever. it is very precise its just when you loop you "L" or "O" that is sometimes doesn't detect it. but for light usage its fine. annotating or highlighting pdf works a treat.
pseudoheld said:
nah selecting highlighting is no problem what soever. it is very precise its just when you loop you "L" or "O" that is sometimes doesn't detect it. but for light usage its fine. annotating or highlighting pdf works a treat.
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Thanks mate, that was very helpful.
I think the sensitivity is great. I use SuperNote on my 8.9 all the time for taking notes. No issues whatsoever and better than many other tablets I tried. Writing with a conductive stylus is smooth (not broken) and easy. Of course the resolution isn't down to what you could do with pen and paper, but that's a fundamental limitation that most all tablets share except for those that are designed with some sort of active alternative. The touchscreens have to be calibrated to pick up our fat fingers so they are relatively coarse. It's really a compromise so you don't have to have a stylus to navigate the interface like the older generation of PDAs used. I think the 8.9 is great with something like SuperNote that can take your writing and shrink it down to a decent size and align it on a line. You should really check this app out if your interested in taking notes because it is really really cool. It's only distributed on asus tablets, but the apk is floating around.

[Q] S pen surface pro 3 comaprision

So I am in a bit of dilemma at the moment I am physicist and I would like to stop using lab books and move to something more electronic to store my notes / plots etc. My main uses are writing notes, making tables, formulas and annotating papers/powerpoints.
There are two tablets which I was considering one as you might have guessed is the galaxy note 12.2 and the surface pro 3. Originally I was considering the surface pro 3 because of its supposed to be the most accurate for the stylus integration. However once I tried the galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition (admittedly I haven't tired 12.2 but I guessed the s-pen integration was the same in the 10.1) I found it almost to be as accurate as the surface pro 3 and I actually found writing on the screen a little nicer, I preferred the resistance (However that might have been due to the rather damaged s pen).
So my question is has anyone done a comparison? or have both? to help me decide. At the minute the Note pro 12.2 is around £389 at the minute and the surface is £549 (at its cheapest) so the note pro is considerably cheaper.
Also just a few other questions, how is the s pen for taking notes? Using this as a lab book replacement I need a good syncing tool, how well does evernote deal with hand writing recognition?. This is the other reason I was drawn to surface was because of OneNote.
Also I just wanted to point out I am not looking for a laptop replacement (although it would be handy when I don't have my macbook with me) ideally what should come first is how good the particular tablet is making notes and keeping my notes organised.
Thanks for all you help in advance.
James
To the moderators, my apologies I didn't see the sticky at the top of the forum, could you please move this to the Q&A section.
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jasimpson89 said:
To the moderators, my apologies I didn't see the sticky at the top of the forum, could you please move this to the Q&A section.
My apologies
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My views on this:
I've had the notes 1, 2, 3 and am currently waiting for the note 4
My son has the note 8
I've also has the Surface Pro 1, 2 and currently have the 3 (and LOVE IT)
I also have a Note pro 12.2
So i consider myself a bit of an experienced expert of stylus driven machines
The first and biggest thing you'll notice about the SP3 stylus is that it FEELS a lot nicer in the hand. Its a normal pen size and weight. This is a pretty big thing... and coupled with the OneNote built in functionality on a windows platform... this thing is sex on your lap.
(OneNote is a *massively* underrated app. I thoroughly recommend you get to know it... to me it rivals Excel in capability)
The Note range of stylus are all compatible with each other AND the Surface Pro 1 and 2. but NOT the Surface Pro 3. the SP3 uses very different technology (not wacom) and Bluetooth linked.
I suspect that if you can handle the lack of 3G connectivity, the SP3 will better suit your needs.
(btw just a heads up, the i7 model of SP3 has some thermal cut out issues, you might want to use the i5 model until MS can fix their thermal issues.)
jasimpson89 said:
So I am in a bit of dilemma at the moment I am physicist and I would like to stop using lab books and move to something more electronic to store my notes / plots etc. My main uses are writing notes, making tables, formulas and annotating papers/powerpoints.
There are two tablets which I was considering one as you might have guessed is the galaxy note 12.2 and the surface pro 3. Originally I was considering the surface pro 3 because of its supposed to be the most accurate for the stylus integration. However once I tried the galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition (admittedly I haven't tired 12.2 but I guessed the s-pen integration was the same in the 10.1) I found it almost to be as accurate as the surface pro 3 and I actually found writing on the screen a little nicer, I preferred the resistance (However that might have been due to the rather damaged s pen).
So my question is has anyone done a comparison? or have both? to help me decide. At the minute the Note pro 12.2 is around £389 at the minute and the surface is £549 (at its cheapest) so the note pro is considerably cheaper.
Also just a few other questions, how is the s pen for taking notes? Using this as a lab book replacement I need a good syncing tool, how well does evernote deal with hand writing recognition?. This is the other reason I was drawn to surface was because of OneNote.
Also I just wanted to point out I am not looking for a laptop replacement (although it would be handy when I don't have my macbook with me) ideally what should come first is how good the particular tablet is making notes and keeping my notes organised.
Thanks for all you help in advance.
James
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Well, since you don't mention needing any real tablet functionality or android specific apps, and you do mention functionality (tables, hw recognition, etc) I would say the SP3 is a clear winner. The horsepower of the SP3 and the fluidity of OneNote with the full desktop version and all of it's capability and the ability to hop into Excel/Word if needed or run as a full laptop in a pinch with the the type cover and built-in stand puts the SP3 head and shoulders above the Note Pro 12.2
If you needed lighter weight note taking along with Android app functionality, and or WWAN capability then obviously the Note Pro would be better.
Admittingly, I also fully agree with everything that has been mentioned here. Not to branch off topic, but I remember in the early years when tablet manufacturers were first attempting to connect with a stylus, there was a lot of heat on what technology would be the better route and what source of code would be the optimal select. Resolve was difficult because everything was desperately needed. People were demanding a tablet that could take notes with unsurpassed accuracy, yet evolve into a laptop with the performance pf a desktop pc while on the go. Now that tablet technology has surpassed multiple revision updates, & mega disasters (that we wont even begin to mention), etc. students are more often found attending class with a tablet, over a pen and paper. Even the lightest high performance laptops rivaled tablets as laptops slowly started their transformation into something new.
Currently retired from some many years of developing multiple platforms and implementing hardware, I have personally achieved quite a wide selection of tablets, laptops, combinations, and hand held portables. Out of the selection my favorite are the Samsung Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 and the Surface Pro 3 512Gb with i7. Between these two devices I feel I have experienced the best out of both worlds. Yet truthfully, when it comes to "Taking notes" I tend to normally reach for the Note Pro before the Surface. However, don't get me wrong. When the roles are reversed, and I need true laptop performance with Power Point and Excel, I will reach for the Surface Pro.
As for the stylus. It really depends on what I'm going to need to do. I feel that both devices stylus's "Feel" great. But if were are defining "Feel" as in the actual way in conforms in the hand. The Surface Pro stylus is hands down more realistic of a feeling than that of my Note Pro's light "tooth pick" stylus. However you can achieve that sexy feel in your hand with the Bamboo stylus if you want to spend a little. Then the real question is again, what do I need to do.
The Note Pro is an excellent note taking machine. No question, no debate. It takes extremely accurate note taking and hand writing recognition to a whole new level. I have never experienced anything better to this day.
Now the Surface Pro is also an excellent machine. OneNote IS truly sex on your lap, so to speak, LoL, with this machine. The stylus accuracy is by far the same as the Note Pro, in my opinion. However this device gives me better performance when it comes to Excel and Word docs. Especially when you need to just hop right in as mentioned above.
In close, I could detail every aspect of each device. However, I feel that your conclusion would mainly depend on what you are wanting to do with it, so I don't want to just say that I like one more than the other and try to prove my reasoning. What I would like to provide you with is the reality of what I look for on a daily basis. That would be hands down the Note Pro. No matter if I'm traveling and need the absolute portability with excellent battery life; hands down the Note Pro. Needing to create, edit, develope, or give a presentation with power point; hands down the Note Pro. When I'm in a hurry and need to find a quick applicable application for something, hands down the Note Pro. When having to fly in and want to grab the latest Metar information while in the cockpit, hands down the Note Pro. Thousands of applications with the most part of them truly free in the play store for any event, hands down the Note Pro.
Again both devices are truly amazing machines, yet I still reach for the Note ahead of the Surface. Weight, battery life, functionality, compatibility, amazing resolution, etc, etc, etc; hands down the Note Pro. I wouldn't change it for anything.
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I'm in molecular virology and do biochem and a fair amount of math on mine. I do lots of reading, highlighting, and annotating in my textbooks. I use lecture notes for quick stuff. I tend to have my logitech k810 for typing out longer stuff. I use the handwriting recognition for my math only. My handwriting is horrible and it's a godsend. The larger screen is what sold me. I kept running into the end of the page before I was done with whatver equation I was working on with the note 10.1. This slightly larger model made it so my work fits perfectly.
The screen looks far better to me on the note 12.2 as well. I find the device lighter. It has better battery life to me, especially when touchwiz is gone and the tablet has been tweaked some.
Depending on the work I'm doing, I use different note programs. Instead of worrying about them all syncing in different ways, I just use drop sync to sync their individual folders and all my notes from various apps and tools are done in one click.
I considered the surface, but because of the extra price being so much more and it only running an onboard intel graphics chip I did not see it worth the extra cash. Minus molecular modeling and high level processing/graphics stuff I have successfully replaced my laptop 99% of the time.
You will need an aftermarket pen. The little dinky thing it comes with will just not cut it. Highlighting and math with it gave me a good cramp after a short time. I bought an aftermarket pen. The bamboo stylus feel carbon and have been happy ever since. The main recommendations for pens are the Bamboo Stylus Feel Normal/Carbon and the S-Pen 8pi
Thanks everyone for your input it is greatly appreciated.
At the minute a still don't know which way I am leaning .
Maybe I should of outlined my situations more in my original post, I use a rMBP as my daily driver so I use that for the office related things and programming stuff and I can't really see myself ever replacing it with a windows machine, linux however this could be an option which pulls me towards the surface pro 3 for dual booting as a spare linux environment and also being able to use zim which is a plus.
In terms of notes made on the note can they easily exported? I would like to be able to search them on device essentially, one reason I was asking about evernote.
How does onenote and the apps for the s pen compare?
Can you now directly pen into evernote using the spen? can you also write tasks out which go straight to evernote?
Also do you guys/gals once you have inked then covert to text? or do you do all your typing using a keyboard? I have an odd pleasure from just writing out my work and it also helps me remember what I have done. The whole reason for wanting to go electronic is so I can easily find something again!
jasimpson89 said:
Thanks everyone for your input it is greatly appreciated.
At the minute a still don't know which way I am leaning .
Maybe I should of outlined my situations more in my original post, I use a rMBP as my daily driver so I use that for the office related things and programming stuff and I can't really see myself ever replacing it with a windows machine, linux however this could be an option which pulls me towards the surface pro 3 for dual booting as a spare linux environment and also being able to use zim which is a plus.
In terms of notes made on the note can they easily exported? I would like to be able to search them on device essentially, one reason I was asking about evernote.
How does onenote and the apps for the s pen compare?
Can you now directly pen into evernote using the spen? can you also write tasks out which go straight to evernote?
Also do you guys/gals once you have inked then covert to text? or do you do all your typing using a keyboard? I have an odd pleasure from just writing out my work and it also helps me remember what I have done. The whole reason for wanting to go electronic is so I can easily find something again!
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So, one thing that no one has mentioned in this is that Onenote is also available for the note pro... so, that point is kidna moot imo...
for your questionn on the note apps, there is a good section in the themes and apps already on this.. several of your options are the LectureNotes as mentioned already, Onenote, Papyrus, Evernote, S-Note, and several other. each of them have their own things that make them "better" than others, so it will be on your to see how they fit with you.. a lot prefer Lecturenotes and Papyrus, some like Onenote, some Like Evernote.. test them for yourself and see how you like them.. Lecturenotes and Papyrus seem to give you more functionalility, but lack some of the exporting.. however, you can easily overcome all this by using dropbox/dropsync and just sync them to whereever.
Ihave the SP2 as well and i just bought the note pro 12.2.. have to say.. i love the note pro wayyyyy more than the sp2.. granted it is not the sp3, so i cant speak to its S-pen abilities.. but, the note pro for me does everything that my sp2 can/will do with the exception of the compatability of a smart card reader that i could use for work.. other than that, i can still easily do all MS docs (excel, pp, word, etc)on the note just as easily as on the sp2..
The screen on teh NP12.2 is jsut wayy better as well. and the size is outstanding and still manages to be lighter than the sp2...
For me, Ican use either the handwriting or a kb.. i personally bought the samsung cover keyboard.. i tried it and the zagg one.. the zagg was a tad lighter, but the samsung one jsut feels so much better to me to type on.. i have larger hands and the keys fit better and just feel better.. it is working great.
the benefit of the Note as well is the android and apps.. you can pretty much do anything on this that you will be able to on the SP with the eception of playing some "PC"games , but the SP is severely lackign a video card, so you cant even really do that well on the SP.. with the note, you can enjoy your time and play the games that are far more abundant for this as well..
I am personally going to sell my SP2 now that Ihave this.. there is just no reason to keep it as Ican hook my reader up to my PC and still do my email at home
Also.. don't quote me on this and i would suggest look it up, but i could have sworn a buddy of mine was talking to me about loading Ubuntu onto the Note?? if I am correct, it runs on a linux kernel right, so i could see this as possibly being true, but i am by no means an expert on this and this is just something that popped in my head when i saw you write that.. so, maybe look into that to get your linux fix
anyway.. hope this might help you some more.. if any questions, feel free to ask
edit... so looks like i remembered right.. check out this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2755962 Ubuntu on the note pro 12.2 enjoy
From my Fired-up Note Pro 12.2!
OneNote on android is awesome, but nowhere near the functionality of it on Win8.1
SNote is *nothing* like the capability of OneNote.
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OneNote on android is awesome, but nowhere near the functionality of it on Win8.1
SNote is *nothing* like the capability of OneNote.
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yeah Ihear ya... but from my understaending, the real reason a lot like it is the synching portion between the tab and the pc... and you can overcome this with just about every other note taking app with some form of dropbox and just synch as well
I used onenote on my SP2 and liked it.. but i DL'd lecturenotes and think i like it even more..you have way more options with it and customizeable as wel... worth a check out
From my Fired-up Note Pro 12.2!

Handwritten notes with the Shield Tablet

Hello guys,
First of all I'm sorry if my grammar or general "english use" sucks but be patient, it's not my mother language.
I would like to ask some help taking a decision.
Let me introduce my needs first:
I'm on the market to replace my old and trusty iPad mini (i know, i know Apple's devices bring horrible nightmares to all XDA users). I'd want a compact tablet (8" to 8.4 screen) that can easily slide in my bag and follow me everywhere, from university lectures to various trips. One of the main function I'd want to improve on is handwritten notes: as it is on my iPad i can't do it and I end up simply downloading professor's slides to read them easier but still writing up to 3000 pages of notes per year, and you know that paper loves to get lost or hide when you need it. Combining it with the constant need of raw power for games i'm left with very few choices, none of them 100% suited for me (unless Samsung decides to include his majesty the S-pen on the Tab S 8.4).
So, coming back to what i'm willing to ask to you, Nvidia Shield Tablet owners: would you reccomend this tablet for hand written notes? And by that i mean: writing on this tablet is almost as fast and comfortable as writing on the good old paper with an ink pen?
If not, what else would you buy, considering that the ability to run smoothly something like Asphalt 8 it's a must have?
Thank you very much in advance.
Matteo
I bought this tablet to replace a Galaxy Note 10.1
I use the Shield Tablet with the MyScript Smart Note app.
Comparing this to Galaxy Note 10.1 + LectureNotes app (My fav at the time of ownership), it's pretty close, but not quite as good.
Writing is accurate enough for me, but not quite as good as the note.
And the smaller screen makes it a little harder to write as well (Worth it for the smaller size to carry around though).
Compared to paper, I think the convenience is way better.
The only real downside there is the lack of friction on the 'paper'.
Even with an invisishield screen protector, the tablet writes a lot smoother than a piece of paper. This is by far the biggest downside in my opinion, but it's easy enough to get used to.
Great Tablet for everything not just writing
DemiosNC said:
Hello guys,
First of all I'm sorry if my grammar or general "english use" sucks but be patient, it's not my mother language.
I would like to ask some help taking a decision.
Let me introduce my needs first:
I'm on the market to replace my old and trusty iPad mini (i know, i know Apple's devices bring horrible nightmares to all XDA users). I'd want a compact tablet (8" to 8.4 screen) that can easily slide in my bag and follow me everywhere, from university lectures to various trips. One of the main function I'd want to improve on is handwritten notes: as it is on my iPad i can't do it and I end up simply downloading professor's slides to read them easier but still writing up to 3000 pages of notes per year, and you know that paper loves to get lost or hide when you need it. Combining it with the constant need of raw power for games i'm left with very few choices, none of them 100% suited for me (unless Samsung decides to include his majesty the S-pen on the Tab S 8.4).
So, coming back to what i'm willing to ask to you, Nvidia Shield Tablet owners: would you reccomend this tablet for hand written notes? And by that i mean: writing on this tablet is almost as fast and comfortable as writing on the good old paper with an ink pen?
If not, what else would you buy, considering that the ability to run smoothly something like Asphalt 8 it's a must have?
Thank you very much in advance.
Matteo
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First of I would like to tell you I faced your problem at the beginning of the year.
I own a LG G Pad 8.3 and a Nvidia shield tablet (NST). The NST is recently purchased so I cannot say its perfect yet when it comes to writing. In my opinion the option of having palm rejection in the NST is delightful which makes writing comfortable. I am currently using Smart note as well but I also use WPS Office (kingsoft Office)--(with the stylus beta app) for handwriting and converting into text if I need something compatible with Microsoft word. The stylus is slippery on the NST I had better control with the LG since I had a screen protector and was using the joint sylus pro which I think is amazing for writing. ( I am actually thinking of adding a screen protector just to use the joint stylus pro with the NST because rumor has it it scratches the screen). The hand recognition in the NST is really good and I think good apps from the play store will give you the experience you are looking for.
I hope this helps, if you have questions I am happy to assist.
sorry if the writing is messy but I got to go for now.
Good luck
FYI I am also in UNI and I do a lot of writing ( recently a 30,000 word document on my lg g pad) so I feel you
OneNote. Just use OneNote. With this tablet, it is by far, par.
Edit: OneNote w/ IFTTT. I'm getting some stuff DONE!
Thank you everyone for the support, now for each answer:
Eogram said:
I bought this tablet to replace a Galaxy Note 10.1 [...] is by far the biggest downside in my opinion, but it's easy enough to get used to.
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So, as I was thinking, the Note family from Samsung is still the best for notes in your experience? Frankly, I'm not a kid anymore (unfortunately) so if I have to choose beetwen "usefulness" and games I have to pick the first to justify the money spent...
Moeali8 said:
First of I would like to tell you I faced your problem at the beginning of the [...] writing ( recently a 30,000 word document on my lg g pad) so I feel you
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The G-Pad was one of my first thoughts having a G3 wich I'm loving (almost), but I'm not sure it is an improvement in practicality over the iPad.
I've seen that wierd stylus and I thought it was insanely expensive, but now I see it's only 30$...Worth it?
Being an automotive engineering student, my notes are all about graphs, schemes and sketches so I need accuracy and predictibility in how the tablet translates my movements as well as a reliable software that ignores palm and wrist inputs on the screen (that's my biggest complain on the iPad).
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OneNote. Just use OneNote. With this tablet, it is by far, par.
Edit: OneNote w/ IFTTT. I'm getting some stuff DONE!
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OneNote relies on the NST stylus recognition or it has a built-in feature?
Side note: the Nexus 9....looks goood another contender? xD
DemiosNC said:
Thank you everyone for the support, now for each answer:
So, as I was thinking, the Note family from Samsung is still the best for notes in your experience? Frankly, Im not a kid anymore (unfortunately) so if I have to choose beetwen "usefulness" and games I have to pick the first to justify the money spent.
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If I was looking for a serious note taking piece of hardware... Yeah, I'd probably go with a note. I would also probably invest in a separate active stylus to use with it. The Note 10.1(2012) came with a pretty cheap feeling one. Light hollow plastic, not fun to use.
What you lose by going that route is a good AOSP-like experience. I don't like Samsung S touch wiz ui at all. And you can flash an aosp rom on it, but the stylus loses some features.
Eogram said:
If I was looking for a serious note taking piece of hardware... Yeah, I'd probably go with a note. I would also probably invest in a separate active stylus to use with it. The Note 10.1(2012) came with a pretty cheap feeling one. Light hollow plastic, not fun to use.
What you lose by going that route is a good AOSP-like experience. I don't like Samsung S touch wiz ui at all. And you can flash an aosp rom on it, but the stylus loses some features.
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I don't have the exact english phrase to say that but I'll translate litterally: seems like you're reading my toughts...
I spent the last 4 years of my life as an Apple fan boy because i was thinking that android was only Samsung...The touchwiz is insanely overloaded so that is my biggest concern about following the "samsung route"...
Anyways, today I took a look at the tab s 8.4 in first person and I have to admit that the display is amazing...Colors are cartoonish but so appealing I can't ignore it...
Unfortunately I'm not able to find a store with an NST to try here in Italy...
I was playing today with the note pro from Samsung and I must say that it is for note taking way better then the nVidia Shield Tablet I own myself although I hate the touch wiz layer. Nevertheless I use one note now on my NST for note taking.
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Congrats
Moeali8 said:
First of I would like to tell you I faced your problem at the beginning of the year.
I own a LG G Pad 8.3 and a Nvidia shield tablet (NST). The NST is recently purchased so I cannot say its perfect yet when it comes to writing. In my opinion the option of having palm rejection in the NST is delightful which makes writing comfortable. I am currently using Smart note as well but I also use WPS Office (kingsoft Office)--(with the stylus beta app) for handwriting and converting into text if I need something compatible with Microsoft word. The stylus is slippery on the NST I had better control with the LG since I had a screen protector and was using the joint sylus pro which I think is amazing for writing. ( I am actually thinking of adding a screen protector just to use the joint stylus pro with the NST because rumor has it it scratches the screen). The hand recognition in the NST is really good and I think good apps from the play store will give you the experience you are looking for.
I hope this helps, if you have questions I am happy to assist.
sorry if the writing is messy but I got to go for now.
Good luck
FYI I am also in UNI and I do a lot of writing ( recently a 30,000 word document on my lg g pad) so I feel you
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First congrats on the Tab S 8.4 and you are right amazing screen, really vivid and nice colors I've always liked Samsung's screens; unfortunately it stops at their screens . But why didnt you take a note if you wanted the S-pen and S-notes. Any way I hope it works out for you. Some great apps are Smart notes which has good hand recognition and lecture notes where I thing would help you with your graphing.
Regrading the LG G Pad 8.3 I'm still using it for standard media consumption like reading and browsing the net while my NST is mainly for games and the occasional web surf if its in my hands. And I'm still using the LG for writing my notes via Kingsoft office and stylus beta has my input method (best hand to text app i've used)
Anyways good luck.

Best Note Stylus

Which is better for note taking:
1 standard Note 4 stylus
2 Samsung's own slim full size pen, see here http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00...10_SY165&qid=1413674258&sr=8-7#ref=mp_s_a_1_7
3 Wacom Bamboo Feel http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00...qid=1413674374&sr=8-2-spell&pi=AC_SX110_SY165
4 Mont Blanc see here http://m.luxurydaily.com/montblanc-...tylus-range/?utm_referrer=direct/not provided
5 Samsung BT S Pen see here http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/samsung-hm5100-bluetooth-stylus-pen-white-p38294.htm
The one that cimes with the device
mgbotoe said:
The one that cimes with the device
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comes*
but i agree 100% no need the factory one is best!
http://youtu.be/vhLPeOoR72k
I'd try some of these if they were about $20
The Montblanc one is going for $600 lmao
KennyCheng0705 said:
The Montblanc one is going for $600 lmao
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Pix option is £235
If it's just to write/draw something quickly, I would say the spen is fine. If it's something taking significant time, then you may want something larger.
I personally have not tried anything other than the spen. I've seen pics and read posts where people modified old pens to hold the spen instead of buying a second stylus pen
Are the old note pens compatible with the N4?
I have the Bamboo Feel (non-note) and it's definitely a much nicer feeling pen (with a much more usable button,) than the S-pen. I've only used it on my Surface Pro though.
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Are the old note pens compatible with the N4?
I have the Bamboo Feel (non-note) and it's definitely a much nicer feeling pen (with a much more usable button,) than the S-pen. I've only used it on my Surface Pro though.
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I'm just using an ampen stylus, and it's a perfect substitute for my finger. Not too pricey, and gets the job done pretty well.
This video was the answere I found 1 year ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFypTlcPutE
I have the Wacom and the Samsung BT Pen. Both work great. I like the feel of the Wacom best.
natsinicky said:
I'm just using an ampen stylus, and it's a perfect substitute for my finger. Not too pricey, and gets the job done pretty well.
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I love my ampen!! Perfect stylus!
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I love my ampen!! Perfect stylus!
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Not a Wacom capable stylus. Not really what we are talking about.
I must say, The OEM S Pen that comes with the Note 4 is fantastic.
I have no gripe with it at all. It is light and I have gotten used to the feel of it.
I use it to write many journals into S Notes, writing material, notes, and the occasional doodle if I have time and ... cough "inspiration"
Awesome stuff.
jah said:
Which is better for note taking:
1 standard Note 4 stylus
2 Samsung's own slim full size pen, see here http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00...10_SY165&qid=1413674258&sr=8-7#ref=mp_s_a_1_7
3 Wacom Bamboo Feel http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00...qid=1413674374&sr=8-2-spell&pi=AC_SX110_SY165
4 Mont Blanc see here http://m.luxurydaily.com/montblanc-...tylus-range/?utm_referrer=direct/not provided
5 Samsung BT S Pen see here http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/samsung-hm5100-bluetooth-stylus-pen-white-p38294.htm
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Cross executive stylus. Too bad they don't make them anymore. I take tons of notes with both the Note 4 and Note Pro 12.2 and carry this stylus with me every day. I bought it years ago to use with a Fujitsu tablet pc.
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This video was the answere I found 1 year ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFypTlcPutE
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Thanks. Where can I get an Note 4 S-Pen holder? He talks about making one at the end of the video.
"Months Blanc, now you too can be that douche." All jokes asside I like the S Pen, it goes back in the phone so I'm never without it, that's nicer than carrying something around I think.

Full Sized S Pen?

Is there any third party S Pen's that are actually fulled sized pens? I'm aware of the Mont Blanc offerings but I don't think they are available atm but have no intention of spending $300 on one.
I use the Note 4 in lectures for school and would appreciate something that could offer a more comfortable writing experience.
I've been looking for one too. Somebody should make one. It is a very popular phone.
SteveCheeseman said:
Is there any third party S Pen's that are actually fulled sized pens? I'm aware of the Mont Blanc offerings but I don't think they are available atm but have no intention of spending $300 on one.
I use the Note 4 in lectures for school and would appreciate something that could offer a more comfortable writing experience.
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You could give this one a try but it is listed for the Note 2 so I'm not sure if it will be fully compatible. If you do try it, please report back
Edit: I also found this one which may be even less compatible from the Amazon reviews but *might* still work.
Well you might find it interesting. But my surface pro 2 pen works with all my notes. And vice versa. Pretty nice.
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Well you might find it interesting. But my surface pro 2 pen works with all my notes. And vice versa. Pretty nice.
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That means its compatible with any wacom stylus? So the pressure sensitivity is functional with the Surface pen?
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That means its compatible with any wacom stylus? So the pressure sensitivity is functional with the Surface pen?
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Yes,sometime it's funny for those wacom stylus with eraser function work well too.
normal for writing/drawing,reverse it for erasing like eraser.
pen pressure base on the stylus level too.
There quite a few compatible ones on wacom's site.
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There quite a few compatible ones on wacom's site.
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http://www.amazon.com/Wacom-CS300UK...1419552707&sr=8-5&keywords=bamboo+feel+stylus
This is the one I have used on my Note 2, Note 3 Note 10.1, Note 10.1 2014, and can use on my note 4. Performs like the OEM stylus and has the button to activate the s-pen functions. Keep in mind that I only use it for writing and not drawing or artwork.

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