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With the new entries into the at&t android scene, will the captivate be left behind by the devs? A couple have already picked up new devices, is there cause for concern?
There will be others who step in, and given that you can run vibrant and i9000 roms there will be new stuff going on. The i9000 forum is really where the action is anyway. If hardcore and supercurio move on then I would say you have seen the end of what can be done with the sgs.
Porting vibrant roms, simple kernel/modem swap? Can it be done before and after flash?
Hope not.
@mccord
Yep, I usually boot the rom then flash the kernel and modem. Sometimes it wont work simply swapping them first.
It already has been abandoned. Jump ship while you still can.
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Yep, I usually boot the rom then flash the kernel and modem. Sometimes it wont work simply swapping them first.
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Solid info, any recommendations? ;p
My point in the thread is this, were will development be in a month, what are our options. I9000 and vibrant ports are solid options. I don't think many understand how easy it is to do on their own
It will carry on no matter what. Browse around. Heck there is still stuff going on with devices that are 5 years old and older. So no it will not ever "end"
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With the new entries into the at&t android scene, will the captivate be left behind by the devs? A couple have already picked up new devices, is there cause for concern?
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The new entries that is rolling out now, IMO, doesn't have the "wow" factor for anyone to upgrade and renew for another 2 years or even 1, yes opinion. I just returned my Inspire cause of it.
The Atrix, we will see. Accessories, accessories, accessories...reach deep in the pocket for it. Not worth it, ....we are just talking about a phone.
Samsung Infuse...oh yea... Neveragain.
I predict 3rd quarter, then "man overboard"
Development for these phone are easy for these devs, as long as leaked firmwares keep on popping up, and they have been. We all should be safe for awhile.
Sorry for the rambling...morning java...strong.
But yea, what newter55 said
I don't know if this indicative of how many people actually OWN a captivate, let alone DEVING...but I often find that next to Android development section of the captivate the number of viewing is usually around 300. There's still lots of captivaters, and I don't think everyone is in a position/able to jump ship.
I don't see why people are so worried, I'm looking into getting a Captivate myself. I know it's no Inspire 4G etc etc. But it's still a relatively new device. I know when I started in the WM6 days, people were still making WM5 roms etc for old devices. You will see people still working on them.
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I don't see why people are so worried, I'm looking into getting a Captivate myself. I know it's no Inspire 4G etc etc. But it's still a relatively new device. I know when I started in the WM6 days, people were still making WM5 roms etc for old devices. You will see people still working on them.
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Not worried, there has been a general distaste towards samsung on this section. A couple major devs have already started work on other devices. They will be back fillef I am sure. Just curious to see what direction things go
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Not worried, there has been a general distaste towards samsung on this section. A couple major devs have already started work on other devices. They well be back fillef I am sure. Just curious to see what direction things go
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Oh of course. I have been away for a long while. The last device I owned was a HTC Kaiser. Been with Blackberry since then. The Rhodium in my sig is my mothers that I tweaked for her.
Why do devs not like the Captivate? I've been looking into getting one to be able to learn Android and be as helpful as I was back in my older device days.
gps, no official froyo, quality control issues,rfs file system
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gps, no official froyo, quality control issues,rfs file system
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Interesting. Funny that you mention Quality control, my brothers brand new Captivate's screen went out under a month of getting it. It's like the screen decided not to turn on one day.
I've wondered this myself. I feel like if development will continue after the next 6 months its going to be on cyanogen... but hey. I'm relatively new to android so take what i say with several grains of salt
If the atrix lives up to the hype ill be abandoning my captivate....unlocked bootloader and its over
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I feel that the amount of work the devs are putting into this phone are making it a great device. I switched to an LG Quantum recently (and love it) But thanks to the joys of owning a sim card, I switch to my captivate at least twice a week. Go to the LG Quantum forum, and you'll see why. There isn't much to do. Not much hacking, no OC's, no UC's, just questions like "What case looks prettiest on my phone?" =/
This even applies to the majority of Motorola android phones, especially MOTOBLUR devices. There just isn't that much to do with them. As for the Captivate, there will always be some random, somewhat useless feature we're all going to go gaga over. ("OMG I CAN TAKE PANORAMA SHOTS.... MUST SHARE WITH XDA...") It's just the spirit of the Captivate forum. We're all in the same poorly navigated, highly customizable boat.
*group hug* xP
Well the origianal droid is about as customizable as the galaxy s it has gingerbread already...and honestly up until recently most of the "custom" roms were just bloatware free versions of vibrant or i9000 versions of TW. Andromeda and serendipity and supernova all are themed giving a feeling of something new and fresh....if we could get some aosp builds then this phone would really be great and we would see some true custom roms.....the devs are what's keeping the galaxy s alive.
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*wonders to self how some people ever figure out how to get dressed in the morning*
Hey guys, I've been using the iPhone since 2007 when they first came out and now I'm putting down my 4S and switching over to the Skyrocket and i'm very excited to do so. I've been on this forum reading up for a couple weeks now trying to familiarize myself with the modding etc. My phone should be coming in today so I have a couple quick questions.
First off, I really want to skip gingerbread and goto ICS but I have never learned an android phone and the workings but it shouldn't take me too long to get used to it. Should I keep GB a while and get used to it then make the switch?
Second, I was thinking about going straight to SKY ICS but it looks like it's not 100% worked out and I do want a fully functioning phone. Should I flash to SKY or pick another more stable build of ICS?
Any suggestions would be great!
I always come back to GB. All the Ics are pretty stable, but I like my bln, kernel tweaks, and 100% working.
There is also a small possibility that the Ics leaks are causing bricks. None that I know of for the skyrocket yet, though. They have been having problems with the note and various other models.
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from just the pure OS's workings i think ICS would be easier to get used to. though samsungs stock ICS doesn't look all that different from gingerbread.
None of the ICS ROMS are 100% stable but a lot work really well and have mostly everything (aside from a few small bugs) working perfect.
I'd say read around for about a week or so on the exact procedure on how to root, install cwm, install roms, and ect. Then when you are more comfortable working with the software and your phone go ahead and flash.
As far as which rom, SKYICS is very fast and very stable, just about as good as you can get with the stock samsung ICS. and it has various speed tweaks as well as S Voice (Like Siri but not as good) from the Galaxy S3 and also the TouchwizUX Launcher.
Theres also CM9 (Which I use) Which, instead of being samsungs ICS, it looks exactly like Stock Google ICS (The one that comes with the Galaxy Nexus)
It is also very fast, and looks amazing, i think much better than samsungs ICS.
And you can also get TouchwizUX and S Voice on CM9 once you get settled in with android and learn how to move apks.
All in all. its up to you. Do some reading for a while, learn everything you can, and then Try as many roms as you like and see what works good for you.
Both are great replies thanks guys. I definitely need to play around with some of the tools and familiarize myself with everything. I need to find the best backup programs/music programs/ etc and get used to those. I have all my contacts from my iPhone synced with Google contacts so I should be able to sync it with my Skyrocket once it comes in. I really would like S-Voice so I'll most likely go straight to SKY ICS once I get better with the phone, I don't want to eff anything up. The iPhone was pie to jailbreak. It looks like there's a bit more things involved with the android phone in terms of rooting/permissions/flashing and so forth. Will have to dig deeper. I've read the noob guide but it doesn't make a ton of sense until I get the phone in my hand lol.
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Both are great replies thanks guys. I definitely need to play around with some of the tools and familiarize myself with everything. I need to find the best backup programs/music programs/ etc and get used to those. I have all my contacts from my iPhone synced with Google contacts so I should be able to sync it with my Skyrocket once it comes in. I really would like S-Voice so I'll most likely go straight to SKY ICS once I get better with the phone, I don't want to eff anything up. The iPhone was pie to jailbreak. It looks like there's a bit more things involved with the android phone in terms of rooting/permissions/flashing and so forth. Will have to dig deeper. I've read the noob guide but it doesn't make a ton of sense until I get the phone in my hand lol.
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Titanium backup, poweramp, root explorer.
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Kevinl86 said:
Hey guys, I've been using the iPhone since 2007 when they first came out and now I'm putting down my 4S and switching over to the Skyrocket and i'm very excited to do so.
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i too am quite happy with the galaxy s2! my wife still uses the iphone4, i call it her "fisher price first touch screen"... makes her so mad.
^ Haha good stuff! Me and my lady are both on 4S right now until my Skyrocket comes in. She is upset I'm getting a new phone already but she will be jealous I'm sure and want one after she plays around with it.
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^ Haha good stuff! Me and my lady are both on 4S right now until my Skyrocket comes in. She is upset I'm getting a new phone already but she will be jealous I'm sure and want one after she plays around with it.
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I dunno, a lot of girls can't give up their iCrap. They just love 'em to death
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I dunno, a lot of girls can't give up their iCrap. They just love 'em to death
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Yeah and I used to be one of those fanboys, I got her into the iPhone. I just think it's time to graduate into something an adult should use and isn't so locked down. I'm getting tired of squinting at the damn 3.5" screen and having to follow apples rules.
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Yeah and I used to be one of those fanboys, I got her into the iPhone. I just think it's time to graduate into something an adult should use and isn't so locked down. I'm getting tired of squinting at the damn 3.5" screen and having to follow apples rules.
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Me too. Didn't know what I was missing. For the girls, it's more of a fashion statement, I think.
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Me too. Didn't know what I was missing. For the girls, it's more of a fashion statement, I think.
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Yeah I'd have to agree with you there. She LOVES her white 4**** to death haha.
I used to have an iPhone and I do like the app ecosystem better, and it does look more polished. But the skyrocket beats it in everything else I can think of. But yeah. Being in high school the iPhone is more of a flashy accessory... everyone thinks iPhones the best. Until I show them what the skyrocket can do of course ;P
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i too am quite happy with the galaxy s2! my wife still uses the iphone4, i call it her "fisher price first touch screen"... makes her so mad.
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LoL that's a good one. I usually refer to it as a smartphone with training wheels.
My wife calls it her Ipaid. But welcome to Droid.
My fiance wanted to pick up the 4s, I showed her the Note and it is has been love since then. I do not think I could go to an OS that does not allow modding, that would be my only hang up with switching to an iOS device for my phone.
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Hey guys, I've been using the iPhone since 2007 when they first came out and now I'm putting down my 4S and switching over to the Skyrocket and i'm very excited to do so. I've been on this forum reading up for a couple weeks now trying to familiarize myself with the modding etc. My phone should be coming in today so I have a couple quick questions.
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I'm glad you finally came to your senses...
Welcome to Android.
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Kevinl86 said:
I have a couple quick questions.
First off, I really want to skip gingerbread and goto ICS but I have never learned an android phone and the workings but it shouldn't take me too long to get used to it. Should I keep GB a while and get used to it then make the switch?
Second, I was thinking about going straight to SKY ICS but it looks like it's not 100% worked out and I do want a fully functioning phone. Should I flash to SKY or pick another more stable build of ICS?
Any suggestions would be great!
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I came from the iPhone 4 about 6 weeks ago and immediately started digging around on the web for info on Android and landed here.
I stuck with 100% stock for about a week before taking the plunge into rooting. Did a lot of reading on here because I didn't understand the terminology (CWM, Flash, TiBU, ODIN, et. al). Once I felt comfortable, I went through the process and had no issues.
Ran like that for a couple of weeks, but the dev section drew me in. Before long I was researching ROMs, and gravitated to SkyICS UCLE4. Read about 20 pages into that thread before chickening out.
THEN I found the ICS 4.0.4 ODIN one-click thread. More reading.... Decided to go for it. Held my breath, re-read the instructions for the 50th time and clicked start.
Worked perfectly. No glitches in the process, no "wth did I just do?"
So I ran with that for another week, but that SkyICS thread was getting bigger, with people raving about battery life and smoothness... like a moth to a flame.
So I spent three days reading all 190+ pages in that thread (or whatever it's up to now).
Just last night, decided to go for it with base 3, update 7 of SkyICS.
I've almost memorized the instructions, BUT it paid off. My SR is running Seanz ROM and I couldn't be more happy with it. Nailed it on the first try - no glitches, no reflash, no problems other than setting the lockscreen wallpaper, which I couldn't give two rats' sh**s in the rain about - and its a known problem anyway. Who cares.
My first suggestion (and one that's repeated ad nauseum here) is read, read, read. Take it slow. Read the instructions for whatever you want to do repeatedly until you really get it.
My "n00b" advice: Get the phone, tinker with it, set it up how you like it, then research how to root it and back it up (your apps, your data, your entire ROM). Make multiple, off-phone backups in case you fudge something. Then learn how to restore. Then TEST restoring to your backups. That's your first hurdle!
Once you have that confidence in your backup & restore process, you'll feel a lot better about looking at the ROMs available and picking the one to suit your needs. Read the feed back, make mental notes, and decide whether the risk is worth it to you.
Personally, I owe seanscreamz a beer or three.
Good luck!
(sorry for the book, but hey, it's my first post here.)
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I came from the iPhone 4 about 6 weeks ago and immediately started digging around on the web for info on Android and landed here.
I stuck with 100% stock for about a week before taking the plunge into rooting. Did a lot of reading on here because I didn't understand the terminology (CWM, Flash, TiBU, ODIN, et. al). Once I felt comfortable, I went through the process and had no issues.
Ran like that for a couple of weeks, but the dev section drew me in. Before long I was researching ROMs, and gravitated to SkyICS UCLE4. Read about 20 pages into that thread before chickening out.
THEN I found the ICS 4.0.4 ODIN one-click thread. More reading.... Decided to go for it. Held my breath, re-read the instructions for the 50th time and clicked start.
Worked perfectly. No glitches in the process, no "wth did I just do?"
So I ran with that for another week, but that SkyICS thread was getting bigger, with people raving about battery life and smoothness... like a moth to a flame.
So I spent three days reading all 190+ pages in that thread (or whatever it's up to now).
Just last night, decided to go for it with base 3, update 7 of SkyICS.
I've almost memorized the instructions, BUT it paid off. My SR is running Seanz ROM and I couldn't be more happy with it. Nailed it on the first try - no glitches, no reflash, no problems other than setting the lockscreen wallpaper, which I couldn't give two rats' sh**s in the rain about - and its a known problem anyway. Who cares.
My first suggestion (and one that's repeated ad nauseum here) is read, read, read. Take it slow. Read the instructions for whatever you want to do repeatedly until you really get it.
My "n00b" advice: Get the phone, tinker with it, set it up how you like it, then research how to root it and back it up (your apps, your data, your entire ROM). Make multiple, off-phone backups in case you fudge something. Then learn how to restore. Then TEST restoring to your backups. That's your first hurdle!
Once you have that confidence in your backup & restore process, you'll feel a lot better about looking at the ROMs available and picking the one to suit your needs. Read the feed back, make mental notes, and decide whether the risk is worth it to you.
Personally, I owe seanscreamz a beer or three.
Good luck!
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I think this story is true for most new android owners who want to do more with their phones. But, like it's only scary the first time. Not to worry it's easy and most of the time painless. Once you have taken the plunge you will be hooked. And like the millions of other flash junkies around the world.... We welcome you. Addiction may require professional treatment.
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Wow thanks guys this is a ton of helpful info! Can't wait to get the phone today and start tinkering. Ive been reading a TON since Monday about everything android so I'm very excited.
Welcome to Android! Thank goodness you don't have to use that dreadful iTunes anymore. Remember, you can change your launcher if you don't like the UI, I use launcher pro, but if you go ICS, try apex launcher. I use the Dragon Go plugin that you can get through the Swype beta( beta.Swype.com) for my SIRI, but there are others. Learn how to install the URL]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1367396 14 Toggle Status Bar. Buy an external battery charger that comes with a couple batteries from Amazon for like $15 bucks, and finally, learn about widgets, your best friend. Good luck!
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Hey guys, apologies if I'm not posting in the best possible section for this, but I've been wondering for a while.
I've been getting sick of TouchWiz. Not just the launcher (I got Nova the moment I could, and am still using it) but the customizations of the phone itself and the small annoyances that Verizon baked in, such as the always-on WiFi indicator. I've been debating going to a stock ROM for a long while, and I've made my decision to break free of the ridiculousness that is Verizon and Samsung's customizations, as they've made the phone slow, and I know it can run much better than it is right now. So here's my question:
What's the best stock Android ROM currently? I'd preferably want one that is
Being currently developed. I don't want a ROM with a lazy developer. (If ROMs are a few weeks late, I won't mind, but I don't want to be waiting forever to get the next .1 added to my version number.
Quick and minimal. Literally as close to stock Android as it can be. If there are things that need to be kept, such as the camera app, that's fine, but I'd like to rid myself of as much TouchWiz as I can.
Free of bugs. I know most ROMs aren't perfect. I'm fine with that. I need something to work as a stable daily driver, and I don't much care to hop on the next nightly I can find.
On the latest version of Android without bugs.
I have experience with rooting and flashing with Odin, but I haven't done it in a while, so if the method to root+flash is more than a one click or a couple of console commands, I'd like to be guided if possible. I have no want to brick my phone, as you can well imagine.
Also, if there's a list of stock ROMs for the Verizon GS3, I'd like to be pointed in that direction, if possible.
Thanks! I hope to hear from someone soon!
Not being rude but, if you were to take the amount of time you put into making this thread and actually looked throughout the forums you'd find a thread already on this or get this, you could go to the development threads and read the ops. Mind blowing right?
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Yeah, I know that. I could surf through bunches of ROMs, but I posted here as a question for community feedback on a bunch of them, that might help me make a decision.
Is asking for opinions and information less efficient than going through a list that's new territory for me?
I'm not stupid. I want advice and info from experienced users. Is that so hard to ask for?
Great thread idea. Surprised no one else has done this.
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You described most of the roms that this phone has. Most give you an option to keep phone stock, Based on each thread, they're all amazing to use daily. As far as being on the latest version you simply have to look at the thread title.
You'll definitely need to go through several threads and try them out to see what suits your needs best. It's not an easy task when there are several awesome developers on your phone!
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You described most of the roms that this phone has. Most give you an option to keep phone stock, Based on each thread, they're all amazing to use daily. As far as being on the latest version you simply have to look at the thread title.
You'll definitely need to go through several threads and try them out to see what suits your needs best. It's not an easy task when there are several awesome developers on your phone!
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Thanks! Didn't know I was delving into such a huge bunch of ROMs. Back in the X and Droid 2 days, I had to surf through a bunch of different ROMs that really weren't reliable. I know things have changed, but this seems pretty extreme.
If you know of any, which ones have you heard are the, well, "god-tier" ROMs? Any developers who are notable that I should check first?
Thanks again!
I wouldn't judge god tier roms, I'm happy to say that all of these roms on this device forum are just as reliable, it's only a matter of how your phone plays with the rom you end up choosing, since all devices play differently. Even if these threads are meant to be locked since they bring nothing but just opinions.
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I will say that there isn't a rom that is the best. It is all about your preference. I have had bad experiences with Synergy,Axis and CleanRom doesn't mean that these are sh***y roms.
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I wouldn't judge god tier roms, I'm happy to say that all of these roms on this device forum are just as reliable, it's only a matter of how your phone plays with the rom you end up choosing, since all devices play differently. Even if these threads are meant to be locked since they bring nothing but just opinions.
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Well, I was just looking for information on the best Roms for the GS3, but since all of the Roms are apparently great, could you list a couple? Even if they aren't "god-tier", are there at least some that fit the qualifications and are well known? I know there's not going to be a "These are the best ROMs ever" list, but are there a few that are highly maintained, or some developers that are well known besides CyanogenMod?
Sorry if I seem new to this whole thing.
Barebones stock is pretty much all I've been for almost a month, and at this point I'm not ashamed to admit I'm a flashaholic, but i only flash his updates (andybones) and the great news is that he keeps the rom consistent in updates and solid Smoot performance.
Also hypredrive just got updated to rls 15 and that's another amazing rom that gets a monthly update and its worth the wait and a very determined developer.
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Thanks! Didn't know I was delving into such a huge bunch of ROMs. Back in the X and Droid 2 days, I had to surf through a bunch of different ROMs that really weren't reliable. I know things have changed, but this seems pretty extreme.
If you know of any, which ones have you heard are the, well, "god-tier" ROMs? Any developers who are notable that I should check first?
Thanks again!
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You should give every rom a go, but you can start testing with Synergy. Try it for a week, and then test another rom
Sorry, "Best" is a term that is subjective and can only be defined by the individual, the post above/before me is a good idea.
XDA is not a support site, users are expected to use and test on their own.
Best Rom Threads = Closed Threads
Something I've noticed is that I slowly become frustrated with whatever rom I'm on, be it cyanogenmod or liquidsmooth, cleanrom, etc. But as soon as I flash back to stock, I remember all the things I didn't like with stock, and want to flash back.
Where is the sweet spot? I find myself jumping back and forth, getting frustrated and tired no matter what rom I'm on. It could just be a personal problem :silly:
But I'm still kinda hoping for answers. For all the people out there who aren't modders, or devs, or who just barely know what they're doing: how do you survive with all the choices, where there's so many unique options of so many devs hard work (each with their own frustrations)? How do you choose?
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Something I've noticed is that I slowly become frustrated with whatever rom I'm on, be it cyanogenmod or liquidsmooth, cleanrom, etc. But as soon as I flash back to stock, I remember all the things I didn't like with stock, and want to flash back.
Where is the sweet spot? I find myself jumping back and forth, getting frustrated and tired no matter what rom I'm on. It could just be a personal problem :silly:
But I'm still kinda hoping for answers. For all the people out there who aren't modders, or devs, or who just barely know what they're doing: how do you survive with all the choices, where there's so many unique options of so many devs hard work (each with their own frustrations)? How do you choose?
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Just a heads up, this thread is going to get shut down quickly, so I'm just going to lead you in the direction I think you want to go. There is no "sweet spot".
AOSP is made for many phones, and because of that fact you're going to miss a lot of features you're going to get from touchwiz that makes the s3 unique. It's fast, smooth, and debloated. Nice experience, but not for everybody.
Touchwiz has a range of different kinds of roms. You have heavily modded ones and some that are as bare as possible. These run drastically different on people's devices, and because of this fact you're going to get people swearing that their rom of choice is the best. However, just because a rom runs perfectly on someone's device, you might not have the same experience.
You choose by looking at the features you want and comparing them to the roms. If you want a heavily modded interface then roms like hyperdrive, goodness or jellybeans would be a good choice. If you want a more bare bones rom then bonestock, CleanROM, or tkrom would be solid choices. If you want a completely debloated experience, then aosp would be your option.
Basically, there is no real answer to your question. Flash one rom, give it a few days, if you don't like it then flash another.
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Just a heads up, this thread is going to get shut down quickly, so I'm just going to lead you in the direction I think you want to go. There is no "sweet spot".
AOSP is made for many phones, and because of that fact you're going to miss a lot of features you're going to get from touchwiz that makes the s3 unique. It's fast, smooth, and debloated. Nice experience, but not for everybody.
Touchwiz has a range of different kinds of roms. You have heavily modded ones and some that are as bare as possible. These run drastically different on people's devices, and because of this fact you're going to get people swearing that their rom of choice is the best. However, just because a rom runs perfectly on someone's device, you might not have the same experience.
You choose by looking at the features you want and comparing them to the roms. If you want a heavily modded interface then roms like hyperdrive, goodness or jellybeans would be a good choice. If you want a more bare bones rom then bonestock, CleanROM, or tkrom would be solid choices. If you want a completely debloated experience, then aosp would be your option.
Basically, there is no real answer to your question. Flash one rom, give it a few days, if you don't like it then flash another.
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One of the things that frustrates me is that I can't solve these issues on my own. I'm trying to learn linux and a lot of basic things like that, but it doesn't come naturally. If I could just know how to fix things, then I'd be happy.
I just learned about flashing radios not a few months ago. Before that I was having a ton of issues getting google voice search and my camera to work, and I didn't know why.
So many people write guides and such, but they never give the deeper explanations. Just the quick, easy answers. Take the one-click root for D2VZW. Does it work amazingly? Yes, I used it earlier today, and it was flawless. But I want to learn more in a way that's doesn't require 200% commitment and prior knowledge of things like how to use the linux terminal.
I don't like being a noob, but it's impossible to learn this stuff on your own unless you dedicate yourself, body and soul...
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One of the things that frustrates me is that I can't solve these issues on my own. I'm trying to learn linux and a lot of basic things like that, but it doesn't come naturally. If I could just know how to fix things, then I'd be happy.
I just learned about flashing radios not a few months ago. Before that I was having a ton of issues getting google voice search and my camera to work, and I didn't know why.
So many people write guides and such, but they never give the deeper explanations. Just the quick, easy answers. Take the one-click root for D2VZW. Does it work amazingly? Yes, I used it earlier today, and it was flawless. But I want to learn more in a way that's doesn't require 200% commitment and prior knowledge of things like how to use the linux terminal.
I don't like being a noob, but it's impossible to learn this stuff on your own unless you dedicate yourself, body and soul...
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It's all part of the learning experience. You can't expect someone to give you answers all the time. I learned so much from not being happy with some aspect of my phone, searching for answers, and applying fixes for my problems.
You can learn anything without dedicating time, you learn as you go along. I was brand new to all of this a year ago, and now I'm able to fix nearly anything that happens to my phone.
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It's all part of the learning experience. You can't expect someone to give you answers all the time. I learned so much from not being happy with some aspect of my phone, searching for answers, and applying fixes for my problems.
You can learn anything without dedicating time, you learn as you go along. I was brand new to all of this a year ago, and now I'm able to fix nearly anything that happens to my phone.
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Just needed to vent some frustration at this lol...
Thanks.
On the bright side I know how to use odin, so I can almost never kill my phone
Sometimes I feel like I need two phones though. One to mess with and one to actually use for being a phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1950824
This is a great guide. Just thought of it and couldn't remember where I saw it but it's worth skimming through.
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Sometimes I feel like I need two phones though. One to mess with and one to actually use for being a phone.
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This is exactly why I haven't flashed a single rom/kernel on my phone since I had it (run debloated stock with a few mods). I need my phone functional 100 percent. I was a flash-a-holic with my OG Samsung Epic, and learned from this that you can't have both variety and function. Do I miss the experience? Sure, but right now I can't afford to have a phone that isn't functioning the way I need it to be. Speajing of two phones: just upgraded to GNote 3, so may finally got to mess around with the S3 once the Note is activated.
SirProudNoob said:
One of the things that frustrates me is that I can't solve these issues on my own. I'm trying to learn linux and a lot of basic things like that, but it doesn't come naturally. If I could just know how to fix things, then I'd be happy.
I just learned about flashing radios not a few months ago. Before that I was having a ton of issues getting google voice search and my camera to work, and I didn't know why.
So many people write guides and such, but they never give the deeper explanations. Just the quick, easy answers. Take the one-click root for D2VZW. Does it work amazingly? Yes, I used it earlier today, and it was flawless. But I want to learn more in a way that's doesn't require 200% commitment and prior knowledge of things like how to use the linux terminal.
I don't like being a noob, but it's impossible to learn this stuff on your own unless you dedicate yourself, body and soul...
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Might I suggest XDA-University to help you learn these things?
I've bookmarked those links. Thanks for the help. I didn't know about the XDA university, since as you can see I'm new here.
If it was shown to us during registration (along with that one video), sorry I missed it.
SirProudNoob said:
I've bookmarked those links. Thanks for the help. I didn't know about the XDA university, since as you can see I'm new here.
If it was shown to us during registration (along with that one video), sorry I missed it.
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The video is probably older than the university...it just opened about 3 months ago.
i'll be honest...I love cyanogenmod and would (almost) die for it...I have found my happy rom to be (Carbon) and while i have no issues with it, i live in a bad signal area...long story short, we don't have Verizon Coverage (Altell) atm...There was a lawyer issue that created a problem back in the seventies and that was just lifted about a year ago...Verizon's towers are being put up everywhere and i can't wait till they are activated...That being said i get data drops in the town i live in and sometimes have better experience on Touchwiz...But i cannot stand being on 4.1.2 and to be honest even though i might have data on touchwiz i can't really get it to work...so...
My experience is that when cyanogenmod in its current state is more honest about connectivity....because where cyanogenmod has none touchwiz has a connection that can't do anything.... If we had touchwiz with the latest android version i would probably be fine with an aosp theme....but not really... xD
I was an Android early adopter and I've carried 6 or 7 different Android phones. After having stability and battery issues with every droid I touched, I jumped ship and have been happily on a jailbroken iPhone the last two years. I felt like tinkering and I haven't touched a droid since they went to multi-core CPU's, so I got an S4. Had some problems that could probably be fixed by flashing Cyanogenmod, but I was so disgusted with yet another Android phone that came to me broken out of the box that I just put it back and was planning to throw it back at AT&T. I've been thinking on it though, and I still really want to play with it, but at this point I'm just risking getting stuck with it if something goes wrong and I can't get it to flash back to stock.
So remind someone who's been away from Android since 2.3, what's out there that makes this better than my 2 year old iPhone 4S? Any other iOS converts care to share what I'm missing? From what I've seen, the battery life is worse, the stability is questionable, and the responsiveness and speed are about the same. As far as apps themselves go, seems like anything on one can be found on the other. Why bother switching from a stable phone?
I'd also be curious if anyone has successfully flashed from the Cyanogenmod Stable back to stock. I've spent enough hours of my life frantically researching flashing issues while my phone is a brick to not risk flashing this phone while I'm still on the fence about keeping it.
Thanks for any input, and please no one scream at me for liking something different than you. I like my iPhone because I can trust it, I don't begrudge anyone else for what they use.
All these questions can be answered with ofsearch at XDA. Please read and follow the rules. We have about a thousand of these already here at XDA. Not to be a jerk but these type of posts clutter XDA when simply sitting down with a cup of joe and reading the forums on a Sunday morning will make for much learning and interest... :good::laugh: