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dev's help in getting MT

guys this is not a question, this is a "plea" for some help...
if one of the great dev's out there would be kind enough to enable multitouch on this rom http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1701190/kb7sqi-magic-full-V2.7.2.zip
i, and many others who use this rom, would really appreciate it
ps: i did pm the dev who cooked it, but he didn't answer, so i thought i take my chances elsewhere..

what ROM is this??

my bad..
its a rogers rom that comes with a flash player enabled browser and other sweets that come with a rogers rom, such as the smart dialer, apart of course from being lightweight, which makes it run smoothly on my 32b G1
more details can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567371

come on guys..is this really too much to ask?

jaikat said:
come on guys..is this really too much to ask?
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patience. devs do this voluntarily at their own time. demanding for features won't really get you anywhere. Especially with 2.1 AOSP being out there now, i'm sure there's a lot already going for them.

Try this: http://lukehutch.wordpress.com/2009/01/25/get-multi-touch-support-on-your-t-mobile-g1-today/
Don't know if it works for your rom since it's originaly made for 1.1, lol.

Thanks for the tips guys..
Unfortunately the above link suggests installing a different rom to get a mt enabled kernel.
Sorry if i sounded pushy. Didn't mean to...
I was just wondering what it takes to apply the mt patch to the kernel thats all

I think you can't just install multitouch on a rom because it needs to be in the kernel. So or you wait the rom builder of your rom includes it in his rom, or you need to try another rom.

what base firmware is this ROM using?
i dont have time to research it

Its cupcake 1.5

kingklick,
just wanted to say that its really nice of you to show interest in helping others.. you must be a really nice guy
thank you

just checking..
i feel like a little kid askin' for candy here...but i don't care
kingclick, was you inquiring about the base firmware here an indication that you'll help out? i really hope so...

You wont find someone to do this. You've cluttered the developers thread with your groveling. You should read up on the methods and do it yourself. Plus, then you could do a lot of extra goodies. If you want something done, do it.

well..
JoelOFH said:
You wont find someone to do this. You've cluttered the developers thread with your groveling. You should read up on the methods and do it yourself. Plus, then you could do a lot of extra goodies. If you want something done, do it.
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you mean learn java and android programming, and in a few months, or maybe a year, i'll be able to do it all myself... sounds like a great idea..
but here's a better one,
in this world we live in, there are specialized and professional people, each in their own field, so when someone "like you or me" need something that is not in our ability or specialty, we seek a professional...
i don't mean to be rude, but this could easily be compared to learning dentistry to do your own tooth...
haven't you asked for any help from anyone in your life?

If you really want MT in browser why not use dolphin or one of the alternate browsers in the market?

mt is missing in the rom itself, the patches were not applied..

You're an idiot and Arabic no doubt.

theorifice said:
You're an idiot and Arabic no doubt.
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wtf?????????

theorifice said:
You're an idiot and Arabic no doubt.
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now thats just not nice at all....little kids these days need a @$$ whoppin

o' my o' my..
theorifice said:
You're an idiot and Arabic no doubt.
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now this is getting real sweet isn't it..
i'll add more sugar then..
no, i'm circassian, and "no doubt" you you have no idea what that means, but here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circassians . do a little reading, it might widen your horizon, and maybe you'd be capable of viewing this world differently..

Android Rom coming out for windowsmobile standard

making a android rom if u want join in u can just message me or replied to this. the rom would work on 3 devices one is samsungjack,blackjack1,2 and the htc snap, an one more sorry its going to be only 4 got carry away.This rom would have htc icons and new different homescreen with a android digital clock like real androids but going to be small and it may be having a new bootscreen thats going to be customize to work on these devices and not harming them the next features it would have is maybe a better quality to the phone ,give the rom htc 3d weather that i been working for quit somtime like almost 3 weeks been working on it and for last it would have is new battery just like my other project i finish yesterday 3/30/10 and new signal icons and much more.THAt why my team needs your help to make this happen for all you windowsmobile standard fans.
If you want to get your htc android on your phone now just follow this link in plz replied of what you think of the improvements that i put into it.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654166

sorry if got your hopes up but the rom wont be starting untillthe beginning of may due to bugs in my other app and working on windowsmobil7series stuff like a app lockscreenand much more.thats why its not going to be develop this month but u cancan help when we start developing it for the devices that i had said.im am real sorry but not that bad working on windowsmobile7seris and working on the htc app/theme u can still enjoy them.

Hi...
Would like to follow you, i have an samsung i600 blackjack and wanted to try android OS on my fone. Let me know if its out and just a curios, will it fully support the hardware on jack? because i know android can not sync to outlook and the only way to syc it is with google.
Thanks, keep up the good work.

othmansuseno said:
Would like to follow you, i have an samsung i600 blackjack and wanted to try android OS on my fone. Let me know if its out and just a curios, will it fully support the hardware on jack? because i know android can not sync to outlook and the only way to syc it is with google.
Thanks, keep up the good work.
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ya it would support the jack if you want to join the team just message me or just replied to this thread and would have videos on my youtube to see where my team progress is at .but note that we didnt start yet we just making ideas and designs for it so it would look right on are phones may take time.
you can enjoy my other apps by looking at my other threads.

julian2596 said:
ya it would support the jack if you want to join the team just message me or just replied to this thread and would have videos on my youtube to see where my team progress is at .but note that we didnt start yet we just making ideas and designs for it so it would look right on are phones may take time.
you can enjoy my other apps by looking at my other threads.
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there will most likely never be "Andriod for the Jack, i617, or i607 or i600". And if it does happen to get developed it wont be by you. Your threads are pointless and you have never provided any info that isnt 100 other places. Stop taking credit for others work. "Your apps"? You have NO apps. Can I get a hooah?

Nottach said:
there will most likely never be "Andriod for the Jack, i617, or i607 or i600". And if it does happen to get developed it wont be by you. Your threads are pointless and you have never provided any info that isnt 100 other places. Stop taking credit for others work. "Your apps"? You have NO apps. Can I get a hooah?
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ok and who are u for saying all this and yes i can be done and u acting like its going to look just like it its going to be similar to the android

julian2596 said:
ok and who are u for saying all this and yes i can be done and u acting like its going to look just like it its going to be similar to the android
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i didnt do nothing to u and u acting like we making it we still dont know if we are still making it because we got to see would this work and right now we are just thinking and designing how we are going to do this anyway and if we do make it just going to have new htc icons a new scroll bar,change the front homescreen buttons to look like htc buttons and maybe change the interface and startmenu to look alittle more good looking and that all we would do.now calm down with all of this.you are like the only annoying person i ever seen if u dont like then leave me alone then im just trying to make my device and other devices look better then it planself and for others who is reading this sorry to anyone

and ya i do make apps just finish it two days ago nottach

What "app" have you created that isn't just other people's work bundled into a single package?
So you want Andriod on your Jack to make it look pretty? So you want an Andriod theme. Not the OS. There's a section here on xda specifically for themes. you should be posting there. http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=525
Are you using Google translate for posting? I probably wouldn't have posted that if you weren't constantly butchering my native language. Your posts are a bunch of incoherent random thoughts. Learn some grammar and punctuation. Even the native Chinese or Spanish speaker's posts are more proper than yours, and you live in the U.S., according to your flag.
You joined Jan 2010 and you've got over 250 posts! And in 250 posts you said something informative maybe twice.
Take your eyes off your phone, stop thinking how you can make it prettier, make the world prettier.

stll looking for more people who wants to join this team to make this rom happen.Already have 4 people so far need 2 more people who are good at designing and a person who knows alot about windowsmobile phones like me but u have to know lot about standard devices thene we would be able to get started on the rom

where did you learn how to develop?

Hey guys, chances are you've seen me post on forums, because I do... quite alot. In fact one of my earlier posts should be right below this one.
Generally in my posts, I make all sort of grammatical flourishes and pretend to know what I'm talking about (I do have half of an idea).
The problem is though, for the most part... I don't.
So my big question to you guys is... where did you learn how to develop? Be it ROMs, apps, themes, exe's, msi's, tar's, or whatever else you guys can come up with? Because Google searches just leave my mind reeling.
Thank you in advance.
Thebeastglasser

thebeastglasser said:
Hey guys, chances are you've seen me post on forums, because I do... quite alot. In fact one of my earlier posts should be right below this one.
Generally in my posts, I make all sort of grammatical flourishes and pretend to know what I'm talking about (I do have half of an idea).
The problem is though, for the most part... I don't.
So my big question to you guys is... where did you learn how to develop? Be it ROMs, apps, themes, exe's, msi's, tar's, or whatever else you guys can come up with? Because Google searches just leave my mind reeling.
Thank you in advance.
Thebeastglasser
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These might be good places to start.
Android Chef Central
Android App Development - From Scratch

you could start off by learning a programming lanuage like VB or even C# its up to you
then when you get better start moving to a mobile programming lanuage C# or java as far as i know.
to make things faster you could get used to a game engine like unreal,unity 3D and others make a few small apps then move to something bigger.
you can google how to learn differant programming lanuages.
what i did was start by makeing small scripts that modded to OS of my computer, CMD, fake CMD virus stuff like that.
you can also find lots of sample projects to look at to see how differant things work

besieger1 said:
what i did was start by makeing small scripts that modded to OS of my computer, CMD, fake CMD virus stuff like that.
you can also find lots of sample projects to look at to see how differant things work
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You wouldn't happen to have any links to those... would you?

http://developer.android.com/index.html is super helpful! Start off by learning the basics. Dont expect to make anything special for awhile...

Looking to Develop Android Applications and Games

Yes, I've already searched the forums. I know there is a guide on here from a developer, but that doesn't leave as much open-endedness as I would like. I'm looking to learn to develop games and applications for the Android OS. I've spent the past week learning Java so that I could learn to develop for Android, but it seems to me that is only the tip of the ice berg. The question I have for you guys is how do I go about learning this stuff? I'm sure most of it is trial and error, but hell what can I try if I don't know where to start?
I know you guys probably get this type of question all the time, but I'm not wanting to take the easy "can you basically code it for me route?". I really want to make the game I have in mind and it's fleshed itself a bit more since I actually learned the backbone of the stuff as well. I've seen The New Boston stuff, but that guy doesn't seem to know what he's talking about. He calls > the less than sign and vice versa. :\

aquaars said:
Yes, I've already searched the forums. I know there is a guide on here from a developer, but that doesn't leave as much open-endedness as I would like. I'm looking to learn to develop games and applications for the Android OS. I've spent the past week learning Java so that I could learn to develop for Android, but it seems to me that is only the tip of the ice berg. The question I have for you guys is how do I go about learning this stuff? I'm sure most of it is trial and error, but hell what can I try if I don't know where to start?
I know you guys probably get this type of question all the time, but I'm not wanting to take the easy "can you basically code it for me route?". I really want to make the game I have in mind and it's fleshed itself a bit more since I actually learned the backbone of the stuff as well. I've seen The New Boston stuff, but that guy doesn't seem to know what he's talking about. He calls > the less than sign and vice versa. :\
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if you are e developer , to learn java (at least the basics) is the step no 1 , and its not so hard
if you have no idea what programming means , then you sould spend time to have some general knowledge about programming.
then you sould try to understand android platform , read general info , read sdk documentation , read about the structure of an android app , and
play a litle with Eclipse. you can find everything on the net. tutorials , code , how to etc.

Start doing tutorials, that's what I'm doing.
Check YouTube for beginning Android programming and stuff like that. Eclipse has some good tutorials as well
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aquaars said:
Yes, I've already searched the forums. I know there is a guide on here from a developer, but that doesn't leave as much open-endedness as I would like. I'm looking to learn to develop games and applications for the Android OS. I've spent the past week learning Java so that I could learn to develop for Android, but it seems to me that is only the tip of the ice berg. The question I have for you guys is how do I go about learning this stuff? I'm sure most of it is trial and error, but hell what can I try if I don't know where to start?
I know you guys probably get this type of question all the time, but I'm not wanting to take the easy "can you basically code it for me route?". I really want to make the game I have in mind and it's fleshed itself a bit more since I actually learned the backbone of the stuff as well. I've seen The New Boston stuff, but that guy doesn't seem to know what he's talking about. He calls > the less than sign and vice versa. :\
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I think you are referring to my guide. You say it "doesn't leave as much open-endedness as [you] would like." What do you mean by that?
The guide is first and foremost written for beginners.. if you have suggestions on how I can improve it, let me know
And I wouldn't call learning "trial and error." It's more of practice and understanding.
You are right in saying "What could I possibly try if you don't know where to start?"
Following a structured series of tutorials at first will start you off on a strong foot.

Rom dev

So I am making a rom. It's written in C++, CSS, and HTML. I need a bit of help, my CSS is rusty so if there's any experts out there I welcome your help. If there's any designers out there well versed in C++ you are more than welcome to join on up. I hope to have a working prototype in the next few days, let's make this the best rom for the OnePlus One there is!

have you tried turning it off and on again?

I am confused. What am I turning off and on again? I just want to make a good rom for this community. I am just asking for help. Please, no jokes. Serious replies only.

I think that there already enough roms from experienced devs... You want to make a rom but don't have the knowledge.

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I think that there already enough roms from experienced devs... You want to make a rom but don't have the knowledge.
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Why discourage someone like that? You don't know him or what he's capable of. What if someone had said that to the developer of your favourite ROM when he was starting out and he listened? XDA is a place to encourage development, and a place to encourage people who want to learn how to build ROMs. There can never be too many ROMs available, and there can never be too many people/devs working on them. This guy could be the next big thing in the ROM community and all you want to do is shut him down. Unless you're going to contribute in a positive way, maybe don't post.
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A lot of Google and this http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Development
All the best.

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Why discourage someone like that? You don't know him or what he's capable of. What if someone had said that to the developer of your favourite ROM when he was starting out and he listened? XDA is a place to encourage development, and a place to encourage people who want to learn how to build ROMs. There can never be too many ROMs available, and there can never be too many people/devs working on them. This guy could be the next big thing in the ROM community and all you want to do is shut him down. Unless you're going to contribute in a positive way, maybe don't post.
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Maybe my words sound to hard on a screen but I don't want to discourage him ?
I'm just thinking that he is underestimating the job... He has 3 posts, needs people to do the majority of the job. Just my 2 cents.
But from now on only positive words, apparently negative is not allowed. Good to know...

Xavierdarkness said:
So I am making a rom. It's written in C++, CSS, and HTML. I need a bit of help, my CSS is rusty so if there's any experts out there I welcome your help. If there's any designers out there well versed in C++ you are more than welcome to join on up. I hope to have a working prototype in the next few days, let's make this the best rom for the OnePlus One there is!
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Umm... Building a ROM is kinda different. You don't exactly have to write all the code yourself (that would take a few lifetimes ). You have to use existing stuff, and patch it together the way you like. You can change the coding style and stuff to the way you want. The CM development page would be a great idea to start with getting familiar with all the stuff.

Xavierdarkness, your enthusiasm is awesome. I'm pretty sure your rusty CSS skills are okay though, but you should really pick up some ActionScript if you intend on making the best ROM.

Dude, write it in machine language....that would be the tits

Thank you all for your kind words of encouragement. It means a lot. I hope to draw on my existing knowledge of QBASIC, VB 6, and HTML to help me on this journey. I'll likely have something up in the next few days if anyone would like to check over my QBASIC to make sure I am getting the API right with android. Thanks again, I'll read all the links you guys have provided and will update this periodically.

superiscch said:
I think that there already enough roms from experienced devs... You want to make a rom but don't have the knowledge.
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there ya go, way to show some support. never enough roms, but always to many self important people

A new team inside XDA of developers will be a good news.
Perhaps learn must be encouraged and I hate people say that there are too many roms... This is not a marketplace but a place for developers.
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Guys on here who work for or run their own ROM teams, why not invite Xavierdarkness to your team and show him the ropes? Looks like his knowledge is there, just needs some nudging...

I'm curious how one would build a ROM from nothing more than C++, CSS, and HTML....if you don't have the Java how will it run android apps?
#stayparanoid

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I'm curious how one would build a ROM from nothing more than C++, CSS, and HTML....if you don't have the Java how will it run android apps?
#stayparanoid
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there are too many inefficient android apps. I think stopping the apps from running is a good thing. more speed! more battery!

cybojenix said:
there are too many inefficient android apps. I think stopping the apps from running is a good thing. more speed! more battery!
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You do realise that your settings menu is an app, your dialer is an app, basically, almost every functionality of your phone is through an app :/

Quasar said:
You do realise that your settings menu is an app, your dialer is an app, basically, almost every functionality of your phone is through an app :/
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of course I know this.
do you realise a dialer, or settings, or anything functional on a device doesn't have to be written in java? *points at TWRP* at the rate they are going, we'll have recoveries that can send/receive texts, and make calls

cybojenix said:
of course I know this.
do you realise a dialer, or settings, or anything functional on a device doesn't have to be written in java? *points at TWRP* at the rate they are going, we'll have recoveries that can send/receive texts, and make calls
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Whoops. Sorry. Sarcasm doesn't work well online
Oh damn! The mobile app doesn't even make RDs/FSM/whatever recognisable. Sorry.

Quasar said:
Whoops. Sorry. Sarcasm doesn't work well online
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try the ^sarcasm^ tags
I know this thread is one massive troll though.... It'd be awesome to actually not use java for Android, at least on the core parts. Oh look, GoLang