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High profile HD videos yet?

Has there been any progress with the tegra2 limitations on high profile HD videos, especially with 3.2 or will this never be fixed?
there are way too many high profile hd videos out there for this to not work on any name brand tablets (except Archos ironically and jailbroken ipad1/2).

For 720p try diceplayer. Works for most MKVs and is the best we'll get probably...

akaria said:
For 720p try diceplayer. Works for most MKVs and is the best we'll get probably...
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is it hardware acceleration for high profile 720p videos?

superflysocal said:
is it hardware acceleration for high profile 720p videos?
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Yes. It is. There's a thread in the app section somewhere where the dev is actively talking to people on xda. It's worth the $4. I play 720P high profile videos often, but it takes either a really good SDcard, or use the internal memory. A slow (aka <10 mbps I think...my 6mbps usd card doesn't play well) card will make it not work. For obvious bandwidth issues.

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is it hardware acceleration for high profile 720p videos?
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Hi I just installed it and it works!
My high profile 720p mkv files are playing very smooth.
But I cannot understand WHY this the DicePlayer is the only player
that can play such files smoothly. Maybe it uses hardware decoding for video and software decoding for audio?

chaykee said:
Hi I just installed it and it works!
My high profile 720p mkv files are playing very smooth.
But I cannot understand WHY this the DicePlayer is the only player
that can play such files smoothly. Maybe it uses hardware decoding for video and software decoding for audio?
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thats exactly what it does.

darkhawkff said:
Yes. It is. There's a thread in the app section somewhere where the dev is actively talking to people on xda. It's worth the $4. I play 720P high profile videos often, but it takes either a really good SDcard, or use the internal memory. A slow (aka <10 mbps I think...my 6mbps usd card doesn't play well) card will make it not work. For obvious bandwidth issues.
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class 10 is 10 megabytes per second... in order for video content to exceed that bandwidth, it'd be 600 megabytes per minute of video, or 36gb per hour of video. Bandwidth is not an issue.
also keep in mind classes are WRITE speeds, not read, read is almost always faster than write.

I can't get the demo to play without sticking after a few seconds. Tried various 720p MKV's. Running off a class 6 MicroSD.

I tried this and now about 1/2 to 3/4 of my 720p files can be played smoothly.
Wondering though, the ones that do play, have a slight pixelated appearance to them, I was dissapointed in its visual appearance. I don't think its related to this player but the Tf in general? Perhaps bitrate is not high enough and that's why it was able to play?
The thing is if I play this on my archos 70 or ipad1 with XBMC, the picture quality is perfect, HD looking.
Anyone noticing this?

I find that curious as well. Noticed the same thing which wonders me since 720p should be mapped 1:1 on the transformer screen. But you can really notice the difference to a (baseline) encoded 1080p Video!

Can Dice Player play movies from NAS drive? And if you need thread about dice I think it is this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16273817#post16273817

superflysocal said:
I tried this and now about 1/2 to 3/4 of my 720p files can be played smoothly.
Wondering though, the ones that do play, have a slight pixelated appearance to them, I was dissapointed in its visual appearance. I don't think its related to this player but the Tf in general? Perhaps bitrate is not high enough and that's why it was able to play?
The thing is if I play this on my archos 70 or ipad1 with XBMC, the picture quality is perfect, HD looking.
Anyone noticing this?
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I played Rango in a 720P DiVXHD the other day (in MoboPlayer I believe), and I was really impressed with the quality (playing over the network nonetheless)... I'l have to go back and try it again and really pay attention to the visual quality of it. Overall though, I thought it looked great, and noticeably better than any of the 480p videos I play on it.

When I was saying that video playback gets stuck I meant I was using the Diceplayer 3 day trial version. Everything I played that contained a AC3 or DTS track caused the video to freeze after a few seconds of playback. FF a bit and it plays then freezes again.

deadman3000 said:
When I was saying that video playback gets stuck I meant I was using the Diceplayer 3 day trial version. Everything I played that contained a AC3 or DTS track caused the video to freeze after a few seconds of playback. FF a bit and it plays then freezes again.
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Because the player is only using the cpu to decode the ac3 audiostream. Combine this with the load from the video-decoding and there is not enough cpu power. Even at 1500Mhz i have not enough power for all my mkvs.

I tend to forget that when I ran a 2.4Ghz AMD CPU on my desktop the highest res I could play were 720p MKV's most of the time. I am guessing some sorta hardware acceleration needs to be achieved in the codecs for it to play them smoothly?

I recorded a Full HD MP4 video with my Samsung Galaxy S2, where I can play back it absolutely smoothly. Then I copied it to my TF's internal SD card and it stutters like hell with the same player.
I would never have expected this, because both devices should have pretty similar performance hardwarewise.

Aymara said:
I recorded a Full HD MP4 video with my Samsung Galaxy S2, where I can play back it absolutely smoothly. Then I copied it to my TF's internal SD card and it stutters like hell with the same player.
I would never have expected this, because both devices should have pretty similar performance hardwarewise.
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Full HD is not good.
Tegra 2 only supports Baseline for Full HD. You should check the video and which profile it has.

sontin said:
Full HD is not good.
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But it should be. If you search Google for "Tegra 2 Full HD Video" you'll find several hints, that it should work like a charm, like in THIS product presentation video. I wonder, which player they are using in this demo.

Aymara said:
But it should be. If you search Google for "Tegra 2 Full HD Video" you'll find several hints, that it should work like a charm, like in THIS product presentation video. I wonder, which player they are using in this demo.
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Tegra 2 is able to play Full HD but (and this is a big but) only Baseline Profile.
And that's the problem: Baseline is dying which makes Full HD on Tegra 2 a useless feature.

I think it's this device/Honeycomb. I had no issues playing main profile with B-frames (no CABAC/Weighted-P or B-frames) on my Elocity A7 (Froyo). Same files do not play on Transformer.
I could never get CABAC to work, but even 2.35 cropped 1080p files played.
I'm really impressed that Dice can do mkv. It's very computationally intensive as far as containers go. Might have to give it a try.
Something's jacked up and one day it will magicly fix itself.
The main info thread said that 3.2 was supposed to have better media support. What works better?

[Q] Sending my TF back :(

Well, had the thing for a few weeks, and I just can't find a reason to keep it. I wanted to stream videos from the net - but I can't as it stutters and doesn't play 720p smoothly at all (Not Youtube), and the amount of tablet software is pretty woeful to be honest.
Unless someone can persuade me to keep it, I will have to say byebye... and I am quite sad about that
And no... I'm not getting an iPad either

Do some searching, this question comes up all the time.
My 2 cents is that if you want a table for playing videos the iPad2 is your best choice.

You will have to wait but for video the archos tabs seem to be really good and they are easily unlockable. The next generation is gonna be released soon and the specs look good.

Kaltern said:
Well, had the thing for a few weeks, and I just can't find a reason to keep it. I wanted to stream videos from the net - but I can't as it stutters and doesn't play 720p smoothly at all (Not Youtube), and the amount of tablet software is pretty woeful to be honest.
Unless someone can persuade me to keep it, I will have to say byebye... and I am quite sad about that
And no... I'm not getting an iPad either
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Have you updated to latest firmware?
720p works fine. Mkv with ac3 audio won't play audio in stock player but will in moboplayer or dice player.

jerrykur said:
Do some searching, this question comes up all the time.
My 2 cents is that if you want a table for playing videos the iPad2 is your best choice.
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I am not disparaging the ipad, it is a very well built device that IF it does what you want is a great choice, however you're recommending it for 720p playback when it doesn't even have a 720p display.

I don't want an iPad mainly due to lack of Flash - I have various sites I use with flash video streaming and the TF simply cannot play any of them - and I have rooted and tried Revolver 2.1.2, which is great - but makes no difference to flash videos.
MKV video plays fine btw - that's not what I was after
I'm thinking the next gen of tablets may be worth waiting for - the current crop simply are not up to the task - and simply seem to be made to contend with the iPad 2 - which isn't exactly a great choice anyway.

mine streams fine, better than my ipad, i watch tv shows and films no problem over wifi, even on a slow 1mb connection, try istreamnet.net and see if they stream using the standard player.

Kaltern said:
I don't want an iPad mainly due to lack of Flash - I have various sites I use with flash video streaming and the TF simply cannot play any of them - and I have rooted and tried Revolver 2.1.2, which is great - but makes no difference to flash videos.
MKV video plays fine btw - that's not what I was after
I'm thinking the next gen of tablets may be worth waiting for - the current crop simply are not up to the task - and simply seem to be made to contend with the iPad 2 - which isn't exactly a great choice anyway.
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if what you are having an issue with is flash video then I would suggest installing the hack that enables hardware acceleration. A quick search will turn it up. Flash is pig, it's nice to have support for it but flash is really suited only for real PCs and it will never be a real priority for tablets.

720p mkvs and ICS

so i was hoping that ICS would fix all the mkv issues since on my galaxy nexus every mkv i have plays perfectly.
but sadly that is not the case. MX and BS players are the best and only lag when theres a lot of things going on, like the final battle in thor.
anyway, my mkvs are all that high baseband or whatever, and i haven't bothered redoing them, or trying to convert them because i was hoping that ICS would actually allow them to play.
now that it hasn't, i guess it's finally time to convert them all so i can play them.
so i'm asking for help for a program that will allow me to convert all of these so that they can actually play on the transformer, but without any loss of quality, or any increase in file size. currently they're all around 7GB.

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This is probably not the exact answer you're looking for but you can read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825
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Use DicePlayer, supports hardware decode
Sent from Galaxy Nexus (GSM)

@curti: not sure if that will do what i want, but i'll give it a shot. i'll try anything at this point.
@nxt: DicePlayer is unable to play high profile 720p mkvs on the transformer without lag. This is true in all versions of honeycomb and in ICS. and ICS makes it even worse. Only players that are even somewhat watchable are MX and BS, and both still lag.

quick smart arse answer- stop whining, recode your goddam videos and accept the fact that the Tegra 2 chip is and always will be underpowered to play mkv's.
question: who the hell wants to play mkv's on a 10inch tab anyway, get a TV.

bob dylan said:
quick smart arse answer- stop whining, recode your goddam videos and accept the fact that the Tegra 2 chip is and always will be underpowered to play mkv's.
question: who the hell wants to play mkv's on a 10inch tab anyway, get a TV.
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if you bothered to even read my original post, i asked how to recode them.
And i want to play mkvs on a 10 inch tab because i can't carry around a tv to school or on an airplane, and my tab has an HDMI out that i can plug it into a TV to play said videos.

also make sure you have the tegra 2 plugin for dice player, works fine for avi and mkv on ICS.

I use xenonmkv to transcode. It leaves the video alone but repacks the video and audio in a mp4 format. More tegra2 friendly.

720p mkv should play natively on ics as of now.I got them playing though I encountered an issue with audio not working with the stock app.

@bob dylan: i have the tegra2 plugin installed. dice lags so bad everything is unwatchable.
@pongo: sounds like an idea. any changes in file size? my mkvs are around 7gb, i don't want them to get any bigger.
@DarkLG: not sure how your able to play them, myself and many others are unable to get them to work properly on any player.

Use handbrake to recode ur vids , soo many options so i betting ull find 1 that works for you
ive been using the high profile option in handbrake and i havnt had a issuse yet..

Ligerblue said:
Use handbrake to recode ur vids , soo many options so i betting ull find 1 that works for you
ive been using the high profile option in handbrake and i havnt had a issuse yet..
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that defeats the purpose of this thread.... even a Galaxy S1 can decode high profile 720p MKV with dice player and stock, there should absolutely be NO reason why a asus transformer on a duo-core can't process 720p mkvs when a single core can.
encoding a video takes too much time and it shouldn't be necessary.

zephiK said:
that defeats the purpose of this thread.... even a Galaxy S1 can decode high profile 720p MKV with dice player and stock, there should absolutely be NO reason why a asus transformer on a duo-core can't process 720p mkvs when a single core can.
encoding a video takes too much time and it shouldn't be necessary.
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actually zephik, my original post was asking how to reencode them to get them to work. so he was right in what he said.
I do agree with you though, there is no reason why the transformer can't do it other than issues in honeycomb and ICS. my galaxy nexus can play even do 1080p videos without any issues, but i'd much rather watch things on a 10" screen instead of a 4.6"

zephiK said:
there should absolutely be NO reason why a asus transformer on a duo-core can't process 720p mkvs when a single core can.
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neok44 said:
I do agree with you though, there is no reason why the transformer can't do it other than issues in honeycomb and ICS. my galaxy nexus can play even do 1080p videos without any issues, but i'd much rather watch things on a 10" screen instead of a 4.6"
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Why the hell you keep comparing Tegra 2 with Nexus's TI OMAP cpu assisted with PowerVR GPU? Despite same Cortex-A9 "base" architecture those are totally different CPU/GPU systems. All you see is that marketing bull**** with "CORES! Ghz!"?!
Tegra 2 is missing SIMD-instructions block needed to succesfully decode high profile/high bitrate h264 video in hardware accelerated mode. And you have nothing to do with it. Point.
And talking about high bitrate - 7GB sized videos looks like 9-10Mbps video stream for regular 1h40m movies. Thats way too high for Tegra2. Its upper limit is somewhere near 5Mbps. And preferable Main Profile encoded.
But if you want - you can continue complaining and comparing your TF with nexus or whatever you want. Thats pointless.
So the bottom line is - reencode.
You can find Handbrake profile on this forum, for example. Or try to find best acceptable settings yourself.

justmara said:
Why the hell you keep comparing Tegra 2 with Nexus's TI OMAP cpu assisted with PowerVR GPU? Despite same Cortex-A9 "base" architecture those are totally different CPU/GPU systems. All you see is that marketing bull**** with "CORES! Ghz!"?!
Tegra 2 is missing SIMD-instructions block needed to succesfully decode high profile/high bitrate h264 video in hardware accelerated mode. And you have nothing to do with it. Point.
And talking about high bitrate - 7GB sized videos looks like 9-10Mbps video stream for regular 1h40m movies. Thats way too high for Tegra2. Its upper limit is somewhere near 5Mbps. And preferable Main Profile encoded.
But if you want - you can continue complaining and comparing your TF with nexus or whatever you want. Thats pointless.
So the bottom line is - reencode.
You can find Handbrake profile on this forum, for example. Or try to find best acceptable settings yourself.
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i think the reason why people, myself included, assumed that is because the tegra2 was being shown off as being capable of playing HD video, which, it is, but just not all hd video, and not the most common form of it, in the high profile.
i do thank you for giving a technical reason though. i had always been under the impression that the tegra is simply the most powerful out there, when i got my Gnex, that was proven very wrong.
i've been looking into the reencoding, as well as reripping. and thanks to a few good posters i have some good setups. Now just to setup my laptop and hopefully that will be powerful enough so it doesn't take 20 hours to do one movie.

is this good/bad for streaming game?

hello there. Is ASUS tf 101 capable of streaming games (using limelight for example) smoothly? I'm thinking to buy a IPEGA 9023 controller since it can fit Asus tf 101 perfectly,but I wonder if Asus tf 101 itself is good enough to stream games. since I upgraded into katkiss 4.4.3 I have been having issues with youtube videos (lag) so maybe it's not strong enough to stream games?

Short answer is no.
I tried using mine for this purpose and it's far from being decent, even at 720p @30fps. The decoding delay is about 400ms on top of a lot of stuttering and dropped frames/packets. It's impossible to play any action games. Not sure why or if it can be improved, but sadly it does not work well.
As a comparison, my nexus 4 can handle [email protected] fps fine and can somewhat do [email protected], going to 60fps it cannot keep up either. You also need a serious router to handle it as well, 5GHz band and very close to it.

The Galaxy S8 Destroys The Dolphin Emulator

Just installed Dolphin on one of the Target demo units, and I am beyond surprised at how well it performs. The S7 didn't even come close to this. Not by a long shot. Check it out!

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Just installed Dolphin on one of the Target demo units, and I am beyond surprised at how well it performs. The S7 didn't even come close to this. Not by a long shot. Check it out!
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Video doesn't work.

pedodroid said:
Video doesn't work.
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Had an issue with the first video, link is fixed but it will take about an hour for the video to finish re-uploading.

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Had an issue with the first video, link is fixed but it will take about an hour for the video to finish re-uploading.
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:good:

Cool! Dolphin has been my daily driver for a long time...

The video still isn't working...

You can watch the video on youtube. just search for S8 dolphin emulator. It runs realy good on the S8!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu1oDLTuL-k

Side note: How old does that S7 look already?

Pretty cool! Thanks for the share.

hey great vid. I tried running dolphin 5.0-3609 on my s8+ international but its super slow. any particular setting changes? or is it because its not using snapdragon? Thanks

Exynos version doesn't have driver support. Look at Dolphin's twitter account, they explained why it doesn't work.
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So am I reading this correct and seeing that snapdragon on THIS emulator will perform better then Exynos?

I don't know, I have the snapdragon version and it's incredibly glitchy on the few games I've tried.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7PsfCsi_Yk
Mali G71 is very powerful but not optimized enough
I hope future custom rom can do something regarding that issue.

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Exynos version doesn't have driver support. Look at Dolphin's twitter account, they explained why it doesn't work.
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thanks for the heads up. do you have a link? thank you
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https://twitter.com/Dolphin_Emu/status/855366890276794369 twitter link if anybody wanted to read

I think the OP of this was excited and exaggerated the results, or jumping to conclusions. I have tested Dolphin with different settings on two S8+ devices with same results. Games start out playing smooth and then a few minutes to ten minutes later, stutter starts due to throttling. I would LOVE the 835 chipset in the Shield TV, since blows the X1 away for performance. Just needs the fan and better heat dissipation a set-top box provides. I tested Mario Kart, Need For Speed, Mario Galaxy, Mortal Kombat Deception, Soul Calibur 2, Smugglers Road, ATV 2, Crash Racing, F-Zero, Burn Out Racing 2, etc. Same result: Starts out playing smooth and then stuttering shortly afterwards. Did not matter with newer versions, resolution settings, clock, etc. I have been testing since launch of the 8+, so a lot of time (too much really).
The S8 / 835 with Dolphin is basically a five to ten minute wonder. Would have been cool if smoothness lasted longer. The good news is intense games that are stuttery messes on the 820/821 are smooth on the 835 in MAME 139. Dead Or Alive + and Plasma Sword are examples. Smooth with no throttling like with Dolphin.

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I think the OP of this was excited and exaggerated the results, or jumping to conclusions. I have tested Dolphin with different settings on two S8+ devices with same results. Games start out playing smooth and then a few minutes to ten minutes later, stutter starts due to throttling. I would LOVE the 835 chipset in the Shield TV, since blows the X1 away for performance. Just needs the fan and better heat dissipation a set-top box provides. I tested Mario Kart, Need For Speed, Mario Galaxy, Mortal Kombat Deception, Soul Calibur 2, Smugglers Road, ATV 2, Crash Racing, F-Zero, Burn Out Racing 2, etc. Same result: Starts out playing smooth and then stuttering shortly afterwards. Did not matter with newer versions, resolution settings, clock, etc. I have been testing since launch of the 8+, so a lot of time (too much really).
The S8 / 835 with Dolphin is basically a five to ten minute wonder. Would have been cool if smoothness lasted longer. The good news is intense games that are stuttery messes on the 820/821 are smooth on the 835 in MAME 139. Dead Or Alive + and Plasma Sword are examples. Smooth with no throttling like with Dolphin.
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Is this still true in July 2017? Saw a bunch of videos where it appears it is working, but they might also be just "5-10 minutes" wonder. Just checking to see if anything has changed in nearly 2 months.
Thanks!