Is there any way to get ubuntu working without using nvflash?
And why is SBK v2 Bootloader locked?
Is anyone working on unlocked SBK V2 Bootloader?
Hi!
I want to know that as well actually. And I've got another question. I've got a B90 transformer, and I really want to get ubuntu, or any other linux distro working on it. So I researched a lot, and I found something that can install ubuntu in any android device, like a virtual machine, called chrooted or something... Can anyone confirm that or give me any directions to follow about that? Thanks everyone!
Old bootloader is also locked. The only difference is we know the key. Someone from ASUS leaked it. And probably no one is working to crack/unlock new one.
There might be a way to resize 16GB partition and then use dd to copy ubuntu into new partition and linux kernel into recovery. But it can brick your device and you won't be able to recover at all.
As for using chroot, I tried it and it's wasn't comfortable to use. It's ok for running ubuntu console programs, but all GUI stuff is slow, because it uses VNC.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1254283
You can try to follow this or similar guide. I followed one for random android phone. (can't remember which) Guide is for installing debian, but they are very similar. Ubuntu is based on debian. Debian usually works much faster with less bloat.
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Old bootloader is also locked. The only difference is we know the key. Someone from ASUS leaked it. And probably no one is working to crack/unlock new one.
There might be a way to resize 16GB partition and then use dd to copy ubuntu into new partition and linux kernel into recovery. But it can brick your device and you won't be able to recover at all.
As for using chroot, I tried it and it's wasn't comfortable to use. It's ok for running ubuntu console programs, but all GUI stuff is slow, because it uses VNC.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1254283
You can try to follow this or similar guide. I followed one for random android phone. (can't remember which) Guide is for installing debian, but they are very similar. Ubuntu is based on debian. Debian usually works much faster with less bloat.
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Hmm is there any chance, that the new keye gets leaked too?
The Prime key got leaked aswell if i am right?
Furthermore, i heard someone from Androidroot.mobi, was working on that problem. Someone knows if they still work on it? And maybe whats the last status of this project?
EDIT: It sucks, all new transformers will have this problem and wont be able to use ubuntu.
Kryston said:
Hmm is there any chance, that the new keye gets leaked too?
The Prime key got leaked aswell if i am right?
Furthermore, i heard someone from Androidroot.mobi, was working on that problem. Someone knows if they still work on it? And maybe whats the last status of this project?
EDIT: It sucks, all new transformers will have this problem and wont be able to use ubuntu.
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Prime's key was never leaked. ASUS released bootloader unlock tool that also: voids warranty and prevents from receiving OTA updates.
I would wait and see how this http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android turns out. Hopefully they will release souce-code.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQozs5tXxwY
I need help making a rom.
I followed a guide and ended up bricking.
Trying to build new rom for Coby Kyros MID7012 tablet and really dont want to screw up
First I need to know can I use an sdk image for the tablet?
Second What in a rom can brick it so I can avoid my fourth android loss.
Greetings all and thanks for any help offered.
I come from the world of pcs. I have several android devices, however have never tried to dive into the deeper workings of them. I am used to the pc world where if you want to install a new operating system you go buy or down load it then you install in. Brand of pc did not matter nor did the model. So I guess I am having a hard time understanding the concept of hardware specific roms. Can't I just get a stock kit kat rom and install it, and if not why not.
on another note does a stock kit kat rom even exist? All I find are things like cyanogen mod, or clockwork mod. I assume that these are essentially someone taking kitkat and adding stuff to it to customize it and then naming it.
I am looking to make a kindle fire hd look and feel like a nexus 7 with nothing but android 4.2.2 (or what even the number sequence is for the lates version of kitkat).
Thanks again for your replies
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Greetings all and thanks for any help offered.
I come from the world of pcs. I have several android devices, however have never tried to dive into the deeper workings of them. I am used to the pc world where if you want to install a new operating system you go buy or down load it then you install in. Brand of pc did not matter nor did the model. So I guess I am having a hard time understanding the concept of hardware specific roms. Can't I just get a stock kit kat rom and install it, and if not why not.
on another note does a stock kit kat rom even exist? All I find are things like cyanogen mod, or clockwork mod. I assume that these are essentially someone taking kitkat and adding stuff to it to customize it and then naming it.
I am looking to make a kindle fire hd look and feel like a nexus 7 with nothing but android 4.2.2 (or what even the number sequence is for the lates version of kitkat).
Thanks again for your replies
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Same question i also want to ask...... they say android is open source.....where can i find the original kitkat
...and can i flash it to my device or not.......why does every phone/tab model need specific rom version.....
I think ram and cpu are enough......what is the deference between all device....
Hesperian9x said:
Greetings all and thanks for any help offered.
I come from the world of pcs. I have several android devices, however have never tried to dive into the deeper workings of them. I am used to the pc world where if you want to install a new operating system you go buy or down load it then you install in. Brand of pc did not matter nor did the model. So I guess I am having a hard time understanding the concept of hardware specific roms. Can't I just get a stock kit kat rom and install it, and if not why not.
on another note does a stock kit kat rom even exist? All I find are things like cyanogen mod, or clockwork mod. I assume that these are essentially someone taking kitkat and adding stuff to it to customize it and then naming it.
I am looking to make a kindle fire hd look and feel like a nexus 7 with nothing but android 4.2.2 (or what even the number sequence is for the lates version of kitkat).
Thanks again for your replies
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Getting a new OS (in this case we call these OS's: ROMs) on android is a little similar to PC installation it just has a few things we have to get past. so if you know what Linux is (another OS its almost like OSX for macs) that's what android is built upon the only problem is is that we don't have Admin access or in other words, super user, rooting your Android device gives you root/admin/SuperUser Access so there are lots more things you can customize about your device in this case a New operating system. Clockworkmod is almost like booting into your Bios on a computer, its pretty much a fail-safe if we break something or want to install (our way of installing is called "Flashing") a mod or a new OS.
Now there are a few different types of ROMs its all the personal preference on what you want most roms are AOSP which is pretty much Stock android (Nexus phones/tablet look) with a few mods here and there. Cyanogenmod is one of the type of roms as well (most popular), its is basically pure android with a little here and there stuff that you wouldn't need to worry about and i would recommend if you do flash a new ROM on any device i would start with Cyanogenmod first if its available, it has the most work put into it and is stable for the most part. (not that other ROMs developers don't put hard work into their own ROMs but still Cyanogenmod is getting bigger and bigger) be advised that flashing a new rom deletes all of your data, its just what we have to do to make the rom install properly, if you bought kindle books you can still get the books back by downloading the kindle fire app on the play store when you do get a new ROM. WARNING: DO NOT Flash roms that are for other devices, it will brick your tablet making it unrecoverable.
Seeing that the kindle fire hd is a very popular tablet and does have a few kitkat roms. (Android 4.2.2 is Jelly bean, Android 4.1 - 4.3 is jelly bean as well, Android 4.4 is kitkat) so pretty much it looks like the kindle fire hd has a locked bootloader which can be a problem but seeing that there is custom roms it must have been unlocked. a locked bootloader pretty much means we cannot flash a new OS but we are still able to root it. so pretty much see herehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hd (there are two kindle fire HD's 7" and a 8.9" which is yours?) ask in the Q&A where you can start, i imagine you would need to do this stuff in this order: Unlock bootloader, Root the tablet, install a custom recovery (like Clockworkmod or TWRP) Wipe Data/Factory reset, Wipe Cache (these two actions are done in your recovery) flash a new Rom.
If you have any other questions or i left something out please ask
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Killwish said:
Same question i also want to ask...... they say android is open source.....where can i find the original kitkat
...and can i flash it to my device or not.......why does every phone/tab model need specific rom version.....
I think ram and cpu are enough......what is the deference between all device....
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Do you have a kindle fire HD as well? Android is sorta open source sure we can root it and install new OS's and other mods but Google allows OEMs can lock boot-loaders and cause awful lot of mess by not letting us developers do anything. You CANNOT flash a rom that is not for your device, it has to do with the other Devices Specs.
why does every phone/tab model need specific rom version.....
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what do you mean here?
Trozzul said:
Getting a new OS (in this case we call these OS's: ROMs) on android is a little similar to PC installation it just has a few things we have to get past. so if you know what Linux is (another OS its almost like OSX for macs) that's what android is built upon the only problem is is that we don't have Admin access or in other words, super user, rooting your Android device gives you root/admin/SuperUser Access so there are lots more things you can customize about your device in this case a New operating system. Clockworkmod is almost like booting into your Bios on a computer, its pretty much a fail-safe if we break something or want to install (our way of installing is called "Flashing") a mod or a new OS.
Now there are a few different types of ROMs its all the personal preference on what you want most roms are AOSP which is pretty much Stock android (Nexus phones/tablet look) with a few mods here and there. Cyanogenmod is one of the type of roms as well (most popular), its is basically pure android with a little here and there stuff that you wouldn't need to worry about and i would recommend if you do flash a new ROM on any device i would start with Cyanogenmod first if its available, it has the most work put into it and is stable for the most part. (not that other ROMs developers don't put hard work into their own ROMs but still Cyanogenmod is getting bigger and bigger) be advised that flashing a new rom deletes all of your data, its just what we have to do to make the rom install properly, if you bought kindle books you can still get the books back by downloading the kindle fire app on the play store when you do get a new ROM. WARNING: DO NOT Flash roms that are for other devices, it will brick your tablet making it unrecoverable.
Seeing that the kindle fire hd is a very popular tablet and does have a few kitkat roms. (Android 4.2.2 is Jelly bean, Android 4.1 - 4.3 is jelly bean as well, Android 4.4 is kitkat) so pretty much it looks like the kindle fire hd has a locked bootloader which can be a problem but seeing that there is custom roms it must have been unlocked. a locked bootloader pretty much means we cannot flash a new OS but we are still able to root it. so pretty much see herehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hd (there are two kindle fire HD's 7" and a 8.9" which is yours?) ask in the Q&A where you can start, i imagine you would need to do this stuff in this order: Unlock bootloader, Root the tablet, install a custom recovery (like Clockworkmod or TWRP) Wipe Data/Factory reset, Wipe Cache (these two actions are done in your recovery) flash a new Rom.
If you have any other questions or i left something out please ask
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Do you have a kindle fire HD as well? Android is sorta open source sure we can root it and install new OS's and other mods but Google allows OEMs can lock boot-loaders and cause awful lot of mess by not letting us developers do anything. You CANNOT flash a rom that is not for your device, it has to do with the other Devices Specs.
what do you mean here?
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Sorry dude....... But I just want to say that on PCs I just need windows or Linux or any os image...... And I can install it on any brand cpu ram motherboard........ It doesn't depend on brand..... Then why they made android or phone devices like this.... I m not saying that they would have make android free but.. It should be installable on all devices with better confg than minimum requirement.... Thats all.
Killwish said:
Sorry dude....... But I just want to say that on PCs I just need windows or Linux or any os image...... And I can install it on any brand cpu ram motherboard........ It doesn't depend on brand..... Then why they made android or phone devices like this.... I m not saying that they would have make android free but.. It should be installable on all devices with better confg than minimum requirement.... Thats all.
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that a little harder to explain, from what i think its mostly because of the CPU drivers, these ROMs are non professional, anyone can make a rom but its a harder to make your own OS for a computer. i cant explain the most part of it for you but we just cant do it right now. you sure can port roms but it has to be from a similar device with almost every spec the same.
Trozzul said:
that a little harder to explain, from what i think its mostly because of the CPU drivers, these ROMs are non professional, anyone can make a rom but its a harder to make your own OS for a computer. i cant explain the most part of it for you but we just cant do it right now. you sure can port roms but it has to be from a similar device with almost every spec the same.
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Thank you sir......
Trozzul said:
that a little harder to explain, from what i think its mostly because of the CPU drivers, these ROMs are non professional, anyone can make a rom but its a harder to make your own OS for a computer. i cant explain the most part of it for you but we just cant do it right now. you sure can port roms but it has to be from a similar device with almost every spec the same.
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I understand that the roms are not professional. That is why I asked for the "stock" kitkat as google released it. shouldn't the "stock google release work on any android device?? if not why not?? this is nothing like pc world ans mentioned above.
I have installed linux on pcs. It runs the installer and does its thing and a few minutes later you have a shiny new system to run. Why is this so different in the mobil environment since as you already mentioned android is essentially linux. None of this device specific ROM stuff makes any sense to me.
Hesperian9x said:
I understand that the roms are not professional. That is why I asked for the "stock" kitkat as google released it. shouldn't the "stock google release work on any android device?? if not why not?? this is nothing like pc world ans mentioned above.
I have installed linux on pcs. It runs the installer and does its thing and a few minutes later you have a shiny new system to run. Why is this so different in the mobil environment since as you already mentioned android is essentially linux. None of this device specific ROM stuff makes any sense to me.
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as for why Roms dont work on all devices and have to be made for specific only i cannot answer, i think it has to do with specs being so different, i think its the CPU that ruins it all because today there are so many different types of partitions for each kind of CPU given out, Rockchip, mediatek, samsung exynos, TI Omap, qualcomm there is quite a lot i cant list lol.
There sorta is a "Stock Google release" for some devices but that is only for Google play edition devices like a Samsung galaxy s4/HTC one M7/M8. if you bought a Non-Google play edition S4 or m7 you are able to install a official Google rom (different process not like flashing stuff in custom recovery's) please dont think that Just because Roms are non-professional does not mean that they are broken or dont work as good as stock material because Custom Roms most of the time get the bugs worked out and everyone is happy. i would recommend a custom rom over Stock kindle firmware, its very limited plus you dont have access to the google play store which has so much more stuff.
Hey there fellers, I'm trying to get this phone rooted, but I'm having trouble.
Odin is windows-only, I haven't been able to get it running properly through WINE.
Heimdall doesn't seem to be working either, though I'm hacking away at it to see if I can adapt the instructions posted elsewhere with this instead of Odin.
Has anyone had success rooting this phone from a Linux machine?
I'm looking for a way to update my tablet from android 4.2.2 to android 5 or higher, I'm trying to install an app, SuperDisplay, that requires android 5 so that I can use my tablet to better assist me in my classes and tutoring, I've tried other apps but they don't work or are very laggy due to being via wifi, SpaceDesk being one of them, since I already had this app(SuperDisplay) on my phone Asus Zenfone 4 Max and paid for it I was conting on not having to buy another tablet as well.
If there is any other way for me to install an app that requires android 5 on a device with android 4.2.2 I would also be very gratefull.
I've read in a few places that my tablet is equivalent to the PiPO M1 Pro, don't know if this helps in anything.
Thank you all in advance for your answers
What you want to achieve is to upgrade your tablet's Android.
This only can be done by means of a Custom Recovery what's suitable to the tablet. Once found a matching Custom Recovery you flash a Custom ROM what's suitable to the tablet by means of the flashed Custom Recovery.
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What you want to achieve is to upgrade your tablet's Android.
This only can be done by means of a Custom Recovery what's suitable to the tablet. Once found a matching Custom Recovery you flash a Custom ROM what's suitable to the tablet by means of the flashed Custom Recovery.
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I think that's it, sorry if I said something that is something completely diferent, I'm still getting acquainted to this kind of stuff. How do I find a macthing Custom Recovery for my tablet that enables me to install the app?