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[Q] Restoring through CWM to stock

hi,i am using stock rom running 4.0.4,i had it rooted too and now i had two queries
1)Is rom manager compatible with Atrix 2??
im asking this because when i open it, it shows u need to install CWM recovery...but no option in that responds...not even intall cwm (1st option in menu)....so i installed CWM using atrix boot strapper app and now still rom manager is not detecting CWM..please help
2)after installing CWM, i had backup my present stock rom..so if i flash a new rom now will that CWM and back up still exist??(because we will wipe data which will remove everyhting right??)
for suppose if i flash jelly bean rom and if i dont like it...can i restore my previous stock rom without bricking my device??
thanks for u r help

vdpraneeth said:
hi,i am using stock rom running 4.0.4,i had it rooted too and now i had two queries
1)Is rom manager compatible with Atrix 2??
im asking this because when i open it, it shows u need to install CWM recovery...but no option in that responds...not even intall cwm (1st option in menu)....so i installed CWM using atrix boot strapper app and now still rom manager is not detecting CWM..please help
2)after installing CWM, i had backup my present stock rom..so if i flash a new rom now will that CWM and back up still exist??(because we will wipe data which will remove everyhting right??)
for suppose if i flash jelly bean rom and if i dont like it...can i restore my previous stock rom without bricking my device??
thanks for u r help
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1) Rom manager is not compatible with Atrix 2. I would not use it. Why do you need it anyway??
You can use Atrix Bootstrapper to go into CWM recovery . Rest can be done there. Or you can use Boot Menu Manager.
2)Of course! it will still be there! the backup is saved on your SD Card. So as long as you don't format your SD Card. It will be there.

NHS2008 said:
1) Rom manager is not compatible with Atrix 2. I would not use it. Why do you need it anyway??
You can use Atrix Bootstrapper to go into CWM recovery . Rest can be done there. Or you can use Boot Menu Manager.
2)Of course! it will still be there! the backup is saved on your SD Card. So as long as you don't format your SD Card. It will be there.
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Rom Manager does work with Atrix2. If you're on Stock ICS, you can install CWM on every boot, then flash the Bionic recovery through Rom Manager. That will allow you to use the 1 touch backup in RM, just hit backup rom and everything does what it's supposed to.
Here is the CWM on every boot for Stock ICS.

NHS2008 said:
1) Rom manager is not compatible with Atrix 2. I would not use it. Why do you need it anyway??
You can use Atrix Bootstrapper to go into CWM recovery . Rest can be done there. Or you can use Boot Menu Manager.
2)Of course! it will still be there! the backup is saved on your SD Card. So as long as you don't format your SD Card. It will be there.
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2)will the CWM recovery exist after flashing new rom or i need to install it again??
when i restore to stock fom JB, it means downgrading the firmware right??
so will there be a chance of bricking or is it same to restore anytime from any version??

vdpraneeth said:
2)will the CWM recovery exist after flashing new rom or i need to install it again??
when i restore to stock fom JB, it means downgrading the firmware right??
so will there be a chance of bricking or is it same to restore anytime from any version??
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No, your Recovery will be wiped after you flash a new rom, but you can install it again and restore your ROM.
But when restoring a rom, make sure you ARE ON THE ROM you are restoring.
E.g. If you flash JB and want Stock ICS back with your backup. First flash the Stock ICS from RSD and then restore your backup from CWM on it.
Or Vice-Versa.
@41rw4lk, Thanks for rectifying that. I did not bother with Rom Manager much.

NHS2008 said:
No, your Recovery will be wiped after you flash a new rom, but you can install it again and restore your ROM.
But when restoring a rom, make sure you ARE ON THE ROM you are restoring.
E.g. If you flash JB and want Stock ICS back with your backup. First flash the Stock ICS from RSD and then restore your backup from CWM on it.
Or Vice-Versa.
@41rw4lk, Thanks for rectifying that. I did not bother with Rom Manager much.
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but downgrading to stock ICS from JB will brick my mobile right??
is there any problem if im not on the rom im restoring??
(im a newbie and i dont know much..even not found these after searching a lot..thats the reason im asking all these)

41rw4lk said:
Rom Manager does work with Atrix2. If you're on Stock ICS, you can install CWM on every boot, then flash the Bionic recovery through Rom Manager. That will allow you to use the 1 touch backup in RM, just hit backup rom and everything does what it's supposed to.
Here is the CWM on every boot for Stock ICS.
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how is it possible to flash bionic recovery through RM...all the menu options are disabled for me there even after CWM installed through bootstrap

vdpraneeth said:
2)will the CWM recovery exist after flashing new rom or i need to install it again??
when i restore to stock fom JB, it means downgrading the firmware right??
so will there be a chance of bricking or is it same to restore anytime from any version??
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I don't think any recovery exist after flashing a new rom. We have a locked bootloader, so we can't replace the stock recovery.img, all of our recoveries hijack the boot process to work. CM10 and PA I believe have a built in recovery, and that's about as close as you'll get to having a recovery exist after flashing a rom.
As far as restoring from JB, I believe you can downgrade to ICS, but you'll have to look at the JB thread to be certain. I'm on AT&T so I haven't had an opportunity to try JB (officially). CM10 is based on JB, but for our phone with the locked bootloader, it's more of a pseudo experience and is based on our ICS framework.
As for bricking, there is always a chance to brick, that's part of the mod game, but if you read and pay attention to what you have and what you're doing, you'll be alright.

vdpraneeth said:
but downgrading to stock ICS from JB will brick my mobile right??
is there any problem if im not on the rom im restoring??
(im a newbie and i dont know much..even not found these after searching a lot..thats the reason im asking all these)
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UNLESS you have AT&T phone you should be just fine with ref lashing the ICS.
YES. there is a big problem if you are not on a ROM you are restoring.
Its like you are trying to comlete your jigsaw puzzle by putting pieces from some another jigsaw puzzle.

vdpraneeth said:
how is it possible to flash bionic recovery through RM...all the menu options are disabled for me there even after CWM installed through bootstrap
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You need to use the CWM on every boot setup, the Atrix2Bootstrap alone won't do.

41rw4lk said:
You need to use the CWM on every boot setup, the Atrix2Bootstrap alone won't do.
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yes...my phone is an AT&T version...though im using it with IDEA.....
so if i install CWM on every boot,then rom manager will detect it and work right??

vdpraneeth said:
yes...my phone is an AT&T version...though im using it with IDEA.....
so if i install CWM on every boot,then rom manager will detect it and work right??
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Yes. I will say though, if you're on an AT&T branded phone with AT&T firmware, do NOT try to flash the new JB FXZ. It doesn't matter who your carrier is, it matters what firmware your phone is using. So, if you're on AT&T then you need to make sure that the things you flash are for AT&T, or else you will brick and that will be then end of that.

41rw4lk said:
Yes. I will say though, if you're on an AT&T branded phone with AT&T firmware, do NOT try to flash the new JB FXZ. It doesn't matter who your carrier is, it matters what firmware your phone is using. So, if you're on AT&T then you need to make sure that the things you flash are for AT&T, or else you will brick and that will be then end of that.
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thanks a lot...
what are the ROMS avaialble for us???
can i reflash stock ICS from any of those ROMS safely??
thank you

vdpraneeth said:
thanks a lot...
what are the ROMS avaialble for us???
can i reflash stock ICS from any of those ROMS safely??
thank you
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CM10
PA
Numa
MIUI (had battery issues, but I think they got it all worked out)
there's a few, you'll just have to look. Most of the time, if something is not meant for AT&T, the devs will post in the description that it isn't compatible. If you want stock ICS back at anytime, you can do yourself a favor and make a backup of your stock ICS all setup the way you like it, so you can restore if needed. If all else fails, there is an Official ICS FXZ that will get you back to stock ICS.

41rw4lk said:
CM10
PA
Numa
MIUI (had battery issues, but I think they got it all worked out)
there's a few, you'll just have to look. Most of the time, if something is not meant for AT&T, the devs will post in the description that it isn't compatible. If you want stock ICS back at anytime, you can do yourself a favor and make a backup of your stock ICS all setup the way you like it, so you can restore if needed. If all else fails, there is an Official ICS FXZ that will get you back to stock ICS.
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my main question is :
will downgrade to ICS cause brick??
how do i create my own backup for stock ICS??

vdpraneeth said:
my main question is :
will downgrade to ICS cause brick??
how do i create my own backup for stock ICS??
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You're killing me smalls. You're on ICS already, you're not downgrading anything, nor can you downgrade ie. Gingerbread. There is no Official JB for AT&T, so that's not an issue. CM10 is a JB based rom built on an ICS frame, (for our phone at least), and again, you're not downgrading.
To make a back up, boot in to CWM or whatever recovery you're using (not stock), and click backup. You might hit up the noob thread to get an idea of the terminology and basics for our device. Not trying to be rude, but you're running yourself in circles. You got to walk before you can run.

Jelly Bean OTA

FOTA ripped for your enjoyment.
https://mega.co.nz/#!xoZigSqS!YHUa5Umv-8qjyFV1dtHs4lDQXMIn1q7plTz3zWeYSwY
That's completely unmodified. (I tried just installing it in CWM. Think I probably bricked doing something silly...)

I pulled this as well, but I'm curious if you had to flash back to stock firmware and recovery to get it. I tried using a rooted stock rom and the software update screen would give me a "modified devices don't get updates" message. I actually had to have stock recovery and system installed so that it would download. Did you have to do the same thing?

gee one said:
I pulled this as well, but I'm curious if you had to flash back to stock firmware and recovery to get it. I tried using a rooted stock rom and the software update screen would give me a "modified devices don't get updates" message. I actually had to have stock recovery and system installed so that it would download. Did you have to do the same thing?
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Interestingly enough, it downloaded perfectly fine for me, even though my device was "modified"...

bigleague4040 said:
Interestingly enough, it downloaded perfectly fine for me, even though my device was "modified"...
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I have a modified boot.img- perhaps that blocks the ota?

My device is rooted.
It is on 4.2.1 genuine T-mobile software.
When I want to update OverTheAir this message pop out.
See attachement (I don't know how to put image here).
What can I do to update OTA?

I played around with this a while ago (my flash counter is at 29 last time I checked).
I think you have a few options:
1) maybe unroot and that might remove the modified status
2) use heimdall or odin to flash back to unrooted stock, including stock recovery and boot.img
3) flash one of the rooted JB roms, either stock, cyanogen, or our very own Teamapexq rom
4) download the OTA or the JB rom from the web and repackage it yourself to a flashable zip.
Option 1 might not work. Option 2-4 will work, 4 would be the most fun.
sent while running with scissors

gee one said:
I played around with this a while ago (my flash counter is at 29 last time I checked).
I think you have a few options:
1) maybe unroot and that might remove the modified status
2) use heimdall or odin to flash back to unrooted stock, including stock recovery and boot.img
3) flash one of the rooted JB roms, either stock, cyanogen, or our very own Teamapexq rom
4) download the OTA or the JB rom from the web and repackage it yourself to a flashable zip.
Option 1 might not work. Option 2-4 will work, 4 would be the most fun.
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OMG, I would like to do it with no hassle.
I just want something to work ... grrr.

Option 2 would probably be the most straightforward. Essentially, you are unrooting. I just remembered, Samsung has Kies which might restore it to stock. You can download it from their website.
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mazak23 said:
My device is rooted.
It is on 4.2.1 genuine T-mobile software.
When I want to update OverTheAir this message pop out.
See attachement (I don't know how to put image here).
What can I do to update OTA?
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the update in this thread is only about JB 4.1.2 that is officially the latest and the last one for our mobile. your message box is normal, there is no need for the usage of the OTA anymore since then. if u want to update to JB 4.3 follow this unofficial image:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2463661

Holy thread resurrection Batman!!!
Oh boy. Here we go. Having troubles here.
I am trying to re-flash my phone to stock so I can return it under the protection plan. I firmly believe my radio might be on the fritz.
Anyway, I used the directions here:
http://theunlockr.com/2013/04/25/how-to-unroot-the-samsung-galaxy-s-relay-4g-sgh-t699/
Now it all completed successfully, and the phone is chilling at the SAMSUNG screen trying to boot. Not sure what to do at this point. Its been sitting there for a good 5 minutes.
Please help!!
UPDATE: Went into stock recovery, cleared Cache and Data, then rebooted it again, and it booted!

Which JelyBean Version...!!!
After installing this update what will be my os (JB 4.X.X) version???

saurabhsaurabhrai said:
After installing this update what will be my os (JB 4.X.X) version???
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it is just from stock, will be updated to JB 4.1.2

[Q] Custom recovery and CWM Recovery-on-boot for stock ICS

I've looked all over this forum and I hope that I can get a definitive answer here. I don't feel like my use case is that unique but I'm going to be as specific as possible and hopefully get as concise and complete an answer as possible.
Until recently, I was running a custom GB-based ROM. When I was running GB, I used the Atrix 2 Bootstrapper and RAZR-CWM-Recovery-on-boot-J.Y.Daddy (or whatever it's called) to get CWM Recovery on boot and make backups and so on.
I ran the return to stock script from my GB ROM and am now running the stock ICS ROM that I got from the official OTA upgrade from AT&T. I've obviously rooted it.
I want to make a backup of my current stock rooted ROM with CWM Recovery. To my knowledge, the old bootstrapper method does not work on the official ICS OTA upgrade. I don't want to multi-boot with BMM, I just want a custom recovery so I can run CWM Recovery to backup/restore/possibly flash a new ROM.
I know that most of the new ROMs include their own custom backup, but that leaves me with no way to get back to the new stock ICS ROM (to my knowledge, I may be wrong).
If the simple solution is not possible and the only solution is to install Numa or Paranoid or the unofficial CM ROM, that's fine, I'd just like to know.
Thanks in advance.

My advice would be to just use BMM from the play store, edit the recovery.fstab as shown in that thread.. And make a backup with that.. Use tar format I think (if there's a choice - sorry I have not made a backup on this phone in a while).
That should be good to restore with other recoveries.. Plus you can uninstall BMM and don't need to multi-boot..
But, wait, I thought the old a2 bootstrapper worked fine on ics...?
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alteredlikeness said:
But, wait, I thought the old a2 bootstrapper worked fine on ics...?
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I actually haven't tried it yet, that's just the general "feeling" I got from what I had read thus far. I was up super late last night fixing three or four soft bricks before I got my phone to a working state again and now I'm taking the cautious route. The bootstrapper doesn't count as a custom recovery, though, for the purposes of creating a backup with CWM Recovery, right? As in I'll still need to find a custom recovery to run a backup.
That is, of course, assuming I don't just use BMM to take my backup now. I suppose I had planned to go with a custom ROM eventually anyway, probably Numa, or maybe the CM ROM (if it gets a little more stable here pretty quickly, I suppose).
I'm pretty pleased with the stock ICS ROM over my old custom GB ROM (SCv6), which is why I'm now circumspect about trying out a new custom ROM without having a way to easily get back to where I am now (because I lost my backups the first time, like an idiot).
Thanks for the reply.

wormmd said:
I actually haven't tried it yet, that's just the general "feeling" I got from what I had read thus far. I was up super late last night fixing three or four soft bricks before I got my phone to a working state again and now I'm taking the cautious route. The bootstrapper doesn't count as a custom recovery, though, for the purposes of creating a backup with CWM Recovery, right? As in I'll still need to find a custom recovery to run a backup.
That is, of course, assuming I don't just use BMM to take my backup now. I suppose I had planned to go with a custom ROM eventually anyway, probably Numa, or maybe the CM ROM (if it gets a little more stable here pretty quickly, I suppose).
I'm pretty pleased with the stock ICS ROM over my old custom GB ROM (SCv6), which is why I'm now circumspect about trying out a new custom ROM without having a way to easily get back to where I am now (because I lost my backups the first time, like an idiot).
Thanks for the reply.
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why not multi boot using BMM? checkout Numa, it has all the stock ICS goodness but debloated and much faster. see for urself
i'm using it and its much better than ICS stock

wormmd said:
To my knowledge, the old bootstrapper method does not work on the official ICS OTA upgrade.
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The bootstrapper does work with ICS.
I don't want to multi-boot with BMM, I just want a custom recovery so I can run CWM Recovery to backup/restore/possibly flash a new ROM.
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Well apart from bootstrapper and BMM we don't have any other custom recovery for Atrix 2.
I know that most of the new ROMs include their own custom backup, but that leaves me with no way to get back to the new stock ICS ROM (to my knowledge, I may be wrong).
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Well there's always the fxz way
alteredlikeness said:
My advice would be to just use BMM from the play store, edit the recovery.fstab as shown in that thread.. And make a backup with that.. Use tar format I think (if there's a choice - sorry I have not made a backup on this phone in a while).
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Yup as altered said.But from my understanding you don't want to multi-boot right? Then you don't need to edit recovery.fstb.Just install it from play store install the hijacks and make a backup(in tar format preferably you'll find the option in there)
wormmd said:
that is assuming I don't just use BMM to take my backup now.
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I really don't see logically why would you be so hell bent to avoid BMM.
I'm pretty pleased with the stock ICS ROM over my old custom GB ROM (SCv6), which is why I'm now circumspect about trying out a new custom ROM without having a way to easily get back to where I am now (because I lost my backups the first time, like an idiot).
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You can do two things:
1.Install BMM make a backup of your current system.Install the custom ROM you want.Restore whenever you feel like.
2.Install BMM.Edit recovery.fstb(don't go after the name you just have to edit some text).Leave your current system on system 1.Install any ROM you like on system 3 and/or above.No need to restore.Switch between your choice of system whenever you wish.
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[Q] Flashed JB gapps to ICS wont boot, lost BMM

I accidentally flashed the Google Inverted (gapps for JB) zip to my 1st system (official ICS 4.0.4 AT&T) and now it wont boot, is there a zip that can reverse that?
It seems that made me loose BMM too.. :/
Is there a way I can fix this without having to FXZ to official 4.0.4 again :/?
EDIT: Is there a way to flash the ICS gapps through fastboot?

demencia89 said:
I accidentally flashed the Google Inverted (gapps for JB) zip to my 1st system (official ICS 4.0.4 AT&T) and now it wont boot, is there a zip that can reverse that?
It seems that made me loose BMM too.. :/
Is there a way I can fix this without having to FXZ to official 4.0.4 again :/?
EDIT: Is there a way to flash the ICS gapps through fastboot?
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If you've lost BMM, and you're boot looping then you'll have to FXZ and start over. After you've re-rooted and reinstalled BMM you can restore your backups.
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Why install gapps on stock? Gapps are already part of the stock firmware.
Usually reversed gapps only work on non stock ROMs. If you want reversed gapps on stock you have to edit the xml files manually, since there are not any made for stock a2 firmware.

jimbridgman said:
Why install gapps on stock? Gapps are already part of the stock firmware.
Usually reversed gapps only work on non stock ROMs. If you want reversed gapps on stock you have to edit the xml files manually, since there are not any made for stock a2 firmware.
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Thank you for the information Jim! The problem was that I wanted to flash them on system 3 but forgot to switch! I made that kind of mistake twice that week :/

Bricked from BMM

Hello all,
I need some help with this old Atrix 2. It's been sitting in a drawer for a while, and I haven't touched it for like a year at least. Apparently back then I had dual-booted stock and another ROM using BMM (Bootmenu Manager). Well now I need to use it and I thought the best thing to do would be fastboot flash the stock ROM, so I did that from the bootloader and it didn't change anything. So I went into BMM and deleted the second ROM (in slot 3), then did a factory reset on the stock ROM through fastboot.
Now I can't get any slots to work besides stock, and the stock ROM has zero bytes available for user data. meaning I can't install the BMM app to remove BMM.
When trying to use another slot, I can create the virtual partitions, but after a reboot it can't find them anymore...
From recovery I can't even mount /data. I'm not sure how to fix this.

You should flash the stock ROM using RSD.
Maybe you will need some resources and basic guide here

PhoenixNghi said:
You should flash the stock ROM using RSD.
Maybe you will need some resources and basic guide here
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Downloading the file now, will let you know how it goes. Sorry for the late reply.