I've been wanting to take the ota kit Kat version but scared if I take it I will loose root and my flash to Pageplus with 3g and mms working. have anyone took the update and still able to gain root access and Pageplus service with working 3g and mms?
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dextrickbell said:
I've been wanting to take the ota kit Kat version but scared if I take it I will loose root and my flash to Pageplus with 3g and mms working. have anyone took the update and still able to gain root access and Pageplus service with working 3g and mms?
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You will lose root, unless you are bootloader unlocked then you can flash su easily. No idea about Pageplus service, depends how you enabled it originally..
So is it possible to unlock my bootloader then take the ota update.
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So is it possible to unlock my bootloader then take the ota update.
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You can't unlock your bootloader unless you have a dev device or XT925..if you don't have either of these then you'll have to wait until there is a method to keep root (if it's possible).
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You can't unlock your bootloader unless you have a dev device or XT925..if you don't have either of these then you'll have to wait until there is a method to keep root (if it's possible).
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Not entirely true. It you are on an XT926 non-dev device, you could still unlock the bootloader IF you haven't upgraded to any OTAs after version 9.16.6. If you've updated it via an OTA since that version, then no, you cannot unlock your bootloader. And downgrading back to 9.16.6 will not fix it. Once the OTA is applied, the exploit to unlock an XT926 is gone forever. It was the one and only chance of unlocking the phone. No other options exist unless Verizon allows it to be unlocked via the Motorola unlocker program, which I highly doubt will occur.
If you are still on 9.16.9 or earlier, then you can go here and try to unlock your bootloader -> http://vulnfactory.org/blog/2013/04/08/motorola-bootloader-unlocking/
You must be rooted in order to do this.
If you are on any of these versions, then you can no longer unlock your bootloader:
9.18.X
9.20.1
9.30.1
183.46.10 (KitKat)
Trying won't hurt anything. Worse comes to worse, you'll still have a locked bootloader. Best case scenario, you'll have an unlocked bootloader!
We've already had one success story since the OTA with a user who was able to unlock his bootloader, so you might be the same as long as you are on the version stated or earlier. He was and luckily, no later OTAs were applied, so he's now unlocked.
Hi guys...
so, i bought a Razr HD XT925 and it still didnt arrive, but till it happens i want to be ready to root the phone, so i can install titanium backup and erase some **** that will come like some google apps.
i've read some threads about rooting the phone and i realized that a lot of people talk about this "bootloader"
i had a galaxy s2 and i've never had to worry about this, but in the root threads of Razr HD i see people arguing about it...
i dont know if the phone will arrive with the last update(4.1.2), probably will cause its a long time this update has been out...so i have the following questions:
1) If the phone comes with whether 4.0.4 ICS or 4.1.2 JB, do i need to do something about Bootloader beore rooting it? if yes, what?
2) what's the best way to root? any link for a good thread?
i just dont want to get the phone and in the first day screw him up...
that's why i need to ask this.
thanks in advance
xubeiga said:
Hi guys...
so, i bought a Razr HD XT925 and it still didnt arrive, but till it happens i want to be ready to root the phone, so i can install titanium backup and erase some **** that will come like some google apps.
i've read some threads about rooting the phone and i realized that a lot of people talk about this "bootloader"
i had a galaxy s2 and i've never had to worry about this, but in the root threads of Razr HD i see people arguing about it...
i dont know if the phone will arrive with the last update(4.1.2), probably will cause its a long time this update has been out...so i have the following questions:
1) If the phone comes with whether 4.0.4 ICS or 4.1.2 JB, do i need to do something about Bootloader beore rooting it? if yes, what?
2) what's the best way to root? any link for a good thread?
i just dont want to get the phone and in the first day screw him up...
that's why i need to ask this.
thanks in advance
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When I bought my phone, it was on JellyBean. I used the Motorola instructions to unlock the bootloader (It seems to work in all Razr HD except the US / Verizon ones where you need to have the DEV edition).
Then I flashed recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1973904
And then installed SuperSU http://download.chainfire.eu/298/SuperSU/
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When I bought my phone, it was on JellyBean. I used the Motorola instructions to unlock the bootloader (It seems to work in all Razr HD except the US / Verizon ones where you need to have the DEV edition).
Then I flashed recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1973904
And then installed SuperSU http://download.chainfire.eu/298/SuperSU/
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thanks mate! i will sure try this in a few days.
so after doing these 3 steps, the device got Rooted and working perfectly?
I wonder why is it necessary to unlock this bootloader. why i didnt have to do it in the SGS II? maybe cause Samsung already let it unlocked?
i realized that when i unlock the bootloader i lose the cover by Motorola, so, is it possible to "lock" the bootloader again?
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i saw this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943851
this one doesnt say anything about unlocking, maybe the script does itself?
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thanks mate! i will sure try this in a few days.
so after doing these 3 steps, the device got Rooted and working perfectly?
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Yes, I did that and have no problem (I did it like 4 month ago)
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I wonder why is it necessary to unlock this bootloader. why i didnt have to do it in the SGS II? maybe cause Samsung already let it unlocked?
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I don't know, every phone has it issues, I remember having to backup the radio and the EFS partition on my Samsung, I didn't have to do any of that on my motorola and with my LG was as easy as installing a script.
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i realized that when i unlock the bootloader i lose the cover by Motorola, so, is it possible to "lock" the bootloader again?
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I don't think so...
xubeiga said:
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i saw this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943851
this one doesnt say anything about unlocking, maybe the script does itself?
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Yes, I remember that when I bought my phone I just root it without unlocking the bootlader (using the MotoChopper tool I think), I waited 6 month until warranty time was over and then I unlocked the bootloader
I'm not really sure of any of this, but i think that...
With locked bootloader you can't install custom ROMs and you will lose root if you OTA update your device (have in mind that there is currently there is no way to root KK in this device).
pbosio said:
Yes, I did that and have no problem (I did it like 4 month ago)
I don't know, every phone has it issues, I remember having to backup the radio and the EFS partition on my Samsung, I didn't have to do any of that on my motorola and with my LG was as easy as installing a script.
I don't think so...
Yes, I remember that when I bought my phone I just root it without unlocking the bootlader (using the MotoChopper tool I think), I waited 6 month until warranty time was over and then I unlocked the bootloader
I'm not really sure of any of this, but i think that...
With locked bootloader you can't install custom ROMs and you will lose root if you OTA update your device (have in mind that there is currently there is no way to root KK in this device).
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so, basically, it isnt necessary to unlock the bootloader to root the phone?
i really dont want to flash custom roms. not right now. i just want to root the phone so i can use Titanium Backup to uninstall some apps that i don't use, which will just waste my memory and battery!
edit: i just read that there are 2 programs. this motochopper and one called motopocalypse.
the motochopper is to root the phone and the other one is to unlock bootloader. and you can't unlock bootloader if your device isnt rooted.
so i can just use the motochopper, root it, and the device will be rooted and still working fine, without bootloader unlocked and i would still have the cover from Motorola? am i correct?
If you upgrade to Kitkat on a phone with a locked bootloader, then you will lose root. No way to carry it over the ota and there is no way to root it once you are on Kit Kat. This must be the 100th time this has been stated.
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iBolski said:
If you upgrade to Kitkat on a phone with a locked bootloader, then you will lose root. No way to carry it over the ota and there is no way to root it once you are on Kit Kat. This must be the 100th time this has been stated.
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well, as i said that i don't want to flash custom roms, this must not be a problem for me
but dully noted for the future!
here in brazil the official KK 4.4.2 is not released yet
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so i can just use the motochopper, root it, and the device will be rooted and still working fine, without bootloader unlocked and i would still have the cover from Motorola? am i correct?
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Yes, that is correct, take in mind that probably you will still lose cover from Motorola if you root it, but you can unroot before taking your device to Motorola's service if you have any issue...
xubeiga said:
well, as i said that i don't want to flash custom roms, this must not be a problem for me
but dully noted for the future!
here in brazil the official KK 4.4.2 is not released yet
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Stupid me, I didn't read. You have an XT925 so you can "legally" unlock it, no exploit needed like it was with the XT926, so you should still have the ability to sideload root on Kit Kat, like those of us with unlocked XT926s. So, disregard my incoherent ramblings earlier! :silly:
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Yes, that is correct, take in mind that probably you will still lose cover from Motorola if you root it, but you can unroot before taking your device to Motorola's service if you have any issue...
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yes, that's exactly what i want and exactly what i'm thinking.
just root the device and dont mess with the bootloader, and if anything happens and i need the cover from Motorola, i can just unroot it!
thanks for all your answers. :victory:
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Stupid me, I didn't read. You have an XT925 so you can "legally" unlock it, no exploit needed like it was with the XT926, so you should still have the ability to sideload root on Kit Kat, like those of us with unlocked XT926s. So, disregard my incoherent ramblings earlier! :silly:
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no problems mate!!
even you understanding it wrong, i still learned a few with your answer :good:
thanks!
xubeiga said:
yes, that's exactly what i want and exactly what i'm thinking.
just root the device and dont mess with the bootloader, and if anything happens and i need the cover from Motorola, i can just unroot it!
thanks for all your answers. :victory:
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They can tell if you rooted it or not. When you start to boot up into stock recovery, you'll see a QE code on the Andy screen. A qe code of 0/0 means it's not rooted and it's never been rooted.
1/1 means it's currently rooted and it's been rooted before.
0/1 means it's currently not rooted but it's been rooted before.
At least, that's what has been guessed as to what the values mean, but definitely, if it's 0/0, then the phone has never been rooted before. Any values other than 0 to the left or right of the slash means the phone has been rooted before, which means you're warranty is voided.
So, they can tell when you've rooted it. And there's no known way of clearing those values out.
In any case, if you're going to root, you might as well unlock it as well because they can determine if it's been rooted anyways, which will void your warranty.
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If you upgrade to Kitkat on a phone with a locked bootloader, then you will lose root. No way to carry it over the ota and there is no way to root it once you are on Kit Kat. This must be the 100th time this has been stated.
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Forgive me if im asking something already answered. If you have a locked bootloader and on KitKat, is it possible to flash with sbf to an earlier software version, root, then just dont update? Or if the bootloader is locked does this mean that you cant flash anything at all? I only need root, probably like everyone else on KitKat. LoL. Just curious if theres a way to flash to an earlier version. How do you know if your bootloader is locked? Im not familiar with this version.
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Forgive me if im asking something already answered. If you have a locked bootloader and on KitKat, is it possible to flash with sbf to an earlier software version, root, then just dont update? Or if the bootloader is locked does this mean that you cant flash anything at all? I only need root, probably like everyone else on KitKat. LoL. Just curious if theres a way to flash to an earlier version. How do you know if your bootloader is locked? Im not familiar with this version.
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This should answer your question. It's earlier in this thread where I answered this question:
iBolski said:
If you upgrade to Kitkat on a phone with a locked bootloader, then you will lose root. No way to carry it over the ota and there is no way to root it once you are on Kit Kat. This must be the 100th time this has been stated.
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Once on KitKat, you are stuck. You cannot revert back to a previous version (you WILL brick your phone).
A little research goes a long way. This has been discussed to death since KitKat came out.
iBolski said:
This should answer your question. It's earlier in this thread where I answered this question:
Once on KitKat, you are stuck. You cannot revert back to a previous version (you WILL brick your phone).
A little research goes a long way. This has been discussed to death since KitKat came out.
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Thanks for the explanation, unfortunately "Reasearching" this is not possible when Tapatalk has a "Noted & Known issue" with its search function. Their support team is working diligently for a resolution. Maybe you didn't see my sig line indicating I was utilizing Tapatalk.
LOL. "Research does go along way if properly utilized".
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iBolski said:
They can tell if you rooted it or not. When you start to boot up into stock recovery, you'll see a QE code on the Andy screen. A qe code of 0/0 means it's not rooted and it's never been rooted.
1/1 means it's currently rooted and it's been rooted before.
0/1 means it's currently not rooted but it's been rooted before.
At least, that's what has been guessed as to what the values mean, but definitely, if it's 0/0, then the phone has never been rooted before. Any values other than 0 to the left or right of the slash means the phone has been rooted before, which means you're warranty is voided.
So, they can tell when you've rooted it. And there's no known way of clearing those values out.
In any case, if you're going to root, you might as well unlock it as well because they can determine if it's been rooted anyways, which will void your warranty.
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wow, that's unfortunate
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wow, that's unfortunate
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That's been going on since ICS, I believe. So, it's nothing new. I remember when the news came out about it a few years ago. I've seen it on my Droid X2, Droid RAZR MAXX and now on my RAZR HD.
I don't know if it's only on Motorola phones or all android phones. All my Android phones have been Motorola with the exception of my first Android phone, which was an LG Vortex.
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That's been going on since ICS, I believe. So, it's nothing new. I remember when the news came out about it a few years ago. I've seen it on my Droid X2, Droid RAZR MAXX and now on my RAZR HD.
I don't know if it's only on Motorola phones or all android phones. All my Android phones have been Motorola with the exception of my first Android phone, which was an LG Vortex.
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I've heard about it on some Samsung phones, and they go even farther and track how many times someone has flashed roms and such...Chainfire has some tools just for them. Look up Triangle Away.
yep, i had a Galaxy S2(which i dont have anymore cause i've been stolen), and in my first day with it, i rooted, flashed a custom rom, and then some months after, the usb connector stopped working properly. and the phone still had smth like 4 months of warranty...
i had to do a lot of things to reset it.
flash stock firmware with odin, then use this triangle away, then unroot, etc etc etc...well at least i could reset it and send to warranty without they knowing it
I was wondering if I could get your help with unlocking my Alcatel onetouch Idol 3 (6045I) after having much difficulty.
I've recently acquired this phone from Bell (wireless Carrier in Canada) and the phone shipped new with Android version 6.0.1. As you are well aware Marshmallow breaks fast boot functionality in the boot loader leaving me unable to perform "fastboot -i 0x1bbb oem unlock".
I've attempted to downgrade the phone using "Mobile_Upgrade_Q_5.0.6_Setup"; however after the process was successful and complete, the phone did not downgrade to version 5 of Android. The phone still had version 6 present as it shipped with this version.
Do you have any suggestions about how I could go about "unlocking" the phone as I need to use a sim card from a different wireless carrier.
Thank you very much for your assistance ahead of time.
Unlocking the bootloader using fastboot commands and network unlocking the phone are two different things.
To use the phone with a non-bell carrier, you must buy an unlock code. I suggest looking on eBay for the cheapest and most reliable unlocker.
audit13 said:
Unlocking the bootloader using fastboot commands and network unlocking the phone are two different things.
To use the phone with a non-bell carrier, you must buy an unlock code. I suggest looking on eBay for the cheapest and most reliable unlocker.
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Thanks for the assistance. I should have been more clear. I'm looking to unlock the phone so that I can install a stock ROM. I'm also looking to unlock the sim so I can use a Rogers sim card. I've now purchased an unlock code from Ebay and awaiting delivery thanks to your suggestion.
You'll have to downgrade using the Panasonic Eluga software to 5.02, unlock bootloader, flash twrp, and custom rom.
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You'll have to downgrade using the Panasonic Eluga software to 5.02, unlock bootloader, flash twrp, and custom rom.
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Thank you. The Panasonic software worked. This process has been anything but pain free.
Glad you got it to downgrade.
My idol 3 came with 5.02 and never updated it even though the update was available because I like the idea of customizing the rom if I want to.
Where do you find this software ? Do you have a link ?
Because I found nothing...
These instructions may help to downgrade: http://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/general/guide-repair-idol-3-t3372076
Thanks
Glad it worked out! Keep a copy of the eluga restore, it had the 5.x version of android inside the download, so now no matter what u can always restore back to a state where unlock+twrp install is possible.
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