[Q] Purely cloud backup, real sync, fully automated, no local files - General Questions and Answers

I've spent all morning googling and I'm surprised to find no other posts/users looking for what I am. Please help. I'm looking for an app to fully backup and restore a rooted Nexus 4 (16gb isn't a lot) with the following specs/functions:
- for rooted devices (because apps for rooted devices can simply do a bit more)
- fully automated (set it and forget it)
- cloud sync (not just upload or writing over old version - if the app/data is unchanged, it shouldn't be copied)
- paid app but no subscription based
- able to restore to other devices
- media/SD card sync is a bonus, but not obligatory
- and the MOST important: cloud based (local files aren't needed, or deleted once sync'd). Backup/uload to the cloud should happen app by app (incrementally), so I don't need to clean memory so I'll room for a single 1.5 gig backup file, for example.
I've been playing with nandroid backups, Titanium, G Cloud and Helium (aka ex-Carbon), but all seem to missing one of the above, or I'm just doing it wrong...or I need to use a solution combining several apps. Please correct me if I'm wrong on my analysis of the following:
- TiBackup does a real sync (not just overwriting) with the cloud, but needs to keep a local copy of the backup. With no SD card slot, I DON'T want 1.6 gigs just sitting there for nothing.
- Helium doesn't really sync, it just overwrites. Not a problem running at night, but still a waste of bandwidth.
- G Cloud is a subscription service. (or you can jump through hoops to get more free capacity)
- ROM manager premium is automated, but nandroid backups aren't very compatible on other devices
So, I'm presently testing G Gloud and getting ready to put on my jumping shoes...thanks for any advice!

What did you end up with?
I haven't found a good alternative.

Goyena said:
I've spent all morning googling and I'm surprised to find no other posts/users looking for what I am. Please help. I'm looking for an app to fully backup and restore a rooted Nexus 4 (16gb isn't a lot) with the following specs/functions:
- for rooted devices (because apps for rooted devices can simply do a bit more)
- fully automated (set it and forget it)
- cloud sync (not just upload or writing over old version - if the app/data is unchanged, it shouldn't be copied)
- paid app but no subscription based
- able to restore to other devices
- media/SD card sync is a bonus, but not obligatory
- and the MOST important: cloud based (local files aren't needed, or deleted once sync'd). Backup/uload to the cloud should happen app by app (incrementally), so I don't need to clean memory so I'll room for a single 1.5 gig backup file, for example.
I've been playing with nandroid backups, Titanium, G Cloud and Helium (aka ex-Carbon), but all seem to missing one of the above, or I'm just doing it wrong...or I need to use a solution combining several apps. Please correct me if I'm wrong on my analysis of the following:
- TiBackup does a real sync (not just overwriting) with the cloud, but needs to keep a local copy of the backup. With no SD card slot, I DON'T want 1.6 gigs just sitting there for nothing.
- Helium doesn't really sync, it just overwrites. Not a problem running at night, but still a waste of bandwidth.
- G Cloud is a subscription service. (or you can jump through hoops to get more free capacity)
- ROM manager premium is automated, but nandroid backups aren't very compatible on other devices
So, I'm presently testing G Gloud and getting ready to put on my jumping shoes...thanks for any advice!
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Are you still using G Cloud ? and how did you find it? well because I'm one of the developers and we are currently planning to release a new update that would make purchasing space done only once no subscriptions needed.
So just wanted to let you know

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Want to upgrade from cyanogen 2.1 to 2.2 and retain current apps. Advice needed.

Is there any way to do this without having to re-install all my apps on my phone? I have a lot of apps installed and would not want to lose my data for them.
Also: I have a HTC Magic with 2.1 and cyanogen mod. It is starting to really get slow so I would like to do this upgrade.
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bump, same question!
Try using Titanium Backup from the market. It backs up market links, apps, and app data. Also it backs up launcher's settings.
I would personally just do a clean wipe since Android 2.2 will automatically download and install all your apps.
Titanium Backup Fail
Downloaded the free and paid vesions of TB to a rooted ATT Captivate. Installed normally. Got the latest busybox and did a compete back up. All still ok. Flashed the new 2.2beta8.1 (designgears/cognition ROM) onto the device with Clockwork ROM manager. Still normal. Noticed after the restart, that FroYo installed, and as expected, all my apps were gone, only the stock apps remainng. I started the resoration process with market downloads of with TB and then TB Pro downloads (again) to get set up to go forward with the restore function and replace my apps and settings into the device.
I went to restore and here is where the "trouble" begins. I am unable to restore from the extermal SD card. No method for getting to it from within the program. Despite carefully reading everything I could find on your website and the forums, beforo beginning with the first steps for TB free, and then immediately into TBP, and carefully accomplishing the initial backup (which worked without error and stored onto the external sd card) something is not working the way it should, (I feel).
So I turned to the the PC next. I mounted the sd's and found the file. Copied it over to the root directory on the internal card from the ext sd card with the supplied data cable: ran TBP restore again. TBP indiactes back up successful, but it doesn't resotre anything backed up from the device under 2.1 Eclair_update1.
Still I do not have my contacts, deja office, tune in radio, ect. I did not have a lot of apps, but they are not reappearing when I do the restore.
The starred locs in maps came back, tho I actually think those favs, etc. are stored online.
So, working from memory here, the apps that failed to make the trip: Kindle and my one book Moby **** (a fun re-read - btw I realize now that I was too young to appreciate this when I read it in high school), Bar Code Scanner, BT GPS, Deja Office, Tricorder. None of my 1050 or so Conacts, Tasks, Memos, Notes, were restored. When I look at the Android Market app, and go to the download tab, it only remembers the paid apps I installed, none of the free apps show up in my list of downloaded programs. TuneIn Radio and its dozen or so presets are also missing. These are the missing apps I can recall at this instant. Oddly enough, the calendar appoitments did make the trip, maybe because google online is syncing them?
So I guess you could say the TB PRO app has been pretty much of a flop for me thus far, but I am hopeful that it will be fully functional soon. I'm wondering if the 2.2 ROM upgrade has some implication in the inability of the program to restore from the external sd card? Maybe there is something I missed in your documentation?
I could rebuild everything one step at a time, but I'd rather see the back-up program function as advertied and save my time. So I will pause here in my efforts, run with what I have, and wait to hear from you.
Your comments and suggestions are highly anticipated!
Jack Webster
Springfield, MO
rooted AT&T Captivate/2.2v8.1

[Q] Need Some Help with An EVO back up

First want to say hi. I want to backup my evo since im replacing it with a newer evo since there is a problem with mine its hardware problem. but any way is there a way i can completly take everything from my current phone to new one Apps photos settings launcher pro(paid)im getting the phone tom they called todayso plz help me out plz try and keep it simple if possible
First you should be aware that all of your paid apps are permanently tied to the Google account that you used / created when you first set up the phone. This means that as long as you use the same credentials when setting up the new EVO you will find all off your purchased apps waiting for you in the market.
Second know that most of your personal data is stored on the SD card as opposed to the phone memory itself. If you reuse the same card you will likely find your data is waiting code you without using a backup restore utility.
Despite the above I am a fervent devotee to backing up and use several apps in tandem. I you only have one I think Titanium Backup is the way to go. My Backup Pro another alternative. These will backup and restore all of your apps with data so it is like you never lost a beat. They will even restore desktop layout and call logs or text messages.
My last advice is to get the free app called dropbox. T give you 2 gigs of online storage which get linked to a special folder on your phone. Put a file in the folder and it will get uploaded into your web vault. From there you can access the files from your PC as well.
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[Q] Can't restore apps from N7 using Titanium Backup

Just got an N5. My first smartphone although I have an N7. I'm trying to move my user apps and app data from the N7 to the N5 but the process is failing. I can't find good instructions that don't assume you are restoring to the same device or assume you have an SD card you can move between devices. I've checked threads here and can't find anything.
N7 3G (2012), Android 4.2.1 Unlocked, rooted, stock ROM
N5 Android 4.4.2 Unlocked, rooted, stock ROM
Titanium backup is installed on both. N7 does TB backups and syncs to Google drive.
I created a filter on the n7 of just the apps to transfer and did another backup of those and sync'd to Google Drive. I copied the files for the ones I wanted (based on files having a just change date/time) from Google Drive to the N5 and put them in a new directory. I set the new folder as the backup folder in titanium backup. Now when I go to TB on the N5 I can see the apps but they all have a line through them. When I try to batch restore, I get a message that ### elements failed. I turned on allow unknown sources and that didn't make a difference. If I select an app in the list, I have options to uninstall or delete.
I have a feeling it would be easier to use one of the newer apps designed just for apps but I've got this far. I don't know why I can't restore them via TB.
Im not a fan of titanium backup I think its a good app but it has no place anymore in kit kat and it just kills battery and resources... Just my opinion
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I did something similar with TB and this worked for me.
I strongly suggest you do it in steps. First step is go to Play Store, My Apps, All. Manually install each app fresh. (Don't panic...keep reading). If you didn't get the app from the Play Store, then copy the apk from your N7.
Once you have them all installed (fresh new versions, yay!) now open Titanium and press the middle tab (Backup/Restore). Go down the list and just tap the individual app name...a box pops up..press Restore...box pops up...Press Data Only. Done! Move on down the list, one by one. As you discovered, you can't batch restore this. It takes time, but they'll all work.
Whatever you do...DO NOT restore data to ANY SYSTEM APPS!. We don't need seeing another thread where you rushed and borked something
In fact, before you start, back up your N5..just in case.
Have fun.
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Thanks. I ended up using the migrate feature on MyBackup Pro. It was kind of slow but less hassle than looking up 150 apps on the play store and installing them. (I'm an app addict). Some of them failed though so I'll have to do those manually and then I'll try the restore in Titanium. Not touching system apps except I wanted to move my wifi hot spots over with passwords which Titanium can supposedly do.
Wondering if I could have use OTG to back them up and then restore to the new device. Found some threads on it but not sure if it would have worked.

Backup app data without root?

This is the first time I have bought a phone without a known method for rooting. I have always used Titanium Backup to backup and restore apps+data whenever I bought a new phone but unfortunately without root, this won't work. Can some one suggest another method to transfer app data from my Oneplus 3T to Pixel 2? I tried Helium but it shows "Backup Disallowed" for several of my installed apps.
Did you try using the data transfer process that is part of the initial setup on the phone? It walks you through connecting a cable between your old phone and new one and then is supposed to transfer everything.
That said, people have had extremely inconsistent results with this. I've seen people say it transferred everything no problem. Others that it didn't work. For me in transferred a lot of phone settings, but not all, wifi passwords, but not contacts or calender data; and all it did with apps was redownload them from the store and not transfer the actual data and settings at all. I had to redo settings myself, manually copy data that was on the sdcard partition, and for any apps that had a feature to export their settings to a file and then reimport them on the other phone I did that by hand.
The other possible option that I'm aware of is to use the settings on your old phone that allows Google to backup your app data to the cloud and then sync it on the new phone. I did not do that, because I don't want Google to have all my personal information. But perhaps that works. I have the sense that the whole data transfer process works best when you just let Google invade your soul as deeply as possible, because that's what they are really after.
But those less than optimal options aside, I think that transferring app data without root is pretty much impossible, since most of it resides in the /data directory which is not accessible without root.
Yeah, this sucks. Personally this is the first and last time I will buy a device at the moment of release, before root is available.
Edit: Never mind, I see you already tried Helium
Android Debug Bridge is what you're looking for. In short: enable USB debugging, install ADB, connect to computer with USB.
You can backup an app with:
adb backup -f backupfileonyourcomputer.ab packagename
You can get the packagename from the address bar if you check the application page on Play Store in a browser.
Restoring an app:
adb restore backupfileonyourcomputer.ab
You could backup all apps at once, but then can only restore the whole bulk later. (Possible to extract apps, but it's tedious)
If you need more details just search for adb backup.
Cloud save is also working really well, as stated above, but some apps don't support it. I use adb to move those from one device to another. Finally some apps have backup disabled by the developers, well.... no luck if you have some of those.

What is the second best app to transfer apps / data to new 1+6?

Hello all,
as I am waiting for me new 1+6 and I am thinking about the best way to transfer apps / data etc. from my Redmi Note 4.
The best way to do it is Titanium - but that requires root on both phones.
There are other solutions, which require no root. Here are some of the apps people talk about: SHAREit; Xender or CLONEit
Has anyone here tried these (or similar) apps? What results did you get? Where your apps (all? some?) transferred with their settings / data intact?
Thank you for sharing your experience!
What's wrong with letting Google do it? I've done that with multiple phones. Not all settings transfer, but that's the case with TiBU sometimes too.
Thank you for the reply.
TiBu transferred for me so far (nearly) everything 100%. I will just root my phones - do not want the hassle of transferring 100+ apps and setting them up one by one... With TiBu when moving from one phone to another it took last time less than 5 minutes of set up (not counting the actual data transfer, but that the phone does by itself) and the new setup was exactly like the old one after that.
Google did not transfer for me most app data when I tried to use it (I have for example many apps from the Amazon app store - those are not very well transferred by Google). Plus I am on a Xiaomi phone currently and google app sync does not work so well on it
Just use titanium backup? Root your ****

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