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Looking to buy a very good Windows mobile fone
Suggest me - xperia - HTD HD - Omnia?
I personally like Xperia
my preferences are
keyboard, big screen[resolution]
Edit
so now I am confused between HTC HD and Xperia
Xperia plus points
[1] Panel interface
[2] its stylist
[3] Physical Keyboard
[4] Better talking time
[5] Cheaper price [I can get it much cheaper.. according to ebay auctions]
HTC HD plus points
[1] Bigger Screen
[2] 5MB camera [but no flash so no use for me though]
please write the reply why should i purchase phone of your choice.. you know...
aarat said:
please write the reply why should i purchase phone of your choice.. you know...
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HD has no flash for camera and no keyboard.. any one can please explain my how HD is better than Xperia?
non of them have flash for camera but some do have a led for camera but that's in a different league then real flash a much lower leagure at that
xda hd is better if one want a thiner device and no keyboard and like touch 3d
I recently was in the same boat and had the same selections as you. I opted for the omnia, first one I recieved I bricked trying to flash the official uk rom update downloaded directly from samsung site. The 2nd (still going) I nearly bricked again trying the same rom flash and ended up flashing a custom rom to recover it. There are quite a few owners having problems flashing roms (official ones mainly) over at modaco.
Overall the phone is pretty much the same, speed wise, as my trinity. I was swung to it by the memory size.
The gps works fine now I've done a tweak (again from modaco) and overall its a bit better than my old trinity (camera knocks spots off htc one).
Its a bit of a pain not being able to "see" some of my favorite software properly due to the unconventional screen size.
If I had tried an experia I might before taking the plunge I might have made a different choice.
Rudegar said:
non of them have flash for camera but some do have a led for camera but that's in a different league then real flash a much lower leagure at that
xda hd is better if one want a thiner device and no keyboard and like touch 3d
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xperia has flash mate
petest said:
I recently was in the same boat and had the same selections as you. I opted for the omnia, first one I recieved I bricked trying to flash the official uk rom update downloaded directly from samsung site. The 2nd (still going) I nearly bricked again trying the same rom flash and ended up flashing a custom rom to recover it. There are quite a few owners having problems flashing roms (official ones mainly) over at modaco.
Overall the phone is pretty much the same, speed wise, as my trinity. I was swung to it by the memory size.
The gps works fine now I've done a tweak (again from modaco) and overall its a bit better than my old trinity (camera knocks spots off htc one).
Its a bit of a pain not being able to "see" some of my favorite software properly due to the unconventional screen size.
If I had tried an experia I might before taking the plunge I might have made a different choice.
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Omnia has smaller screen.. so its not advisable for me at least i need 800px wide screen
is there something you tell me which make me to purchase Omnia?
aarat said:
Omnia has smaller screen.. so its not advisable for me at least i need 800px wide screen
is there something you tell me which make me to purchase Omnia?
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Get the HD and then u have the best PPC and the support of this XDA Forum!
btw...there's many threads around here on your same topic.
galaxys said:
Get the HD and then u have the best PPC and the support of this XDA Forum!
btw...there's many threads around here on your same topic.
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xperia is also listed here.. so i think i will get support for that too?
aarat said:
xperia is also listed here.. so i think i will get support for that too?
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SE Xperia is a great device, i have been using it much and got it couple of months ago.
being a developer my self helped me getting the max out of this great device.
i will really never replace it with anything else.
very reliable and trustworthy, good build quality and great design.
i say SE Xperia X1
good luck in your choice.
Well what is xperia missing that HD has without the keyboard?... and the answer is *drumb tap* g-sensor... well my opinion is that if you don't need g-senor but would like a hardwarekeyboard the go for xperia.. well i wanted both features of xperia and HD, well both of the have bigger screen than Raphael but Raphael was my final choice and i do not regret it any time .. well i suggest you to go throguh some youtube videos with unboxing and user experience and check some applications both have and so forth..
My 2 cents, just MHO:
XPERIA X1 beats any current device because:
1- Beautiful blend between hightech and artwork
2- Beautiful blend between SONY and HTC
3- Beautiful WVGA 800x640 Sony screen (bye bye HTC Raphael/Touch Pro)
4- Cool metal case in two colours (aurevoir HTC diamond)
5- Useful hardware keyboard (so long HTC Touch HD)
6- Windows Mobile inside a Sony !! LOTS of apps and tweaks available (ciao iPhone)
7- The biggest ammount of RAM currently available
8- Sony Panels interface plus the abitlity to add TouchFlo3D as another panel
9- microSD card slot up to 16GMB (and 32GB soon)
10- Long lasting big battery, bigger than many others
11- Small and comfortable form factor (not as thick as Tytn or Touch Pro)
12- Etc etc etc
You get a great Phone from Sony Ericsson, a portable office from Microsoft, a Walkman from Sony and worldwide connectivity (choose from X1a or X1i) from HTC-qualcomm
What else do you want ??
thx gtrab your post helped me lot
can you tell me.. really it support 16GB card? cool
when do you think 32gb will be available..
and if I purchase now.. these days.. this production is more stable? or should I wait more?
aarat said:
thx gtrab your post helped me lot
can you tell me.. really it support 16GB card? cool
when do you think 32gb will be available..
and if I purchase now.. these days.. this production is more stable? or should I wait more?
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Dunno when, mid year maybe
Go for a 16GB one, you wont regret, they cost around $55 on ebay and they are worth every penny
gtrab said:
Dunno when, mid year maybe
Go for a 16GB one, you wont regret, they cost around $55 on ebay and they are worth every penny
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No mate I meant about Xperia itself.. it supports 16GB now right? What I am asking is.. when new version of Xeria comes which will support 32GB, Actully 16GB also more than I need but just asking.
Does Xperia has stable version now? I saw couple of sellers who sells Xperia within $700 on Ebay. Are they stable versions?
its very simple for me, do you want a device that won't hardware fail on you within a year or not? If you want it to last more than a year then don't buy HTC (which includes experia).
EVERY HTC device I have owned has been back for at least one warranty repair. These include a Blueangel, TyTN, TyTN2 and .... actually i lied, my Touch Diamond is now in a draw - broken.
edit: Sorry, should make it clear. My 16gig Omnia, with its extra 16gig card, is working like a dream with no signs of any hardware failures. HTC, awesome specs .... crap build quality. All of this ofc, is in my experience.
aarat said:
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my preferences are
keyboard, big screen[resolution]
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Then the Omnia is NOT the choice of phone for you as a; it doesn't have a keyboard and b;its a low res. Shame, really as the low res screen has two BIG advantages - 1 its fast as f*&k and 2 it uses far less battery.
Be sure if you are going to buy the XPeria to check out DEFECTS: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447211
It seems, HTC made the same mistake with the Universal. I voted for the Xperia, because of the keyboard.
Oh my days ........ that is very shocking . (Well, actually, given who make it, no its not at all)
And the case for the prosecution rests your honor.
Buy HTC manufactured devices at your peril.......
Monty Burns said:
its very simple for me, do you want a device that won't hardware fail on you within a year or not? If you want it to last more than a year then don't buy HTC (which includes experia).
EVERY HTC device I have owned has been back for at least one warranty repair. These include a Blueangel, TyTN, TyTN2 and .... actually i lied, my Touch Diamond is now in a draw - broken.
edit: Sorry, should make it clear. My 16gig Omnia, with its extra 16gig card, is working like a dream with no signs of any hardware failures. HTC, awesome specs .... crap build quality. All of this ofc, is in my experience.
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so you are saying No HTC phone is good? No Windows mobile phone is good[most of Win mobos are by HTC!)? What I should do if I want a Win Mobo?
Okey so I want an awsome phone with GPS, wifi, touch screen with a big screen, a new release, good OS, money is not a problem I will use it for SMS, IM (Skype), browsing internet, music, gaming and etc (CPU Snapdragon pls)
P.S. Sorry for my bad english, cheers
edruig said:
Okey so I want an awsome phone with GPS, wifi, touch screen with a big screen, a new release, good OS, money is not a problem I will use it for SMS, IM (Skype), browsing internet, music, gaming and etc (CPU Snapdragon pls)
P.S. Sorry for my bad english, cheers
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Ok, I did not check the CPU, but if money is no object, go to HTCs website and look at the details for these:
1) HTC Shift
2) HTC HD2
3) HTC Hero
4) HTC Touch Pro/2
5) HTC Touch Diamond 2
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Ok, I did not check the CPU, but if money is no object, go to HTCs website and look at the details for these:
1) HTC Shift
2) HTC HD2
3) HTC Hero
4) HTC Touch Pro/2
5) HTC Touch Diamond 2
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HTC Shift - too big..
HTC HD2 - it looks great, the size the shape and even the CPU
HTC Hero - don't like the design
HTC Touch Pro 2 -too slow
HTC Touch Diamond 2 - too slow and don't like the design..
What about Nexus one?
You can always use pdadb.net for help on choosing a device
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdachooser
Hardware keyboard needed?...
WM or Android?...
Size screen?...
For WM get the HD2!
I can vouch for the Nexus One. Google-supported, meaning lots of rom updates (hopefully), lots of great features out of the box, intuitive UI, speedy phone with the Snapdragon processor.
If you get one, try and protect the screen. It seems that the screen can get hairline scratches easily. Treat it like your child
orb3000 said:
You can always use pdadb.net for help on choosing a device
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdachooser
Hardware keyboard needed?...
WM or Android?...
Size screen?...
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Hardware keyboard needed? not really, i can use virtual keyboard
WM or Android? doesnt matter, but wich one is better and has more programs and games
Size screen? tbe bigger the better
No anserws, bump. :|
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Size screen? tbe bigger the better
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Leo is your way
orb3000 said:
Leo is your way
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You mean HD2?
Hello, I recently broke my Samsung i600`s display, and I need to replace it...
But when I look at ebay.com, more of the displays are for i607 and they don`t say anything about compatibility with i607
Does anyone know if the displays of the two phones are compatible
Basically it`s the same phone, the difference is that i607 doesn`t have WiFi and 3G...
the case is the same, the specifications are the same, the outside look is the same.. But anyway i`m not sure if the i607`s screen will work with the i600
If anyone can help...
Thanks in advance
Hello,
I am looking to buy a new android smartphone, no contract, with T-Mobile. It's for my mother; her main criterion is having a big screen. I looked around and found this:
4.7 Inch Touch Screen Dual Core Android 4.1 Phone "Vanern"
www(DOT)chinavasion(DOT)com/china/wholesale/Android_Phones/Large_Screen_Android_Phones/4.7_Inch_Touch_Screen_Dual_Core_Android_4.1_Phone_Vanern_-_3G_512MB_RAM_4GB_ROM/
(Sorry, I can't post links yet.)
I could not find much info about this phone at all except at the website where it's sold. Does this phone go by another name in the US, or is it really some foreign phone with not much info available? Would it still be possible to root and flash a custom ROM for this phone?
Also, if you have recommendations for other budget, big-screen phones, please let me know. Thank you.
Hello guys, I am Thomas from Hong Kong. I had bought the HTC E8 (white colour) China Unicom version through online. Used for a week and would like to write a simple unboxing here.
The phone costs me RMB 2999. Package includes: the phone itself, a China brand Power Bank, screen protector, Dot View case and 16G Toshiba class 4 micro SD card. There are several colours of Dot View case and the online seller randomly choose a grey one for me.
The front of the phone is identical with HTC M8, but the back comes with plastic instead of metal like M8. Packing phone, Antutu benchmark screen capture and some sample photos are attached below. I zip the sample photos for convenience.
My using experience:
1. It is a dual sim phone. Sim 1 support 4G network while Sim 2 only support 2G network
2. 5 inch size is perfect for single hand control when compare with the last phone I use ----- LG G Pro which has 5.3 inch of screen
3. With the S801 CPU, it runs very smooth
4. English, Chinese simplified and Chinese tradition (Taiwan) are available as system language.
5. It is compatible with M8 screen protector (I am using a M8 Glass M screen protector and it works great) but NOT compatible with M8 case protector as the position of camera is different
6. There are some local (Mainland China) apps.Some can be uninstall by default. Some cannot unless root the phone.
7. Blinkfeed is available in this phone but the region is set to China only. It only support those Chinese social network apps and IM apps, such as weibo, wechat. It cannot support facebook, twitter.
8. There is no google service by default. However, I can download an app called "GMS Installer" through the HTC Marketplace comes with the phone. Open GMS Installer and it will help you to download and install those google service such as google play, google map etc.
9. Battery is non removable. It can add micro SD Card. NFC is also available in this phone.
10. With daily usage such as listening music, instant messaging, social networking, internet access, the phone can be used around 10 hours or something.
Feel free to ask question, thanks
Hi Thomas,
Is the phone sim-locked to China Unicom?
Thanks.
hendrickchan said:
Hi Thomas,
Is the phone sim-locked to China Unicom?
Thanks.
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No, there is no sim lock for this phone. I can use the operator in HK without problem
What do you mean with not supporting facebook and twitter?
After installing Google Services, you can't install facebook or twitter from Google Play?
My mistake, I understand this only applies to Blinkfeed.
Where did you get your phone from? Merimobiles? Efox?
Regarding the non-uninstallable chinese apps, are they always-on, battery-draining services or something you can just ignore without any consequence?
Thank you.
ToTTenTranz said:
What do you mean with not supporting facebook and twitter?
After installing Google Services, you can't install facebook or twitter from Google Play?
My mistake, I understand this only applies to Blinkfeed.
Where did you get your phone from? Merimobiles? Efox?
Regarding the non-uninstallable chinese apps, are they always-on, battery-draining services or something you can just ignore without any consequence?
Thank you.
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First of all, please forgive my poor English which cause you misunderstand.
I bought it from jd.com and collect though their pickup point in Shenzhen, China
For those non uninstallable Chinese apps, I still can Force close and disable the apps through Setting>Apps
haha e8 costs me RMB 2940 :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
Thank you Thomas for this review
i have 2 question please:
Is there a logo unicom on the back ?
Did it come with Google maps, playstore, etc.?
alfa7d said:
Thank you Thomas for this review
i have 2 question please:
Is there a logo unicom on the back ?
Did it come with Google maps, playstore, etc.?
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1. no
2. no
Hi Thomas,
first thanks for your information about the E8.
I have the chance to get one too but i would like to know some details before buying.
Maybe you can help me ?
How is th dual-sim-menue in th E8 ? How does it differ in the top-line ?
I have S4 Dual-Sim GT-I9502. Can you set in the pull down menü the main sim ? Switching that fast ?
How far is rooting ? Doesnt work the tools from M8 ?
Did you use it in Europe already ?
Did you get the normal Google playstore over the GSM-Installer from HTC-Marketplace ?
Did you try the "more local"-app for different languages ?
Did you get updates OTA already ? Buildnumber ! Android 4.4.2 ?
Next week comes here in germany/austria/swiss the HTC ONE M8 Dual SIm. This is an exact copy of the "normal" M8 only with two sims.
Body is in full metal, camera is same as in M8, everything same, but only two sims.
Attention !!! The prize is 5770 RBM (680€) !!! Thats much. Ok , fine that they bring it to europe but prizing is really high.
OK, when i order from etotalk etc prizing is same espically when customs duty has to pay.
Thanks for your answers,
Regards
goes like hell
alfa7d said:
Thank you Thomas for this review
i have 2 question please:
Is there a logo unicom on the back ?
Did it come with Google maps, playstore, etc.?
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There is no China Unicom on the back. However, you can see the China Unicom when you power on or power off the device.
No Google Playstore, Google Maps by default. The method of adding them had been mentioned in the 1st post
goes_like_hell said:
Hi Thomas,
first thanks for your information about the E8.
I have the chance to get one too but i would like to know some details before buying.
Maybe you can help me ?
How is th dual-sim-menue in th E8 ? How does it differ in the top-line ?
I have S4 Dual-Sim GT-I9502. Can you set in the pull down menü the main sim ? Switching that fast ?
How far is rooting ? Doesnt work the tools from M8 ?
Did you use it in Europe already ?
Did you get the normal Google playstore over the GSM-Installer from HTC-Marketplace ?
Did you try the "more local"-app for different languages ?
Did you get updates OTA already ? Buildnumber ! Android 4.4.2 ?
Next week comes here in germany/austria/swiss the HTC ONE M8 Dual SIm. This is an exact copy of the "normal" M8 only with two sims.
Body is in full metal, camera is same as in M8, everything same, but only two sims.
Attention !!! The prize is 5770 RBM (680€) !!! Thats much. Ok , fine that they bring it to europe but prizing is really high.
OK, when i order from etotalk etc prizing is same espically when customs duty has to pay.
Thanks for your answers,
Regards
goes like hell
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Dear Mr .....Um.....Mr Hell,
1. I would say the dual sim menu is nothing special. I had done some screen capture related to dual sim menu, you may take a look.
2. There is no option related to dual sim in the pull down menu like the Samsung GS4 dual sim version. When you want to make a call or send out sms, after you press the number or input sms text, you need to choose which sim card you want to use for dial or sms. Screen capture of dial menu and sms menu is attached for you reference.
3. I did not try root this phone yet.
4. I do not have chance to use it in Europe yet. Maybe I have if I can save more money and go travel to Europe
5. Yes, I can get the normal Google Playstore through the GMS Installer
6. Yes, I use apps come with Traditional Chinese, Simplified Chinese, English. No problems are found.
7. It comes with Android 4.4.2. By the way, I received OTA updates today. I update it but I can't find any difference
About the dual sim version of HTC M8, I think wtf it is not just worth that expensive. If you are not that in need of 4G dual sim phone, I suggest you can wait as we can expect more of 4G dual sim phone is coming in the future. But if you really want one right now, E8 is good.
Regards,
Thomas
Hi Thomas,
you can say "goes" to me !
Thanks for you detailed discription and for the pics.
Same with me for the prize of the M8. Thats why i am going on E8. And i think on E8 is more community in the future. I dont have 4G Sim at the moment but it is my favourite to go on Dual-Sim. Right now i have the gt-i9502 (S4) in use. My N9002 (Note3) i sold to a friend.
And now i need a new toy !
By the way before i forgot. Is on HTC something like Knox (on Samsung) ? Knox-trigger to see someone has done flashing Custom-ROM or anything else ?
With the "more local-app" i mean https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.c_lis.ccl.morelocale to set language you want.
Playstore-link from europe !!! Didnt try this app !!! Read ratings !!!). This app can set language you want without root.
When i read right what you write you cant define the default sim that is used always when you dial except you chosse explicit the other one ? See my pics: First one in the menue bar the one which is active is squared around. Second one: When menue is pulled down there a two buttons, one for sim1 as default and the second for second as default. How does HTC manage that ?
Regards
Mr. Hell, Goes like
Hi Thomas.
Good post, I am envious that you got the dot case included for that price.
I purchased an E8 in shanghai yesterday and had to pay 3,200 RMB as they have sold out everywhere, and the demand is high.
I obviously want to root my phone so that I can either:
a) install Google apps and remove bloatware (yes I have run the GMS installer app but prefer to have full root control
or
b) flash a European ROM as they become available in the near future.
I haven't as yet seen any Custom Recoveries for this device yet.. I have been watching here: http://bbs.gfan.com/forum-1513-type-10958.html as I expected that they might become available there first. Are you aware of any other sites in China that might have a custom recovery available yet?
thanks thomas for the tips ,I hope the device to come in greece...
Hi,
Additional question to my post #12:
In german forum we have a discussion whether it is really DualSim-Full-active DSFA or Dual-Standby.
Can someone who has that device ensure what kind of Dual-Sim it has ?
Does it have nano or micro sim ?
Thanks a lot !
goes like hell
Dear Thomas,
Why the sample photos are in 4MP? Is not the E8 have 13MP camera?
goes_like_hell said:
Hi Thomas,
you can say "goes" to me !
Thanks for you detailed discription and for the pics.
Same with me for the prize of the M8. Thats why i am going on E8. And i think on E8 is more community in the future. I dont have 4G Sim at the moment but it is my favourite to go on Dual-Sim. Right now i have the gt-i9502 (S4) in use. My N9002 (Note3) i sold to a friend.
And now i need a new toy !
By the way before i forgot. Is on HTC something like Knox (on Samsung) ? Knox-trigger to see someone has done flashing Custom-ROM or anything else ?
With the "more local-app" i mean https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.c_lis.ccl.morelocale to set language you want.
Playstore-link from europe !!! Didnt try this app !!! Read ratings !!!). This app can set language you want without root.
When i read right what you write you cant define the default sim that is used always when you dial except you chosse explicit the other one ? See my pics: First one in the menue bar the one which is active is squared around. Second one: When menue is pulled down there a two buttons, one for sim1 as default and the second for second as default. How does HTC manage that ?
Regards
Mr. Hell, Goes like
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After an online search, Knox is something like security apps right? HTC does not provide such kinds of apps.
For the "Morelocale 2" you suggest, according to the description of the apps, it will work only if you root the phone or use the development tool to do some modification. I am not plan to root the phone at this moment (maybe later if some good custom roms come out) and the development tool is a little bit difficult for me. I had tried and install the apps, but without root or using development tools, it wont work.
For the dual sim, I had tried my best to explore every corner of the phone, there is no way to set which sim is default. I also attached the homescreen here, Unlike your GS4 dual sim version, the signal of 2 sims show with nothing special.
kiwiandy said:
Hi Thomas.
Good post, I am envious that you got the dot case included for that price.
I purchased an E8 in shanghai yesterday and had to pay 3,200 RMB as they have sold out everywhere, and the demand is high.
I obviously want to root my phone so that I can either:
a) install Google apps and remove bloatware (yes I have run the GMS installer app but prefer to have full root control
or
b) flash a European ROM as they become available in the near future.
I haven't as yet seen any Custom Recoveries for this device yet.. I have been watching here: http://bbs.gfan.com/forum-1513-type-10958.html as I expected that they might become available there first. Are you aware of any other sites in China that might have a custom recovery available yet?
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Dear Kiwiandy,
OMG WTF they sell it that expensive in Shanghai? Is it include the Dot View case, Powerbank, screen protector and the TF Card? I suggest if you wanna get a phone in China, ask you colleague or friend to help you order online. The price should be more reasonable.
I am also waiting for a custom rom so that the blinkfeed can support facebook, twitter. Support of weibo, wechat not useful to me indeed.
goes_like_hell said:
Hi,
Additional question to my post #12:
In german forum we have a discussion whether it is really DualSim-Full-active DSFA or Dual-Standby.
Can someone who has that device ensure what kind of Dual-Sim it has ?
Does it have nano or micro sim ?
Thanks a lot !
goes like hell
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Just conduct a small test. It is a Dual Standby phone only. I use sim 1 to dial out some kinds of service hotline and I use my mother's phone to call my sim 2 no, sim 2 can't connect.
And it use nano sim for both sim slots
skr_xd said:
Dear Thomas,
Why the sample photos are in 4MP? Is not the E8 have 13MP camera?
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When I make the 1st post, I am not allowed to post external link for photo. I just found that I can do so now. Right click for original size. The quality of the photo is much or less the same as the last phone I had, the LG G Pro