hi..
when playing ingress my battery can reach up to 50 -52 degrees celius, while my CPU can go to 60-70, sometimes the phone shuts itself down.
are there any packages i can use with heat sink or something similar to vent off the heat ?
emaayan said:
hi..
when playing ingress my battery can reach up to 50 -52 degrees celius, while my CPU can go to 60-70, sometimes the phone shuts itself down.
are there any packages i can use with heat sink or something similar to vent off the heat ?
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Is your phone in a case? Many of them would act as insulators, trapping heat inside. Running without a case will probably help it stay cool. Also, I think the unit will run cooler with the keyboard open.
I've got nothing to productive to contribute to this conversation other than I've noticed this too.
The phone will be unbearably hot to hold. I've tried to see if any application were running in the background, eating up resources, but there's nothing consistent that I can report. Some days my phone will go all day long without any problems. Other days, the phone just drains the battery really fast, gets really hot, and displays an over-heating message. The only thing I've been able to do is shut the phone down and remove the battery and wait a few minutes until it's cool to the touch, then put it back in.
Same and this is a relatively new issue.
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I've got nothing to productive to contribute to this conversation other than I've noticed this too.
The phone will be unbearably hot to hold. I've tried to see if any application were running in the background, eating up resources, but there's nothing consistent that I can report. Some days my phone will go all day long without any problems. Other days, the phone just drains the battery really fast, gets really hot, and displays an over-heating message. The only thing I've been able to do is shut the phone down and remove the battery and wait a few minutes until it's cool to the touch, then put it back in.
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Are you on stock?
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Are you on stock?
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I am on stock... how's the CM build coming along?
emaayan said:
when playing ingress my battery can reach up to 50 -52 degrees celius, while my CPU can go to 60-70, sometimes the phone shuts itself down.
are there any packages i can use with heat sink or something similar to vent off the heat ?
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I used to play Ingress about 6 months ago on my old Cliq2 and I can confirm it uses a lot of resources. My phone used to crash all the time due to, I guess, not enough memory. And it was rooted and fully debloated.
You won't be able to easily extract the heat from inside your phone. One thing you could try is to play without the back cover. Just tape the battery so that it doesn't fall. You'll have to be careful to not damage anything that will be exposed on the back though.
Another thing you can also do is slow down your CPU using some app. If using CM 10.2 it's very easy to do. Go to the performance settings and choose a lower maximum frequency.
Finally, the last idea I can offer is to tether your phone and play using a tablet. The best setup I've seen is some guy having a tethering cell phone in a backpack, with a large extra battery connected to both the cell phone and the tablet he was actually playing from. He could play all day like that.
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I am on stock... how's the CM build coming along?
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Well we're officially supported on CM so not bad I suppose ;p
CM-10.2 will run cooler than stock due to use of AVS. This dynamically adjusts the CPU voltage levels to reduce power consumption and heat, even when the CPU is running full out.
Also note that not all CPUs are created equal. Some require significantly more power to run stable than others. If your bootloader is sending sec_pvs=fafa as a kernel commandline argument, then it means that somebody up at samsung or qualcomm has determined that your CPU needs full on maximum power, which basically means that it will be un-nice on battery and heat. PERIOD.
To reduce heat levels, run it connected to a >= 1 Amp wall charger (to keep it from sucking off the battery -- note: NOT a USB port), keyboard open (more surface area = more heat dissipation), and BACK COVER REMOVED (reduce insulation).
I've noticed that the phone can get warm, but the only time I've had overheating issues was either a) during a long rsync-over-SSH run on Wi-Fi, or b) phone left in car on a hot day with GPS and navigation (either Google or Sygic) running. The latter was fixable by running the air conditioning.
In my experience, it has just been hot enough to shut down charging, not the entire phone.
I've just ditched the case, mostly because the plastic tabs don't work very well. I'll have to see what this does to thermal behavior.
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Anyone elses phone heat up behind the sim card after 10 mins of use?
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yep, once that dual core cpu starts getting use it gets HOT
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yep, once that dual core cpu starts getting use it gets HOT
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Is it the processor or radio?
Every HTC Android phone I have had (G1, MTS3G, G2, MTS4G) gets hot at the bottom of the phone when I am online with it, regardless if it's network or WiFi...they always get warm when I am online. Today every time I touched my phone it was warm at the bottom, as if I was online. So I force closed pretty much everything, especially things that may transfer data...but it stayed warm and my battery started was at 75% after 3 hours of pretty much no use. No calls, no internet, no texts, no games...just me shutting down programs. So I turned off my network. After that, the phone cooled off and my battery lasted longer than usual. But even then it's almost dead already.
Either the processor is simply too much for this battery, or there are things running in the background that are constantly streaming data. Either way root needs to come quick, or this thing is going in the box and the G2 is coming back out.
weird that only happens while i'm charging and doing something it at the same time.
Yeah, i've noticed it too. I also noted that it's right over where the battery itself is.
I chalk it up to how quickly the battery is being used, and these types of batteries aren't so great when you drain them fast. The inefficiencies start to show and they heat up.
I think getting a larger capacity battery, like the ones being talked about in this thread, might help lower the temperature. If the drain remains mostly constant at high output like that, spreading the load over a larger discharge range won't tax the battery itself as harshly.
Anyone with a higher capacity battery then stock notice it not getting as warm?
Hey guys, so I was playing asphalt 8 and tbh I never really noticed if my phone was getting hot or not, but it was connected to a charger while I was playing and then I felt that the phone was really damn hot in the processor area, I have no idea if that's normal or not but I tried to play while not charging and it seemed less hot but still noticeable hotness , I use elementalx 0.7 kernel and I undervolted the device relatively to a small volt ( 725 mins ) while the first option was 750 or stock, is this an issue that I should address now or is it normal?
I apologize upfront if I sound like an *ss, but have you ever wondered why PC processors need a heat sync and fan to keep it cool? use that same logic and apply it to an even smaller area with no fan and using a lot of processing power to play a graphics heavy game, plus charging will warm the battery.
it's normal for the phone to get warm/hot while doing this... but if it gets too hot to touch, then it's a problem... although by that point the phone should have already powered itself down to protect itself from heat damage.
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I apologize upfront if I sound like an *ss, but have you ever wondered why PC processors need a heat sync and fan to keep it cool? use that same logic and apply it to an even smaller area with no fan and using a lot of processing power to play a graphics heavy game, plus charging will warm the battery.
it's normal for the phone to get warm/hot while doing this... but if it gets too hot to touch, then it's a problem... although by that point the phone should have already powered itself down to protect itself from heat damage.
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That's alright, I know my knowledge is jack s*** and I am still learning , but nope device haven't turned off or anything, just got really hot while it was charging but i could still hold it it wasn't that hot that I had to drop the phone or anything..
Charging the phone alone heats up the battery. If you play 3D games at the same time that's about as hot as your phone can get and this might degrade the battery faster. If the phone was already 100% charged and you're still plugged in that's a better option.
Luckily the phone also charges quickly with the standard charger so just put it down for a couple hours and you're good to go.
Hi everyone,
I'm about a week-long user of the M8 so far, and I'm loving it. I've been a fairly long time HTC user as well - I started with the Ozone, then fell back to a feature phone until I picked up the Incredible 2, which lasted for a long time.
At any rate, I'm no stranger to hot phones, literally. During my commute back and forth to work, I would use my Inc. 2 to record the drive with Dailyroads Voyager, while simultaneously monitoring road conditions with Waze. My good old Inc. 2 would power through those tasks like a boss, while at the same time burning up, and usually unable to pull enough power from the car USB charger. The only way to keep my phone stable was by running my car's defroster to blow cold air over the phone.
Now that I'm up to date hardware-wise, the M8 is no exception in the power house category. It can even keep charging while it's doing these things, although it does still get pretty warm. It's currently in a protective case which seems to dissipate the heat pretty well.
My question is, how warm do you guys let your M8 get? (Note: I'm rooted, but still running stock with no sort of overclocking involved.)
The only time I've ever had heat issues was when I mounted the phone to use as gps. And this was under direct 90 degree heat. Other than that, I've had no problems with heat whatsoever, even on prolonged lte usage and video watching.
My experience might be isolated though. I'd say, if your phone is uncomfortably hot to touch, you should probably ease up on it to be safe.
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The only time I've ever had heat issues was when I mounted the phone to use as gps. And this was under direct 90 degree heat. Other than that, I've had no problems with heat whatsoever, even on prolonged lte usage and video watching.
My experience might be isolated though. I'd say, if your phone is uncomfortably hot to touch, you should probably ease up on it to be safe.
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Yeah, always with the GPS navigation it seems. I wonder if this is something that can be fixed software wise (I.E filling a bug report to Waze/DRV), or if it's more on HTC's end for software/hardware...
I would assume it was just the metal body absorbing direct sunlight but I might be wrong. My HTC rezound used to double as a portable heater the way it used to get hot with extended usage. This one doesn't seem to be like that though.
Usually only heats when running tether for a period.
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Hi everyone,
I'm about a week-long user of the M8 so far, and I'm loving it. I've been a fairly long time HTC user as well - I started with the Ozone, then fell back to a feature phone until I picked up the Incredible 2, which lasted for a long time.
At any rate, I'm no stranger to hot phones, literally. During my commute back and forth to work, I would use my Inc. 2 to record the drive with Dailyroads Voyager, while simultaneously monitoring road conditions with Waze. My good old Inc. 2 would power through those tasks like a boss, while at the same time burning up, and usually unable to pull enough power from the car USB charger. The only way to keep my phone stable was by running my car's defroster to blow cold air over the phone.
Now that I'm up to date hardware-wise, the M8 is no exception in the power house category. It can even keep charging while it's doing these things, although it does still get pretty warm. It's currently in a protective case which seems to dissipate the heat pretty well.
My question is, how warm do you guys let your M8 get? (Note: I'm rooted, but still running stock with no sort of overclocking involved.)
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That's been my experience from the Inc 2, as well. So it seems like the mobile radio may generate quite a bit of heat...
I recently accidentally let my M8 get too hot while listening to music with it laying in direct sunlight face up. Didn't think about the black screen absorbing so much heat, got so hot it went into safety shut-off. It was almost too hot to touch, but after a couple minutes off it was relatively cool and turned back on fine with no problems or battery issue.
Low 40s Celsius is when I start to get uncomfortable. It's still safe, I just simply don't like it that warm. I get mad when my OC'd Intel cpu hits 60c even though 75+ is fine. I'm just anal about temps I guess
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As hot as it wants, it'll turn off by itself if it ever reaches critical temperatures
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My Car mount clips onto the AC vents so my phone is always cool (I block some of the air through. Too cold isn't good either(
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I agree that the only time (and it was only once) my unit got hot was while I was using it in its car mount and GPS was on. Otherwise I have seen none of the heart issues that plagued my Rezound and my Incredible.
My name's Harold and I'm a flashaholic....
I usually put it in preheated to 400 degrees and flip halfway through at 10 minutes.
Suits my needs.
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I like to burn things
But really though, I keep her around 451°F
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If you're rooted, install XPosed and than install "CPU Temp in StatusBar" to keep really good track of the temps. Mine doesn't ever get over 110F, even under hard WiFi and streaming use. I've never used it for GPS in the car. At idle, it sits under 80F.
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If you're rooted, install XPosed and than install "CPU Temp in StatusBar" to keep really good track of the temps. Mine doesn't ever get over 110F, even under hard WiFi and streaming use. I've never used it for GPS in the car. At idle, it sits under 80F.
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Thank you, I've been looking for a CoreTemp-like feature for my phone. I'll give this a try!
I've been hammering on my new m8 (swapping roms, installing massive amounts of apps, running tests, playing games ) for over a day and the phone has never gotten beyond lukewarm. Nothing close to what my m7 used to do
I never look at the temp. It will auto throttle if it gets too hot anyway. Just use the phone how you want and don't worry about it...
Well, I gave the temp monitoring thing a try (very cool!) and I don't think my phone ever passed 65 degrees Celsius, which I guess is ok. So no worries it seems!
That's a hundred and forty nine degrees F. Lol you need more ac.
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That's a hundred and forty nine degrees F. Lol you need more ac.
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I think I'm still doing better than your 451 degrees
I have received my P6a yesterday..
And I can feel device getting warm with normal use like WhatsApp, Phone call & Instagram...
Can feel device getting warm even when I'm using Wi-Fi..
It starts heating(because it's more than just warm) when charging...
Any fix or suggestion is welcomed..
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I have received my P6a yesterday..
And I can feel device getting warm with normal use like WhatsApp, Phone call & Instagram...
Can feel device getting warm even when I'm using Wi-Fi..
It starts heating(because it's more than just warm) when charging...
Any fix or suggestion is welcomed..
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When my Pixel 4 XL overheated, it was usually because I was charging and playing games on it at the same time. If it gets hot, then I would reboot it or leave it powered off for a minute. Could that be the case here?
Also, this is a new phone and you just installed a bunch of apps. My guess is that Android is likely evaluating and learning your habits so that it can optimize your battery and other stuff -- so there's alot of internal processing going on causing it to warm up.
Also, if you live in a city where the weather is warm or hot, then that'll make your phone warm or hot as well. So far, my 6a hasn't stayed warm very long except when I was transferring over/installing all my apps ... and it hasn't gotten hot yet.
The phone does get very warm, but it is also the middle of summer and we just set everything up. Tensor is also known for running on the toasty side. Unless your phone is warning you about excessive heat, it is within normal parameters.
it runs definitely warmer than a pixel 4 doing the same stuff.
I have sensor genius installed so it's logging temp 24/7. please do the same and let's share the graphs.
Mine is running substantially cooler using LTE rather than 5g, hopefully this is fixed through software updates.
I also put mine in LTE mode and it's much cooler. 5G is a bit overkill for mobile stuff at least for me, I just turn it on when using hotspot.
Ok, finally experienced the heating issue just doing normal browsing on LTE. Battery temp got up to around 43c on a cool day with no sunlight.
After some searching I found that turning off adaptive connectivity helps. After turning that off, temps are much better. I was in an area with poor signal so that likely was a part of it, but something else to try.
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Ok, finally experienced the heating issue just doing normal browsing on LTE. Battery temp got up to around 43c on a cool day with no sunlight.
After some searching I found that turning off adaptive connectivity helps. After turning that off, temps are much better. I was in an area with poor signal so that likely was a part of it, but something else to try.
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Another option to try is Disable Adaptive Battery, Disable 5G(If not necessary)..
I wouldn't worry too much. I absolutely assassinated my Pixel 3a XL. It was always hot. For couple of years. Huge amounts of onscreen time. Leaving it under blankets while charging on accident etc etc... Thing was fine. Also, a battery is only $12 and these pixels the easiest phones to open if you do somehow end up with severely reduced battery life couple years down the road
It's more the insane battery drain that goes along with the heat then the heat itself.
May be a CPU usage app that tracks what's taking up so much processor power.
My issue went away once I turned off adaptive connectivity.
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My issue went away once I turned off adaptive connectivity.
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Same. As in my country there is no 5G yet, I've changed to LTE preferred and phone is not hot anymore and battery doesn't drain.
It'd maybe gimp the overall performance some but u could try under-clocking your CPUs with FKM or EXKM while u track down the issue. (that is, if your bootloader is unlocked...in which case u could use BBS to track battery usage)
Many complain that the Pixel 6a gets hot or overheats. I have also seen videos were people claim it's only in the beginning while the phone "learns" your usage habits and how to optimize itself accordingly. But later on it doesn't need to run all of its processes like in the beginning once it figured you out, so to speak. (The exception being when you record a 1080 video at 60 frames, which even later on can get problematic.)
Can Pixel 6a users chime in here and recount their experiences? Does the overheating last past the first few weeks after purchasing it?
Bonus question: are the signal issues some complain of widespread, or not?
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I really want to get this phone, but I hesitate due to these two issues.
I didn't have overheating issues since I bought the phone 3 months ago.
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I didn't have overheating issues since I bought the phone 3 months ago.
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Even from day one?
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Even from day one?
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I have my 6a 2 weeks and I don't have any issues with overheating or bad signal.
Thanks.
Anyone else?
Overheating in the sense that it shuts down with a warning? No, never. But the phone does get annoyingly hot, especially when charging even if I'm not using it at all. That's the phone plus the weather in my country isn't helping. Phone regularly touches 40° according to battery guru, when charging can go up to 43°.
On WiFi things are very normal. Mobile data however is a very different animal. It you have poor signal especially expect this to get pretty hot. Like stated above though, not shut down hot just hotter than what I consider normal. 35-40c battery temps on stock with those conditions isn't unusual.
Initial setup for sure gets toasty as well.
For whatever reason (latest updates maybe?), I've noticed recently that not only does my 6a not overheat, but the battery consumption has dropped significantly. At my admittedly low level of active usage I can easily go two days and still be over 50%. I might try for three full days soon.
I dont have any problems with overhiting , i have phone about 30 days. Playing games recording at 4k no heat problems at all.
Damn bruh...another 'overheating' thread?
Yes. The 6a may get fairly warm in some specific use cases, but it doesn't actually overheat as in start throwin' out warning messages and start throttling or worse, crash/reboot that I've ever witnessed. Actually mine seems to run slightly 'less warm' since A13's beta 2 & 3...just before I flashed a custom kernel. A few things to consider besides differing usage scenarios. If you're using a case, it may not only hinder cooling a little but probably 'feels' less warm due to the insulating properties as well. I try to go with a minimalistic case...it may not provide a lotta cushion if dropped but I'm hoping the improved grip offsets that point. And ofc the thinner the skin to less it retains heat. I went with a grippy Spigen Liquid Air or something like that.
Above all, I keep in mind that the 6a has the same processor as the [email protected] P6 PRO and that also helps me to forgive n forget that it can get toasty at times...plus thst resulting Tensor 'grin-factor' tho...
...just my 2 centz ofc
If you're using mobile data or using the phone as a hotspot thing gets very warm.
Normally, I've only experienced the phone getting very warm when I'm playing a game and charging the phone at the same time. However, on a recent trip to a foreign country, my phone (and its camera) stopped working because it was hot outdoors (around 80°F) and I was outside for 30min or longer. My friends' iphones didn't overheat though.
I haven't experienced any signal problems.
Mine never overheats. Its just warm enough to be a hand warmer, but not enough to damage anything
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Normally, I've only experienced the phone getting very warm when I'm playing a game and charging the phone at the same time. However, on a recent trip to a foreign country, my phone (and its camera) stopped working because it was hot outdoors (around 80°F) and I was outside for 30min or longer. My friends' iphones didn't overheat though.
I haven't experienced any signal problems.
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...and it displayed an overheat popup warning? 'cuz it was 80F outside? I've been out with my 6a dozens of times in 80F+ weather and NEVER had my phone throw an overheat warning much less shutdown or lock up. You might have something wrong with ur phone if a warm day kills ur phone...js
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...and it displayed an overheat popup warning? 'cuz it was 80F outside? I've been out with my 6a dozens of times in 80F+ weather and NEVER had my phone throw an overheat warning much less shutdown or lock up. You might have something wrong with ur phone if a warm day kills ur phone...js
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No overheat warning. Phone felt very warm, froze up and apps would barely respond or it would keep on rebooting. Tried a few times to power off, wait a minute, and then power on to get that last photo, but didn't work. After I got out of the heat for a short time, phone went back to normal. Felt hotter like 95 degrees, but weather report said 80s.
Nothing wrong with my phone per se. My guess is that my phone was in direct sunlight for 30 min. I myself was dying from the heat. And before that, I was already taking pictures on and off for an hour (in the heat but not direct sunlight). I've used the phone before in hot weather without issue, but this time around, it was continued use and in direct sunlight.
My 6a definitely overheats and shuts down sometimes without warning. This has happened numerous times even when the phone is having light use (chrome or connected to android auto). I would say there are 2 factors. When the outside temperature is hot (35c or hotter - which currently in Australia is a daily occurance) and when the signal is not strong (also a very common occurrance here) - when this happens the phone can overheat and shutdown within minutes even with little use.
From my exp. signal strength seems to be the biggest issue. The pixel seems to literally burn through the power when signal is weak and get hot.
Generally I have had a 50% chance of getting a 'Your phone is hot' warning - other times it just turns off.
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My 6a definitely overheats and shuts down sometimes without warning. This has happened numerous times even when the phone is having light use (chrome or connected to android auto). I would say there are 2 factors. When the outside temperature is hot (35c or hotter - which currently in Australia is a daily occurance) and when the signal is not strong (also a very common occurrance here) - when this happens the phone can overheat and shutdown within minutes even with little use.
From my exp. signal strength seems to be the biggest issue. The pixel seems to literally burn through the power when signal is weak and get hot.
Generally I have had a 50% chance of getting a 'Your phone is hot' warning - other times it just turns off.
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You should RMA the phone. Sounds like a faulty device to me.
Also, just hot ambient temp does nothing to a phone. If it gets direct sunlight, thats unsafe for the device because of how hot it can get (if you measure temp in your car, it gets up to 60-70C+ easily.) If I use my car in hot sun, I aim an AC vent to its back and then the phone is super chill all through the ride.
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You should RMA the phone. Sounds like a faulty device to me.
Also, just hot ambient temp does nothing to a phone. If it gets direct sunlight, thats unsafe for the device because of how hot it can get (if you measure temp in your car, it gets up to 60-70C+ easily.) If I use my car in hot sun, I aim an AC vent to its back and then the phone is super chill all through the ride.
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Yes, I think I will RMA it. - I don't agree re ambient temp. My phone certainly seems to shut down more often when the ambient is hotter. Also, re the car. I had the phone in the glove box which is separately cooled to 21c and even then it would overheat, - I suspect related to poor signal. But yes - will RMA it.
Try safe mode first. You may have an app which is misbehaving. I've never had my 6a overheat, it will sometimes get a bit warm when charging, but that's it.