For those who don't know the Samsung Ativ Q is a touchscreen laptop that dual boots Windows 8 and Android 4.2.2, will this mean people will be able to port Android to any PC using the Q's files? It would be awesome for all touchscreen ultrabooks :3
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Actually Android is only emulated into a virtual machine.
You can already have that with Bluestack however the Samsung solution is more classy with the ability to pin Android apps to the Desktop and start them directly through it.
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Actually Android is only emulated into a virtual machine.
You can already have that with Bluestack however the Samsung solution is more classy with the ability to pin Android apps to the Desktop and start them directly through it.
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Exactly, Samsung just has a better VM Android running on the ATIV Q which allows for 1.5gb max RAM for Android, while Windows gets 2.5gb RAM, some more RAM can be allocated for Windows leaving Android with less than 1.5gb, you can also just shut down Dual OS and run Windows with 4gb RAM.
By the way, Samsung wasn't the first to debut a Dual OS hybrid, Asus did it first with their Transformer Book Trio.
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I notice a couple of phone in China which have xp on the phone including the (xphone) and a dual operating system with xp and android called the (via 500mhz mid). Why can't we make something like this in America??? I thought the touch pro 2 was a mini computer. Why has any abody hacked it to work on the touch pro 2
never going to happen.
this phone is running ARM cpu. XP is only for x86 cpu. there is no ARM version.
what you see is another OS made to look like XP or that phone is running x86 cpu.
Are you kidding? XP on a TP2? What he said.... not gonna happen. Not just for CPU type reasons. Even if XP could run on ARM architecture, the speed to boot would be so slow. You would at lease need a 1GHZ Snapdragon CPU, plus double the RAM.
I seen Windows 95 on a Pocket PC quite a few times. IMO, it sucks. Ancient tech, besides glitchy ass Win95... I'll pass.
What would be nice if there were an app that allowed you to run older 16 & 32 bit win 98 apps. There's still a number of apps I run on my current XP setup that are from the 400-600 mhz X86 era. Would be cool if I could run them on here
Windows XP Pirate Edition from Wikipedia. Please read this with an open mind.
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I believe theTouch Pro 2 should be a little better than a piece of crab pc right?
They claim you can play warcraft fast on a piece of crap computer. Why can't xp work? The only limitation for it to work be x86 processor that would be required to run it. If somebody could make xp run on a micro SD card similarly like what is being done with the android wouldn't this be awesome. To have a dual boot system with windows mobile being the primary OS and xp being the secondary OS running from a micro SD card.
despite the fact that windows xp is designed for x86 processors, what makes it more impossible is the fact that the source code is not publicly available. what makes the android port possible is the fact that it is an open source os.
And what about windows 98? a friend of mine, made run it in a htc touch! :O
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And what about windows 98? a friend of mine, made run it in a htc touch! :O
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and i bet it ran like crap
it was likely done through an emulator that emulated the x86 processor, the problem there is you need a lot higher specs than the system you are trying to emulate, 4x is the rule of thumb IIRC
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and i bet it ran like crap
it was likely done through an emulator that emulated the x86 processor, the problem there is you need a lot higher specs than the system you are trying to emulate, 4x is the rule of thumb IIRC
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This whole thing would be a mess - XP kinda sucks anyway - but if you want it on your phone just use logmein, gotomypc, or even the built-in RDP and just interface with a real PC. Better yet - interface with a real PC running win7.
i am wondering if its possible to do a full install of windows 7 on a viewsonic g tablet
Hi,
I don't think so ... All Windows versions, including Windows 7 are X86 code. The Gtab is using ARM CPU.
MS recently announced that their "next" Windows is suppose to be able to run on ARM, but that's a ways away (years?)...
Probably this thread is in the wrong forum, BTW...
Jim
Correct - the only Windows 7 tablets out there are x86 based. The closest thing that could work would be Windows CE, but there's really no point in bothering with that. Ubuntu or some other Linux distro would be a better solution, right now (and already being worked on).
A little bit of history - the earliest versions of Windows NT actually ran on several different types of CPU's. Over time, MS scaled back until only x86 was supported.
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damn. My school is a ***** and told me that they would only give internet if i had a windows device. Now i have to spoof my mack address every time(because i have my laptop registered) with my laptop mac address to acces the wifi.
If there is any chance to install any distro of windows(as /&%#€~¬ slowly as it can run) please tell me to have legal and easy internet connection at my school.
Hey, bumping this thread because of CES update I watched. From what I heard, when they showed the new version of Windows (don't get excited, they just showed some technical features, nothing big) they said that it would be able to run on ARM platforms, and actually showed it running on one. Do you think this would therefore work on the g-tab? Discuss?
Yes the upcoming Windows 8 could in theory work on the G-tab but until it's out and we have more info on it we don't know
Putting an ARM version of windows 8 on the gtab sounds plausible with Ubuntu working on it. The only problem I see is the gtabs 512 MB of ram when the minimum of vista and 7 is a gb. Maybe they'll scale it back for a win 8 tab edition but i doubt it.
but that is no problem; from what i read in an other post, Gtab has a 512 ddr2 ram and a free socket for you to put in more. In theory, you would be able to put up a lot of ram on the thing but i dont know how much the android distros support.
I also read that the g tab had a space for a 3g modem which i am intrested in even though i cant find the post where a guy opens the g tab to see the inside.
It's not a 'socket' it's solder points for more ram chips. but you could in theory add more ram but it's not going to be easy.
Google the Malata Zpad....its the same as the G Tablet with 1Gb ram and 3G and I can't imagine windows 8 is gonna be less of a memory hog than previous releases.
I am just wondering. I am a huge fan of android and am using Desire HD now. But I was wondering if a dual core tablet can be installed with Windows 7? I only need the W7 just to sync with my android phone. Maybe I can install RUU or any other ROMS in the future using my tablet.
Not quite sure what your asking here... Dual Core x86 processor tablets would probably run windows 7, Dual Core Arm Processor can not as windows is x86 processor specification and Android is Arm. All android devices are compatible to the best of my knowledge with windows 7 so if your worried about getting an android tablet and not having support for it then don't worry. Other than that i hope i answered your question.
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Windows 7 can only be installed on x86 systems. Older versions of Windows NT could be installed on other CPUs like Alpha and Power PC and Windows server has a version that can run on Itanium/IA-64 but they are dropping it.
Microsoft has claimed Windows 8 will run on ARM systems so when it comes out you may be able to use it but most programs won't run it.
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Windows 7 can only be installed on x86 systems. Older versions of Windows NT could be installed on other CPUs like Alpha and Power PC and Windows server has a version that can run on Itanium/IA-64 but they are dropping it.
Microsoft has claimed Windows 8 will run on ARM systems so when it comes out you may be able to use it but most programs won't run it.
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Does the dual boot Viewpad 10 use (x)86 processors? Is Android 1.6 the last or latest Android OS that can run on the (x)86 platform?
I'm just curious as to how Viewsonic gets both OS's to run on viewpad 10 platform, so this looks like a good place to ask about that.
Yes, Atom x86 CPU and Android 1.6 (last version to support x86).
Does the dual boot Viewpad 10 use (x)86 processors? Is Android 1.6 the last or latest Android OS that can run on the (x)86 platform?
I'm just curious as to how Viewsonic gets both OS's to run on viewpad 10 platform, so this looks like a good place to ask about that.
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Does the dual boot Viewpad 10 use (x)86 processors? Is Android 1.6 the last or latest Android OS that can run on the (x)86 platform?
I'm just curious as to how Viewsonic gets both OS's to run on viewpad 10 platform, so this looks like a good place to ask about that.
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Viewsonic's Viewpad 10 uses the intel atom cpu to my knowledge. I don't know the details behind it but have read that Android 1.6 is the last version of Android that can run on x86 architecture. Maybe a dev. will be able to explain that part.
It would have made lots of sense for Google to make 2.x and up compatible with x86/x64 but I suppose there may be politics involved (imho, it can't be much else, since Linux runs on everything and Android is based almost entirely on Linux)....or maybe it would be more work or too much code needed. Since 2.2 is meant primarily for phones first, maybe they didn't see a need to bloat it up.
I wouldn't mind if Android needed a 650MB-1GB install as long as it works well.
Here's a snippet, you will be able to find more if you google it....though I can't find a reason as to why myself.
Hi,
I don't know if VS did their own work or may have used stuff from the Android X86 project:
http://www.android-x86.org/
or something similar (I think that there are other efforts like this)...
As you can see, the project is currently on 1.6, but:
http://www.android-x86.org/#What_we_are_working_on_now
says their working on Froyo:
What we are working on now
Port Froyo to x86 (froyo-x86 branch)
OpenGL hardware accelerator to froyo-x86 (olv, cwhuang)
New x86 toolchain (cwhuang)
Ethernet update (Yi)
Automount for new vold (cwhuang)
New target sparta (Doug)
New target viewpad10 (Al Sutton)
New target viliv s5 (okwon)
Mplayer porting (okwon
BTW, if you have a Windows PC, you can actually run that Android (1.6) on it. I had done that earlier, before getting my Gtab.
Jim
As one of the members pointed out, and if you check out the hands ons that have been done recently, ViewPad10 does indeed use Androidx86 project. GREAT News is, they just released Froyo-x86 (http://www.android-x86.org/releases/release_2_2) and there is a specific ISO for the ViewPad10. I actually just ordered 5 from one of my vendors (1 to keep and 4 to sell) so I am definitely going to pop that Froyo-x86 in mine and see how it whirls! I'm very excited by the prospects of a dual boot Froyo7 tablet!
Did you load the 2.2 iso onto one, and if so how well did it work? I just want to use a copy of android so I can use the apps I already bought for my phone.
Some of the latest so called 'dual-boot' tablets are actually going to be using an android virtual machine which will run within windows.
If anyone's comfortable compiling their own kernel and drivers then they stand a chance of 'rolling their own' VM otherwise unless someone with the knowhow takes up the banner for a particular device, I would consider this option out of reach.
Which tablet devices have you seen running an Android VM? I ran the 2.2 live USB on my VPad10 but it was missing wifi. Everything else seems to run great. Its fast and functional! Except the wifi. :-(
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the v10 specific iso didn't support wifi?!?!?!?
VPad and Froyo
I've picked up a VPad10 and have tried upgrading Android to 2.2 and have found that the interface buttons seemed out of place . I had a hard time moving backwards through the various pages - I had to tap the upper right corner on the bar and tap a second time in order to move back to the previous screen.
I found the interface too different from the standard to make it useful. I've since reverted back to 1.6
I had difficulty loading the Froyo (.img.gz) version. I've tried opening the gz on my Linux machine (vcersus my Windows box) and still get the same problem. Can the Froyo beta be loaded as iso image like the others, it would make my life easier?
I placed an order for the 10" gtablet the other day. This thread saved me from some dissapointment by trying to save a couple bucks.
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OK... I'm thinking this may be a pretty off the wall question and really underscores how little I know about mobile operating systems and devices but I just rooted my Galaxy S so I'm feeling super confident!
I was recently sent a link to a product called an "aPad". It's a shameless knock off of an iPad that runs the Android operating system. Spec's vary but the one I'm looking at has a 10.1" screen with a 1ghz processor running Android 2.1, 256mb DDR2 RAM (I'm thinking upgradable) 2-32GB removable memory, Google browser, etc. I'm thinking it would be as useful as a notepad.
What I'm wondering is, can Android be replaced with windows 7 (not mobile) with the touch pack? Are tablets built like regular computers?
Thanks!
Hello. I'm new on this forum, so please be gentle...
Can someone tell me how can I install Windows on a Tablet? I can't seem to find the answer on GOOGLE.
This is the Tablet and it's specs:
Name: Serioux S102TAB
Display: 10.1 inch, 1024 x 600, 5 point multi-touch, Capacitive
CPU: ARM, Cortex, A9, 1.2Ghz Dual Core, Rockchip RK3168
RAM: 1Gb DDR(3?)
HDD: 8Gb
External HDD: 32Gb microSD
GPU: ARM Mali 400
Connectivity: Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, 3G
Multimedia: Speaker, Microphone, Web Cam 0.3 + 1.3 Mpx
OS: Android 4.2.2
Battery: Lithium Polymer 5000mAh
I appreciate any kinds of help and anyone who tries to help.
Have a nice day/night!
If you want install Windows like a PC (desktop apps...) it is impossible because are different platforms (ARM VS X86-64).
If you mean Windows RT, actually is it not possible
What do you mean I can't install Windows on a Tablet? There are Tablets that have Windows on them. I saw a tablet that had Windows and Android on it. They were two separate Tablets, but they were both the same model with the same specs.
I'm not talking about PC version of Windows. I'm talking about the version that is on Tablets and Phones, Windows Mobile or something. There has to be a Custom ROM with that kind of Windows for me to flash it on the Tablet. But I don't know where to look for it.
EDIT: I just found out that there is Windows 8.1 RT for ARM based devices.
If you mean the Asus Duet, it's an x86 , not ARM.
There aren't custom ROM with Windows RT inside. Cotulla is working on it with HTC One.
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Damn it, just search the net! Windows 8.1 RTM works with ARM cpus. The thing is I have no clue how to install it on android. It is an iso file that boots from the usb, but that only works on pcs(I think). They don't give us the instructions on how to install it on the Android. :crying::crying:
Gordon2013 said:
Hello. I'm new on this forum, so please be gentle...
Can someone tell me how can I install Windows on a Tablet? I can't seem to find the answer on GOOGLE.
This is the Tablet and it's specs:
Name: Serioux S102TAB
Display: 10.1 inch, 1024 x 600, 5 point multi-touch, Capacitive
CPU: ARM, Cortex, A9, 1.2Ghz Dual Core, Rockchip RK3168
RAM: 1Gb DDR(3?)
HDD: 8Gb
External HDD: 32Gb microSD
GPU: ARM Mali 400
Connectivity: Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, 3G
Multimedia: Speaker, Microphone, Web Cam 0.3 + 1.3 Mpx
OS: Android 4.2.2
Battery: Lithium Polymer 5000mAh
I appreciate any kinds of help and anyone who tries to help.
Have a nice day/night!
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You cant run windows or even windows RT on your tablet/ majority of tablets out there (unless you create a virtual engine to mimic it which will work like crap) but i can suggest you side load Ubuntu with your android device which will work well. The OS is very malleable in that it is extremely open source AND is linux based, search for that instead... Good luck.
Quote RamRaja. Try to install that.
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Are you yelling and cussing at people to figure out what you cant?
Right now tablets dont really come as blank personal computing devices that you can unstall what ever OS and boot loader you want. The windows system would need drivers for all the on board hardware which may not be possible...
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This app might help you if needed for Microsoft windows core apps. It runs off a server... even gives you 2GB free cloud storage if they havent changed it yet. Onlive desktop app for android. Hope that helps.
BTW: Yes RT can run on ARM, but currently does not work for yours as detailed above.
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Are you yelling and cussing at people to figure out what you cant?
Right now tablets dont really come as blank personal computing devices that you can unstall what ever OS and boot loader you want. The windows system would need drivers for all the on board hardware which may not be possible...
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First of all, sorry for yelling. I just said to him that there's already a windows that can run on arm cpus. But he didn't believe me...
Second, there aren't a large variety of components for tablets, most of them have the same crap. So it wouldn't be needing so many drivers.
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This app might help you if needed for Microsoft windows core apps. It runs off a server... even gives you 2GB free cloud storage if they havent changed it yet. Onlive desktop app for android. Hope that helps.
BTW: Yes RT can run on ARM, but currently does not work for yours as detailed above.
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Well it says ANY arm based device. So my cpu falls into that category. Why are you saying my tablet can't run it?
BTW: I don't want to offend anyone. I just hoped that someone knew about it and how do do it. There is on now, but it's made for a surface tablet...
It would be nice if we could flash it though custom recovery.