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Hey guys, I have a problem with my RAM u see I only have about 140mb of RAM, which when I bought my phone they said that they was going to be 768mb of RAM. So the problem is that whenever I kill all app using advance task killer, there would only be maximum of 200mba of RAM.but now after flashing a ROM the maximum RAM is 140mb n after opening one or two apps my phone necessary really laggy as I would only have 60 MBA left.on top of that my internet takes up about 80 MBA. So I am angry about this. So is there anesthesia else to increase the ram?thx
Your phone is broken; You should sell it to me. I'm joking of course, I don't want your broken POS. Lol Im sorry, I mean nothing is wrong with your phone.
256 is dedicated to the gpu, then another 300 or so is dedicated to the OS, and Rosie UI. The rest of that is what you're seeing. Don't worry though, 140MB is plenty of memory. You need to uninstall your 3rd party task killer and just enjoy using the phone.
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Your phone is broken; You should sell it to me. I'm joking of course, I don't want your broken POS. Lol Im sorry, I mean nothing is wrong with your phone.
256 is dedicated to the gpu, then another 300 or so is dedicated to the OS, and Rosie UI. The rest of that is what you're seeing. Don't worry though, 140MB is plenty of memory. You need to uninstall your 3rd party task killer and just enjoy using the phone.
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Tnx for the reply but my phone lags, bro how
If you are flashing roms, then I assume you are rooted. Get Titanium Backup and freeze Sense. That will free up RAM and speed up your phone. I am using ADW EX on the stock ROM and I froze Sense (found two parts of it in Titanium). My phone is faster than hell...
Matt
Even with sense running your phone shouldn't lag unless one of your apps isn't working properly. The way android background processes work, if an active application needs more ram than is currently free, the android system will automatically kill inactive app(s) to free up memory. The problem is with poorly written apps that maintain active status when they are no longer active or have unnecessary services that relaunch themselves when they are killed. Your task killer cannot fix poor coding. It only provides a placebo effect. At best it is unnecessary, at worst it will exacerbate the issue.
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Even with sense running your phone shouldn't lag unless one of your apps isn't working properly. The way android background processes work, if an active application needs more ram than is currently free, the android system will automatically kill inactive app(s) to free up memory. The problem is with poorly written apps that maintain active status when they are no longer active or have unnecessary services that relaunch themselves when they are killed. Your task killer cannot fix poor coding. It only provides a placebo effect. At best it is unnecessary, at worst it will exacerbate the issue.
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Yes, but android wont kill Sense. ;-) Trust me, freeze sense (dont remove it) and youll notice a difference.
Matt
mrg02d said:
Yes, but android wont kill Sense. ;-) Trust me, freeze sense (dont remove it) and youll notice a difference.
Matt
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Guys I freeze sense but nothing happen I think it became even more laggy, how anything else to try
Have you considered flashin another rom, or reflashing the one you're using ? It might help.
It happened to me as well : phone was laggy and sloooow. I went into Recovery, wiped all data, applied the super wipe script (just to be sure) and flashed again my rom.
Been on it for two days, and phone is really fast and responsive.
jasdev said:
Tnx for the reply but my phone lags, bro how
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What rom did you flash ?
Most rom devs seem to recommend giving your phone a day or 2 of normal usage to let the android os 'settle down'.
Mercvtio said:
Have you considered flashin another rom, or reflashing the one you're using ? It might help.
It happened to me as well : phone was laggy and sloooow. I went into Recovery, wiped all data, applied the super wipe script (just to be sure) and flashed again my rom.
Been on it for two days, and phone is really fast and responsive.
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but f i use super wipe will all my data be gone?
jasdev said:
but f i use super wipe will all my data be gone?
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use titanium to backup your apps... your phone contacts move to your sim cards...
MxFadzil92 said:
use titanium to backup your apps... your p
hone contacts move to your sim cards...
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I am also staying in singapore, then my setings n messages?btw usually wat is Ur maximum allowed multitaking apps
Well yes, you will lose all your data. As mentioned higher, you can use Titanium Backup to save them.
As for your messages, you can use a small app, like SMS Backup and Restore (free on the Market) to save everyting on your SD Card, and restore them after you're done.
Reagrding the max multitasking apps, I admit I don't know how many of them can be kept running. I usually have 2 or 3 of them going at the same time, rarely more.
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Well yes, you will lose all your data. As mentioned higher, you can use Titanium Backup to save them.
As for your messages, you can use a small app, like SMS Backup and Restore (free on the Market) to save everyting on your SD Card, and restore them after you're done.
Reagrding the max multitasking apps, I admit I don't know how many of them can be kept running. I usually have 2 or 3 of them going at the same time, rarely more.
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Thx bro, but because of all this it makes me regretfull getting this phone cause the RAM issue but other then that everything is good, I feel like getting galaxy s 2,haha
That's a pretty normal amount
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That's a pretty normal amount
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Huh wat are u talking
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Huh wat are u talking
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He's saying that your free ram amount is pretty normal. I want to know where you're getting the free ram amount from? If its from task manager (included or third party) its probably wrong. Go to settings>applications>running services and look at the bottom. I found that to be the most consistant regardless of device. BTW, I currently have 215mb free with ~20+ apps running and I never kill anything. In comparison, task manager shows 97mb free with only 4 running apps.
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He's saying that your free ram amount is pretty normal. I want to know where you're getting the free ram amount from? If its from task manager (included or third party) its probably wrong. Go to settings>applications>running services and look at the bottom. I found that to be the most consistant regardless of device. BTW, I currently have 215mb free with ~20+ apps running and I never kill anything. In comparison, task manager shows 97mb free with only 4 running apps.
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Hey from the settings I have about 320mba free, but on my task manager it Shows 140mb, y? Another ques is why when I use internet n exit my phone becames very laggy n my task manager shows 80 MBA free, also y? It also becomes laggy after using market
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Hey from the settings I have about 320mba free, but on my task manager it Shows 140mb, y? Another ques is why when I use internet n exit my phone becames very laggy n my task manager shows 80 MBA free, also y? It also becomes laggy after using market
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that's because task manager shows only completely unused ram. Running processes in the settings menu shows unused ram as well as cached processes. Cached processes are automatically ended when ram is needed so the android system includes that ram in the available ram count. Task manager does not do this. It will only show the unused ram. If you take your total ram (from running services menu in settings) and subtract the total amount of ram used by cached processes the numbers in task manger will march the new total. Example:
Running services shows 332MB (this is my actual numbers by the way) with 162MB used by cached processes. Task manager shows 170MB free. The numbers add up.
332MB - 162MB = 170MB
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To see your cached processes go to:
menu> settings> applications> running services> menu> show cached processes
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that's because task manager shows only completely unused ram. Running processes in the settings menu shows unused ram as well as cached processes. Cached processes are automatically ended when ram is needed so the android system includes that ram in the available ram count. Task manager does not do this. It will only show the unused ram. If you take your total ram (from running services menu in settings) and subtract the total amount of ram used by cached processes the numbers in task manger will march the new total. Example:
Running services shows 332MB (this is my actual numbers by the way) with 162MB used by cached processes. Task manager shows 170MB free. The numbers add up.
332MB - 162MB = 170MB
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To see your cached processes go to:
menu> settings> applications> running services> menu> show cached processes
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Thx bro but y foes my phone becomes laggy after using the internet, n also I only can run up to 4 app if I run some more it cancels the oldest app, y?
basically ive got 100's of apps installed on my phone and many still run in the background using up alot of ram memory and causing the phone to lag occasionaly, any1 recommend any good ram manager apps that would help speed up my phone? thx
p.s. please dont ask me to delete sum apps
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did you tried with tweak scripts, like supercharger???
I tried a lot of task managers, but in fact you do not need one. Take a loot at the app Cache Cleaner. It cleans cache an helps apps to lag less often (like facebook for example).
No RAM manager is the best RAM manager.
And if we are talking about cleaning apps, check out SD Maid, it may look a bit more complicated than cache cleaner but is more thorough.
Android is designed to run without a task manager. Its definitely a myth that it saves you any battery life or helps with memory. Android automatically kills a task when more memory is needed, its done doing what its doing or if you haven't returned in a long time. If you kill a task before it is ready it will just reopen and start from scratch.
RAM tweak
You ought to try the RAM script tweak :V6 Supercharger memory tweak ...
Mike7515 said:
You ought to try the RAM script tweak :V6 Supercharger memory tweak ...
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Mind to share the link for this apps? i just try apps memory tweak in rom toolbox but its look like nothing
V6 Supercharger
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16635544#post16635544 It is a tweak, It Isn't an app ... Test it and see if it improves the phone ... Excuse my english ...
Sd maid Pro
Dark3n said:
No RAM manager is the best RAM manager.
And if we are talking about cleaning apps, check out SD Maid, it may look a bit more complicated than cache cleaner but is more thorough.
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Sd maid Pro...
Actually, RAM optimizers are a waste and actually counterproductive in most cases. This is because in android, free RAM is wasted RAM from a multitasking perspective. The default android RAM optimizations are just fine in most cases, most other tweaks actually sacrifice something somewhere, this causes the device to constantly have to reload and cache the same data repeatedly after the optimizer kills it. This creates more workload on the CPU/GPU and more battery usage.
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You should use clean master it has , a on click ram booster and 1 click apps hibernate system , and 1 click cache cleaner , you can add these features directly as widget , it solve hanging problem on low end devices
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Is it Eligible for Oreo 8.1 Rom?
When I use RAM manager, and kill all the apps, free memory is 200mb. then I'm watching the memory info, free memory is slowly going down from 200 to 190, 190 to 180, so on... I already frozen the bloatwares. and the only application opened is RAM manager.
This is my question(s):
1.) Is there a way to make the RAM stable at 200mb or at least 190mb?
2.) What does it buffers if there's only 1 application opened?
3.) Used RAM should be free again if an application is closed. No need to kill it manually. It this correct?
Thanks! Sorry if this question is so noobish.
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3.) Used RAM should be free again if an application is closed. No need to kill it manually. It this correct?
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Only if the app is well behaved programmed, all RAM initially allocated by the app should be freed when app ends. But many apps cause memory leaks ...
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Only if the app is well behaved programmed, all RAM initially allocated by the app should be freed when app ends. But many apps cause memory leaks ...
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So.. is there a way to prevent these memory leaks???
Thanks!
i would like to know also
dummypirate said:
So.. is there a way to prevent these memory leaks???
Thanks!
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Basically it's task of app's programmer.
BTW:
Neither Windows Mobile nor Android do recycle the memory (RAM) when you close an app, it will not automatically bring back those orphaned memory.
So your mobile device will become more and more slow. A so-called Memory Cleaner app can help to clean the system. You run it periodically, i.e. via a tasker app.
Examples (no comments by me):
Android => CleanMaster
WinMo => htcAddicts - CleanRAM [ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=514333 ]
and may others - most of them are freeware.
Download ROM toolbox from the market and use the memory manager...
DRUMMERCD360 said:
Download ROM toolbox from the market and use the memory manager...
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i know there is app manager, rom manager, start up killer, and task manager.. but ROM manager? is there such a thing?? just asking..
Maybe all-in-one-toolbox(17 tools) from IMOBLIFE INC it's in the play store
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Franco kernel updater also has active ram view
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If I'm right a RAM manager (RAM Cleaner) is the tool needed. Must admit I've not much knowledge in system internals. Always thought ROM is persistent and RAM (from where in apps, except XIPs, are excuted and memory needed by apps is allocated from) is volatile ...
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i know there is app manager, rom manager, start up killer, and task manager.. but ROM manager? is there such a thing?? just asking..
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Yes its made by jrummy I think...its a neat little tool with other features also...
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You could also try Autokiller Memory Optimizer too...
this app is used to increase ram and performance in ur android phone, everyone tells that this degrades sd cards life but its working great for me, i purchased it from playstore and it checks licince verification, if u can crack its licence crack this app and install it on ur phone , sorry i have backuped it but cant crack it, do it if u can and enjoy the app
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Well, sharing paid apps aren't allowed here so its a kind request to the op that you shut this thread as soon as possible before the well know forum moderator "jotha" sees this . , you'll be in a great trouble ..
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Well, sharing paid apps aren't allowed here so its a kind request to the op that you shut this thread as soon as possible before the well know forum moderator "jotha" sees this . , you'll be in a great trouble ..
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^^ THIS !
Hello,
Can anybody suggest good apps for the following ?
System cleanup
Task manager(to kill applications and regain memory)
RAM Usage monitor(by default, Nexus 5 has 2GB RAM)
Disk space left on internal 32GB storage.
Regards,
Avi
Avin_in said:
Hello,
System cleanup
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Meaning?
Avin_in said:
Task manager(to kill applications and regain memory)
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Not needed. Android does this itself. If you need to end an app that is misbehaving .... settings > apps > open the app > force close
Avin_in said:
RAM Usage monitor(by default, Nexus 5 has 2GB RAM)
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settings > apps > running
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Disk space left on internal 32GB storage.
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Settings > storage
Or "diskusage"
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Avin_in said:
Hello,
Can anybody suggest good apps for the following ?
System cleanup
Task manager(to kill applications and regain memory)
RAM Usage monitor(by default, Nexus 5 has 2GB RAM)
Disk space left on internal 32GB storage.
Regards,
Avi
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1) Clean Master
2) Greenify would hibernate apps so that they are not running in the background
3) If you rooted I suggest gravity box. It has the RAM monitoring deal where you hit the "recents" key and depending on where you put it it will show used RAM vs unused. Since this device has 2GB of RAM it is not recommended to constantly be killing the apps in the background.
4) you could download minimalistic text there are all kinds of things that it could tell you and as the title says it's minimal. or just look in storage. Also look into zooper, it has a predefined layout for sys information.