[APP] Halite (torrent client) for Windows RT - Windows RT Development and Hacking

All,
Please find the attached Windows RT native binaries for Halite 0.3.4. Halite is a nice, light weight, torrent client for windows based on libtorrent:
http://www.binarynotions.com/halite-bittorrent-client/
Was looking for a break from QtWebkit fixes and I wasn't particularly satisfied with the existing ported torrent clients, so I gave this one a go. Its about as close to uTorrent as we're going to get for now. Seems to work great, but is missing support for non-english languages (sorry). Please report any issues that you may find, but I'm not anticipating any.
Enjoy!

Hello,
Can you please provide instructions on how to en this file on win 8 Rt.
This will be a great help.
Thanks.

[email protected] said:
Hello,
Can you please provide instructions on how to en this file on win 8 Rt.
This will be a great help.
Thanks.
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What on earth does en mean?
The file is an application for jailbroken RT's. If your RT is jailbroken, double click the .exe, if its not jailbroken then jailbreak it and double click the .exe
That is once you decompress it. Its a 7zip archive. Get 7z and you can decompress it.

I click on magnet button and nothing happen. It didn't support Magnet URI? But the other function work great. Thank.

hisoft said:
I click on magnet button and nothing happen. It didn't support Magnet URI? But the other function work great. Thank.
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You should be able to get Magnet Uri working simply by making some minor registry changes. This is normally done by an installer, but I haven't provided one.
See here:
https://forum.suprbay.org/showthread.php?tid=115481
...For some _guidance_. The instructions target uTorrent but can be used for Halite as well with a bit of brain power.
Cheers!

bfosterjr said:
You should be able to get Magnet Uri working simply by making some minor registry changes. This is normally done by an installer, but I haven't provided one.
See here:
https://forum.suprbay.org/showthread.php?tid=115481
...For some _guidance_. The instructions target uTorrent but can be used for Halite as well with a bit of brain power.
Cheers!
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That mean I can launch it with parameter but cannot add it with button?

Probably. It is odd that the magnet button, though present on the UI, doesn't actually work.

GoodDayToDie said:
Probably. It is odd that the magnet button, though present on the UI, doesn't actually work.
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it works just fine. just behaves a bit different than other clients perhaps. it looks for the magnet link on the clipboard. so basically, you right click on a magnet link -> copy shortcut. Then when you click the magnet button in Halite, it'll pick up the torrent.
cheers!

Thanks very much for this bfosterjr, it works really well.
Only problem is, when my computer goes to sleep, I think Windows RT suspends the Desktop applications as well. This means torrents stop working too... any ideas on what I can do about this? I don't want to change the time-out for the screen as I'm sure it isn't good to have it on all night!
I have heard there are some ways to tell Windows not to suspend things, for example I think I read of a Pandora or Spotify thing for RT Desktop which can continue to play music while the screen is off (a.k.a. Connected Standby).
Even if it's not possible, thanks for your initial effort, and let us know of any updates.
Cheers,
Lloydo

There's nothing wrong with leaving an LCD screen (you know, the same tech used in all desktop monitors and most TVs sold in the past decade or so) on all night; you can leave them on for years without a problem. That said, it would be cool if torrenting over Connected Standby was possible. Not sure what that would take, though.

Only concern would be screen burn but the odd night torrenting here and there won't be significant. Think about it, through the lifetime of your device it will be displaying the desktop for alot longer than 1 night My laptop is over 5 years old now, it does have screen burn, but you have to look for it and I only really noticed it a year ago.
Screen savers exist to alleviate screen burn, if one exists on RT enable it. Turning down display brightness helps. Considering your device is 5 years newer and will likely have a much higher tech display i would imagine it would take longer for screen burn to set in at all.
I really wouldn't be concerned.
That said, would be a nice feature, certainly prevent a nice glow in the corner of your room (or simply leave the tablet in another room)

lloydo said:
Thanks very much for this bfosterjr, it works really well.
Only problem is, when my computer goes to sleep, I think Windows RT suspends the Desktop applications as well. This means torrents stop working too... any ideas on what I can do about this? I don't want to change the time-out for the screen as I'm sure it isn't good to have it on all night!
I have heard there are some ways to tell Windows not to suspend things, for example I think I read of a Pandora or Spotify thing for RT Desktop which can continue to play music while the screen is off (a.k.a. Connected Standby).
Even if it's not possible, thanks for your initial effort, and let us know of any updates.
Cheers,
Lloydo
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I can help with one thing. If you don't want to config screen time-out every time you can press Win+X and open mobility center to turn on presentation mode. This mode will made your PC always-on.

@hisoft: That's not what Win+X does on Win8. You can check in the Start search to see if that feature is still present, I guess...

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@hisoft: That's not what Win+X does on Win8. You can check in the Start search to see if that feature is still present, I guess...
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Didn't Win+X work the same as right click at bottom left corner to open quick menu?

Yes, it does. I'd forgotten that Mobility Center was available there; it's missing on my desktop (not terribly surprising, I guess). I thought you were referring to the pre-Win8 shortcut that opened Mobility Center directly. My bad.

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Yes, it does. I'd forgotten that Mobility Center was available there; it's missing on my desktop (not terribly surprising, I guess). I thought you were referring to the pre-Win8 shortcut that opened Mobility Center directly. My bad.
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I forgot that shortcut too. I use it very frequent before upgrade to Windows 8.

hisoft said:
I can help with one thing. If you don't want to config screen time-out every time you can press Win+X and open mobility center to turn on presentation mode. This mode will made your PC always-on.
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That is a really cool tip! I can't believe I'm not familiar with the mobility center... but then, my laptop is ten years old and running Windows XP. I've not wanted to mess with the power settings on my Surface RT, but have wanted a way to make it stay awake for tasks and applications (such as this torrent client) that would normally not keep it from going into standby. So this is perfect, thanks!

hisoft said:
I can help with one thing. If you don't want to config screen time-out every time you can press Win+X and open mobility center to turn on presentation mode. This mode will made your PC always-on.
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Top tip! With your idea and 6677's advice about the screen saver it got me thinking: there's a setting in Power Options (WIN+X gets you there faster, thanks hisoft) for "Change what closing the lid does." If you set it to "Do nothing" then closing the touch cover turns the screen off but leaves the computer on!
Combined with Presentation Mode, it's great, now I can download Linux distros all night to my heart's content!
GoodDayToDie, you're right though, it would be cool. There must be some hooks in what Halite tells Windows it's up to in terms of power requirements, I have no idea though, I'm not a software developer. Thanks for your contributions to the RT community, by the way.

lloydo said:
Top tip! With your idea and 6677's advice about the screen saver it got me thinking: there's a setting in Power Options (WIN+X gets you there faster, thanks hisoft) for "Change what closing the lid does." If you set it to "Do nothing" then closing the touch cover turns the screen off but leaves the computer on!
Combined with Presentation Mode, it's great, now I can download Linux distros all night to my heart's content!
GoodDayToDie, you're right though, it would be cool. There must be some hooks in what Halite tells Windows it's up to in terms of power requirements, I have no idea though, I'm not a software developer. Thanks for your contributions to the RT community, by the way.
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This were impressive too! I never notice that since I try to use monitor off command (from Poweroff 3.0.1.3 run with win86emu) and it turn the Surface RT to sleep then I don't think it will have the way like this.
But the app still suspend (I try video app and it pause when cover flip) then it not simple monitor switch off. At least it can make desktop program run with screen off.

lloydo said:
Top tip! With your idea and 6677's advice about the screen saver it got me thinking: there's a setting in Power Options (WIN+X gets you there faster, thanks hisoft) for "Change what closing the lid does." If you set it to "Do nothing" then closing the touch cover turns the screen off but leaves the computer on!
Combined with Presentation Mode, it's great, now I can download Linux distros all night to my heart's content!
GoodDayToDie, you're right though, it would be cool. There must be some hooks in what Halite tells Windows it's up to in terms of power requirements, I have no idea though, I'm not a software developer. Thanks for your contributions to the RT community, by the way.
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Thank to your idea. I make .bat automatic config for this. [APP] Always-on mode - keep your desktop program running while turn sceen off

Related

Something useful for my phone to do while docked?

This is sort of a goofy request, but I'll make it anyways. My phone spends my workday sitting a little dock next to my monitor. It doesn't do a whole lot, sitting there.
Is there any way to make my phone do something handy / interesting while it's docked? I know you can use a WM device as a Sideshow monitor, but I'm using XP at work so no luck there. I know the Blackberry storm shows a nice analog clock display. I wouldn't mind that. Even something as simple as a slideshow screensaver would be better than just looking at my Kaiser's "desktop" all day.
Any help? My only specific requirement is that it should run automatically when activesync connects.
Edit: I should add that it's a landscape dock, so programs that display in landscape get bonus points. But I'd be interested in portrait stuff as well, since a coworker has a portrait dock and would also be interested.
lol not sure what device ur using, but u could try S2U2 found on here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=527523
or watch internet TV... i have it turned on the whole day on my office desk. ... SPB TV (not free) is good.
or just run some videos.
You can use SPB Time. It has some badass clock screensavers.
Resco Photo Viewer has good slideshow options.
I use it for a second/side monitor. I didn't understand what you meant by the XP part? I have XP and it works perfectly. Try Inobec SideWindow .
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lol not sure what device ur using, but u could try S2U2 found on here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=527523
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He said for the Kaiser
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He said for the Kaiser
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lol so he did yh i also use it as a second monitor, mymobilzer is a useful tool too....
I'm also interested in this, I remember something ages ago that did this but can't think of the name of it, and as the op said "My only specific requirement is that it should run automatically when active sync connects." that is fairly crucial, I just want it to auto run when I drop my phone into its dock, no interaction needed.
oh yeah, needs to run on stock 6.5 for me

Hand Gestures \o/

I was on Twitter, and people were discussing some of the biggies of Windows Mobile 7, with some rumors and all.
One of the things mentioned was hand gestures. I was curious about this, and thought about my Fuze's ambient light sensor, so I thought I'd give this a shot
It's proof of concept, but what do you guys think?
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_JAFskYwME
Nice work!!!
Impressive! I see you're using only vertical gestures in the video but I suppose horizontal gestures would be possible too?
It looks like this is running on Windows Mobile 6.5 with TF3D2? I don't know if that effects things - I'm on stock WinMo 6.1 with TF3D1 but would be interested in trying out something like this. I'm a noob at serious development but I'd be happy to help test if at all needed.
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Impressive! I see you're using only vertical gestures in the video but I suppose horizontal gestures would be possible too?
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Well, it's complicated. I'm going to work on designing some more gestures, but all the device can see is that SOMETHING went over it, it can't tell direction, size, etc. So really it's a pattern issue.
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It looks like this is running on Windows Mobile 6.5 with TF3D2? I don't know if that effects things - I'm on stock WinMo 6.1 with TF3D1 but would be interested in trying out something like this. I'm a noob at serious development but I'd be happy to help test if at all needed.
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Windows Mobile 6.5.3, using HTC Sense. However, none of that really matters, because it is simply simulating key press's.
I'll work on it a bit today, and hopefully release a build with more than one gesture, for people to play with.
Cheers!
Here's a zip file with the EXE and DLL in it, copy them onto your device and run them.
It's glitchy, and BY NO MEANS ready for normal use, but it's a pretty good Proof of Concept.
http://windowsphonehacker.jaxbot.com/files/Gestures.zip
I gave this a try but didn't have much success. A few times (maybe 4 or 5) it did move as though up/down were pressed but I wasn't able to find a way to duplicate it. I tried different lighting, speeds, and directions but to no effect. I've tinkered with the sensitivity too.
Is there any particular place to which these 2 files should be copied? I had them in a folder in \Program Files\ and also \Windows\
I do have the KforTouchPro_v1.0.0.3 driver installed so I can make the hard keys. (showthread.php?p=2791652). I don't know if this would make a difference.
My Touch Pro is a CDMA phone with Telus up in Canada, FYI.
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I gave this a try but didn't have much success. A few times (maybe 4 or 5) it did move as though up/down were pressed but I wasn't able to find a way to duplicate it. I tried different lighting, speeds, and directions but to no effect. I've tinkered with the sensitivity too.
Is there any particular place to which these 2 files should be copied? I had them in a folder in \Program Files\ and also \Windows\
I do have the KforTouchPro_v1.0.0.3 driver installed so I can make the hard keys. (showthread.php?p=2791652). I don't know if this would make a difference.
My Touch Pro is a CDMA phone with Telus up in Canada, FYI.
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As I said, it's highly proof of concept and extremely hard to use. I have a higher success rate, simply because I know all the timings.
Where you copy doesn't matter, I like mid-sensitivity and a wave that allows my arm to fully block out light for a one-half to one-fourth of a second.
I'll try some more with it then. Actually, it was a bit annoying because my mom saw me waving my hands over the phone and when she tried it responded right away! But she wasn't able to get it to work a second time...
As I understand, I just run gesture.exe then I can open another program (like TouchFlo or the program folder) and then your program will emulate key presses as it detects the correct shadow patterns.
kryptech said:
I'll try some more with it then. Actually, it was a bit annoying because my mom saw me waving my hands over the phone and when she tried it responded right away! But she wasn't able to get it to work a second time...
As I understand, I just run gesture.exe then I can open another program (like TouchFlo or the program folder) and then your program will emulate key presses as it detects the correct shadow patterns.
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Yes, that is how it works. On the screen (after opening Gesture.exe), there's some numbers, Cur and Avg. What range are they in? It might be too dark where you are for it to see a difference.
Any update on this?
Ty
madsurfer1 said:
Any update on this?
Ty
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I've been a little preoccupied lately (school...), but so far it seems it's a bit too unpredictable. Not to mention it requires a lot of light.
I'll mess around with it and see if I can't get some better results.

Android Screencast - Control your phone from your PC (My Mobiler for Android)

This is incubus26jc's thread, just posting it here for exposure.
incubus26jc said:
Alright guys, I finally found a Java App that will actually control your phone from your pc. This is not complicated. Thanks to acid256 for this open source project.
If your looking to do screenshots, use the java screenshot program in this thread
Features
- Mouse and keyboard control FOR ROOTED DEVICES ONLY
- Landscape mode (right click)
- Video recording
- Basic file browser
INSTRUCTIONS
Download Android sdk. Place android-sdk-windows folder on root of your C:\
http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
Download(skip login) and install JRE(JDK) 6
http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/widget/jdk6.jsp
Download the attached java file, unzip it, and just run it.
Place it anywhere you want. It doesnt have to be in the sdk folder like the screenshot program.
Make sure your phone is plugged in for a minute or two.
If you cant get it to control, run the automount app or dual mount sd widget.
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Damn that is sweet! Will try it when I get home from work
Thank you for posting about this. Just gave it a shot, and it works pretty well. It's a bit laggy, but definitely gets the job done. I needed this in order to respond to texts without looking like I'm responding to texts, and for that this works very well.
Thanks for posting this. I might have to give this a try.
Good for if your phone is in someone else's hands. :-O
Just tested it out.
Found a couple problems-
-It's a little slow
-If you have the phone set up with the kickstand, and it turns the orientation side ways, it does the same on the computer. So then everything is sideways.
-If the phone is Asleep, it wont wake it up
Besides those few problems, it's great!
Can't wait to see what this will be like in the coming weeks as the dev. gets the bugs worked out!
Yes very slow but I like it. Awesome owkr.
Cool beans, thanks
i was hoping this was similar to MyMoblier for WinMo. being able to remotely control (or at least view) a device is rather handy for support folks.
has anyone seen something more like mymobiler for winmo that will work on android?
Works good but it needs more responsiveness in the mouse clicking. I can drag but I cant click very well. I press menu and go to Wallpaper. But I cant press Wallpaper.
Excellent program for people who want to text in privacy at work.
Awesome, this could be quite useful
i'm having absolutely no luck with this. granted, i'm using adb wireless to try and manipulate it, but i'm rooted, and it should still work. getting absolutely no control at all. none. i can see the screen, and can rotate my view of it, but i can't do squat through the phone.
i'm rooted, btw.

Elderly parents and tablet

Years ago, my elderly parents decided to get a computer and become "high tech". And ever since, I've been having trouble to get them to understand the basic functions of a pc. I still occasionally get the phone call from my dad asking me how to perform the most basic functions like downloading pdf files or downloading music. Just the other day, I was asked again how to get into email.
I recently got them a tablet so they could surf, check email, and eventually skype (when it finally comes out) while sitting comfortably on the couch watching tv. Somehow, they're not having trouble with the tablet.
I don't get it. They've been having trouble with the pc for years. I've always figured it's because of the multi-function aspect of the pc that's been giving them trouble. Almost everything else in the house (microwave, washing machine, dish washer, oven, toaster, tv, dvd player, bluray, etc.) has a perfect hardware-software integration and only serves 1 purpose.
But for some reason, they're not having any trouble with their first touch screen device. They're actually able to explore and find new ways at doing things with the gtab. I've been watching in awe as my parents do one thing after another with the gtab. Never seen them so technical before.
I can't seem to find a pattern here. How come they're still having trouble with the PC and yet they have no trouble with an android tablet? Anyone else observing this in their elderly parents?
PS - My 80 yr old uncle is thinking of getting a tablet after seeing how my parents have been playing with a tablet.
Doing the same thing with my mom too. Recluse and giving up on life at 71. The grab has really changed things alot. I put Facebook as a icon on the main screen and she now pecks away talking to my sister 1200 miles away. And her grandson too. Trying video calls next with Skype but haven't got there with working 2 jobs. The gtab has been a God send for me. Even jewels helps with mental abilities and now she is addicted. I can't get it away from her. I am really greatful for this wonderful device. Took it to work and a coworker bought 2 at woot where I bought mine. She asked me to flash them for her. I told her I would show her since she is like me working in lab and IT. Its a wonderful thing. Dan
The more I think about I think its about ease of use. Giving mom a laptop. She is afraid she would break it. Also size. Desktop means sitting at a desk etc. And a keyboard. She can't type. And oh I am going to break this big expensive machine. But she is good at hunt and peck.
Fear factor. By giving her something small, thin and eyecandy takes the fear out of it. Its more like a microwave screen than a huge desktop or even a laptop. Also her gtab has become personal. This is mine and I like it. Its fun and functional at the same time. You should see her playing stuntcar and steering the screen like a car. I also like to say she is partially blind in one eye and bad in the other. This has really helped her visual aquity alot in the month we have had our devices.
I have had the same experience with my mother. She is a complete technophobe. So much so that she retired early from her career as a nurse because she was about to start having to use a Palm Pilot to monitor prescriptions and such. She's wanted email for years and we've tried computers, laptops, etc, all to no avail. She's intimidated by them or something and after a very short period she just stops using them. This is a woman who's scared to program numbers into her cell phone and usually asks me or my brother to do it for her when she needs someone added.
My brother broke down and bought her an iPad for Christmas this year and it's really stuck with her. She's using it everyday to email people (it's the first time we've been able to get her to email consistently) and search recipes on the Internet. For whatever reason, it doesn't intimidate her like every thing else, including her basic, no-frills cell phone. I don't know what it is, but it's working and I'm not complaining.
I'm starting to wonder if it isn't the touch screen that allows a lot of this. Is it that non-techies are actually more comfortable manipulating things this way? Perhaps a more natural method of input allows them to have a higher comfort level and the higher comfort level allows them to push the boundaries of what they know a little harder. I don't know, but it sure seems to be a common theme.
Technology tots
Funny how the elderly and the very young take to tablets/itouch but probably for very different reasons. My 4 year old grandson just bought $60 worth of extras off my daughters iTouch while playing a game.
Not to take your thread off topic, but yahoo messenger + video plugin works great on the gtab if you didn't want to wait for Skype to get their butts in gear. My wife and I use it everyday when I travel.
crispyone said:
Not to take your thread off topic, but yahoo messenger + video plugin works great on the gtab if you didn't want to wait for Skype to get their butts in gear. My wife and I use it everyday when I travel.
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Have you any idea how many hours I put in to showing, explaining, showing again, explaining again, etc... my elderly parents, elderly uncles, elderly aunts, and all their computer illiterates how to use skype? Just last week, they had issues with hearing my parents. My parents had to call me and tell me about it. I, in turn, called all the way to the other side of the world to tell them to turn up their volume.
No, I think I will wait for skype on android, thank you very much.
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I, in turn, called all the way to the other side of the world to tell them to turn up their volume.
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Or turn up their hearing aid!
To the computer illiterates, something as simple as double clicking on an exe file is a world of confusion. Those who live in a modern country like the USA have trouble understanding this. Usually, when I tell people that my folks back in my home country have trouble finding the print button or even have trouble understanding the print button concept people don't believe me. Surely, they thought, nobody in the world would have trouble with clicking on print and out comes a printed paper.
Last month, one of our relatives back in my home country paid a couple of guys to set up their computer for them to yahoo vid with us. The dumbasses (the guys who got paid to set up their system) put the camera facing the front window. Those who have the least experience with cameras should know that you never shoot anyone with the sun as the background. Won't see anything. It took me about half an hour to instruct them to move the camera to face somewhere else for this side of the family to see them.
You know how when someone calls you on skype there's a big green button that says "accept"? Well, some people have trouble understanding the concept of a virtual button, so even something as simple as moving the mouse cursor to the accept button and press it requires time, explanation, and frustration.
You think you have it bad dealing with android newbies? Try dealing with people who until the last couple years never even know what a computer was. Now, try explaning what a mouse cursor is over the phone with the other side of the line being 3 thousand miles away.
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And to the previous post, have you any idea how painful it was to instruct them to press the Fn button while pressing the + sign to up the volume? They even had trouble understanding the concept of pressing 2 buttons simultaneously. And no doubt, some people here will not believe me. Again, surely, they thought, everybody in the world knows how to turn up the volume.
My guess is that you've already used some sort of remote PC app, but if not,
I would suggest trying out Teamviewer.
It's free for personal use and is dead simple to set up (you might consider setting it to auto-start when they turn on the PC - just put good PW protection on the service.)
I like TV better than any other Remote app.
Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
My guess is that you've already used some sort of remote PC app, but if not,
I would suggest trying out Teamviewer.
It's free for personal use and is dead simple to set up (you might consider setting it to auto-start when they turn on the PC - just put good PW protection on the service.)
I like TV better than any other Remote app.
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Been using VNC pro. But again, the problem is trying to get them to install and give me their ip address. If I can remote control their PCs without having them install the software and giving me their ip's, then I might as well hack into banking systems and make myself rich.
goodintentions said:
Been using VNC pro. But again, the problem is trying to get them to install and give me their ip address. If I can remote control their PCs without having them install the software and giving me their ip's, then I might as well hack into banking systems and make myself rich.
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I know we went way OT here, but that's why I like TV. It uses the TV server's as an intermediary, so you don't need their IP. All you need is the ID for their install (which never changes) and their password. If you can get it set up the one time, then you'll never have that issue again.
You can even set up a profile/login to store all of the ID's that you commonly connect to (and their passwords) to make connecting/logging in very easy.
I have a small company with 5 remote employees who are at varying degrees of tech savvy. Once I got TV set up with all the ID's, I can take over their computer anytime I want ... Doesn't need their intervention at all.
Can you please tell me what TV stand for? Don't tell me to google. Every google result has something to do with television.
goodintentions said:
Can you please tell me what TV stand for? Don't tell me to google. Every google result has something to do with television.
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TeamViewer
http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
TeamViewer
http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
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Just spent the last 2 hours trying to instruct relatives how to run teamviewer on their vista pc. No go. I gave up after an hour trying to explain to them what a window was. I even showed them my screen showing them step by step instruction. They just couldn't understand why I couldn't "remote control" their pc because I already knew their email pass.
Again, you people think its bad dealing with droid noobs? Try being tech support for people who don't know what a mouse cursor is on the other side of the world.
TV is no go. Any other suggestion? Apparently, checking a box and clicking next is too complicated.
goodintentions said:
Just spent the last 2 hours trying to instruct relatives how to run teamviewer on their vista pc. No go. I gave up after an hour trying to explain to them what a window was. I even showed them my screen showing them step by step instruction. They just couldn't understand why I couldn't "remote control" their pc because I already knew their email pass.
Again, you people think its bad dealing with droid noobs? Try being tech support for people who don't know what a mouse cursor is on the other side of the world.
TV is no go. Any other suggestion? Apparently, checking a box and clicking next is too complicated.
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I'm surprised they can turn the computer on.
I really don't know of anything easier than TeamViewer.
Did you try using the QuickSession? I think you can download the QuickSession app and pre-configure it to 'auto-dial' back to your system. 'all' you have to do is get them to run the app (which sounds like a chore in and of itself).
If you figure out how to get through this pain one time and get control of the system, TeamViewer will be your best friend forever
Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
I'm surprised they can turn the computer on.
I really don't know of anything easier than TeamViewer.
Did you try using the QuickSession? I think you can download the QuickSession app and pre-configure it to 'auto-dial' back to your system. 'all' you have to do is get them to run the app (which sounds like a chore in and of itself).
If you figure out how to get through this pain one time and get control of the system, TeamViewer will be your best friend forever
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Unfortunately, most of the problem is getting them to run the damn app.
See, we have to understand the fact that some parts of the world just haven't dealt much with a multitasking machine. A tv, vcr, frige, radio, etc. all have perfect software-hardware integration. people don't even notice the software part. They think the hardware is all of it. But with a computer they have to deal directly with software. Huge part of my problem was getting them to press software buttons. They just can't wrap their heads around soft buttons.
This is why back in my home country people get paid ridiculously high for teaching basic microsoft office skills. Heck I should quit my job and go back there and be a professor there.
God that was frustrating.
My mother just moved, and her old WinXP PC didn't survive the move. I built her a new one using an dual core Atom/ION2 mobo, and since she only browsed and checked email I installed Ubuntu. She is 84 years old.
I had made shortcuts for Firefox and Yahoo email on her WinXP box, so I did the same with the Ubuntu one. I even installed a WinXP-looking desktop wallpaper.
She had U-verse internet installed, and the tech booted the PC to do the online registration. He had to call me and said he had looked all over and couldn't find Internet explorer on the PC. I had to tell him that he was using a Linux OS, and not a Microsoft OS!
I considered offering my second Woot g-tablet to my mom, but not sure if she would really use it.
Wow, great thread reading about technology touching people in a positive way...
IMHO, LogMeIn Hamachi is hands down easier than ANYTHING else. Install, join network, finished.
It works similar to TV, but with less 'stuff'.
Install on your computer an create "My Hamachi Group"
Create a password for "My Hamachi Group"
Give your group name "My Hamachi Group" and "group password" to whom ever you wish to join your network
They simply install, enter "My Hamachi Group" and the "group password" and are now on your virtual private network.
Use good old native remote desktop to view remote computers, not another program. Works excellent with Vista and Seven when installed with right-click and Run as Administrator, no special tricks for XP.
Runs by default at startup and you can see who is available and connected at all times.
tenet420 said:
IMHO, LogMeIn Hamachi is hands down easier than ANYTHING else. Install, join network, finished.
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I looks like that is a windows program. I, and now my mother, use Linux. Fortunately (for her) she lives close enough that I can just go over to her apartment. If she ever starts to actually use her Ubuntu PC for something other than browsing/email, then I'm screwed!!

Question TeamViewer Host app unattended remote control

hello, in https://community.teamviewer.com/English/kb/articles/98985-android-host and then https://community.teamviewer.com/En...rers-for-remotely-controlling-android-devices, are they saying Google pixel phones are not available for unattended remote control using the Host app? I had thought it would have worked to show Android superiority over iOS. I guess I was wrong. Thx. Need to help parents control their P7P. If this just doesn't work, it gives me greater incentive to switch back to iPhone 15 pro max and Apple Watch. For example, also learnt Pixel Watch doesn't support fall detection in unsupported countries.
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hello, in https://community.teamviewer.com/English/kb/articles/98985-android-host and then https://community.teamviewer.com/En...rers-for-remotely-controlling-android-devices, are they saying Google pixel phones are not available for unattended remote control using the Host app? I had thought it would have worked to show Android superiority over iOS. I guess I was wrong. Thx. Need to help parents control their P7P. If this just doesn't work, it gives me greater incentive to switch back to iPhone 15 pro max and Apple Watch. For example, also learnt Pixel Watch doesn't support fall detection in unsupported countries.
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I got it working for my device, but I also had to install an add-on to control as well as enable it in Accessibility to get things to properly work....
I'm working off of a rough memory, so I may be missing some steps, but this is what I remember and have gotten to make it work...
Also -- I just checked right now -- I did not use the "host" app to get it working...
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I got it working for my device, but I also had to install an add-on to control as well as enable it in Accessibility to get things to properly work....
I'm working off of a rough memory, so I may be missing some steps, but this is what I remember and have gotten to make it work...
Also -- I just checked right now -- I did not use the "host" app to get it working...
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Quick Support app won't allow unattended assistance.
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Quick Support app won't allow unattended assistance.
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I'm sorry, I confused regular remote control with unattended assistance.
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...not available for unattended remote control using the Host app?...Need to help parents control their P7P. If this just doesn't work, it gives me greater incentive to switch back to iPhone 15 pro max and Apple Watch.
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So....you're going to switch your parents back to an iPhone 15 pro max (because it's their device that isn't working with Teamviewer host)?
Or you're looking for an incentive to switch, yourself, because (maybe among other things) the Pixel 7 can't do a single app like Teamviewer host (yet, for all we know)?
If that's the case, I hope you enjoy your iPhone 15 pro max so you can run Teamviewer host then....
My late father, would go to bed EVERY night by 9pm...something he did since I was a kid.
(Of course he got up at 5am and make all sorts of noise, but that's another story).
I was his "computer" mechanic, so every once in a while I would remote into his computer
to do housekeeping. Make sure the recycle bin was empty, update software etc.
One night, around 9:30, I remoted into his PC, opened up his browser, and it closed in a couple
seconds. His internet connection sometimes wasn't the greatest, so I figured I closed it.
Opened it again, and it closed again...THEN the phone rang. He said his computer was acting
up. So I played along. Oh really? Yes! Programs are opening by themselves, I close them and
they open again. After laughing I told him what I was doing. His answer was ok smarta**!
I started laughing again and said it was after 9pm, what are you doing up?
(He was big into vinyl records, big band recordings and was always making tapes for peope)
He was taping something and was still up.
After that encounter, I would wait until around 11pm on Friday...I knew he wouldn't be up at
that hour!
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I'm sorry, I confused regular remote control with unattended assistance.
So....you're going to switch your parents back to an iPhone 15 pro max (because it's their device that isn't working with Teamviewer host)?
Or you're looking for an incentive to switch, yourself, because (maybe among other things) the Pixel 7 can't do a single app like Teamviewer host (yet, for all we know)?
If that's the case, I hope you enjoy your iPhone 15 pro max so you can run Teamviewer host then....
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I am saying iPhone iOS is even worse regarding the limitations because in attended mode, iOS still can't control upon confirmation by the guest. However, given unattended is not achieveable at all with pixel 7 pro, or even upcoming 8 series, I am thinking to abandon Android

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