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I've been waiting for this app and am not disappointed. What a great way to remote control your desktop. All you need is this client on your Evo and a free account at logmein.com. Total no brainer setup. The App is in the market as of today. Very cool.
This is by far the most underwhelming product logmein has come up with. I was a beta tester and I can tell you I would recommend waiting on this to mature (or not buy it at all).
This app force closes, has a memory leak, sometimes will randomly log me out of my pc, and my personal favorite - restarts my phone at will.
I have tried it with
- stock rom
- rooted rom
- diff evo
- new sd card (for giggles)
- on wifi
- on 3g
To ask 30 bucks for this is absolutely crazy. It's a pitty really. I would almost think about it if it was reliable.
Yeah, seriously, this is one of the worst product ever and definitely the worst ever from LogMeIn.
Everything that fr0st said + the app doesn't even let you use your finger as the mouse. Rather, you have to drag the screen around to your static mouse position... W.T.F!
The web interface for LogMeIn is WAY better than this app AND it's free. $30? Again, W.T.F are these guys smoking...?
I've been satisfied with PhoneMyPC since I got my first Android device.
This was the reply from logmein.
We did make changes after the beta ended. If you purchase the finished product and are still having issues, you can call in to our support team at 1-800-993-1790 to get assistance with resolving them.
I hope this helps. Please feel free to contact me if you have any further questions.
Wendy Merrifield | Sr. Support Representative
· ·· LogMeIn, Inc.
www.LogMeIn.com | [email protected]
p. +1-800.993.1790
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Ah, no. Not giving you 30 bucks to call tech support.
I used the beta too and found it difficult to navigate the pc with the static mouse. The 30 dollar price tag is WAY too much for an app in my opinion. Unless it does something amazing.
HTC evo
for those with the technical knowledge and ability, Wyse has a VERY nice RDC/VNC client available. (basically, configure your home pc to accept rdc connections and configure your router to allow the traffic through and viola...direct RDP connection...no logmeinscrewyou needed.)
http://www.wyse.com/products/software/pocketcloud/android/index.asp
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This is by far the most underwhelming product logmein has come up with. I was a beta tester and I can tell you I would recommend waiting on this to mature (or not buy it at all).
This app force closes, has a memory leak, sometimes will randomly log me out of my pc, and my personal favorite - restarts my phone at will.
I have tried it with
- stock rom
- rooted rom
- diff evo
- new sd card (for giggles)
- on wifi
- on 3g
To ask 30 bucks for this is absolutely crazy. It's a pitty really. I would almost think about it if it was reliable.
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All those issues pretty much stink. I've been using it for a couple days pretty hard and have not had a single issue....yet. I'm using a rooted 1.47 and have used it on wifi, 3g and 4g without a problem. The screen movement under the mouse takes a little getting used to but I kind of like it now. I'm new to android and have not tried any of the other remote apps but it sounds like I need may to, to get some perspective. For now it is the only way I can run my company scheduling program on my Evo.
What about a remote control software for mac?
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I haven't had any force closes with lmi for android and I've been using it for over a month. To be able to remote into the more than 100 pcs that I support, from my EVO, is a huge time saver. Worth the money to me.
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Its actually a known issue.
http://community.logmein.com/t5/User-to-User-Support/android-force-close/m-p/40391
I am just saying I would not recommend it. If it works for you thats awesome. I support clients all over the US and logmein would be a great benefit to me. However even when you contact tech support the tell you "its a new app, give it time". So I am waiting for it to improve.
Also. Please provide the rom your using a point of reference. I would like to do some additional testing.
Whooaa 30 bucks for that program? Hmm maybe a penny is what its worth.
*This was posted from my Evo 4G*
Second the request for a Mac option. So far, LogMeIn is the only one i know of that supports Mac, but if there's another way, I'd love to know!
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for those with the technical knowledge and ability, Wyse has a VERY nice RDC/VNC client available. (basically, configure your home pc to accept rdc connections and configure your router to allow the traffic through and viola...direct RDP connection...no logmeinscrewyou needed.)
http://www.wyse.com/products/software/pocketcloud/android/index.asp
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Wow! This is awesome! Thanks a bunch. So much better + free.
OK, well Wyse looks very cool and I configured it and all, but just get a Could not connect to server message...
mmm...
i use it to connect to both work and personal systems...in local network and through firewalls...both RDP and VNC...to a few flavors of Windows and one flavor of linux. aside from not being on a 22" wide screen it works quite well.
the only thing i can think of off the top of my head would be this....
on the username line - did you enter it like "mydomain\myaccount" or "MyComputerName\MyAccount" or simply "MyAccount".
also, you may want to try connecting via IP address...to eliminate DNS issues.
Got it all sorted out, thanks. Awesome program. WAY better than LogMeIn. Hopefully their price is reasonable when it leaves beta.
Nagrom Nniuq said:
Got it all sorted out, thanks. Awesome program. WAY better than LogMeIn. Hopefully their price is reasonable when it leaves beta.
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Just out of curiosity, what fixed it? It didnt work for me at first, then i set up a desktop password and it worked. My only issue with it is that you log into the computer as another user and cannot use it as to start music and have it played through the home computer.
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Just out of curiosity, what fixed it? It didnt work for me at first, then i set up a desktop password and it worked. My only issue with it is that you log into the computer as another user and cannot use it as to start music and have it played through the home computer.
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The Windows Operating System requires a password be used on accounts that allow a RDC session (just a baseline level of security).
not sure about your last sentence.
- my assumption is that you are remoting into your desktop...double clicking on MediaPlayer...and not hearing anything on your EVO....i would expect that behavior.
- if you wish to stream audio from your home pc then you'll need an application designed to that.
- if you meant that you basically wanted to be able to scare your girlfriend by remoting in and turning on winamp with some deathmetal...you should be able to do that, but i have not tested it.
and yes, i pray they provide pleasant pricing for the product.
I just logged in using 3G instead of WiFi (so off the network) and it worked fine.
Hi all,
I hope this is the right section... tried developers section, but i am not allowed to post because of limitted amount of posts (dont want to post if its spam )
So, i did a search on google, a search in the market and a search on this forum and could not find what i was looking for.
I am a complete noob with developing apps and dont have the aspiration to do it in the future....
Here is my idea... hope somebody could react if it is possible at all or maybe that it is a completely stupid idea
My wife and i both have a htc desire and i was searching for a babyphone through wifi.... like i said... could not find it.
What i want:
- Place one device in the room from the baby when it is connected to the internet (wifi or 3g)
- The other device i would like to to take to friends ~600 meters away.
- With the phone i have with me i would like to connect to the other phone (through internet wifi or 3g) and hear what is going on at the room from the baby. (Maybe through a webpage or something like that???)
Hope it is clear to you guys what i ment.
I think it should be possible... something like skype or so?? Together with some options from the standard baby monitors in the market i think this could be a completely new app. Of course it could be extended in the future if you could use sound and the cam from the android device and have live video from the babys room....
104 views and no reaction... Is it a stupid idea or something impossible?
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104 views and no reaction... Is it a stupid idea or something impossible?
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Actually, a Babyphone App is a very good idea
Some of the applications that allow for you to use your phone as a webcam also allow for audio capture, so they could be used similarly to what you want.
but can these apps you mentioned sent the captured video/audio to the android phone from my wife??
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While this is not for a constant audio connection, I used this for a baby monitor when in a bind.
You have to tweak the detection settings to suit your sleeper (snorers/rollers), but once you get it set right, if the wake up and cry the App will call your other phone and you can listen to the room at that time.
Not sure if you can set it to restart the app for false alarms, but logically this is probably in there.
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While this is not for a constant audio connection, I used this for a baby monitor when in a bind.
You have to tweak the detection settings to suit your sleeper (snorers/rollers), but once you get it set right, if the wake up and cry the App will call your other phone and you can listen to the room at that time.
Not sure if you can set it to restart the app for false alarms, but logically this is probably in there.
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Still this is not the best option for me... I want to have sound all the time... If you have kids you will understand.
Other thing is that I want to do it via internet...cheaper
Yeah i have kids. I bought a wireless video baby monitor with two way comminication and support for up to 4 cameras because i couldnt find an android solution.
Someone should definitely develop this idea.
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Hi Master_B82,
I had the same idea, so that I think that it is not too bad ;-)
Actually, I was working hard over the last months in developing such an App, as I need it for myself, too.
The good news: I finished a first, fully functioning version. It is available on android market as "BabyPhone Mobile":
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.babyphonemobile
I hope, you like it
If you have any ideas on improving the App... Just tell me!
Years ago, my elderly parents decided to get a computer and become "high tech". And ever since, I've been having trouble to get them to understand the basic functions of a pc. I still occasionally get the phone call from my dad asking me how to perform the most basic functions like downloading pdf files or downloading music. Just the other day, I was asked again how to get into email.
I recently got them a tablet so they could surf, check email, and eventually skype (when it finally comes out) while sitting comfortably on the couch watching tv. Somehow, they're not having trouble with the tablet.
I don't get it. They've been having trouble with the pc for years. I've always figured it's because of the multi-function aspect of the pc that's been giving them trouble. Almost everything else in the house (microwave, washing machine, dish washer, oven, toaster, tv, dvd player, bluray, etc.) has a perfect hardware-software integration and only serves 1 purpose.
But for some reason, they're not having any trouble with their first touch screen device. They're actually able to explore and find new ways at doing things with the gtab. I've been watching in awe as my parents do one thing after another with the gtab. Never seen them so technical before.
I can't seem to find a pattern here. How come they're still having trouble with the PC and yet they have no trouble with an android tablet? Anyone else observing this in their elderly parents?
PS - My 80 yr old uncle is thinking of getting a tablet after seeing how my parents have been playing with a tablet.
Doing the same thing with my mom too. Recluse and giving up on life at 71. The grab has really changed things alot. I put Facebook as a icon on the main screen and she now pecks away talking to my sister 1200 miles away. And her grandson too. Trying video calls next with Skype but haven't got there with working 2 jobs. The gtab has been a God send for me. Even jewels helps with mental abilities and now she is addicted. I can't get it away from her. I am really greatful for this wonderful device. Took it to work and a coworker bought 2 at woot where I bought mine. She asked me to flash them for her. I told her I would show her since she is like me working in lab and IT. Its a wonderful thing. Dan
The more I think about I think its about ease of use. Giving mom a laptop. She is afraid she would break it. Also size. Desktop means sitting at a desk etc. And a keyboard. She can't type. And oh I am going to break this big expensive machine. But she is good at hunt and peck.
Fear factor. By giving her something small, thin and eyecandy takes the fear out of it. Its more like a microwave screen than a huge desktop or even a laptop. Also her gtab has become personal. This is mine and I like it. Its fun and functional at the same time. You should see her playing stuntcar and steering the screen like a car. I also like to say she is partially blind in one eye and bad in the other. This has really helped her visual aquity alot in the month we have had our devices.
I have had the same experience with my mother. She is a complete technophobe. So much so that she retired early from her career as a nurse because she was about to start having to use a Palm Pilot to monitor prescriptions and such. She's wanted email for years and we've tried computers, laptops, etc, all to no avail. She's intimidated by them or something and after a very short period she just stops using them. This is a woman who's scared to program numbers into her cell phone and usually asks me or my brother to do it for her when she needs someone added.
My brother broke down and bought her an iPad for Christmas this year and it's really stuck with her. She's using it everyday to email people (it's the first time we've been able to get her to email consistently) and search recipes on the Internet. For whatever reason, it doesn't intimidate her like every thing else, including her basic, no-frills cell phone. I don't know what it is, but it's working and I'm not complaining.
I'm starting to wonder if it isn't the touch screen that allows a lot of this. Is it that non-techies are actually more comfortable manipulating things this way? Perhaps a more natural method of input allows them to have a higher comfort level and the higher comfort level allows them to push the boundaries of what they know a little harder. I don't know, but it sure seems to be a common theme.
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Funny how the elderly and the very young take to tablets/itouch but probably for very different reasons. My 4 year old grandson just bought $60 worth of extras off my daughters iTouch while playing a game.
Not to take your thread off topic, but yahoo messenger + video plugin works great on the gtab if you didn't want to wait for Skype to get their butts in gear. My wife and I use it everyday when I travel.
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Not to take your thread off topic, but yahoo messenger + video plugin works great on the gtab if you didn't want to wait for Skype to get their butts in gear. My wife and I use it everyday when I travel.
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Have you any idea how many hours I put in to showing, explaining, showing again, explaining again, etc... my elderly parents, elderly uncles, elderly aunts, and all their computer illiterates how to use skype? Just last week, they had issues with hearing my parents. My parents had to call me and tell me about it. I, in turn, called all the way to the other side of the world to tell them to turn up their volume.
No, I think I will wait for skype on android, thank you very much.
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I, in turn, called all the way to the other side of the world to tell them to turn up their volume.
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Or turn up their hearing aid!
To the computer illiterates, something as simple as double clicking on an exe file is a world of confusion. Those who live in a modern country like the USA have trouble understanding this. Usually, when I tell people that my folks back in my home country have trouble finding the print button or even have trouble understanding the print button concept people don't believe me. Surely, they thought, nobody in the world would have trouble with clicking on print and out comes a printed paper.
Last month, one of our relatives back in my home country paid a couple of guys to set up their computer for them to yahoo vid with us. The dumbasses (the guys who got paid to set up their system) put the camera facing the front window. Those who have the least experience with cameras should know that you never shoot anyone with the sun as the background. Won't see anything. It took me about half an hour to instruct them to move the camera to face somewhere else for this side of the family to see them.
You know how when someone calls you on skype there's a big green button that says "accept"? Well, some people have trouble understanding the concept of a virtual button, so even something as simple as moving the mouse cursor to the accept button and press it requires time, explanation, and frustration.
You think you have it bad dealing with android newbies? Try dealing with people who until the last couple years never even know what a computer was. Now, try explaning what a mouse cursor is over the phone with the other side of the line being 3 thousand miles away.
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And to the previous post, have you any idea how painful it was to instruct them to press the Fn button while pressing the + sign to up the volume? They even had trouble understanding the concept of pressing 2 buttons simultaneously. And no doubt, some people here will not believe me. Again, surely, they thought, everybody in the world knows how to turn up the volume.
My guess is that you've already used some sort of remote PC app, but if not,
I would suggest trying out Teamviewer.
It's free for personal use and is dead simple to set up (you might consider setting it to auto-start when they turn on the PC - just put good PW protection on the service.)
I like TV better than any other Remote app.
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My guess is that you've already used some sort of remote PC app, but if not,
I would suggest trying out Teamviewer.
It's free for personal use and is dead simple to set up (you might consider setting it to auto-start when they turn on the PC - just put good PW protection on the service.)
I like TV better than any other Remote app.
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Been using VNC pro. But again, the problem is trying to get them to install and give me their ip address. If I can remote control their PCs without having them install the software and giving me their ip's, then I might as well hack into banking systems and make myself rich.
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Been using VNC pro. But again, the problem is trying to get them to install and give me their ip address. If I can remote control their PCs without having them install the software and giving me their ip's, then I might as well hack into banking systems and make myself rich.
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I know we went way OT here, but that's why I like TV. It uses the TV server's as an intermediary, so you don't need their IP. All you need is the ID for their install (which never changes) and their password. If you can get it set up the one time, then you'll never have that issue again.
You can even set up a profile/login to store all of the ID's that you commonly connect to (and their passwords) to make connecting/logging in very easy.
I have a small company with 5 remote employees who are at varying degrees of tech savvy. Once I got TV set up with all the ID's, I can take over their computer anytime I want ... Doesn't need their intervention at all.
Can you please tell me what TV stand for? Don't tell me to google. Every google result has something to do with television.
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Can you please tell me what TV stand for? Don't tell me to google. Every google result has something to do with television.
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TeamViewer
http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
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TeamViewer
http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
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Just spent the last 2 hours trying to instruct relatives how to run teamviewer on their vista pc. No go. I gave up after an hour trying to explain to them what a window was. I even showed them my screen showing them step by step instruction. They just couldn't understand why I couldn't "remote control" their pc because I already knew their email pass.
Again, you people think its bad dealing with droid noobs? Try being tech support for people who don't know what a mouse cursor is on the other side of the world.
TV is no go. Any other suggestion? Apparently, checking a box and clicking next is too complicated.
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Just spent the last 2 hours trying to instruct relatives how to run teamviewer on their vista pc. No go. I gave up after an hour trying to explain to them what a window was. I even showed them my screen showing them step by step instruction. They just couldn't understand why I couldn't "remote control" their pc because I already knew their email pass.
Again, you people think its bad dealing with droid noobs? Try being tech support for people who don't know what a mouse cursor is on the other side of the world.
TV is no go. Any other suggestion? Apparently, checking a box and clicking next is too complicated.
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I'm surprised they can turn the computer on.
I really don't know of anything easier than TeamViewer.
Did you try using the QuickSession? I think you can download the QuickSession app and pre-configure it to 'auto-dial' back to your system. 'all' you have to do is get them to run the app (which sounds like a chore in and of itself).
If you figure out how to get through this pain one time and get control of the system, TeamViewer will be your best friend forever
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I'm surprised they can turn the computer on.
I really don't know of anything easier than TeamViewer.
Did you try using the QuickSession? I think you can download the QuickSession app and pre-configure it to 'auto-dial' back to your system. 'all' you have to do is get them to run the app (which sounds like a chore in and of itself).
If you figure out how to get through this pain one time and get control of the system, TeamViewer will be your best friend forever
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Unfortunately, most of the problem is getting them to run the damn app.
See, we have to understand the fact that some parts of the world just haven't dealt much with a multitasking machine. A tv, vcr, frige, radio, etc. all have perfect software-hardware integration. people don't even notice the software part. They think the hardware is all of it. But with a computer they have to deal directly with software. Huge part of my problem was getting them to press software buttons. They just can't wrap their heads around soft buttons.
This is why back in my home country people get paid ridiculously high for teaching basic microsoft office skills. Heck I should quit my job and go back there and be a professor there.
God that was frustrating.
My mother just moved, and her old WinXP PC didn't survive the move. I built her a new one using an dual core Atom/ION2 mobo, and since she only browsed and checked email I installed Ubuntu. She is 84 years old.
I had made shortcuts for Firefox and Yahoo email on her WinXP box, so I did the same with the Ubuntu one. I even installed a WinXP-looking desktop wallpaper.
She had U-verse internet installed, and the tech booted the PC to do the online registration. He had to call me and said he had looked all over and couldn't find Internet explorer on the PC. I had to tell him that he was using a Linux OS, and not a Microsoft OS!
I considered offering my second Woot g-tablet to my mom, but not sure if she would really use it.
Wow, great thread reading about technology touching people in a positive way...
IMHO, LogMeIn Hamachi is hands down easier than ANYTHING else. Install, join network, finished.
It works similar to TV, but with less 'stuff'.
Install on your computer an create "My Hamachi Group"
Create a password for "My Hamachi Group"
Give your group name "My Hamachi Group" and "group password" to whom ever you wish to join your network
They simply install, enter "My Hamachi Group" and the "group password" and are now on your virtual private network.
Use good old native remote desktop to view remote computers, not another program. Works excellent with Vista and Seven when installed with right-click and Run as Administrator, no special tricks for XP.
Runs by default at startup and you can see who is available and connected at all times.
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IMHO, LogMeIn Hamachi is hands down easier than ANYTHING else. Install, join network, finished.
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I looks like that is a windows program. I, and now my mother, use Linux. Fortunately (for her) she lives close enough that I can just go over to her apartment. If she ever starts to actually use her Ubuntu PC for something other than browsing/email, then I'm screwed!!
Another epic fail for Microsoft - seems the surface RT OS does not have any alarm clock functions (unless it's very well hidden). Seems to me that this is such a basic function in an OS that I find it surprising that Win RT does not have it - (both Android and IOS have a multiplicity of alarms available). Any solutions?
The store is full of different Alarm Clocks, many of them for Free.
Robin
robincop deel 2 said:
The store is full of different Alarm Clocks, many of them for Free.
Robin
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Not a single one works because they must be running in the foreground and active - so when the tablet sleeps they become "deactivated" - this is apparently a fault of the OS. You can see this by reading some of the reviews.
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Not a single one works because they must be running in the foreground and active - so when the tablet sleeps they become "deactivated" - this is apparently a fault of the OS. You can see this by reading some of the reviews.
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I am sure it will get addressed. With App stores the need to bundle os apps is not needed anymore.
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Another epic fail for Microsoft - seems the surface RT OS does not have any alarm clock functions (unless it's very well hidden). Seems to me that this is such a basic function in an OS that I find it surprising that Win RT does not have it - (both Android and IOS have a multiplicity of alarms available). Any solutions?
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Could you use the calendar to set an alarm? That's kinda what I would have expected to use.
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Could you use the calendar to set an alarm? That's kinda what I would have expected to use.
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Unless the Calendar is running in the foreground (active) I do not think so. I am noticing that when the Surface sleeps, or when you switch from certain running apps to another, the first process shuts down - it's not 100% true but mostly so. Kind of defeats the purpose of having alarm or wake up functions of the app setting the alarm always has to be actively running.
I've tried 3 or 4 alarms in the store, they all work sporadically at best. To get the best results, I set the tablet not to sleep when the lid is closed or after X minutes while on power and left it plugged in and turned on all night.
The calendar seems to wait until the next time you turn the device on to update and show notifications.
I gave up having an alarm on the Surface, it seemed a bit too unreliable to me.
You could try using Windows scheduled tasks; that's what I did for an alarm on my PC the few times I needed one. No idea if Scheduled Tasks will do Connected Standby, though. In fact, I'd guess that they won't.
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You could try using Windows scheduled tasks; that's what I did for an alarm on my PC the few times I needed one. No idea if Scheduled Tasks will do Connected Standby, though. In fact, I'd guess that they won't.
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Right, connected tasks will not work - I cannot believe that Microsoft still can't come to grips with background apps - even Apple allows these to run. I mean you cannot even stream music with the screen off except with the poorly designed internal music app. Alarms (or the lack of thereof) have plagued MS since the early days of WinCE - it's no wonder that MS has failed big time in the mobile sector. Whoever at Microsoft thinks Win RT is a multitasking OS is nuts.
Well, end of rant - do you suppose there's a workaround on the horizon?
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Right, connected tasks will not work - I cannot believe that Microsoft still can't come to grips with background apps - even Apple allows these to run. I mean you cannot even stream music with the screen off except with the poorly designed internal music app. Alarms (or the lack of thereof) have plagued MS since the early days of WinCE - it's no wonder that MS has failed big time in the mobile sector. Whoever at Microsoft thinks Win RT is a multitasking OS is nuts.
Well, end of rant - do you suppose there's a workaround on the horizon?
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windows RT is multitasking just in the Microsoft way. The act of app suspension and app killing takes the burden of open apps away from the user into the OS managed space (even iOS does this), however you should be looking at the display being off as suspend, I can understand them not letting apps other than their own preventing the system from suspending, otherwise anyone could write an app that is going to give you horrible battery life on your surface that never sleeps.
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windows RT is multitasking just in the Microsoft way. The act of app suspension and app killing takes the burden of open apps away from the user into the OS managed space (even iOS does this), however you should be looking at the display being off as suspend, I can understand them not letting apps other than their own preventing the system from suspending, otherwise anyone could write an app that is going to give you horrible battery life on your surface that never sleeps.
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Not sure that i buy this - I can set an alarm on my Iphone 4S and then let the screen go off (sleep) - in the morning it will wake me up and of course, battery life is fantastic. Same goes for Android. On Win RT how bad would the battery life be if MS had a simple alarm clock running in the bkgnd - I mean I'm not asking to run Halo while it'as sleeping!
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Not sure that i buy this - I can set an alarm on my Iphone 4S and then let the screen go off (sleep) - in the morning it will wake me up and of course, battery life is fantastic. Same goes for Android. On Win RT how bad would the battery life be if MS had a simple alarm clock running in the bkgnd - I mean I'm not asking to run Halo while it'as sleeping!
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That was more in regards to third party music apps. With the alarm clock though if you take notice they will both be first party apps.
i assume that anyone needing or owning a tablet alreay own a smart phone, why the heck that ppl moan about things like alarms, and camera and etc. these features increase price. i wud happily purchase a cheaper surface with no camera, alarm, radio, gps, and so on, cos thats what my smartphone is for. the tablet is for proper work and entertainment. but hey opinions differ
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i assume that anyone needing or owning a tablet alreay own a smart phone, why the heck that ppl moan about things like alarms, and camera and etc. these features increase price. i wud happily purchase a cheaper surface with no camera, alarm, radio, gps, and so on, cos thats what my smartphone is for. the tablet is for proper work and entertainment. but hey opinions differ
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The alarm wouldn't increase price of the tablet at all, and it's such a basic feature that there's really no excuse for MS not having it.
spaco22 said:
i assume that anyone needing or owning a tablet alreay own a smart phone,
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netham45 said:
it's such a basic feature that there's really no excuse for MS not having it.
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but you don't use your pc as an alarm clock do you? and if it were an x86 tablet like the plenty that already existed you wouldn't complain about the lack of alarm clock would you?
docfreed said:
Unless the Calendar is running in the foreground (active) I do not think so. I am noticing that when the Surface sleeps, or when you switch from certain running apps to another, the first process shuts down - it's not 100% true but mostly so. Kind of defeats the purpose of having alarm or wake up functions of the app setting the alarm always has to be actively running.
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calendar alerts go off even if the calendar is closed. I get alerts for all my meetings.
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schettj said:
calendar alerts go off even if the calendar is closed. I get alerts for all my meetings.
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OK that's a start, do they also go off if the Surface is sleeping (screen off)?
lilstevie said:
but you don't use your pc as an alarm clock do you? and if it were an x86 tablet like the plenty that already existed you wouldn't complain about the lack of alarm clock would you?
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I don't understand these posts where people tell you how to use your device from a practical sense. I know people who use alarms on tablets so why should you tell us it shouldn't be a feature. Personally my daughter uses her android tablet all the time as an alarm clock next to her bed, while her phone is in the other room charging at night. I also would use the alarm on a Surface as I don't always keep every device I own at arms reach.
Saw the same argument about not having GPS on the Surface -I can see people wanting a GPS on a bigger screen like a tablet. So let's not judge everybody's use . : .
Calendar reminders/notifications for sure work when the device is in sleep mode.
I often hear my Surface at night in the room next door, or from my back-pack when traveling. It even allows you to "snooze". If it is very convenient as an alarm clock I do not know. It is kind of a hassle to set-up I guess.
MS in general does know how to do it of course, the native alarm app on the Windows Phones (7 and 8) works flawless and has been my best mate in the past years when traveling. It has only let me down once, but that was because the battery of the phone ran flat during the night.....
I was not aware of the "problem" of the Alarm Clock apps in the suspend state. It kinda defeats the purpose of the app if it does not run when the Surface and its owner are sleep mode...
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guitar1969 said:
I don't understand these posts where people tell you how to use your device from a practical sense. I know people who use alarms on tablets so why should you tell us it shouldn't be a feature. Personally my daughter uses her android tablet all the time as an alarm clock next to her bed, while her phone is in the other room charging at night. I also would use the alarm on a Surface as I don't always keep every device I own at arms reach.
Saw the same argument about not having GPS on the Surface -I can see people wanting a GPS on a bigger screen like a tablet. So let's not judge everybody's use . : .
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I'm more referring to the fact that it is a windows tablet, and this isn't a complaint that people have had with previous versions of windows, even on tablets. It is a use case that Microsoft have probably never even thought about.
I use XMouse - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.stripe1.xmouse - for remote control of my laptop from my phone. Linux-only, but windows versions of similar programs exist, of course.
I haven't found anything similar for smartwatches. In principle it'd only be useful as a mousepad, and a small one at that, but I think it'd be cool. Has anyone found anything similar?
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I use XMouse - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.stripe1.xmouse - for remote control of my laptop from my phone. Linux-only, but windows versions of similar programs exist, of course.
I haven't found anything similar for smartwatches. In principle it'd only be useful as a mousepad, and a small one at that, but I think it'd be cool. Has anyone found anything similar?
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Well I think we people are trying to do so much with these smartwatches that are not intented for. I can not see any use for what you are describing especially practicality of it. First of all, any app that you use on the watch is actually running on the phone. So if you want to remotely control your PC, just use the phone itself. Using your watch for that purpose will be extremely slow and would be much of an hassle rather than convenient. The touchscreen on the watch is nowhere close to the sensitivity of the touchsreen of any modern day smartphone. That is another issue. If you are really keen on using it as a mousepad only, without seeing anything on the watch, maybe than it maybe faster but than again it has to first communicate with the phone than the phone will communicate with the PC so again there will be hell of a lag...
But my answer to your question is I don't know any app that can do that at the moment.
It depends on what you wanna do
Well, that might answer your question. As far as I know, no "mouse" exists on watch but that doesn't mean you can't control your PC with your watch.
You might use Unified Remote, tasker and it's smartwatch's version. Unified remote is an app that enables you to control your PC wirelessly from your phone (for example, you can play or pause windows media center, launch any program...), very useful and customizable with paid version. Then, tasker is a really really useful app (maybe a bit hard to understand at first) with which you'll be able to activate only few options of your apps. Tasker live extension shows these options on the watch. I've never tried myself but give it a try and let us know.
I don't know if it's clear enough but, for example, I use sonos system (those are speakers connected to wifi that you control with a special app on your phone), using tasker and tasker extension, I can control sonos (play, pause, skip, volume,...) using my watch.
Of course, as the guy above me said, this will never as easy and fast as on your phone. However there are apps that are intended for controlling your PC.
PS : excuse me for my not-that-good-english.
I'm well aware of unified remote and tasker, I've bought tasker since years ago.
The problem is that there's no real way to translate mousepad-type movements to instructions. I have an idea using multiple hotzones in a UCCW widget so that the further away the touch is from the center of the screen, the further the mouse moves. Like a touch nib, the lenovo type.
In answer to the usefulness, why not use it to remote control the phone, not the pc? Android devices can be fairly big nowadays. Mine is 7.7 inches, if I had a 10 inch tab I can see wanting to put it up on the table, lean back, and remote control it.
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I'm well aware of unified remote and tasker, I've bought tasker since years ago.
The problem is that there's no real way to translate mousepad-type movements to instructions. I have an idea using multiple hotzones in a UCCW widget so that the further away the touch is from the center of the screen, the further the mouse moves. Like a touch nib, the lenovo type.
In answer to the usefulness, why not use it to remote control the phone, not the pc? Android devices can be fairly big nowadays. Mine is 7.7 inches, if I had a 10 inch tab I can see wanting to put it up on the table, lean back, and remote control it.
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you can already do this, buy logitec wireless mouse and keyboard with the unify usb dongle, I have this for my laptop and it works on my Z1, I have a usb adaptor with a full size usb socket on the end and micro usb on the other - plugging into my Z1 gives full control using the mouse and keyboard
Geoffxx said:
you can already do this, buy logitec wireless mouse and keyboard with the unify usb dongle, I have this for my laptop and it works on my Z1, I have a usb adaptor with a full size usb socket on the end and micro usb on the other - plugging into my Z1 gives full control using the mouse and keyboard
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Well, my objective is to use what I'm already wearing rather than carry more gadgets =) already use a wireless mouse myself sometimes. Having peripherals which are the same size as my tablet isn't fun though
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As soon as I find one, I WILL let you know
I'm on a quest to find an app that can REMOTE CONTROL my phone like a mouse or track pad...and as soon as I find it or build it...I will let everyone know about it. FOR THOSE OF YOU good for nothing, pessimist, dream killers, lack of vision, non-dreamers ...I say this...SOME OF US advanced business, guru, tech-geeks have projector phones or need to do presentations and have a phone machine that can do it. Besides my 2013 retina macbook pro or my i7 HP laptop, which im sure could do a fine job presenting or showing presentations through its screen or projector (attachment), I prefer to minimize my load of carrying stuff, specially when I ride my R6 to work meetings. So Mr. ngoonee YOU KEEP on searching and as soon as I find this coveted app I will let you know. Cheers
MonacodesAffaires said:
I'm on a quest to find an app that can REMOTE CONTROL my phone like a mouse or track pad...and as soon as I find it or build it...I will let everyone know about it. FOR THOSE OF YOU good for nothing, pessimist, dream killers, lack of vision, non-dreamers ...I say this...SOME OF US advanced business, guru, tech-geeks have projector phones or need to do presentations and have a phone machine that can do it. Besides my 2013 retina macbook pro or my i7 HP laptop, which im sure could do a fine job presenting or showing presentations through its screen or projector (attachment), I prefer to minimize my load of carrying stuff, specially when I ride my R6 to work meetings. So Mr. ngoonee YOU KEEP on searching and as soon as I find this coveted app I will let you know. Cheers
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I guess I am one of those dream killers you mention. First of all, I am not trying to discourage anyone trying to do anything.
You can for sure use smartwatch as a presentation controller with buttons like the Logitech ones. It will work. But for practicality, I simply don't see sw2 being used as a mousepad. It is just my opinion and you don't have to agree with me.
So good luck with your search/app development.
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ngoonee said:
I use XMouse - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.stripe1.xmouse - for remote control of my laptop from my phone. Linux-only, but windows versions of similar programs exist, of course.
I haven't found anything similar for smartwatches. In principle it'd only be useful as a mousepad, and a small one at that, but I think it'd be cool. Has anyone found anything similar?
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How does this actually work? i cant seem to use the app and theres no guides
brooker88 said:
How does this actually work? i cant seem to use the app and theres no guides
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If you don't understand it it's not meant for you, only works with an X server meaning for Linux computers (possibly can be used for X apps in a mac)
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If you don't understand it it's not meant for you, only works with an X server meaning for Linux computers (possibly can be used for X apps in a mac)
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I wanted to use it on Linux mint 17 but I'm new to Linux so guess I should give it a miss for now
brooker88 said:
I wanted to use it on Linux mint 17 but I'm new to Linux so guess I should give it a miss for now
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Well, basically....
1) SSH on the laptop
2) Profit
If you don't understand that then don't bother.
Lol
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