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Hi
I can't seem to find an answer to this anywhere.
I'm having an issue with the youtube app, it won't launch after it has been updated, so I hope that a cold boot can fix this, however I can't do it with the usual trick.
When I hold the volume down + power button, I get a menu where I can choose the following:
Enter SD Down mode
Factory reset
Exit update mode
Does anyone know how to perform a cold boot on the LTE version of the Infinity?
A "cold boot" on all devices works exactly the same: Turn it off (not only standby), turn it on. Anything more is either voodoo or includes modifying storage content.
Okay, I thought a cold boot was real
Can you help me with my youtube issue then?
When I open youtube, I get the messge "The application Youtube has stopped". The only way I can open it, is if I remove the application update, but I would really like to use the newest version.
A cold boot is very real.
We have a [How-To] All-In-One Guide For Asus Infinity (TF700) in which all these things are discussed. Right here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833212
It very clearly says:
Note: Make sure your device is OFF before using this.
** Cold Boot - FastBoot - Wipe Data Menu **
Press Volume Down + Power untill you see a white text on the screen then release the buttons. Use Volume Down to navigate and Volume Up to confirm your selection.You have 10 seconds to make your choise, or else the system will do a Cold Boot by default.
So don't press anything when the white text appears and it will cold boot.
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A "cold boot" on all devices works exactly the same: Turn it off (not only standby), turn it on. Anything more is either voodoo or includes modifying storage content.
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Please don't answer if you have no idea what you're talking about. A cold boot clears the cache, a regular boot does not.
No, as I said in my first post, this way doesn't work on the LTE model.
I'm open to all ideas, but I have also tried it with the volume up button, which just tells me that no USB cable is plugged in.
ShadowLea said:
Please don't answer if you have no idea what you're talking about. A cold boot clears the cache, a regular boot does not.
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Where is this cache located that is cleared with this procedure?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32365090&postcount=13
Not sure if the above link is relevant to the YouTube crash bug.
I remember reading on one of the Android forums about a fix by setting YouTube to the english language or something like this.
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Where is this cache located that is cleared with this procedure?
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App caches are available under: settings\apps\downloaded\clear cache, uninstall updates, disable (if available)
Thats OK said:
App caches are available under: settings\apps\downloaded\clear cache, uninstall updates, disable (if available)
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Yes, but app caches have nothing to do with cold boot. Cold boot is power on, executing the bootloader and starting an OS, that's the definition of cold boot since 50 years for any computer.
And I argue that the procedure with holding Volume- and waiting does *exactly* the same as a normal power-on. To everyone who claims it does more: please provide a reproducible way to prove any differences. Otherwise it's voodoo.
@ Thats OK - Thank you very much. Changing the Android language to English, has fixed the youtube app.
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Yes, but app caches have nothing to do with cold boot. Cold boot is power on, executing the bootloader and starting an OS, that's the definition of cold boot since 50 years for any computer.
And I argue that the procedure with holding Volume- and waiting does *exactly* the same as a normal power-on. To everyone who claims it does more: please provide a reproducible way to prove any differences. Otherwise it's voodoo.
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I remembered a while ago I did ask Asus tech support about "cold boot" vs normal power cycle and he said: A cold boot is different from a normal power cycle (hit the power button to turn off and on). With normal power off/on, it will not clear various caches in ram, kind of like you restart a computer from a restart button, versus you unplug the power cord then plug it back in. a cold boot it performs a "clean" boot. He provided example like video display, if you experiencing flickering or color fade or color spot on the screen a normal boot will not address the issue but a cold boot will. I did ask him about what are "various caches" and being told that they are hard ware cache like graphic, preloaded ram space etc..(too much technical at this point). And yes you're right he said it has nothing to do with application cache or data. Again a normal boot is NOT same as cold boot. He said the right way to do a cold boot (he refered a cold boot as hard reset, they are the same under Asus technical term), you must unplug your device, then power down, then do the button combinations, navigate to the Android icon then execute it. A cold boot does resolved issue like FC, weird screen issue, stutter, lag etc...(it will not resolved issue if software bug, or hardware issue). The last thing he said is hitting reset with the pin hole is same as cold boot (clear various caches).
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I did ask him about what are "various caches" and being told that they are hard ware cache like graphic, preloaded ram space etc..(too much technical at this point).
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Voodoo spread by Asus support to keep the customer busy.
All those "various caches" are made of RAM. So they lose their content when the power is turned off, and are initialized when the system is booted. When the bootloader screen appears, these caches are already as clean as possible.
Let's try to find some evidence. The Tegra 3 TRM says:
* Frozen boot: The RTC partition power transitions from OFF to ON
* Cold boot: The main partition power transitions from OFF to ON with no previous state available, SW must construct all state from scratch. Boot ROM is executed. DRAM is brought on-line.
* Warm boot: The main partition power transitions from OFF to ON with previous state available, SW checks for the preserved state integrity and restores the saved state from DRAM, which was in self-refresh prior to warm-boot. This is also called Deep Sleep wake-up or LP0 exit.
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As you can see, "cold boot" is the only one that involves the boot ROM (which starts the bootloader) - or vice versa: any reboot that involves the bootloader screen is a cold boot.
buhohitr said:
A cold boot does resolved issue like FC, weird screen issue, stutter, lag etc...(it will not resolved issue if software bug, or hardware issue).
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No doubt on that. Running programs can have an impact on each other and on the system performance. But as long as nobody provides a plausible explanation what exactly that magical button fiddling in the bootloader would really do differently, I don't believe it makes a difference *how* you reboot.
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@ Thats OK - Thank you very much. Changing the Android language to English, has fixed the youtube app.
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No problem my friend!
So glad to be of some small help.
Enjoy YouTubing!
jim
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Voodoo spread by Asus support to keep the customer busy.
All those "various caches" are made of RAM. So they lose their content when the power is turned off, and are initialized when the system is booted. When the bootloader screen appears, these caches are already as clean as possible.
Let's try to find some evidence. The Tegra 3 TRM says:
As you can see, "cold boot" is the only one that involves the boot ROM (which starts the bootloader) - or vice versa: any reboot that involves the bootloader screen is a cold boot.
No doubt on that. Running programs can have an impact on each other and on the system performance. But as long as nobody provides a plausible explanation what exactly that magical button fiddling in the bootloader would really do differently, I don't believe it makes a difference *how* you reboot.
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I don't think that Asus developers just waisting time to put the extra icon in there just for fun. So it's just common sense that on our PC, we could unplug the power cable or hit the switch on the power supply to get cold boot. However on the infinity, there is a non removable battery build in so you can't removed or unplugged it. In short, a cold boot is like take out the battery of the infinity..make sense!!
buhohitr said:
I don't think that Asus developers just waisting time to put the extra icon in there just for fun. So it's just common sense that on our PC, we could unplug the power cable or hit the switch on the power supply to get cold boot. However on the infinity, there is a non removable battery build in so you can't removed or unplugged it. In short, a cold boot is like take out the battery of the infinity..make sense!!
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This is a nice theory, and it would really make sense, but if you do this "cold boot" procedure, the power stays on, as you can verify for yourself. And also on the PC there is no difference between booting from soft power off (power button) or hard power off (switch on power supply).
The whole thing is more like if you press F8 on the PC - you get a boot menu, but then you can still select to start Windows normally.
Is it not possible that the cold boot icon in the bootloader menu actually clears the cache partition (which doesn't get cleared on a normal power on/off cycle)?
I would have to believe that the cold boot does do something different than simply powering off and on - why else would they include it?
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jtrosky said:
Is it not possible that the cold boot icon in the bootloader menu actually clears the cache partition (which doesn't get cleared on a normal power on/off cycle)?
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I tried it - it doesn't. And it would not have any major effect, because the cache partition is only used for communication between Android and the recovery.
jtrosky said:
I would have to believe that the cold boot does do something different than simply powering off and on - why else would they include it?
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Maybe just to start Android normally if you changed your mind? Just like the "Start Windows normally" option in the Windows bootloader if you pressed F8.
hi every body!
I have an original shield tablet, also it effected by kill switch.
I try to delete the TegraOTA.apk by following the instruction of @Bogdacutu http://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tablet/general/kill-kill-switch-shield-tablet-xx-t3179489 then it's ok for a month.
But the trouble is when I change the IMEI (successfull) then update OTA3.1.1 via recovery. At this time, any thing also ok, but I did't delete TegraOTA.apk again, then turn on wifi for try to get OTA4.0 directly. unfortunately the tablet was shutting down after one minutes, then automatically boot to recovery before change to black screen . I understood that skill switch is activated!!! Although IMEI different !
Now when connect to PC, it become a APX device, in details http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Nvflash
I try for some of solution but all of them not work. Also solution of @carlompms
good evening,
I received my recall tablet yesterday, before connecting the new one, I installed a new rom, for now I have 2 tables to work.
in the process I do not know what I did my tablet brick in apx mode.
for exit apx mode I connected to the PC, press power button until you hear the disconnect sound on pc(tablet turn off)
Press "Volume Down" -> "Power", hold "Volume Down" and leave Power buttons till device boots
It may work for you too
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Then if @Thepiewarrior, if you can read this post, please instruct for me that, how can you clear your trouble before: http://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tablet/help/unlocked-bootloader-rooting-shield-t2995472 tks.
So, after my trouble, every one should remember that, must be deleted the TegraOTA.apk before go to online, then maybe all of solution try to change IMEI may be should't work.
Now, I waiting for some of solution from the expert (such as nvflash...), maybe there're some of member like me...
Have a new China headunit with android 7.1.2 and first there was no FM radio. Searched XDA and with password m123456 got into factory settings and there the radio stood OFF?? Changed it to ON and after restart it was there. But there's no signal, no sound, nothing. Anyone ideas?
Also, this is a monitor with no buttons. How do you get in recoverymode when there's no on/off button? I only have the reset possibility (little hole on the side of the monitor).
Info headunit; see attachments
pgee said:
Have a new China headunit with android 7.1.2 and first there was no FM radio. Searched XDA and with password m123456 got into factory settings and there the radio stood OFF?? Changed it to ON and after restart it was there. But there's no signal, no sound, nothing. Anyone ideas?
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Did you select your country as well ?
If you mean the region for the radio in factory settings, I did.
If you mean region in Android, like date and clock? Somehow I only can set it manually. If I choose automatic date/time it stays on Chinatime?
And do you have your radio antenna Installed?
For going into recovery:
Press reseat button until you see flashing the button lights..(approx 25sec)
Release and press again until see your nougat logo.
Release and wait for recovery menu
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Radio antenna, isn't that the microphone? There's no separate antenna plug? See https://www.seicane.com/android-hd-...hd-1080p-video-steering-wheel-control-s018848
Recovery; press reset button until you see flashing the button lights.. (approx 25sec) >> what button lights flash? There are no buttons
WOW would you look at that unit !! Does it drive the car for you too !!?? lol Judging by the pictures it must be on the box somewhere but when zooming in I cant see if/where it would say ANT..
Yes, looks impressive, car almost drives itself . Works very well, nice touchscreen, only no radio signal. Also the steering wheel buttons can't be changed. But they work well, although would be nice if I could customize them.
Sorry to say, but there's nothing on the box for a Antenna. The only thing saying something about an Antenna is on the big plug/connector witch connects to the original radio. On the attached picture there are 2 pins ANT. Does it use the original car antenna through the connector of the original radio?
It says that it syncs with the cars bluetooth have you been able to get and kind of sound with it ?
Your new unit don't have radio, the radio is from stock unit, you must have to connect your new unit in conjunction with the stock unit. And there is a "app icon" that switch to original menu and there's your radio.
You just change the stock screen for the new one and connect the original cable of the stock screen to the connection labeled car lvds
Cid6.7: yes, bluetooth works fine and the sound is good!
Hugovw1976: I did not know there wouldn't be a radio in Andorid. I can switch between stock and Android. But, when I go to Android the stockradio stops. The only way to go from stockradio to Android is when I push long the GPS button on the steeringwheel. Stockradio keeps playing and GPS (IGO) starts on the screen. I can go back to the radio but then the GPS stops.
Are you saying there isn't even a FM receiver in the central box?
Oh, and thanks for the replies, now we are getting somewhere.
pgee said:
Cid6.7: yes, bluetooth works fine and the sound is good!
Hugovw1976: I did not know there wouldn't be a radio in Andorid. I can switch between stock and Android. But, when I go to Android the stockradio stops. The only way to go from stockradio to Android is when I push long the GPS button on the steeringwheel. Stockradio keeps playing and GPS (IGO) starts on the screen. I can go back to the radio but then the GPS stops.
Are you saying there isn't even a FM receiver in the central box?
Oh, and thanks for the replies, now we are getting somewhere.
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I install a similar unit (the central box is the same) on a Audi Q3 an there's no radio.
Thanks, that makes everything clear. Do you have experience with the steering wheel settings? When I turn it on in the factorysettings and restart the system it comes up in Android settingsmenu. When I start it up I get a black screen?
When in recovery mode how to scroll in the menu?
Or does the touchscreen work in recovery mode?
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When in recovery mode how to scroll in the menu?
Or does the touchscreen work in recovery mode?
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Usually with the same reset button...
Short press-》 move to next option
Long press -》 validate option
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pgee said:
Thanks, that makes everything clear. Do you have experience with the steering wheel settings? When I turn it on in the factorysettings and restart the system it comes up in Android settingsmenu. When I start it up I get a black screen?
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Sorry I can't help
Learned from another topic when you have Canbus you can't set the steering wheel keys
ikerg said:
And do you have your radio antenna Installed?
For going into recovery:
Press reseat button until you see flashing the button lights..(approx 25sec)
Release and press again until see your nougat logo.
Release and wait for recovery menu
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Hi, can't get into recovery.
Do I have to press reset button when unit is off or on?
Took power cable off, pressed reset button, put power cable on and followed your instructions. Did not work.
Please advise.
Solved:
First in the systemmenu there was no way to activate developer settings in the normal way. Solved this with Total Commander.
Bought a USB cable, in my case A to A. Couldn't get in because USB standard is set on 'Host' and it is not possible to connect with a OTG cable.
In factorysettings wrote 'abdon' and immediately the headunit came up on the with USB connected Windows PC .
On PC choose to see the files. It works!
Downloaded latest SDK. Opened commandprompt and changed dir to the SDK directory.
Put in command: 'adb devices' (without the quotes) and there it was!!
The command that worked for me to get into recovery is: 'adb reboot recovery'
Only problem left: fastboot is not working in recovery mode. I think the problem is that the USBconnection goes back in Hostmode when booting into recovery. Anyone now how to solve this?
I was having some problems with adaptative battery turning on by itself so i talk with the support and they give me a trick that actually fixed the problem. They said that it can fix also another problems so i will explain here, in the worst case is just a waste of time.
Turn the phone off and connect to the charger.
Enter recovery:
-Hold power + Vol Up until the phone turn on and then release power but not volume.
-You will see and ****ed up android. Hold power and press vol up for 3 seconds and release volume up.
With this you will be in the recovery. With the vol keys go to "Perform a Graphic Test" and press power to execute. It is kinda weird but it doesn't perform a graphic test, it just reinstall a update or something
So if you are experiencing some weird behavior you can try this and see if it solve it.
I've done it, but the Wifi issue comes back aber 1-2 days
or immediatelly if you perform some FlyMode ENABLE/DISABLE
I made a video of the mobile after the refrresh and after the issue comes back
Paired with 2 other smartphones
You can notice when the issue is "active" the mobile just see 1-3 WiFis SSID (normally they're 10 or more)
And it even reports a wrong signal strenght
Plus it fails to connect to the Paired Wifi several times (eventaully always)
Resetting the Android networking system doen not work
Usually a soft clean helps (reboot with VolUP + power and wait for AndroidONE screen to appear twice (I guess they're actually 2 consecuve reboots)
Lol Support sold you a lemon. The "graphics test" is literally just playing the animations the recovery should when installing an update. It's not doing a damn thing. I think the reboot just helped you out.
I had the wifi issue and it worked for me. Now wifi connects after enable / disable flymode without rebooting the device.
thanks
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Lol Support sold you a lemon. The "graphics test" is literally just playing the animations the recovery should when installing an update. It's not doing a damn thing. I think the reboot just helped you out.
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except that it doesn't play any animation at all...
rickbosch said:
Lol Support sold you a lemon. The "graphics test" is literally just playing the animations the recovery should when installing an update. It's not doing a damn thing. I think the reboot just helped you out.
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They didn't sold my a lemon because i did it and it actually solve the problem. Before i tried everything, including reset, hard reset, deleting all the battery system app cache and data, disabling them, enabling them again, nothing worked and adaptative battery kept turning itself on. I had the problem for months. I asked the guy how permorming a graphic test is related to some bug in adaptative battery and he said he doesn't know and Ingenineer team said that to him, it seems that it is not only a graphic test, maybe Nokia touch something there. The thing is it solved my problem, that is why i shared it here just in case.
tony_nieman said:
I had the wifi issue and it worked for me. Now wifi connects after enable / disable flymode without rebooting the device.
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I think you should wait just 1-2 days before saying it. I hope it really worked cause I have the same wifi issue.
Heisemberg_91 said:
I think you should wait just 1-2 days before saying it. I hope it really worked cause I have the same wifi issue.
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This morning, after the night in flightmode, wifi doesn't connect without a reboot. But now, just the same as yesterday, i can switch flightmode on / off and wifi connects normally. So maybe it depends on the time the flightmode is enabled?
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This morning, after the night in flightmode, wifi doesn't connect without a reboot. But now, just the same as yesterday, i can switch flightmode on / off and wifi connects normally. So maybe it depends on the time the flightmode is enabled?
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I dont know mate..I usually switch to airplane mode during the night when I go to sleep cause I dont want to loose battery during the night..we can try not to activate it but I hope we will have a fix in January.
I experienced this problem after installing the January Security Patch on my Nokia 7 Plus. My router is a Huawei and my network SSID is hidden. I tried a few things:
* Reset network settings
* Restarted in Safe Mode - added network and could connect (note, it's a hidden network so I selected that option in Advanced Settings)
* Rebooted into normal operation, would not connect
* Modified my router's settings so the network was no longer hiding its SSID.........phone connected!! Seems stable so far.
Can anyone confirm any similarities with the above and if the steps work for you?
I have two Nokia 7+ phones, one works fine on Wifi the other refused to connect.
I did the graphics test as above and it now connects without any issues.
I will wait and see how long this 'fix' lasts for.
Fingers crossed.
I tried to enter that special mode (recovery) but it just boots into the system! I have had many phones and got into their recoveries quite easily. However seems like I misunderstood the instructions here? Can someone explain me more in detail how to perform the graphic test?
TheArt. said:
Can someone explain me more in detail how to perform the graphic test?
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adb reboot recovery
Or
When poweron/reboot hold PowerBtn+VolUp until you see "no command" with green Android logo
In both method is switch from "no command" to menu by pressing PowerBtn+VolUp
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adb reboot recovery
Or
When poweron/reboot hold PowerBtn+VolUp until you see "no command" with green Android logo
In both method is switch from "no command" to menu by pressing PowerBtn+VolUp
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Eventually I did the "graphic test" which indeed performs just the animation as another user was saying, because WiFi issue has not improved.
What I was doing wrong when trying to access the recovery was simply not connecting the phone to a power source prior to pressing vol up and power.
Just picked a 7 plus a week back & loving the phone so far. Given it had 8.1 out of the box I went through the day 1 upgrades and had a few of these problems. Being a new phone, a factory reset post upgrade was no big deal (I keep everything backed up so it's rarely a big deal) and my wifi problems went away with it. I've found this with Android upgrades in the past. Hard for the Devs to treat every upgrade permutation given apps and time, but easy to test the clean slate, so more likely to be stable that way.
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bennetm3 said:
I have two Nokia 7+ phones, one works fine on Wifi the other refused to connect.
I did the graphics test as above and it now connects without any issues.
I will wait and see how long this 'fix' lasts for.
Fingers crossed.
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Any better now?? I'm getting the same wifi issue.
There is not any issue my is working there is a problem with nokia
When u try to enter yours SSID and password u will see an option advance click on it and role down and u will see one option hidden network no jus make it yes and there u go it will start working
Hi, just upgraded to the new one UI 3.0 and having a few issues . Tried to wipe cache partition, but when I hold down the volume+power button, the menu doesn't show up.
Has access to the system menu changed?
You have to connect your phone to pc or laptop to enter recovery mode.
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You have to connect your phone to pc or laptop to enter recovery mode.
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Thanks for the reply. I used to hold down vol + and power button to clear cache partition, doesn't that work with the one ui 3 anymore?
My google feed stops working on one ui 3.0. I have to restart phone in order for it to start working again with nova launcher.
rahulblue said:
Thanks for the reply. I used to hold down vol + and power button to clear cache partition, doesn't that work with the one ui 3 anymore?
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You have to do that but when phone is connected to laptop.
It's been posted elsewhere on the forum
You basically have to plug your headphones in
Yes head phones believe it or not
Don't have to be a pc or laptop
It will work
Eddie
Braggster said:
It's been posted elsewhere on the forum
You basically have to plug your headphones in
Yes head phones believe it or not
Don't have to be a pc or laptop
It will work
Eddie
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Thanks, found it! Strange they changed it, wonder what the benefit is.
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Thanks, found it! Strange they changed it, wonder what the benefit is.
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Wonder why you didn't give the guy a like. ?
I did now! New to this, so didn't spot that option. Thanks for pointing it out.
I can do it without a laptop or headphones, just power off the phone and then volume up and power, when the phone power up don't release the button yet until you see the android.
rahulblue said:
Hi, just upgraded to the new one UI 3.0 and having a few issues . Tried to wipe cache partition, but when I hold down the volume+power button, the menu doesn't show up.
Has access to the system menu changed?
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Was having same issue...connect phone via USB to computer or just plug in USB-C headphones... It work
I upgraded my dual sim to the latest and now the Dual sim implementation is all screwed up. I cannot see the sim1, sim2 in texting and also while calling now there is a pop up. Any help.