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If I restore all the settings labeled green I can't get a location fix with the Genie widget and I can't move apps to the SD card.
sinbot said:
If I restore all the settings labeled green I can't get a location fix with the Genie widget and I can't move apps to the SD card.
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What is it exactly that you want to restore??? Personally, I wouldn't (and didnt) restore ANYTHING from titanium. It takes like what 5 minutes to go through the settings menu and set stuff back up the way you had it?
Apps have to be coded to allow them to be moved to sdcard. It's up to the developers to add that option in. It's not because you are restoring stuff from titanium, but because you are trying to move something that doesn't have the ability to be moved yet.
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What is it exactly that you want to restore??? Personally, I wouldn't (and didnt) restore ANYTHING from titanium. It takes like what 5 minutes to go through the settings menu and set stuff back up the way you had it?
Apps have to be coded to allow them to be moved to sdcard. It's up to the developers to add that option in. It's not because you are restoring stuff from titanium, but because you are trying to move something that doesn't have the ability to be moved yet.
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You can force your phone to allow apps2sd with pm setInstallLocation=2
In anycase your response was not helpful but dismissive. My reasons to backup and restore are valid enough for me to ask and if you can't answer go find another post to respond to.
In any case I have by trial and error found that a number of settings restore just fine and I have put mot of my applications on the sdcard.
sinbot said:
You can force your phone to allow apps2sd with pm setInstallLocation=2
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Yes, I know all about this. Anything with a widget or service will not work, but will still goto SD (bad). And other apps may not work properly. YMMV, but personally I set that option on, moved a couple of big apps, tested them, then immediately turned it back off (pm setInstallLocation=0). I'm on my third wipe and things are running better then ever since doing it this way. I had apps that do not include a widget or service, were not protected, that should have run fine from there and did not.
sinbot said:
In anycase your response was not helpful but dismissive. My reasons to backup and restore are valid enough for me to ask and if you can't answer go find another post to respond to.
In any case I have by trial and error found that a number of settings restore just fine and I have put mot of my applications on the sdcard.
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I wasn't being "dismissive" by any means... I was simply curious as to what it was you wanted to restore as it helps to answer "what you can safely restore" if people know what it is that you want. My point about it taking 5 minutes was simply trying to point out you may actually save your self some time and frustration by doing it manually.
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I wasn't being "dismissive" by any means... I was simply curious as to what it was you wanted to restore as it helps to answer "what you can safely restore" if people know what it is that you want. My point about it taking 5 minutes was simply trying to point out you may actually save your self some time and frustration by doing it manually.
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Maybe you should read hat I wrote before just saying not to even try backing things up. Wow I wanted to keep my settings, text messages and call history and be able to toss my applications on the SD and get a location fix. Some setting carried over stops those from working and wanting to know what it is or why it is is a whole lot more intelligent than just throwing my hands up and saying "Well, I paid for an application I guess I shouldn't use it!"
This probably doesn't help but I personally don't like everything about titanium. It seems to restore too much. I still use it for apps but It's hard to identify what you are restoring when it comes to "data". mybackuppro does a better job of choosing what to back up and restored. very clear and concise, everything is labeled, (ie: sms, call log, mms, playlists, home screen icons etc etc). I know I know, its not help with titanium but maybe it'll help.
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Maybe you should read hat I wrote before just saying not to even try backing things up. Wow I wanted to keep my settings, text messages and call history and be able to toss my applications on the SD and get a location fix. Some setting carried over stops those from working and wanting to know what it is or why it is is a whole lot more intelligent than just throwing my hands up and saying "Well, I paid for an application I guess I shouldn't use it!"
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Okay pointless argument. Once again, I wasn't saying "dont even try!" I said "PERSONALLY, I didn't restore anything". That's because after my first install I did restore several things and it caused issues. I was giving you my personal advice on the matter. Sorry it didn't answer the question the way you wanted, but it wasn't by any means trying to put you or what you wanted to do down.
I also paid for titanium backup and use it and love it all the time. I think we are asking a bit much of it to backup stuff from a (assuming here) custom rom, then importing them onto a stock rom and have absolutely no issues.
Maybe I could have worded my initial response better, but it helps people to answer your questions if we know what you wanted to restore specifically rather then trying to answer what can and cannot be restored. Had you said how can I safely restore my texts, and call logs someone may have piped in and said "I restored X in titantium backup and had no issues!"
Again, wasn't flaming, telling you to give up, or anything. Only offering my personal experiences with this.
sinbot said:
If I restore all the settings labeled green I can't get a location fix with the Genie widget and I can't move apps to the SD card.
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polo79 said:
This probably doesn't help but I personally don't like everything about titanium. It seems to restore too much. I still use it for apps but It's hard to identify what you are restoring when it comes to "data". mybackuppro does a better job of choosing what to back up and restored. very clear and concise, everything is labeled, (ie: sms, call log, mms, playlists, home screen icons etc etc). I know I know, its not help with titanium but maybe it'll help.
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I agree with polo79. While Titanium is fantastic at restoring apps and their data, It is not very concise on what data is restored. IMO, the most useful feature Titanium offers is it's ability to replace the Market links to the restored apps. While what you want to do probably is possible using Titanium, MyBackup Pro makes it much more clear cut on what you're restoring.
As far as restoring apps go (and I have many of those), after much trial and error, what I did was restore as much as I could using InstallLocation 0 until I ran out of room. Then I set it to 2 and went through and moved what I thought safe to sd. Then went back and installed more using Titanium using 0 again...well, you get the procedure.
And enough bickering. Gimpsta was only trying to help, but maybe a "no reply" here would have been best.
Well I went through and my results are I can restore all applications and the following datasets without issue to location or installing to sd:
[ACCOUNTS] Account and Sync Settings 2.2 - check.
Application widgets - blanks out desktop but can get location lock.
[Bookmarks] Browser 2.2 - check
[Calendar] Calendar Storage 2.2 - check
[USER DICT] com.amdroid.providers.userdictionary 2.2 - check
[CONTACTS/CALLS] Contacts Storge 2.2 - Check
[SMS/MMS/APN] Dialer Storage 2.2 - check
I didn't try the rest because everything was working and I didn't need anything weird in the rest.
Hi, I'm testing froyo roms now, currently very pleased with performance
Tintanium backup is really a great app, I ditch all other backup programs after installing it.
I was able to restore to froyo, APNs, contacts, call history, wifi settings, sms.
cheers,
can somebody shed some light why i can't restore contacts from 2.1,
sms restored perfectly, but contacts say restored successful but i can't see them, only call log
tnx
don't know why, but here's how i got around it
can't tell you why, but i miight be able to show a way around it.
I had the same problem a couple of time. what i did is exporting my contacts to a "vcf"-file on sd card. after flashing the new rom i imported all contacts with now probs.
hope it will work for you to.
the tiny drawback is, you have to nandroid-backup your actual setup. restore the previous, export your contacts. restore the actual and import.
good luck
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anyone know what you need to backup when using titanium to back up my contacts ringtones i set for each contact?
Now that people have had the device for a few days, I was hoping their to headstart could help potential switchers and as the SR doesn't have it's own forum yet so I'm asking here.
Newbie alert!!!!
I am wondering how easy it will be to move from the Gs2 to the skyrocket? Basically any recommended ways of moving my apps, texts, pictures, etc to the SdCARD and back from the SdCard to the new phone? Contacts are synced with Google Contacts so no problems there, my main concern is with paid apps, I'd rather not pay for them again.
Can I back up apps via TiBU and restore them on the Skyrocket? Or can I just reinstall them on the new phone?
End of Newbie question!!!!
Paid apps are in your google account as well, you will be able to reinstall all your paid apps through the market (without repaying) by just signing in to your same google account.
The only thing you need to backup is your pictures/music.
Here's what I did to migrate to my Skyrocket from my Captivate:
*Duh Alert* Have your original phone rooted and Titanium Pro installed.
Original Phone
1. Backup APK & Data with Titanium.
2. Locate where backup directory is on your phone. Mine was \sdcard\TitaniumBackup
3. Mount original phone and copy backup directory to your computer.
New Hotness
1. Root that bad boy. Search the site, its here.
2. Install Titanium Pro from market.
3. Back up 1 app, pick something silly. That will create the backup directory.
4. Mount the new hotness and copy your saved directory from your computer to the Skyrocket.
5. Restore apps. I did one at a time cuz I didn't want everything installed on the new phone.
95% of the apps and data restored properly.
Simplistic, yes....but it works. Go forth and multiply.
If you want the smoothest experience on your Skyrocket, do NOT use a backup tool to bring over apps, just reinstall them from the Market.
Copying apps and app date with a tool like Titanium does and WILL cause some issues.
crawlgsx said:
If you want the smoothest experience on your Skyrocket, do NOT use a backup tool to bring over apps, just reinstall them from the Market.
Copying apps and app date with a tool like Titanium does and WILL cause some issues.
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To partially agree with you I tried using MyBackUp Pro and almost everything failed. That's what I deserve for buying that one first back in the day. BUT....Titanium worked great. All of my paid apps were as good as gold.
Plus, if you want your saved data, wouldn't you have to use a backup tool?
gheck911 said:
To partially agree with you I tried using MyBackUp Pro and almost everything failed. That's what I deserve for buying that one first back in the day. BUT....Titanium worked great. All of my paid apps were as good as gold.
Plus, if you want your saved data, wouldn't you have to use a backup tool?
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If your just trying to backup like game saves then sometimes. A lot of times that data can be backed up by just mounting your sdcard to your computer and copying the files. Some games do save the data in funny locations so you do need (easier) to use something like Titanium, but you are always better off starting from as scratch as possible to avoid issues later.
Moving an app to save you from entering your login info for example, is just a bad idea. Most apps have no real data to backup, simple 2 second settings etc....
crawlgsx said:
If you want the smoothest experience on your Skyrocket, do NOT use a backup tool to bring over apps, just reinstall them from the Market.
Copying apps and app date with a tool like Titanium does and WILL cause some issues.
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i have found that most issues with TiBu are do to you trying to restore System Information......i used tibu to restore my apps on the Skyrockert. i just picked APPS only with out system data.
worked fine i have not seen a hickup on any device or install after a flash of new Rom.
the2rrell said:
i have found that most issues with TiBu are do to you trying to restore System Information......i used tibu to restore my apps on the Skyrockert. i just picked APPS only with out system data.
worked fine i have not seen a hickup on any device or install after a flash of new Rom.
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TiBu works great, usually, for restoring NON-System apps and their data.
Avoid restoring system apps/data.
Also, if you do happen to run into a problem with a particular restored app, all you need to do is uninstall/reinstall it and then use TiBu to restore the "data only" for that app.
This has always worked for me.
y?
Its basically the same phone, screen tiny bit bigger and it edges r round, and the. 3 faster CPU is not noticeable, and if u don't live in the handful of citys that have lte network what's the point by the time LTE gets fully activated skyrocket will be old phone something way better out, now if u didn't have the gs2 already if say hell ya but since u do wasted money IMO
Hi xda,
Though my thread title may be a little vague and might supposedly be better asked on google or android per se, just patiently read along as I try to explain my dilemma in more detail.
For ICS users, we all know the convenience of the "backup & restore" feature. Everything from wifi passwords, contacts, and installed apps will be magically restored when you install a new firmware on your phone with a full data wipe. And for us flash junkies, that indeed is really convenient.
But even though I have come to love such feature, I've noticed a few quirks as I was using it over time. The backup manifest or shall I say, the list of backed up data gets cluttered as you continue to backup data over time. This leading to a point where my backup data is now so messed up, whenever it auto restores once again, I see previously uninstalled apps back again and duplicate contact entries. So messed up, that I've decided to stop using this much loved feature and just manually backup my contacts, and re-install apps.
So, I am looking for some solution that I might be somehow able to manually edit that current backed up list (over at google or wherever it's stored), and update which will be restored if ever I flash my phone again. Or wipe that list clean and overwrite it with my current phone state.
Sorry for the long post but I've done my googling and forum searching beforehand only to no avail.
You can forgo that feature entirely and use titanium backup instead, for backing up your personal app data...
Titanium acts a little twitchy when restoring system apps and data across roms with different bases...
Your best bet would be to backup your downloaded apps with titanium, backup contacts and msgs (and call logs) from other market apps (I use go backup)...
For bluetooth and wifi access points, I haven't found anything that is truly cross compatible among roms...so better of you just write it down somewhere and refer that later...
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I love the multi user support! Finally, i get my own space separate from my wife (and a lot less pink)!
I'm running the EOS version of 4.2.1 and its great with the HW acceleration!
After installation i proceeded down the standard restoration path, using titanium backup to restore my apps/data. Worked great, except for 1 app (Business Calendar). Would not restore in either batch mode or single mode.
Turns out, secondary users don't get root permission. So i decided to just download the app under my wife's account and go back after the fact to restore the data. But, this app does not exist under my profile.
Digging into the wtf, i discover that the entire user space is separated out for each user. Which makes sense..
So, the questions I have are....
How to I get an app to appear for all users?
Is this a cutting edge thing that titanium backup hasn't caught up to yet?
If it is safe to move the app into an all user space? If so, what is the best way of accomplishing this?
Or is this just one of those things where I should wisely start all over with the app installations to keep each user space separate?
nicholasb said:
I love the multi user support! Finally, i get my own space separate from my wife (and a lot less pink)!
I'm running the EOS version of 4.2.1 and its great with the HW acceleration!
After installation i proceeded down the standard restoration path, using titanium backup to restore my apps/data. Worked great, except for 1 app (Business Calendar). Would not restore in either batch mode or single mode.
Turns out, secondary users don't get root permission. So i decided to just download the app under my wife's account and go back after the fact to restore the data. But, this app does not exist under my profile.
Digging into the wtf, i discover that the entire user space is separated out for each user. Which makes sense..
So, the questions I have are....
How to I get an app to appear for all users?
Is this a cutting edge thing that titanium backup hasn't caught up to yet?
If it is safe to move the app into an all user space? If so, what is the best way of accomplishing this?
Or is this just one of those things where I should wisely start all over with the app installations to keep each user space separate?
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Can't post in dev section, so I have to ask here - does status bar work for you in landscape mode? Mine just won't appear with EOS4...
Having recently rooted my SGN10.1, I wanted to start trying out custom roms. However, before doing so, I felt that it is best to ensure that I have proper backup. Being a believer in redundancy, I not only wanted to backup using Titanium Pro, but I also wanted to use my original Mybackup Pro, as well.
Unfortunately, the Mybackup Pro seems to keep crashing when trying to backup data. It will hang on one of the early app program's data file, and then suddenly shut down by itself and reboot. When it comes up from the roboot, the wallpaper is replaced by a black screen. I then need to power down and restart to get the wallpaper back.
The problem does not seem to affect the backup of apps by themselves, just the data. Same issue when backing up apps+data or just data. Apps by themselves backup without a problem.
Initially I thought that it might be related to the particular app where it was crashing, which was the Allplay app. I applied free to the app (and any related files listed), and then the backup failed again on a later app, with the same result.
I uninstalled Mybackup Pro, rebooted, and then re-installed it again, as per the Rerware website recommendation, however the same problem keeps happening.
Is this a root related problem or did I cause another problem somewhere else for which I may be unaware.
Any advise will be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
'Bean
I use Carbon back up and like it. You don't have to be rooted.
mke1973 said:
I use Carbon back up and like it. You don't have to be rooted.
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Thank you for the reply. I was using MyBackup Pro well before rooting and I never had a problem with it. I am trying to determine if perhaps something that I did caused the problem or if it is related to the backup app itself not playing well with the root process from CWM, Odin, etc.
I am not familiar with Carbon. Is that related to Carbonite? Also, will it backup all of the things that Titanium is known to backup? Again, I was looking primarily for redundancy, but I did not anticipate that a well known backup program would encounter a problem.
bookbean said:
Having recently rooted my SGN10.1, I wanted to start trying out custom roms. However, before doing so, I felt that it is best to ensure that I have proper backup. Being a believer in redundancy, I not only wanted to backup using Titanium Pro, but I also wanted to use my original Mybackup Pro, as well.
Unfortunately, the Mybackup Pro seems to keep crashing when trying to backup data. It will hang on one of the early app program's data file, and then suddenly shut down by itself and reboot. When it comes up from the roboot, the wallpaper is replaced by a black screen. I then need to power down and restart to get the wallpaper back.
The problem does not seem to affect the backup of apps by themselves, just the data. Same issue when backing up apps+data or just data. Apps by themselves backup without a problem.
Initially I thought that it might be related to the particular app where it was crashing, which was the Allplay app. I applied free to the app (and any related files listed), and then the backup failed again on a later app, with the same result.
I uninstalled Mybackup Pro, rebooted, and then re-installed it again, as per the Rerware website recommendation, however the same problem keeps happening.
Is this a root related problem or did I cause another problem somewhere else for which I may be unaware.
Any advise will be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
'Bean
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I have a rooted GNote 10.1 with a stock ROM and I had exactly the same problem with MyBackup Pro (MBP).
I solved it with these steps:
1) I enabled the "Use BusyBox" option in MBP's settings. After that MBP didn't crash anymore, the backup process was really fast (too fast) and reported the successful backup of the apps' data.
Anyway, after checking the backup files I saw that the apps folders were empty (!).
2) I thought that the problem could then be with my tablet not having the BusyBox tools (or not having the right tools). So I downloaded from Google Play the app "BusyBox for Android" (by Stephen (Stericson)) and installed the BusyBox package through the app "smart install" option. No apparent change. Then I re-installed it through the "normal install" option.
Finally, after this second step, I got what seems a full backup. In fact I've checked that the backup size of the MBP AppsMedia_folder (backup of apps' data only) is 110MB whilst the apps' data backup made with Carbon is about the same size (if zipped): 116MB.
I wrote to MBP's developer asking about this problem, but didn't receive a clear answer.
Last words I got from him are:
This is an isolated case, that I am thinking is an environmental issue, this is not a common occurrence we ever get reports about.
I see from the OP that maybe the problem is less uncommon than it's thought to be.
Anyway, apart from MBP I also used Carbon to be sure...
BusyBox works indeed
sphere314 said:
I have a rooted GNote 10.1 with a stock ROM and I had exactly the same problem with MyBackup Pro (MBP).
I solved it with these steps:
2) I thought that the problem could then be with my tablet not having the BusyBox tools (or not having the right tools). So I downloaded from Google Play the app "BusyBox for Android" (by Stephen (Stericson)) and installed the BusyBox package through the app "smart install" option. No apparent change. Then I re-installed it through the "normal install" option.
Finally, after this second step, I got what seems a full backup. In fact I've checked that the backup size of the MBP AppsMedia_folder (backup of apps' data only) is 110MB whilst the apps' data backup made with Carbon is about the same size (if zipped): 116MB.
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I can confirm this behaviour. I had troubles with MPB too (FAE F1, Android 4.1.2). After reading above post, I installed BusyBox normally, and got my first backup (apk+data) in ages, however MBP stops after about 4/5th of my apps with the "out of space message", but lets me backup the remaining apps on the same SD without any problems.. I'll contact the developers about this.
Thanks sphere314!