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I've been having terrible issues with my charge, even on stock which include:
Dropping data connections (On 4g and 3g)
Corrupting SD cards
Random restarts
Slow transitions
Battery gets extremely hot
HDMI issues
GPS takes 10 minutes to lock on
Bluetooth issues
Recieveing text messages late
Etc
I'm going to call customer support tomorrow and attempt to get a droid bionic instead of a replacement droid charge. I'll keep everyone posted in case it works so you guys can hop over to the bionic without extending your contract or paying $700 for the next best phone.
UPDATE: Called and they said they'd send me one last charge and if this one is defective then they will be able to give me another brand device. Lets just hope they don't want to give me a thunderbolt instead of a bionic...
lol good luck
Don't see this happening. At most they might offer you a Revolution or Thunderbolt. But not the new flagship 4G phone.
This isn't going to happen. The only way Verizon will swap your phone out for another model is if there is a known, repeatable, widespread problem with the phone that can't be fixed with a near-term software update (ala the Facsinate). Or, you can go through a series of 4 or 5 refurbs, then another brand new Charge, and maintain the whole time you are having the same problems. At that point they realize you aren't going to give up, and they will offer you a comparable phone. Which would be the DX2, INC2, or maybe the Revolution.
The problems you are listing with your phone aren't common for most Charge owners. So, you'll have to take the "jerky customer" route to get something else.
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Don't see this happening. At most they might offer you a Revolution or Thunderbolt. But not the new flagship 4G phone.
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That's what I thought when I called to get a replacement phone for my fascinate, but I got the flagship device at the time. That may be because they're both by samsung, but we'll just have to wait and see.
I wish you all the luck in the world, but as previously noted the problems you listed are not common problems (I haven't had any of them) so I would be shocked if you get VZ to give you the Bionic.
I was waiting for months on the Bionic to replace my Liberty ROM DroidX, but after researching it further I finally decided I would rather have the Charge than the Bionic.
~John
The Bionic has a nice chipset; the dual-core & 4g is nice but I'll pass on that phone. Motorola is known for having terrible cameras on their phones & their infamous locked bootloaders. Also, no Samoled+ is a deal breaker. NEXT.
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That's what I thought when I called to get a replacement phone for my fascinate, but I got the flagship device at the time. That may be because they're both by samsung, but we'll just have to wait and see.
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Samsung for Samsung was the reason there. The Charge has nowhere near as big of a problem as the fascinate did.
I've had my sd wiped mysteriously twice now on my Charge. But i'm using my Fascinate sd, because vzw refused to give me the 32gb sd.
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That's what I thought when I called to get a replacement phone for my fascinate, but I got the flagship device at the time. That may be because they're both by samsung, but we'll just have to wait and see.
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The reason you got the Charge for the Fascinate was that at the time, there was no known fix for the missed/dropped call problem, and the only update for it was still untested when they were doing the swaps. There was a period of 1-2 weeks where they were replacing Fascinates, and promptly stopped once ED05 was slated for OTA release.
Eris _2.1_2010 said:
I've had my sd wiped mysteriously twice now on my Charge. But i'm using my Fascinate sd, because vzw refused to give me the 32gb sd.
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was the charge a replacement?
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This.
Have fun trying.
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Guys, it will all be fixed with the update for the charge. The charge is screaming fast for downloads compared to the Bionic. Bionic is mearly a droid x supped up!
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Guys, it will all be fixed with the update for the charge. The charge is screaming fast for downloads compared to the Bionic. Bionic is mearly a droid x supped up!
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Please explain to me why the Charge would be any faster than the Bionic for download speeds? I would really like to hear this. Also, how in the hell do you know this fallacy?
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Please explain to me why the Charge would be any faster than the Bionic for download speeds? I would really like to hear this.
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Download speeds wont have a noticeable difference but browsing the internet on a dual core PHONE will be faster, and its on the 4g network. Doesn't get any better
But I to have the same connection issue problems. They sent two replacements but I sent both back because they did the same ****. My original charge hasn't acted up but when it does I'm gonna tell them instead of sending a refurb of the charge send a refurb of the Bionic. I have had this issue since I bought the phone. Verizon does treat their loyal customers good I can tell you that.
I wish you all the luck. Iff it happens, let me know, because some days I want to throw my phone.
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jager420 said:
My original charge hasn't acted up but when it does I'm gonna tell them instead of sending a refurb of the charge send a refurb of the Bionic. I have had this issue since I bought the phone. Verizon does treat their loyal customers good I can tell you that.
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I'm going to call Verizon and tell them to send me a refurb Galaxy Tab. And one of those touch-screen kiosks from their retail stores. And I'd like that "Can you hear me now" guy to show up for my daughter's birthday.
I'm a loyal customer.
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I've been having terrible issues with my charge, even on stock which include:
Dropping data connections (On 4g and 3g)
Corrupting SD cards
Random restarts
Slow transitions
Battery gets extremely hot
HDMI issues
GPS takes 10 minutes to lock on
Bluetooth issues
Recieveing text messages late
Etc
I'm going to call customer support tomorrow and attempt to get a droid bionic instead of a replacement droid charge. I'll keep everyone posted in case it works so you guys can hop over to the bionic without extending your contract or paying $700 for the next best phone.
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I have the same problems, gps takes ridiculously long to lock up, I'm sure motorola radios handle gps way better!
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was the charge a replacement?
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Yes it is my third one to be exact. First one had USB connection issues and the second one had random reboots. One I have now seems pretty solid so far.
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jager420 said:
Download speeds wont have a noticeable difference but browsing the internet on a dual core PHONE will be faster, and its on the 4g network. Doesn't get any better
But I to have the same connection issue problems. They sent two replacements but I sent both back because they did the same ****. My original charge hasn't acted up but when it does I'm gonna tell them instead of sending a refurb of the charge send a refurb of the Bionic. I have had this issue since I bought the phone. Verizon does treat their loyal customers good I can tell you that.
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Right, but the guy I quoted is claiming the download speeds would be faster on the Charge than the Bionic.
I am asking because I got the 4.0.4 update for my razr and now flash is dead. It just won't work on stock and I don't want to flash a rom on it, because I have had hardware issues with it in the past.
After being on the phone with them for 2-2.5 hours. They said I could get a HTC Rezound, but not a S3. I don't really buy this can't have a S3 just because I got my phone last year crap. They are both 199 2 year and 599 Full Retail. ( That's a rip off for the razr, but I am going to try and use this if I can because I have all ways like samsung better.
If they are willing to give me a Rezound do you think I can/should push for a S3.
I am really not a HTC fan and love my S2, best phone EVER. I would like to know if this can be done or if this more like to end in epic fail trying to swap a razr for a S3.
Note's I have tried:
1) About 4-5 web browsers ( Fire fox, Dolphin, sky fire, stock Browser and Chrome.)
2) Factory reset
3) HTML 5 ( It work's poorly to say the lest when I can find it that is.)
4) Using app's for every thing and it feels like a iphone. ( I did not buy a phone like this so I would need app's that are not as good as the web site.)
Update: Got them to let me do the "impossible" yet again and swap a razr for S3.
I told them I would not take a phone with a lot less battery life and would flat out not take the nexus. I also told them that your online store say's it works with flash still and list ICS on there too. Well after I went into that, they put me on hold for a bit and bam I get a 16GB S3 shipping right to my house with a order # in a text msg to my razr. now waiting for the e-mail.
Update2: Got the shipping e-mail and will now be able to track the phone in till it's on my door step. Oh yea
Update4: Got the phone. OH YEA
Battery still not here yet.
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I am asking because I got the 4.0.4 update for my razr and now flash is dead. It just won't work on stock and I don't want to flash a rom on it, because I have had hardware issues with it in the past.
After being on the phone with them for 2-2.5 hours. They said I could get a HTC Rezound, but not a S3. I don't really buy this can't have a S3 just because I got my phone last year. They are both 199 2 year and 599 Full Retail. ( That's a rip off for the razr, but I am going to try and use this if I can because I have all ways like samsung better.
So does flash work and if so do you think I should push for a S3.
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Flash works on the native browser for the S3.
Ok just wanted to be sure.
Edit: does it come with flash and if not can you download it from the play store or side load it?
thanks
Flash works fine. Flash doesn't work in chrome on any phone. A lot of sites are transitioning to HTML5 but compliance is very spotty, at best.
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Yes, it does.
I get a big kick out of demonstrating this regularly to all the iphone users I work with.......
I know it does not work on chrome, but 3 techs working for verizon told me to try that. +100000000000000000 to the HTML 5 comment. That's why losing flash on my razr sucked so much and that I would not just lie down on this issue. Oh and even when I can find HTML 5.... It does not work/ very "laggy" on my razr. That update has really messed the phone up.
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I know it does not work on chrome, but 3 techs working for verizon told me to try that. +100000000000000000 to the HTML 5 comment. That's why losing flash on my razr sucked so much and that I would not just lie down on this issue. Oh and even when I can find HTML 5.... It does not work/ very "laggy" on my razr. That update has really messed the phone up.
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Can you use Dolphin HD on your phone? I think it supports Flash natively, if I'm not mistaken. Nice browser too.
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That will not work, becuase the Razr OS it's self is the issue. It's doomed because motorola is crap. I with them for about over a hour and verizon for 2-2.5 hours. I tryed Dolphin, fire fox, Chorome. (Becuase they told me too) Then they acted like this was OK. BS verizon, BS. Flash does not end intill JB NOT ICS you ********.
I have to take the HTC or call back and try for a S3.
Updating your phone is supposed to add features, not remove them. WTF is Verizon and Motorola thinking? Why doesn't it support flash anymore? I'm with you.. what a bunch of assholes!
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Updating your phone is supposed to add features, not remove them. WTF is Verizon and Motorola thinking? Why doesn't it support flash anymore? I'm with you.. what a bunch of assholes!
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They try real hard to say it's google ICS does not work with flash and that flash did it, but I got them real good one that one( Called them out BIG time on this BS). This ICS has broke more than just flash, call's sound like trash now, youtube APP look's like 240p on HQ and more.
Glad your with me, so are two store reps. I think tomorrow I will call again and tell them I want the S3 and I won't take a phone way less battery life (The HTC phone) or else... court time for braking a feature that I got the phone for. I know flash won't live forever, but this is BS.
I would have called today, but I did not really have the time.
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They try real hard to say it's google ICS does not work with flash and that flash did it, but I got them real good one that one( Called them out BIG time on this BS). This ICS has broke more than just flash, call's sound like trash now, youtube APP look's like 240p on HQ and more.
Glad your with me, so are two store reps. I think tomorrow I will call again and tell them I want the S3 and I won't take a phone way less battery life (The HTC phone) or else... court time for braking a feature that I got the phone for. I know flash won't live forever, but this is BS.
I would have called today, but I did not really have the time.
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You should get some of your fellow RAZR users to file BBB complaints.
Better fire some off to the FCC as well. Seriously.
If we don't stand up to Verizon, soon, it will be too late. That whole "speak now or forever hold your peace" thing.
They take our apps, they take our options and then they want to take more money. **** them.
What is it in the razr's software that is crippling flash. If you have flash player installed and a browser that supports it I don't know why it wouldn't work. Flash worked fine on eclair, froyo, gingerbread, ice cream sandwich and jelly bean on my old evo 4g...It worked fine on froyo &gb my my girlfriends old DROID 2 and it works like a champ on the s3. I just don't see how it can be dependant on anything other than the browser and flash player... Am I missing something?
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They don't seem to give a flying **** and every time some one says any thing all the fan boy's kill it any way they can. My best bet is to force them to give me a S3 vs them fixing a update. I know I am never buying a droid branded phone ever again, that's for sure. You should herd the a-holes, talking like braking crap is ok, becuase flash is ending some time, but NOT now. You lazy BLEEPING crap holes.
P.S I don't know why it does not work too, the OS is a big mess with this update so that's likely why. Yes it is 100% stock by the way
Edit: can any one think of a better tile? thanks
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I am asking because I got the 4.0.4 update for my razr and now flash is dead. It just won't work on stock and I don't want to flash a rom on it, because I have had hardware issues with it in the past.
After being on the phone with them for 2-2.5 hours. They said I could get a HTC Rezound, but not a S3. I don't really buy this can't have a S3 just because I got my phone last year crap. They are both 199 2 year and 599 Full Retail. ( That's a rip off for the razr, but I am going to try and use this if I can because I have all ways like samsung better.
If they are willing to give me a Rezound do you think I can/should push for a S3.
I am really not a HTC fan and love my S2, best phone EVER. I would like to know if this can be done or if this more like to end in epic fail trying to swap a razr for a S3.
Note's I have tried:
1) About 4-5 web browsers ( Fire fox, Dolphin, sky fire, stock Browser and Chrome.)
2) Factory reset
3) HTML 5 ( It work's poorly to say the lest when I can find it that is.)
4) Using app's for every thing and it feels like a iphone. ( I did not buy a phone like this so I would need app's that are not as good as the web site.)
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whichever way you go it wont matter once your device gets to Jelly Bean... Flash is not on Jelly Bean at all unless you force it and even then it may not work.
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whichever way you go it wont matter once your device gets to Jelly Bean... Flash is not on Jelly Bean at all unless you force it and even then it may not work.
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Which, if all other Motorola's are any indication, won't see JB at all as Verizon will soon EOL the device and its encrypted boot loader, well, need I say more?
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It's their fault you became dissatisfied with the phone through the bull**** updates. Argue for the S3, it's the same price. Back when I cracked the screen on my OG Droid, I argued with Asurion and sure enough they sent me a brand new Droid 2 (due to them not making OG Droids anymore). Then when the Droid 2's power button gave out, I called up VZW and sure enough, after a good amount of hassle they sent me a brand new Droid 2 Global. I've only had my contract for ~2 years, and in that time I have had 4 brand new phones and have only paid for 2 (well, 3 if you count the insurance deductible, even then $90 was less than half of the then-current price for D2Gs).
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It's their fault you became dissatisfied with the phone through the bull**** updates. Argue for the S3, it's the same price. Back when I cracked the screen on my OG Droid, I argued with Asurion and sure enough they sent me a brand new Droid 2 (due to them not making OG Droids anymore). Then when the Droid 2's power button gave out, I called up VZW and sure enough, after a good amount of hassle they sent me a brand new Droid 2 Global. I've only had my contract for ~2 years, and in that time I have had 4 brand new phones and have only paid for 2 (well, 3 if you count the insurance deductible, even then $90 was less than half of the then-current price for D2Gs).
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That's what I think too and I got verizon to see it my way. I got a text with order #, but not the e-mail yet. It was "impossible" due to limited stock and only S3 owner's could get a phone swap. I called bull on that one and would not take a lesser phone for there miss take not mine. This will be my 3rd phone and I have only paid for the first one that messed up and had to be replaced for over heating and data issues.
So now I will soon be joining you guys.
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That's what I think too and I got verizon to see it my way. I got a text with order #, but not the e-mail yet. It was "impossible" due to limited stock and only S3 owner's could get a phone swap. I called bull on that one and would not take a lesser phone for there miss take not mine. This will be my 3rd phone and I have only paid for the first one that messed up and had to be replaced for over heating and data issues.
So now I will soon be joining you guys.
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Can you pm more info on how you did this? I have had 15 RAZR/RAZR maxx replacements and they'll give me any phone I want, besides the S3, so if you managed to do it, I want to be able too as well! Any help would be greatly appreciated man!
Sent from my Maxxed Out Razr!
4ktvs said:
That's what I think too and I got verizon to see it my way. I got a text with order #, but not the e-mail yet. It was "impossible" due to limited stock and only S3 owner's could get a phone swap. I called bull on that one and would not take a lesser phone for there miss take not mine. This will be my 3rd phone and I have only paid for the first one that messed up and had to be replaced for over heating and data issues.
So now I will soon be joining you guys.
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:good: Congratulations!
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Can you pm more info on how you did this? I have had 15 RAZR/RAZR maxx replacements and they'll give me any phone I want, besides the S3, so if you managed to do it, I want to be able too as well! Any help would be greatly appreciated man!
Sent from my Maxxed Out Razr!
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**** man.. 15? ****!
ancashion said:
:good: Congratulations!
Thanks
**** man.. 15? ****!
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Can you pm more info on how you did this? I have had 15 RAZR/RAZR maxx replacements and they'll give me any phone I want, besides the S3, so if you managed to do it, I want to be able too as well! Any help would be greatly appreciated man!
Sent from my Maxxed Out Razr!
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Well in your case they should let you do it.
You should tell them that you want a S3 and you will not take less due to all of that you have had to deal with. If that does not work then tell them you will go to the BBB and the FCC and why you won't take the phones they want to give you.
I have had some issues with the razr's, but 15 is messed up and I hope you can get it fixed.
How many of you would take the maxx hd as a replacement for your s3...this is the offer verizon gave me due to poor reception
Sent from a unlocked ad cocked GSIII...........
never in a BILLON years would I take it. unlocked bootloader man, that should be enough of a reason to stay.
I cant send text nessages with 1 or 2 bars of signal...I want a note 2, but I fear that will still be an issue. My htc and motorola phones work flawlessly
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I cant send text nessages with 1 or 2 bars of signal...I want a note 2, but I fear that will still be an issue. My htc and motorola phones work flawlessly
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Dealing with the same things.. I don't want to go to a phone that has a boot loaded that might NEVER be unlocked... Plus I played with the Max HD and it seem to have lag in areas where my S3 doesn't..
i honestly would consider it, but probably not.
Are u going for it?
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i honestly would consider it, but probably not.
Are u going for it?
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I don't think so.. They look at time device was released to consider it comparison and that's not fair..
Its a no go for me buddy. The locked bootloader is a dealbreaker.
Even if it gets unlocked(maybe it already is). In the past MOTO has tried very hard to prevent custom Roms from being installed (see DroidX & Bionic). Which makes MOTO phones very unattractive to the Devs
If reception is really a problem for you see if they'll let you go with something else, maybe the DROID DNA by HTC.
Conversely, as long a your bootloader is going to be locked you could always give the Iphone5 a go. I know, I know blasphemy, but i'm sure IOS6 is better than MOTO blur.
Please let us know what you decide
Janker5050 said:
How many of you would take the maxx hd as a replacement for your s3...this is the offer verizon gave me due to poor reception
Sent from a unlocked ad cocked GSIII...........
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I would take precisely nothing over the GS3 at this point, there is no better phone out there IMO. I have and still use quite a few different devices (I have to for work).
It is true however that Samsung does get slightly worse reception than some of the other manufacturers. My HTC and Motorola phones got 3G reception in a few areas in which I don't get reception with the GS3 (there are very few of these area's though). To this point, it has caused me no concern whatsoever.
4G reception actually seems to be a bit better on the SG3 though, certainly my speeds are better.
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Its a no go for me buddy. The locked bootloader is a dealbreaker.
Even if it gets unlocked(maybe it already is). In the past MOTO has tried very hard to prevent custom Roms from being installed (see DroidX & Bionic). Which makes MOTO phones very unattractive to the Devs
If reception is really a problem for you see if they'll let you go with something else, maybe the DROID DNA by HTC.
Conversely, as long a your bootloader is going to be locked you could always give the Iphone5 a go. I know, I know blasphemy, but i'm sure IOS6 is better than MOTO blur.
Please let us know what you decide
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"Conversely, as long a your bootloader is going to be locked you could always give the Iphone5 a go." - NOW THIS WAS A PRICELESS STATEMENT!!!
i would not take that offer....here is my experience long story short....i had the s3, wife took it, i used her upgrade and got the hd maxx, returned it and now im on the s3 again...reasons being the camera is absolutely terrible and you loose a lot of screen real estate with those on screen buttons. i was like where is the rest of my screen? Id suggest staying with the s3 and wait for software update or try one of the leaks on here.
That depends on what you want to be able to do with your phone. If you need the reception what choice do you really have? Have them trade you out with a Droid DNA!
What setup are you running now on your S3? Have you tried the jellybean leak radios? They seem to do better at holding signals then the ICS radios. You dont have to be rooted or unlocked to flash a new radio.
Janker5050 said:
How many of you would take the maxx hd as a replacement for your s3...this is the offer verizon gave me due to poor reception
Sent from a unlocked ad cocked GSIII...........
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I would say just replace it with another, working SGS3! Obviously yours is defective. You do not have to change brands, I don't think you will find a better phone than what you already have. You just need a working one! It is not a SGS3 problem, but just your unit.
I odined th k3 leak so im on k3 rpm and modem.... Its better than ics.. But not much... They wouldnt give me a note 2 because they think it will be the same issue.... The dna is to new.. They have cln replacements... So thats why they offered me the maxx hd.... The white one is sexy.. Im gonna let them sh ip it and try it out for a day... If no major improvment it wilbe going back and ill press for a note 2....
Sent from a unlocked and cocked GSIII...........
There is a problem with their radios and samsung and verizon is aware of it.. The best recption i got was on the k3 leak..and im still having constant 4g drops... and my source in verizon devolpment says k3 is the ota.. Im gonna have them ship the white maxx hd try it for a day and if it aint worth it to me. Ill send it back and press the note 2
Sent from a unlocked and cocked GSIII...........
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That depends on what you want to be able to do with your phone. If you need the reception what choice do you really have? Have them trade you out with a Droid DNA!
What setup are you running now on your S3? Have you tried the jellybean leak radios? They seem to do better at holding signals then the ICS radios. You dont have to be rooted or unlocked to flash a new radio.
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I would trade it for a DNA as well, but it would be a pain because it has not been out 30 days yet. I know this because of my Droid Razr to S3 swap.
I would not ever get a Razr again due to issues like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDxJoGv3FLA
I wouldn't get the DNA. I had it for a week and took it back. I love the gs3. The DNA is a good device bit the lack of an SD card slot sucks. There are a lot of apps that aren't compatible with it right now but I know that's due to to the screen resolution but I'm not patient enough to sit around and wait for support to be added. The camera quality compared to the gs3 isn't as good in my opinion. The battery life isn't bad but the gs3 is much better and you have the option to at least get a bigger battery if you need it. The on screen menu button drove me crazy although you can fix that problem by unlocking and flashing a custom ROM. All in all i would stick with the galaxy s3 much better phone in my opinion.
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Its a no go for me buddy. The locked bootloader is a dealbreaker.
Even if it gets unlocked(maybe it already is). In the past MOTO has tried very hard to prevent custom Roms from being installed (see DroidX & Bionic). Which makes MOTO phones very unattractive to the Devs
If reception is really a problem for you see if they'll let you go with something else, maybe the DROID DNA by HTC.
Conversely, as long a your bootloader is going to be locked you could always give the Iphone5 a go. I know, I know blasphemy, but i'm sure IOS6 is better than MOTO blur.
Please let us know what you decide
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Don't think I can agree that ios is better than motoblur... The new blur is as close to aosp as any of the current skinned Os.
That being said the real question is do you even care about unlocked bootloader? Does it really matter to you?
Maxx=better reception(based on moto typical performance in the wireless area) and better battery.
Gs3=more open platform. Camera is better than moto.
There are plenty more but if you don't care about unlocked bootloader and signal is a priority, get the maxx. My wife has a gs3 and works in a terrible signal area. My rezound gets better signal in her area. But she loves her gs3 so much she won't get another phone. No concern for bootloader to her. She loved her old spring gs2.
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There is a problem with their radios and samsung and verizon is aware of it.. The best recption i got was on the k3 leak..and im still having constant 4g drops... and my source in verizon devolpment says k3 is the ota.. Im gonna have them ship the white maxx hd try it for a day and if it aint worth it to me. Ill send it back and press the note 2
Sent from a unlocked and cocked GSIII...........
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Well I can give my opinion since I'm on the RAZR maxx HD, the device is well built and cool looking. It is smaller on the screen size but it feels more comfortable for me, my girlfriend had the gs3 and the RAZR feels more better in the hands. Also you can if the battery is conditioned, get 7 hours of on screen time with 4G. That is what I have got your looking at 6-7 hours on screen with 4g and more then a day before the phone needs to be charged. Also the RAZR has a more stock jellybean look instead of being heavily themed like touch wiz. The signal is indeed strong with faster speeds, just have to test for yourself. Hope all goes well with the RAZR and your signal issues get fixed.
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magneticzero said:
I cant send text nessages with 1 or 2 bars of signal...I want a note 2, but I fear that will still be an issue. My htc and motorola phones work flawlessly
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The Note 2 is the best device Samsung has built to date for signal!!! The 3g radio is also far superior to the s3....I have not had one data drop on my Note 2 in areas where I normally would get them on my s3...not to mention I also get 7hrs of screen on time with 45-50hrs of battery life between charges. The s3 is a solid phone and I never had any trouble with signal except when it switched to 3g in fringe coverage areas...
New Moto devices are solid -- locked BL or not. The newest skin IS as close to AOSP as you can get, as said above.
Additionally, the post that read "known radio problems" are just silly to me. People often generalize an entire launch of a device with their issue. My reception is wonderful. I'd say it's more an isolated, local issue with many of you. I've owned about every top tier device of the last year and I can honestly say my S3 is one of the best. My bionic was horrible and some of my Nexi were great. Lol. Plural
Anyways, that wouldn't be a bad replacement IMO, but I'd shoot for a Note 2. That thing is a tank and getting a lot of love.
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Hey guys. Just got this phone yesterday. Rooted and unlocked the bootloader last night. Love the phone! I wake up this morning to an OTA update request. I haven't installed any recovery yet. I'm on a 926 and the phone is running 4.1.2.... Honestly, I haven't figured out how to install a recovery yet. I don't want to brick this thing on day 2. I've done quite a bit of stuff and I realize now I need to get more educated before I screw something up. Heck I haven't even taken the time to understand the difference between the 925 and 926. So will it hurt anything taking the OTA?
It's not worth it to take it. Better off going with a custom rom.
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So I guess I need to work on installing a custom recovery.. Just curious, what is wrong with the OTA update?
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So I guess I need to work on installing a custom recovery.. Just curious, what is wrong with the OTA update?
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The OTA disables the hack that allows you to unlock the bootloader, but from everything I read if you have already unlocked the bootloader then you have nothing to worry about. It is still recommended to use a root keeper before taking the OTA update. The big advantage of the OTA is update radio drivers (better GPS, etc.)
OK, so, I'm rooted, unlocked, have rootkeeper installed and enabled, made a backup. If I take the OTA, can I get back to where I am now with my phone. I looked at each of the roms and they look OK.. Kinda happy with stock right now...
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OK, so, I'm rooted, unlocked, have rootkeeper installed and enabled, made a backup. If I take the OTA, can I get back to where I am now with my phone. I looked at each of the roms and they look OK.. Kinda happy with stock right now...
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The stock is surprisingly okay from Motorola (once you freeze the Verizon bloatware), but I really enjoy having 4.2.2 (dashclock widget alone makes it worth the upgrade), customizable lockscreen (I was using WidgetLocker but it's never as smooth as built in), and the phablet UI with the quick settings panel. Have I tempted you enough to try a ROM? Also, stock icons and not the ugly Moto icons!
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The stock is surprisingly okay from Motorola (once you freeze the Verizon bloatware), but I really enjoy having 4.2.2 (dashclock widget alone makes it worth the upgrade), customizable lockscreen (I was using WidgetLocker but it's never as smooth as built in), and the phablet UI with the quick settings panel. Have I tempted you enough to try a ROM? Also, stock icons and not the ugly Moto icons!
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care to save me some time and let me know which is your favorite ROM so far? I'll end up trying a few just curious
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care to save me some time and let me know which is your favorite ROM so far? I'll end up trying a few just curious
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I've really only spent time with CM10.1 and have been very happy... a friend of mine has been going through the ROMs and he was excited about AOKP but now he's switching to Liquid can't remember why, some problems. From what I understand the CM ROM is likely to become official and that would be great so you can get the advantages of a fairly large eco system and constant development. Feel free to play around and try a ROM with halo (Pacman, Xenon, and some others seem to have it integrated) it looks really cool, but I'm not sure I would use it all the time.
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So on Sunday, I made the mistake of "checking" to see if there was software update. There was. I did not want to update the phone, because I knew there was a good chance there was a root and unlock method out there for the current software version and wanted to investigate further. My only option was to "download now" or "download later" 12 hours.
12 hours came and went and I did not have the option to stop it. So I put it in WiFi mode and connected it to one of my WAPs that doesn't have internet access, which put a stop to the download. I did find a root/unlock method and went forward with it. Then the next question, what will happen when the download completes?
After rooting/unlocking the phone, I let the download complete, hoping that I didn't have to apply it. I got the option to postpone it once, but then it basically forced me. BegrudgingIy, I let it go before I could figure out a suitable root-keeper. Let me know what you use if you take the OTA and manage to keep root.
When it came back up after applying the patch, it seems I no longer have root access, but at least I have an unlocked bootloader so I can push ROMs if I want. I'm sure it will only be a matter of time before Dan Rosenberg figures out a way around the new OTA patches. He has a reputation around here of being a Android ninja!
Can you get a custom recovery installed? You could flash a super user zip then.
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So on Sunday, I made the mistake of "checking" to see if there was software update. There was. I did not want to update the phone, because I knew there was a good chance there was a root and unlock method out there for the current software version and wanted to investigate further. My only option was to "download now" or "download later" 12 hours.
12 hours came and went and I did not have the option to stop it. So I put it in WiFi mode and connected it to one of my WAPs that doesn't have internet access, which put a stop to the download. I did find a root/unlock method and went forward with it. Then the next question, what will happen when the download completes?
After rooting/unlocking the phone, I let the download complete, hoping that I didn't have to apply it. I got the option to postpone it once, but then it basically forced me. BegrudgingIy, I let it go before I could figure out a suitable root-keeper. Let me know what you use if you take the OTA and manage to keep root.
When it came back up after applying the patch, it seems I no longer have root access, but at least I have an unlocked bootloader so I can push ROMs if I want. I'm sure it will only be a matter of time before Dan Rosenberg figures out a way around the new OTA patches. He has a reputation around here of being a Android ninja!
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If you flash a custom recovery through fastboot, you can then flash a super user zip using the custom recovery. No need to wait for a hack to the ota.
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With an unlocked boot loader you have a lot of options, way to get the update from applying!
The craziest thing is that I'm really enjoying stock on the moto. Guys I have run every rom in the business. I've had the OG, the Droid X, NeXuS and a Razr, and now finally the RAZR HD.. I must say, I have had no lag, great connection and I've yet to find anything the phone has let me down on... I'm confused as to why this phone hasn't taken off!.. Have I forgotten to mention tha ti has an unlocked bootloader? Whats the deal?? I have not taken the OTA but I have gotten a message about it every 12 hours.. I know there is a way you can RSD back to the stock if you want it erikoink..
I may take the OTA.. If its better than this Stock Rom.. I'd be crazy not to
How do you like it erikoink????
I took the update without unrooting and used voodoo to restore it. I also had to install superuser then uninstalled it and supersu worked as normal.
No big changes with the update. The messages app doesn't display an incorrect unread message count which is nice.
I was a crack flasher with the gnex. But like you said, the phone just works. The only reason I unlocked my bootloader and rooted was to tinker with display resolution for an atrix lapdock.
I also don't know why the phone hasn't taken off. The lack of cases is irritating but I deal with it.
Been using my phone since March. Only important thing to remember is to restart the phone every few days or it looses some of its snap.
I decided to install "one power guard" but it's not really making that big of a difference. At first I was able to make it 2 days between charges and get almost 7 hours of screen on time. Now I can go a day and a half. I only have used a car charger three times and ALWAYS use the stock charger. Too risky.
This phone basically performs like my galaxy nexus but gets great battery life. I might get the note 3 in September but only if my battery life worsens.
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I've had the OG, the Droid X, NeXuS and a Razr, and now finally the RAZR HD..
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Been using my phone since March...
I might get the note 3 in September but only if my battery life worsens.
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How do you guys afford to upgrade so often?! Do you have family plans and steal upgrades?
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How do you guys afford to upgrade so often?! Do you have family plans and steal upgrades?
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I actually have been lucky on my upgrades. I had the Original Droid, I flashed sooooo many roms on it that it started getting buggy. Found a Droid X for 200 and snatched it up.. When my contract was up for the Orig Droid, I got the NeXus.. The volume on it was so bad that I couldn't stand it, so I went back to Verizon and traded it in on the Rezound. It was an AWESOME phone.. It has/had some GREAT devs.. I then found a Droid RAZR HD on craigslist because I will not upgrade and lose my unlimited data.. If I lose my unlimited on Verizon, it will be because they make me. I will then go to another provider as I am really pissed with VZW about this...
I freaking love this RAZR HD.. Might be my favorite phone so far.. Not sure why it doesn't have more Developers and ports....
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How do you guys afford to upgrade so often?! Do you have family plans and steal upgrades?
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Yes, 2 smartphones with grandfathered unlimited data, and 3 feature phones. Why on earth people with a similar setup would blow an upgrade on a feature phone is beyond me.
I'm sure this won't go on forever though.
My razr maxx hd was purchased at full retail but was then reimbursed because my phone at the time was damaged and did not have a comparable replacement available.
I find it completely hysterical that verizons new upgrade payment plan called edge is only for share everything plans. BS!
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Yes, 2 smartphones with grandfathered unlimited data, and 3 feature phones. Why on earth people with a similar setup would blow an upgrade on a feature phone is beyond me.
I'm sure this won't go on forever though.
My razr maxx hd was purchased at full retail but was then reimbursed because my phone at the time was damaged and did not have a comparable replacement available.
I find it completely hysterical that verizons new upgrade payment plan called edge is only for share everything plans. BS!
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Verizon loves you.
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mentose457 said:
Verizon loves you.
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It's a love hate relationship. Verizon is very inconsistent with their CS. If I ever have a problem I basically prep myself to make 5 calls.
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So I noticed when I take video the audio that is recorded is all garbled and static. Any one have this problem? Running 4.2.2 on a DE
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No. But I did notice yesterday I had no audio at all. A reboot fixed it.
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No. But I did notice yesterday I had no audio at all. A reboot fixed it.
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Nope, thats not it for me. I tried FXZing, and that did not work. I then updated to 4.4. Still didnt work. I am about done with this phone. Now after updating, touchless control isnt working. The old bugs of double home button is back, and when you FXZ it wipes your whole SD Card partition, not just the data partition, so I lost a bunch of stuff.
Anyway, once motox 2 comes out I think I am jumping ship.
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Nope, thats not it for me. I tried FXZing, and that did not work. I then updated to 4.4. Still didnt work. I am about done with this phone. Now after updating, touchless control isnt working. The old bugs of double home button is back, and when you FXZ it wipes your whole SD Card partition, not just the data partition, so I lost a bunch of stuff.
Anyway, once motox 2 comes out I think I am jumping ship.
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Surely you could consider letting verizon exchange it? Or FDR and sell it as is? I assume you're unlocked. If so that's gonna suck to lose that. Have you tried any other roms? I mean if you've already lost everything why not try.
I had weird problems on a Galaxy nexus. Switching computers helped somewhat.
Does this phone use different microphones for speakerphone / audio /video recording?
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Surely you could consider letting verizon exchange it? Or FDR and sell it as is? I assume you're unlocked. If so that's gonna suck to lose that. Have you tried any other roms? I mean if you've already lost everything why not try.
I had weird problems on a Galaxy nexus. Switching computers helped somewhat.
Does this phone use different microphones for speakerphone / audio /video recording?
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Well I bought it off Swappa so doubt verizon will do anything. It is a DE edition so I am going to call motorola and see if they will do anything about it.
I probably will try some new roms, just hate losing touchless control, active display, and the gestures to go straight to camera.
I have tried different apps, like instagram, to record video and still no luck with it recording sound.
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Well I bought it off Swappa so doubt verizon will do anything. It is a DE edition so I am going to call motorola and see if they will do anything about it.
I probably will try some new roms, just hate losing touchless control, active display, and the gestures to go straight to camera.
I have tried different apps, like instagram, to record video and still no luck with it recording sound.
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Well found out the microphone alltogether does not work. Was working fine two days ago. Anyone have an issue like this? I cant even make calls. Anyone return a DE to motorola and was it easy?
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Anyone return a DE to motorola and was it easy?
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If you return it you need to keep pestering them for status or they'll let it sit.
I had to return mine after it dropped dead. I was able to get a replacement, but it was kind of an odd procedure - apparently the folks who do Moto's repairs don't have a way to get new phones, and/or there aren't enough DE's cycling through to have refurbished ones on hand. They eventually told me to buy a new one from Moto's web store and cut me a check to reimburse me. I'm guessing their service is done by a subcontractor.
Ultimately I did end up with a new unit, and wasn't any poorer (they turned around the check about a week after I sent them the receipt).
I'm hoping for your case they can simply swap out the mike assembly, if I recall from one of the teardowns on the web it's a small plugin unit so they should not need to replace the motherboard.
I see no reason they shouldn't support it though, the DE's haven't been out long enough for any of them to be out of warranty.
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If you return it you need to keep pestering them for status or they'll let it sit.
I had to return mine after it dropped dead. I was able to get a replacement, but it was kind of an odd procedure - apparently the folks who do Moto's repairs don't have a way to get new phones, and/or there aren't enough DE's cycling through to have refurbished ones on hand. They eventually told me to buy a new one from Moto's web store and cut me a check to reimburse me. I'm guessing their service is done by a subcontractor.
Ultimately I did end up with a new unit, and wasn't any poorer (they turned around the check about a week after I sent them the receipt).
I'm hoping for your case they can simply swap out the mike assembly, if I recall from one of the teardowns on the web it's a small plugin unit so they should not need to replace the motherboard.
I see no reason they shouldn't support it though, the DE's haven't been out long enough for any of them to be out of warranty.
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Yeah so moto got back to me quickly. They offered a maxx DE or motox DE with power pack. I went with the motox. More development. Just getting annoyed with all the bugs on the maxx 4.4 and waiting for updates that the x will continue to get on time. I will miss this battery life. Definitely got spoiled.
As for the return they are doing it how Verizon does it. Sending phone with label to send maxx back. Think I need to lock the bootloader prior to sending it back?
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Think I need to lock the bootloader prior to sending it back?
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Nah. It's a developer edition, so mucking with the software is perfectly expected.
You might want to do a factory wipe though, just for safety's sake (practice Safe Hex!).
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Nah. It's a developer edition, so mucking with the software is perfectly expected.
You might want to do a factory wipe though, just for safety's sake (practice Safe Hex!).
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Ha will do. What's funny is the recorder magically started working today. Not perfectly but seems to pick up sound now. I think it's from the sulfer smoke at Yellowstone. That's when it began. Anyway, the upgrade still brought the bugs of double tap home button which annoys the hell out of me so I think I'll go with the X anyway. Seems much more stable and working the way it should.
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