Help needed!! - HTC Desire S

I have hitachi screen panel n I flashed xperia jellybean then gaps and then 82n kernel..the phone gets past htc logo but stucks in a black screen n only capacitive buttons light up and nothing occurs...plz help mee!!

pknagi said:
I have hitachi screen panel n I flashed xperia jellybean then gaps and then 82n kernel..the phone gets past htc logo but stucks in a black screen n only capacitive buttons light up and nothing occurs...plz help mee!!
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1.reboot to recovery again,
easiest via ADB on pc
2.restore the backup of your previous rom
you've surely made before flashing
3.or any sense rom
4.tell me why-knowing about your panel-
you have flashed the rom without obtaining
some information about possible complications

asgardr said:
1.reboot to recovery again,
easiest via ADB on pc
2.restore the backup of your previous rom
you've surely made before flashing
3.or any sense rom
4.tell me why-knowing about your panel-
you have flashed the rom without obtaining
some information about possible complications
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What complications...just have to flash the kernel n rest everything is same?

pknagi said:
What complications...just have to flash the kernel n rest everything is same?
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Well, not every aosp based rom,cooperates nicely
with the panel your device is having...
Check general section for non sony panel thread,
of course, there might be another reason your device does not start,
and that would be:
when it is s- on, boot.img from that rom
needs to be flashed separately, because it has not been flashed from recovery-with the rest,
as some partitions on an s-on device are only reachable via fastboot- in bootloader...
but i suppose you know that,..
There is one or two, or sometimes even more such threads a day,
info about flashing boot img on an s-on device, is dominating
Q&A section for a long time

asgardr said:
Well, not every aosp based rom,cooperates nicely
with the panel your device is having...
Check general section for non sony panel thread,
of course, there might be another reason your device does not start,
and that would be:
when it is s- on, boot.img from that rom
needs to be flashed separately, because it has not been flashed from recovery-with the rest,
as some partitions on an s-on device are only reachable via fastboot- in bootloader...
but i suppose you know that,..
There is one or two, or sometimes even more such threads a day,
info about flashing boot img on an s-on device, is dominating
Q&A section for a long time
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No I have s-off with revolutionary hboot

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Hangs at bootloader or reboots to recovery

I rooted my phone yesterday and installed a rom.
I followed all steps clearly but once i flashed the rom and i restart, it hangs at htc logo screen for 1 minute and then reboots and shows htc logo screen again and goes directly to recovery. I am unable to see any rom interface. I tried two different roms and same result. Now tried to restore back to my sense ui and still it does not work. Help please
A wild guess: you used HTCDev unlock method and didn't flash kernel manually, even though it's written in zillion places to do so.
Jack_R1 said:
A wild guess: you used HTCDev unlock method and didn't flash kernel manually, even though it's written in zillion places to do so.
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yes what do i do now
Read the guides that say how to flash kernel manually.
Jack_R1 said:
Read the guides that say how to flash kernel manually.
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Thank you i fixed it with guides to flash manually
Fastboot flash boot boot.img
Edit: too late
Swyped from my DesireS
mrbadguy5 said:
Thank you i fixed it with guides to flash manually
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Good that you learned how do do it yourself..
Sent from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3 sources. WAKE UP HTC!!!!
I got that problem here, and it doesn't help flashing the boot.img manually.
Restore stock ROM using RUU (and use misc_version script to downgrade the main version first). If you unlocked using HTCDev, you'll need to relock first. Read the guides, they're aplenty.
If it won't help or will write Fail-PU during restore - your phone is done.

[Q] HTC Desire S bootlap_Fallout ROM

My HTC Desire S is in bootlap. I have flashed the Fallout rom however accidently it got rebooted before using the Fast boot flash boot.img
What to do ? shall I pull the battery? Volume down and power on method not working.
adb reboot bootloader
Then flash boot.img.
pramod.shinde1981 said:
My HTC Desire S is in bootlap. I have flashed the Fallout rom however accidently it got rebooted before using the Fast boot flash boot.img
What to do ? shall I pull the battery? Volume down and power on method not working.
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Let the battery drain. When your phone turns off, charge it for half an hour or so (it won't turn on unless it's a certain % charged). Then hold VolDown and firmly press Power for a second or so; release Power but keep VolDown pressed, and the phone will boot into fastboot.
teadrinker said:
adb reboot bootloader
Then flash boot.img.
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This, quicker and just easy :thumbup:
Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand.
—Kurt Vonnegut
teadrinker said:
adb reboot bootloader
Then flash boot.img.
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Somehow Fallout V 5 is not working. Post flashing the boot.img. Phone displaying only black screen however its display battery,network status and notification. Tried to do the restore to earlier rom. But evrytime after Reboot its displaying 4ext recovery options
Learning by mistakes is the real experience
pramod.shinde1981 said:
Somehow Fallout V 5 is not working. Post flashing the boot.img. Phone displaying only black screen however its display battery,network status and notification. Tried to do the restore to earlier rom. But evrytime after Reboot its displaying 4ext recovery options
Learning by mistakes is the real experience
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Start again, flash the rom, turn off reboot bootloader flash kernel
Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand.
—Kurt Vonnegut
jugg1es said:
Start again, flash the rom, turn off reboot bootloader flash kernel
Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand.
—Kurt Vonnegut
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You mean to say I cant restore to stock ROM and now I have to flash Fallout or any other custom rom
Or Can I locked the bootloader and install the ICS RUU?
What you suggest
pramod.shinde1981 said:
You mean to say I cant restore to stock ROM and now I have to flash Fallout or any other custom rom
Or Can I locked the bootloader and install the ICS RUU?
What you suggest
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If i'm not mistaken, you should be able to relock bootloader using fastboot command then flash RUU
or just try to flash another custom rom. it's really up to you.
Dont install ics ruu. Format all partitions except SD then reflash your Rom properly.
Tapatalké depuis mon Desire S
My understanding of the ics ruu is that it's too buggy overall, you can install the ruu at any point as long as you lock the bootloader first. I didnt realise you were going back to stock. I thought you wanted fallout working
Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand.
—Kurt Vonnegut
jugg1es said:
My understanding of the ics ruu is that it's too buggy overall, you can install the ruu at any point as long as you lock the bootloader first. I didnt realise you were going back to stock. I thought you wanted fallout working
Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand.
—Kurt Vonnegut
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As long as its working I am OK with Fallout or else will again go back to RUU for the time being.
As suggested by you this is the second time I have flashed the Fallout ROM now waiting to reboot the same. Still getting the HTC ONE V logo screen. let see..will update you.
And if you all guys are there to help the peoples/new users like me then No Worry at all...
Thanks once again.
pramod.shinde1981 said:
As long as its working I am OK with Fallout or else will again go back to RUU for the time being.
As suggested by you this is the second time I have flashed the Fallout ROM now waiting to reboot the same. Still getting the HTC ONE V logo screen. let see..will update you.
And if you all guys are there to help the peoples/new users like me then No Worry at all...
Thanks once again.
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Finally...Fallout V 5 on my HTC Desire S...
A Big thank you to all
pramod.shinde1981 said:
Finally...Fallout V 5 on my HTC Desire S...
A Big thank you to all
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Im glad your up and running, try reading a bit more before you make threads though.
Can you put "solved" in the thread title
Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand.
—Kurt Vonnegut
HTC Desire S bootlap_Fallout ROM_Problem Solved
jugg1es said:
Im glad your up and running, try reading a bit more before you make threads though.
Can you put "solved" in the thread title
Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand.
—Kurt Vonnegut
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Yes sure..Issue has been resolved.
Thanks

[Q] HTC Desire S Stuck on htc logo

Hi all,
I'm facing a strange behaviour after rom flashing.
I've unlocked my device through HTCDEV, then I've installed EXT4 Recovery from here RECOVERY then I've installed this ROM
After last step, flash boot image using this code: fastboot flash boot boot.img, the device stuck on logo during the first reboot even if all the steps (also the flash boot.img) finished well.
I'm able to access in fastboot , run recovery etc etc
The only way to recovery my device is "re-lock" using this code: fastboot oem lock , and flash again the original one (RUU_SAGA_ICS_35_S_HTC_EU_14.01.401.2_20.76.30.0835 _3831.19.00.110_275068)
I did these steps many times using other devices (same model) withou errors.
Am I missing something ?
Any hint or suggestion how to debug it ?
Tns,
SBK
sbk01 said:
The only way to recovery my device is "re-lock" using this code: fastboot oem lock , and flash again the original one (RUU_SAGA_ICS_35_S_HTC_EU_14.01.401.2_20.76.30.0835 _3831.19.00.110_275068)
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Not quite understanding what you want to do with this.
You have access to recovery, why not simply flash the rom and boot.img again?
Its a JB rom, it's possible you have an mddi panel have a quick read of this thread and see if it applies to you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943524
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oddoneout said:
Not quite understanding what you want to do with this.
You have access to recovery, why not simply flash the rom and boot.img again?
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Because I did it many times ... and still stuck. Moreover, I try to flash another ROM with the same behaviour
jugg1es said:
Its a JB rom, it's possible you have an mddi panel have a quick read of this thread and see if it applies to you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943524
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Uhmmmm ... interesting. I'll check about that.
Thanks
sbk
jugg1es said:
Its a JB rom, it's possible you have an mddi panel have a quick read of this thread and see if it applies to you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943524
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Got it! You've right.
In this device I've installed a Hitachi MDDI panel.
Unfortunately the procedure to change the kernel it seem that did not work with flinnny's ROM.
I have to find a new compatible rom.
Tnx
Sbk
I've installed this ROM CyanogenMod 10 Experimental Alpha for HTC Desire S by nk111 with 82n kernel
and all works fine :laugh:
sbk

[Q] Totally stuck - Desire S. cant boot :(

Hi all. Ive finally managed to get a grasp of the principles of adb, shell, fastboot, etc.
Anyways - I have a Desire S which I unlocked via htcdev, and installer the lastest clockworkmod recovery. ive been trying to get S-off and nothing has worked for me. Ive spent the last 2 days downloading so much stuff my desktop if full of it - and im nowhere.
I had ICS for htc running before without any mods and wanted to try the root / mod thing.
My phone hangs at the htc boot screen. I have tried installing 3 different cw10.1 zip files all from xda to no avail, they always give me an error. Ive tried running the RUU exe and it ends in an error. I then fund the rom.zip file in the directory and renamed it to PB99IMG.zip, dropped it in root of sdcard and nothing.. it just skips past the lines and goes to fastboot. Should it not be named PB88IMG.zip? I recall seeing those numbers flit past.
Is it possible to force the bastard phone to take cwm this way by renaming the zip? (Ive read no - its only for official RUU's).
anyway - the oneclick didnt work, nor did ver1, ive tried various shell methods (which i cant even recall). Im currentlyunlocked, S-ON, firmware 20.2.2000 or something (the one that revolutionary WONT work on).
Ive been chasing my tail and just gave up.
please give me some info as to what i could have dobe wrong. I installed clockwork via lpay store. I factory reset, cleared caches and batt logs and was able to go into the OS a few times - but obviously one of the methods i tried did something.
thanks again great forum, but honestly, what a complete mess!! there are so many approaches with so many pitfalls its crazy.. esp for a noob when the noob apps dont work either!
HTC Desire S GSM
unclocked via htcdev
S-ON
hboot: 2.02.0002
Radio: 3831.19.00.110
Latest CMWR
Gets stuck @ white screen
Tried:
factory reset / wipe / dalvik / batt stats
reboot to recovery: install SU, gapps, cwm rom 10.1 (also tried 7.1). reboot / then fastboot boot boot.img (from the CWM zip). nothing.
Ive tried re installing the EU RUU - also nothing. Renaming the rom.zip to PG**IMG.zip, it reading the file then stops 2 fastboot screen. nothing. nada.zip.
fstarockr said:
Hi all. Ive finally managed to get a grasp of the principles of adb, shell, fastboot, etc.
Anyways - I have a Desire S which I unlocked via htcdev, and installer the lastest clockworkmod recovery. ive been trying to get S-off and nothing has worked for me. Ive spent the last 2 days downloading so much stuff my desktop if full of it - and im nowhere.
I had ICS for htc running before without any mods and wanted to try the root / mod thing.
My phone hangs at the htc boot screen. I have tried installing 3 different cw10.1 zip files all from xda to no avail, they always give me an error. Ive tried running the RUU exe and it ends in an error. I then fund the rom.zip file in the directory and renamed it to PB99IMG.zip, dropped it in root of sdcard and nothing.. it just skips past the lines and goes to fastboot. Should it not be named PB88IMG.zip? I recall seeing those numbers flit past.
Is it possible to force the bastard phone to take cwm this way by renaming the zip? (Ive read no - its only for official RUU's).
anyway - the oneclick didnt work, nor did ver1, ive tried various shell methods (which i cant even recall). Im currentlyunlocked, S-ON, firmware 20.2.2000 or something (the one that revolutionary WONT work on).
Ive been chasing my tail and just gave up.
please give me some info as to what i could have dobe wrong. I installed clockwork via lpay store. I factory reset, cleared caches and batt logs and was able to go into the OS a few times - but obviously one of the methods i tried did something.
thanks again great forum, but honestly, what a complete mess!! there are so many approaches with so many pitfalls its crazy.. esp for a noob when the noob apps dont work either!
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There are so many people, blindly walking in to troubles just because they do not read,
and you seem to be one of them....
When you unlock your device via htc dev, your device stays s- on,
it means- whatever you flash, you have to flash boot.img from that thing ( meaning rom naturaly )
via fastboot
through command:
fastboot flash boot boot .img
Without it your phone will never boot...
Recovery you flash via fastboot as well via command:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
Then , when you have it, reboot your device to recovery
and flash superuser and its binaries
And that woud be all you have to do in order to have rooted and booting device...
Edit: Now i've seen your other post- it is a 100% the one im reading now,
You should know it is enough to post your question once,
people'll find it...
Because of impatience you're in trouble already with your phone
tx -
tx for that info - ill give it a go.
I reposted because some1 there said i was in the wrong section and supplied a link for the correct section (here) - so yes, i reposted to get the correct replies.
not to digress:
but as for not reading - i can assure u ive read alot. Been a freelance developer for 15 years. That doesnt mean that rooting often requires a handful of little hacks when things dont go smooth. Just like alot of programming tuts, the rooting ones have a similar "assumption" that u know whats half potting, and what will cause what and what wont. All the articles i read i made sure were either 2012 or 2013 - there is ALOT of old non applicable info around, I stick to xda of course as i really trust this place. as usual, not all is 1-2-3. thats all.
asgardr said:
There are so many people, blindly walking in to troubles just because they do not read,
and you seem to be one of them....
When you unlock your device via htc dev, your device stays s- on,
it means- whatever you flash, you have to flash boot.img from that thing ( meaning rom naturaly )
via fastboot
through command:
fastboot flash boot boot .img
Without it your phone will never boot...
Recovery you flash via fastboot as well via command:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
Then , when you have it, reboot your device to recovery
and flash superuser and its binaries
And that woud be all you have to do in order to have rooted and booting device...
Edit: Now i've seen your other post- it is a 100% the one im reading now,
You should know it is enough to post your question once,
people'll find it...
Because of impatience you're in trouble already with your phone
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Well thats true, obvious things for me do not have to be obvious for
somebody else- one sometimes forgets that- begging your pardon
If not for XDA, i'd've known not much at all...
I've given the shortest and simpliest way that never failed me before
so, i truly hope, for you it'll turn out to be usefull as well- with no further accidents...
As for comming back to stock: you must relock device's bootloader before flashing,
otherwise procedure will always be throwing an error....
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As for coming back to stock: you must relock device's bootloader before flashing,
otherwise procedure will always be throwing an error....
Im trying to get a picture of the inter relations ~ pls bear with me:i dont want to be trying to sys c: when i dont have a partition kind of scenario - absolute clarity is needed - my apologies as i try wrap this up..
#bootloader:
do the same rules apply for ALL installations? Does bootloader have to be locked FOR anything to boot or just the stock OS's? does it have to be in a sequence - ie do i have to do this each time i try install an OS or can i leave it? Will this break the booting if its wrong? Can i use a bootloader from company X and a rom from company Y? What files do i use/extract/where do i get them, and are they device specific - what r the base requirements?
#S-on/Off
I have been unable to get mine to off -
#unlocked bootloader
its been indicated that this will throw off a stock OS installer, will cyanogenmod work with this off?
#RUU / Mods
I assume these are the OS's - do i have to do this last/middle? and steps after? to duplicate: are they linked to the bootloader?
#recovery
this is just an upgrade to the stock junk and has no effect on booting, etc. can be left in place if working. can install via play or fastboot via zip. (and other methods im sure).
Im trying to figure out what i can do once, and what i have to keep fiddling with, so i can hone in and get up and running.
If my questions appear ignorant - then ignore me. Im trying to paint a very clear picture of the tech relations between the various aspects and how they relate / interact - which is crucial to moving on from noobness - so pls bear with me and drop the remarks / attitude. Ive read my a$$ off and am still unclear for what many assume is basic understanding.
Im sure there are ALOT of sane unlazy logic ppl out there stuck in the same boat - and sometimes ppl who are VERY knowledgeable get a bit semi-aggressive putting ppl off from asking questions.
So do i relock the bootloader before i install any mod - or is this for stock only? And do install stock first, or can i relock and follow the steps above to root / get cwm 10.7 or 7.1 running?
lastly - where do i get the boot.img from? is that device specific or can i extract it / dl it? reason im asking is because it appears this file is device specific - and needs to be backed up from stock device before rooting/unlocking etc?
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fstarockr said:
Hi all. Ive finally managed to get a grasp of the principles of adb, shell, fastboot, etc.
Anyways - I have a Desire S which I unlocked via htcdev, and installer the lastest clockworkmod recovery. ive been trying to get S-off and nothing has worked for me. Ive spent the last 2 days downloading so much stuff my desktop if full of it - and im nowhere.
I had ICS for htc running before without any mods and wanted to try the root / mod thing.
My phone hangs at the htc boot screen. I have tried installing 3 different cw10.1 zip files all from xda to no avail, they always give me an error. Ive tried running the RUU exe and it ends in an error. I then fund the rom.zip file in the directory and renamed it to PB99IMG.zip, dropped it in root of sdcard and nothing.. it just skips past the lines and goes to fastboot. Should it not be named PB88IMG.zip? I recall seeing those numbers flit past.
Is it possible to force the bastard phone to take cwm this way by renaming the zip? (Ive read no - its only for official RUU's).
anyway - the oneclick didnt work, nor did ver1, ive tried various shell methods (which i cant even recall). Im currentlyunlocked, S-ON, firmware 20.2.2000 or something (the one that revolutionary WONT work on).
Ive been chasing my tail and just gave up.
please give me some info as to what i could have dobe wrong. I installed clockwork via lpay store. I factory reset, cleared caches and batt logs and was able to go into the OS a few times - but obviously one of the methods i tried did something.
thanks again great forum, but honestly, what a complete mess!! there are so many approaches with so many pitfalls its crazy.. esp for a noob when the noob apps dont work either!
HTC Desire S GSM
unclocked via htcdev
S-ON
hboot: 2.02.0002
Radio: 3831.19.00.110
Latest CMWR
Gets stuck @ white screen
Tried:
factory reset / wipe / dalvik / batt stats
reboot to recovery: install SU, gapps, cwm rom 10.1 (also tried 7.1). reboot / then fastboot boot boot.img (from the CWM zip). nothing.
Ive tried re installing the EU RUU - also nothing. Renaming the rom.zip to PG**IMG.zip, it reading the file then stops 2 fastboot screen. nothing. nada.zip.
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i think u have MDDI pannel (not the one compatible with cianogen) try to flash a sense rom
have a look of THIS
Hi
#bootloader:
do the same rules apply for ALL installations? Does bootloader have to be locked FOR anything to boot or just the stock OS's? does it have to be in a sequence - ie do i have to do this each time i try install an OS or can i leave it? Will this break the booting if its wrong? Can i use a bootloader from company X and a rom from company Y? What files do i use/extract/where do i get them, and are they device specific - what r the base requirements?
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On HTC devices, the bootloader is called HBOOT. This is a 100% device-specific program whose sole purpose is to initialize the hardware so that an operating system (such as Android, i.e. Linux) can load. If your bootloader is damaged, your device is 100% bricked.
To prevent tampering with the system, HTC have locked ("S-ON") their bootloaders so that they won't accept unsigned ROM images. So, on your HTC phone, you cannot install any operating system other than what's provided by HTC. You can partially lift these restrictions by unlocking via htcdev, as you have, or you can fully lift all restrictions on your device by going S-OFF. S-OFF-ing the Desire S is done by exploiting a bug in HBOOT version 0.98 and overwriting the bootloader with a patched version ("Revolutionary") that has all write protection disabled.
In order to flash official HTC upgrade packages ("RUU"s), you can be either S-ON or S-OFF, but if you're S-ON you MUST lock the bootloader. Anything that's not a RUU can (only) be flashed without re-locking the bootloader.
Having an unlocked bootloader is only relevant when flashing new ROMs or recoveries. Having an unlocked or locked bootloader per se will not affect booting at all, with one well-known exception: if you're S-ON and htcdev unlocked, the write protection installed by the bootloader is still on for the bootloader, radio, and kernel partitions. This means that you can't flash kernels from a running OS -- only from the bootloader. This means that when you flash a custom ROM, it will not be able to flash the kernel automatically, you have to do that manually via fastboot. Failing to do that will result in your phone freezing on the white HTC screen when it tries to boot.
#S-on/Off
I have been unable to get mine to off -
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That's expected, because you're most likely not running a ROM that has a HBOOT version that is vulnerable to the exploit used by Revolutionary.
edit: nope, your HBOOT is newer than 0.98 and is therefore not exploitable.
#unlocked bootloader
its been indicated that this will throw off a stock OS installer, will cyanogenmod work with this off?
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Only official HTC RUUs require that the bootloader be locked.
Cyanogenmod can only be installed with the bootloader unlocked, but you may always re-lock after installing it. Remember to manually flash the boot.img (that's the kernel) via fastboot directly after flashing CM through your custom recovery.
#RUU / Mods
I assume these are the OS's - do i have to do this last/middle? and steps after? to duplicate: are they linked to the bootloader?
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A RUU is a *complete* software package for your device made by HTC. It contains everything from bootloader to operating system. I don't really know what else you're trying to ask, so please elaborate.
#recovery
this is just an upgrade to the stock junk and has no effect on booting, etc. can be left in place if working. can install via play or fastboot via zip. (and other methods im sure).
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The recovery is a specialized mini-Android OS that allows you to flash new software (such as unofficial ROMs such as CM) to your device. What recovery you have installed has no bearing on your main OS. If you're htcdev unlocked, the only way you can install a custom (i.e. non-stock and non-crippled) recovery is via fastboot; if you're S-OFF you can use the 4EXT updater app from Google Play.
So do i relock the bootloader before i install any mod - or is this for stock only? And do install stock first, or can i relock and follow the steps above to root / get cwm 10.7 or 7.1 running?
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Why do you want to install stock?
lastly - where do i get the boot.img from? is that device specific or can i extract it / dl it? reason im asking is because it appears this file is device specific - and needs to be backed up from stock device before rooting/unlocking etc?
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boot.img is inside the zip of the ROM you're going to flash.
I hope I've been able to answer most of your questions. If you require more help, please search first, and if you can't find what you're looking for, please do ask.
fstarockr said:
Im trying to get a picture of the inter relations ~ pls bear with me:i dont want to be trying to sys c: when i dont have a partition kind of scenario - absolute clarity is needed - my apologies as i try wrap this up..
#bootloader:
do the same rules apply for ALL installations? Does bootloader have to be locked FOR anything to boot or just the stock OS's? does it have to be in a sequence - ie do i have to do this each time i try install an OS or can i leave it? Will this break the booting if its wrong? Can i use a bootloader from company X and a rom from company Y? What files do i use/extract/where do i get them, and are they device specific - what r the base requirements?
#S-on/Off
I have been unable to get mine to off -
#unlocked bootloader
its been indicated that this will throw off a stock OS installer, will cyanogenmod work with this off?
#RUU / Mods
I assume these are the OS's - do i have to do this last/middle? and steps after? to duplicate: are they linked to the bootloader?
#recovery
this is just an upgrade to the stock junk and has no effect on booting, etc. can be left in place if working. can install via play or fastboot via zip. (and other methods im sure).
Im trying to figure out what i can do once, and what i have to keep fiddling with, so i can hone in and get up and running.
If my questions appear ignorant - then ignore me. Im trying to paint a very clear picture of the tech relations between the various aspects and how they relate / interact - which is crucial to moving on from noobness - so pls bear with me and drop the remarks / attitude. Ive read my a$$ off and am still unclear for what many assume is basic understanding.
Im sure there are ALOT of sane unlazy logic ppl out there stuck in the same boat - and sometimes ppl who are VERY knowledgeable get a bit semi-aggressive putting ppl off from asking questions.
So do i relock the bootloader before i install any mod - or is this for stock only? And do install stock first, or can i relock and follow the steps above to root / get cwm 10.7 or 7.1 running?
lastly - where do i get the boot.img from? is that device specific or can i extract it / dl it? reason im asking is because it appears this file is device specific - and needs to be backed up from stock device before rooting/unlocking etc?
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# bootloader
The bootloader must be locked to install an RUU (stock rom), it must be unlocked to install a custom rom.
# s-on / s-off
If you unlock your bootloader through htcdev.com, the phone stays s-on. This means you can't install a different radio or hboot (mostly not necessary anyway), or write to the /boot partition or recovery apart from in fastboot.
That means, after every rom installation, you have to reboot to bootloader (fastboot), and flash the boot.img (extracted from the rom you installed)
# recovery
A custom recovery is a must for flashing custom roms (it's where you flash the zips) , I recommend 4ext, other known recoveries are Cwm and twrp. Be aware that you can only flash recoveries in fastboot (not through an app) , if your device is s-on
1.s-off means you can flash anything you want to all partitions on the phone..
S- on (htc dev unlocked) bootloader is unlocked so you gain acces to system partition,
but neither to radio partition nor bootloader itself, so you cannot freely change them at will.
While flashing rom via recovery, ( when s-on) each time you'll have to flash boot.img of that rom -via fastboot as well, because kernel partition is not reachable from recovery ,
Boot img is to bo found in the rom zip ( namely boot.img).
and is absolutely necessary to flash that particular one
or, if existing- other that is compatible with rom of you choice and phone model..
Assuming- to flash any custom:
-bootloader has to be unlocked
-you need custom recovery ( 4ext or clockworkmod)
-rom is packed in zip format ( flashing via recovery)
-each time you change roms, you have to flash boot img of that particular rom,
( to be found inside that rom.zip)
from recovery must reboot to bootloader (adb reboot bootloader)
then flash boot.img...
If it says ok you may now begin booting in to system
Recovery:
To flash anything like roms or mods etc.
custom recovery is required,
stock htc recovery is been there for slightly different purpose,
and is, well.. rather useless for any device customizing...
1.when s-on: is necessary to flash recovery via fastboot-as an < .img > file
so, when it is zipped- extract the file: xxxyy_recovery .img,
change its name just to recovery.img, and flash it...
2.when s-off : is possible to update it via market app (but only when s-off)
RUU: is a stock phone image, and ussualy contains radio and bootloader itself,
flashing it, may upgrade your device's components that normally -while s-on-
you'd not be able to touch, but there is a price:
1.you must relock bootloader: fastboot oem lock
otherwise you'll always be getting an error
(but if you still keep unlock_token from htc dev-can unlock it again)
2.you must establish
A) your device's CID - Customer IDentification number (whether is generic or carrier branded)
B) your phone's software version region ( wwe or asia or..etc)
C) software version ( froyo, gb, ics )
because, normally bootloader will not let you flash lower RUU version
than itself,
( every RUU contains bootloader, so the one working on the device
will never let downgrade itself- well not without a little trick of course-this is XDA)
Bootloader:
It is advised to use only bootloaders for your device- if you try to flash something slse,
you'll end up with a dead phone ( no fastboot no nothing- paperweight)
While s-on you cannot upgrade bootloader in any other way but by flashing official RUU...
While s-off it is possible to write to bootloader partition ( but always a bit risky)
There are:
- stock bootloaders
- patched ( revolutionary )
- eng bootloaders ( modified - possible to overwrite it by different one in case it is necessary)...
...well... now, there is much more to it if one wants to know everything
if there is something you'd like to know in particular- write back...
fantastic answers and explanations last 3 chaps!!!!
Guys - excellent answers thank you SO much! i have a MUCH better idea now thanks to your no attitude clear answers! I think this should be a sticky as it clears SOOO much confusion for a multitude of users - and fills the forums with the same problems over and over - simply because ppl lack this base understanding b4 opening the darn prompt lol (like me!!)
So to recap"
While flashing rom via recovery, ( when s-on) each time you'll have to flash boot.img of that rom -via fastboot as well, because kernel partition is not reachable from recovery ,
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so by following these directions:
Assuming- to flash any custom:
-bootloader has to be unlocked
-you need custom recovery ( 4ext or clockworkmod)
-rom is packed in zip format ( flashing via recovery)
-each time you change roms, you have to flash boot img of that particular rom,
( to be found inside that rom.zip)
from recovery must reboot to bootloader (adb reboot bootloader)
then flash boot.img...
If it says ok you may now begin booting in to system
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im basically working around the S-On / kernel & partition issue i take it?
Im gonna try all this now - reason i wanted to flash stock
Why do you want to install stock?
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is so that i can apply the earlier exploits to gain S-Off - but ill try the steps above and see.
fwiw - at this point im only downloading roms specifically for my phone - its my 1st so im going with stable ones, cyanogen for now. Once I have a better grip ill explore after that
btw:
A RUU is a *complete* software package for your device made by HTC. It contains everything from bootloader to operating system. I don't really know what else you're trying to ask, so please elaborate.
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I was trying to figure out if the OS / roms / RUU had to be tied to boot images - as it appears they do, and whether there was a specific sequence to installing them). Since u clarified the RUU's are all-in-ones i guess the installer takes care of that, where as the others have pointed out - flashing custom roms require the boot.img to be flashed AFTER installing the rom - not the best question i admit!!
If your bootloader is damaged, your device is 100% bricked.
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So if i can access fastboot etc then i can assume mine is fine right?
Thanks again guys - if there was a ribbon bar instead of just thanks id hit all of u a few times - im SURE many noobs will find all this info really really helpful. Its hard to tie the parts together and get an idea of how they all fit - its really puzzling.. and I know u gotta break something before u really understand it - but its nice to avoid this if possible!
Ill keep u posted on progress/results
no luck .... yet
got it working guys - had to flash boot img BEFORE rom, not after.
cyanogen mod 10.1 running on Desire s.
2 days of pain over
fstarockr said:
so by following these directions:
im basically working around the S-On / kernel & partition issue i take it?
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Exactly.
Im gonna try all this now - reason i wanted to flash stock
is so that i can apply the earlier exploits to gain S-Off - but ill try the steps above and see.
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That's a valid reason, but in that case you don't need to flash a custom rom first. You just need to use misc_version to lower your mainversion (a fastboot variable) and then you must flash an old (exploitable) RUU. There are numerous guides on how to do this.
I was trying to figure out if the OS / roms / RUU had to be tied to boot images - as it appears they do, and whether there was a specific sequence to installing them). Since u clarified the RUU's are all-in-ones i guess the installer takes care of that, where as the others have pointed out - flashing custom roms require the boot.img to be flashed AFTER installing the rom
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Correct, but only if you're S-ON and htcdev unlocked. If you're S-OFF the recovery has no problem writing the boot image by itself.
So if i can access fastboot etc then i can assume mine is fine right?
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Hell, the mere fact that you can turn on your device means your bootloader is fine
got it working guys - had to flash boot img BEFORE rom, not after.
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No you don't? The order doesn't matter, as long as you've flashed both.

[Q] Help with ROM needed (maybe trivial ...)

Oh my ... I have now spent sure 6 or 7 hours trying to figure this out. If anybody could help me, please ?
This is not my first attempt at root, and I have been succesful with my HTC Wildfire S and installed various Custom ROMs on that, all fine.
Now I have a Desire S, that I managed to unlock (UNLOCKED), which is still S-ON, and, from all I can tell, rooted (superuser app does not complain about anything), I had installed 4EXT on the HTC Sense Stock rom that came with the phone, and that installed fine and no complaints.
HBOOT is 2.02.0002, which many people say requires downgrading, but then in other places it is said, this is not strictly necessary.
Now the following:
The ONLY recovery I have been able to install is recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-saga.img (using adb flash recovery ... under ubuntu 12.04).
That seems to go well, and the CM recovery comes up fine and I can do backups and so on. If I try to flash 4EXT_Recovery_Touch_v1.0.0.5_RC5 or RC9 and go into recovery, the phone remains stuck in the white boot screen (Telekom branding, it seems). Oh well ... so no 4EXT and back to CM. No problem, just strange.
Now, with S-ON it SHOULD be possible to install custom ROMs, like flinnycm101_saga_22.zip. so i pushed this onto /sdcard, and also extracted the boot.img from this zip. In recovery I can install the .zip seemingly fine, no errors, and then, since this is S-ON, I
sudo adb flashboot flash boot flinnycm101_saga_22.img
(i renamed it from boot.img to that to keep track, should not be a problem, right?). and that goes over well, too. I do not know how many times I have already erased cache, dalvik, factory, battery. all to no avail. when i reboot the phone remains stuck in the white boot screen. at least i would have expected to get the CM spash screen (like that rotating wheel or something like that), but that may not be a problem.
I have tried a few other roms (devilkin 11.0 and carbon) with this method. same, same ...
I really don't know ... sheesh ... any ideas ? And if it boils down to downgrading: can I do that on ubuntu ? All the guides I have found so far required Windows.
Sorry ... clearly I am not a developer. If somebody could nudge me into the right direction ? I am quite happy to do my homework, but not really sure anymore where else to look. This SHOULD work, from all I found in the internet.
And ... I hope this is not the wrong forum. If so, really sorry ...
1000 thanks
Ingo
ipk1 said:
Oh my ... I have now spent sure 6 or 7 hours trying to figure this out. If anybody could help me, please ?
This is not my first attempt at root, and I have been succesful with my HTC Wildfire S and installed various Custom ROMs on that, all fine.
Now I have a Desire S, that I managed to unlock (UNLOCKED), which is still S-ON, and, from all I can tell, rooted (superuser app does not complain about anything), I had installed 4EXT on the HTC Sense Stock rom that came with the phone, and that installed fine and no complaints.
HBOOT is 2.02.0002, which many people say requires downgrading, but then in other places it is said, this is not strictly necessary.
Now the following:
The ONLY recovery I have been able to install is recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-saga.img (using adb flash recovery ... under ubuntu 12.04).
That seems to go well, and the CM recovery comes up fine and I can do backups and so on. If I try to flash 4EXT_Recovery_Touch_v1.0.0.5_RC5 or RC9 and go into recovery, the phone remains stuck in the white boot screen (Telekom branding, it seems). Oh well ... so no 4EXT and back to CM. No problem, just strange.
Now, with S-ON it SHOULD be possible to install custom ROMs, like flinnycm101_saga_22.zip. so i pushed this onto /sdcard, and also extracted the boot.img from this zip. In recovery I can install the .zip seemingly fine, no errors, and then, since this is S-ON, I
sudo adb flashboot flash boot flinnycm101_saga_22.img
(i renamed it from boot.img to that to keep track, should not be a problem, right?). and that goes over well, too. I do not know how many times I have already erased cache, dalvik, factory, battery. all to no avail. when i reboot the phone remains stuck in the white boot screen. at least i would have expected to get the CM spash screen (like that rotating wheel or something like that), but that may not be a problem.
I have tried a few other roms (devilkin 11.0 and carbon) with this method. same, same ...
I really don't know ... sheesh ... any ideas ? And if it boils down to downgrading: can I do that on ubuntu ? All the guides I have found so far required Windows.
Sorry ... clearly I am not a developer. If somebody could nudge me into the right direction ? I am quite happy to do my homework, but not really sure anymore where else to look. This SHOULD work, from all I found in the internet.
And ... I hope this is not the wrong forum. If so, really sorry ...
1000 thanks
Ingo
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From what I see you done it as needed.
First for recovery try find 4ext touch 1.0.0.6 RC1 and try to flash via fastboot ( fastboot flash recovery recovery.img).If you don't get in try TWRP 2.7.0.0 by devil-kin you got it in this forum.
About white screen you should check your display.There's sony and hitachi.If you have sony then you are good and something else is problem but hitachi is problem bc you need MDDI capable kernel or use only CM 7 or older roms.
Read this about that problem http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943524
GL.
Hello!
I find it strange that you're experiencing so many issues while for everybody else things are just fine. I'm not trying to accuse you of anything, it just makes me think that your problems are likely to be on your end...
You don't need to do anything with your hboot, it's fine
Are you sure that flashing www.4ext.net/ddl/saga/recovery.zip using
Code:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
doesn't work?
sudo adb flashboot flash boot flinnycm101_saga_22.img
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This is wrong - should be:
Code:
flashboot flash boot flinnycm101_saga_22.img
But first try:
Code:
flashboot boot flinnycm101_saga_22.img
That will just boot the image from RAM without flashing it to /boot. I recommend trying this out first with this ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240592 - because that ROM is known good. If that works then we know the procedure you use is OK and you can then try to flash a ROM you actually like.
Note that AOSP roms may be problematic, because they only work with sony panels. We can check whether you have a sony or a hitachi panel once you have a ROM booting properly. (Unless there is a fastboot command that can tell you this that I'm not aware of.)
And ... I hope this is not the wrong forum. If so, really sorry ...
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It is - questions should be posted in the Questions subforum :silly:
SKENER said:
From what I see you done it as needed.
First for recovery try find 4ext touch 1.0.0.6 RC1 and try to flash via fastboot ( fastboot flash recovery recovery.img).If you don't get in try TWRP 2.7.0.0 by devil-kin you got it in this forum.
About white screen you should check your display.There's sony and hitachi.If you have sony then you are good and something else is problem but hitachi is problem bc you need MDDI capable kernel or use only CM 7 or older roms.
Read this about that problem http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943524
GL.
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all right. thanks. i found that recovery and did
sudo fastboot flash recovery 4EXT_Recovery_Touch_v1.0.0.6_RC1.img
when i go into recovery then, again nothing ... phone is stuck in the white screen. sorry. with white screen i meant the splash screen, which is white on my phone, but has the telecom logo. so i think the screen is allright.
so i pulled the battery and back to cwm (flashed the cms recovery and voila).
Aquous said:
Hello!
I find it strange that you're experiencing so many issues while for everybody else things are just fine. I'm not trying to accuse you of anything, it just makes me think that your problems are likely to be on your end...
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absolutely. that's why i came here. the phone was fine under htc sense, so its not the phone. it got to be me.
Aquous said:
You don't need to do anything with your hboot, it's fine
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Good.
Aquous said:
Are you sure that flashing www.4ext.net/ddl/saga/recovery.zip using
Code:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
doesn't work?
This is wrong - should be:
Code:
flashboot flash boot flinnycm101_saga_22.img
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oh. typo. sorry.
Aquous said:
But first try:
Code:
flashboot boot flinnycm101_saga_22.img
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This boots into recovery. But not exactly. It boots to the white Telekom screen, and then it reboots and goes into recovery. Since I found that strange I extracted the boot image once more from the flinny...zip and tried again. confirmed.
Aquous said:
That will just boot the image from RAM without flashing it to /boot. I recommend trying this out first with this ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240592 - because that ROM is known good. If that works then we know the procedure you use is OK and you can then try to flash a ROM you actually like.
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Downloading. This is "SVHD v2.1.0 by mygamers (MultiDevice)", right ? The thing is huge. That's gonna take a bit and I have to go to work. Get back to you later ...
Aquous said:
Note that AOSP roms may be problematic, because they only work with sony panels. We can check whether you have a sony or a hitachi panel once you have a ROM booting properly. (Unless there is a fastboot command that can tell you this that I'm not aware of.)
It is - questions should be posted in the Questions subforum :silly:
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I extracted the boot.img
Can somebody move this ?
SKENER said:
From what I see you done it as needed.
First for recovery try find 4ext touch 1.0.0.6 RC1 and try to flash via fastboot ( fastboot flash recovery recovery.img).If you don't get in try TWRP 2.7.0.0 by devil-kin you got it in this forum.
GL.
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4ext touch 1.0.0.6 RC1, same problem. stuck at the white telekom screen.
twrp-2.7.0.0-saga-recovery.img, same problem.
but openrecovery-twrp-2.6.3.0-saga.img did work
Ingo
Aquous said:
I recommend trying this out first with this ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240592 - because that ROM is known good.
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tdDDAAA !!!
So I installed the SVHD .zip with TWRP 2.6 (see above) and that did go nowhere yet.
But I then extracted the saga boot image from that zip kernel/saga/boot.img, renamed that to avoid confusions, and then
<code>
fastboot boot "SVHD v2.1.0 by mygamers (saga).img"
</code>
And my Telekom splash screen blinks up, then the HTC sense (quietly brilliant), and some 3 minutes later ... it worked.
Flashing
<code>
fastboot flash boot "SVHD v2.1.0 by mygamers (saga).img"
</code>
MY guess is it was the reformatting to ext4 ... is that something I should have done all along ? Or any other idea ?
Now you have a working phone, you can check which panel type you have, I suspect that has been your problem all along.
Edit: check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943524
teadrinker said:
Now you have a working phone, you can check which panel type you have, I suspect that has been your problem all along.
Edit: check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943524
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Yeah,check panel now.Some phones has that problem.If you have hitachi then I'm sorry.From what I know no1 make MDDI kernel anymore.
teadrinker said:
Now you have a working phone, you can check which panel type you have, I suspect that has been your problem all along.
Edit: check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943524
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Must be, since I tried to install blindnnumbs cm now, and same problem, again ... Good ... so back to SVHD and check that thread. Thanks.
Ingo
One more thing:
On the link you provided the instructions are given as follows, and i am not 100% clear on everything:
1) Wipe all data
2) Flash your custom ROM
3) Get your MDDI compatible kernel and flash it
--> IF (and only IF) you've this error when flashing kernel in recovery: assert failed:write_raw_image("/tmp/boot.img","boot"):
--> 3a) extract boot.img from custom rom ZIP and put it in the adb directory on your PC
--> 3b) reboot in fastboot mode
--> 3c) execute from PC: fastboot flash boot.img
--> 3d) reboot in recovery and retry to flash your new kernel
--> 3e) Now, flashing kernel is completed and you can continue to Step 4)
4) Get new boot.img: in recovery, attach USB cable and run from PC terminal --> adb pull /tmp/newboot.img (it will trasfer generated boot.img to your PC) <--
5) On your PC rename newboot.img file to boot.img
6) Reboot in fastboot mode
7) Install new boot.img (from PC terminal execute --> fastboot flash boot.img <--)
So I
- in twrp i installed cm-10.1-20130709-UNOFFICIAL-saga.zip (blindnnumb cm-10.1, penultimate version. the very last version does not unzip, no matter how many times i download it)
- then flashed fastboot flash boot cm-10.1-20130709-UNOFFICIAL-saga.img
- then flashed fastboot flash boot saga_mddi_291212.img (from your link)
- i pulled newboot.img and then flashed newboot.img
and i am stuck again ... but maybe i did not totally understand the instruction from above ? i.e. 2). do i need to install the zip and the img ?
also in line 7) the command seems to be wrong. right ?
ingo
If you already have a boot.img for the mddi kernel, all you have to do is:
1) flash rom zip file in recovery
2) flash mddi kernel zip in recovery
3) flash mddi kernel boot.img in fastboot
The special instructions for s-on are only needed if you have the kernel zip without the boot.img
teadrinker said:
If you already have a boot.img for the mddi kernel, all you have to do is:
1) flash rom zip file in recovery
2) flash mddi kernel zip in recovery
3) flash mddi kernel boot.img in fastboot
The special instructions for s-on are only needed if you have the kernel zip without the boot.img
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Oh my ... that did not go either. Now I flashed
cm-10-20121116-EXPERIMENTAL-saga-NK111.zip
saga_kernel_82n_4.0_4.1.zip (which does not seem to produce a newboot.img, and does not have a boot.img either)
that, at least, brings up the spinning clockworkmod wheel ... but then that's that, too ...
oh well ... i guess SENSE it is gonna be then ...
ingo
Didn't you read the warning at the top of the hitachi panel thread? It said:
WARNING!
ALL THE LATEST 4.1.x AND 4.2.x ROMS DO NOT SUPPORT HITACHI SCREEN PANELS, EVEN AFTER APPLYING THE CORRECT MDDI KERNEL!
THIS APPLIES TO ROMS THAT ARE BASED ON AOSP, AOKP, CyanogenMod, ParanoidAndroid, PAC-Man, etc., AND ROMS THAT ARE BASED ON MIUI
THE LAST CUSTOM ROM THAT DOES SUPPORT MDDI PANELS IS CyanogenMod 10.1 Build 13 by Flinny, SO THE DATE WHEN BUILD 13 WAS RELEASED IS YOUR GUIDE TO CHOOSE THE CORRECT ROM THAT WILL BOOT UP AFTER FLASHING THE MDDI KERNEL
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Didn't you read the warning at the top of the hitachi panel thread? It said:
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Read it ... and I think I did not understand it right ... I guess I got too tired over it. I thought I had one that should match those criteria. Tomorrow is another day ...
Ingo

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