Is this the right procedure to flash/update a ROM? - General Questions and Answers

Hi guys,
I've got a Nexus 4 running PA 3.50 and I would like to update this ROM.
I've downloaded the latest PA mako 3.65 and GApps from Goo.Manager
I've done a "update.zip" (apps and data) backup with Titanium BackUp PRO and now I am going to flash the new update of the rom.
Is that right to:
- go to recovery
- wipe cache and dalvik cache
- install PA 3.65 and GApps
- flash update.zip
- wipe cache and dalvik cache
- reboot
Am I loosing anything? I mean, ROM settings, sms, whatsapp conversations and stuff like those?
Thanks in advance

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Diablo67 said:
Check out this video...
Remember that google and XDA search is your best friend.
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Thanx for the tip dude, I've watched the video and looked for guide on XDA and Google about updating a rom flashing the backups but I didn't find any...
Well...actually I've found tons of them and I'm pretty confused. That's why I decided to post here.
In the video you posted it says to do a Full Wipe, but maybe it's because he's flashing a different om, right?
Maybe I can skip the process and wiping cache instead, 'cause I'm just uploading it.
Cheers

If its just a small update,yes you can just wipe cache and dalvik,but if its a full update/rom,then you need to do a full wipe,also to make sure and check the developers notes to see what he/she suggests.

Diablo67 said:
If its just a small update,yes you can just wipe cache and dalvik,but if its a full update/rom,then you need to do a full wipe,also to make sure and check the developers notes to see what he/she suggests.
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Thanks dude, you're really helping me out!
May I ask another question?
What about restoring data? I mean, if I backup with Titanium PRO, creating the update.zip file (containing both apps and data files) are there possibilities to get problems on system datas?
'cause I read that system app backups can create conflicts. Is that right?

buddha.afgano said:
Thanks dude, you're really helping me out!
May I ask another question?
What about restoring data? I mean, if I backup with Titanium PRO, creating the update.zip file (containing both apps and data files) are there possibilities to get problems on system datas?
'cause I read that system app backups can create conflicts. Is that right?
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It's possible but unlikely when flashing only a small update.
Backup and only the app data and download the apps again to be safe.
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H3llwar said:
It's possible but unlikely when flashing only a small update.
Backup and only the app data and download the apps again to be safe.
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Oks, so...I am downloading the latest GApps and then do the procedure.
- Wiping cache and dalvik cache
- Wiping factory reset
- Flashing the update of the PA 3+ ROM
- Flashing the GApps
- Rebooting
- Setting up the phone as I did the first time I've booted it
- Installing Titanium BackUp PRO from the Market
- Restoring App+Data ONLY for the green and white colored ones
- Having fun with the updated ROM
So, this is the shortest/best process to flash an update of an existing rom...:good:
I let you know guys.

How did you make out. I use team win it makes it so simple also usually on fire page is where the developer of the rom shows you what to do.
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Nikprelaj said:
How did you make out. I use team win it makes it so simple also usually on fire page is where the developer of the rom shows you what to do.
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Everything went great!
Well actually at the first flashing of some GApps GooManager downloaded me I got errors just after the boot, but I went to recovery and flashed another GApps I'd downloaded using PA Updater.
So, with Titanium BackUp I simply restored everything...and now my phone has the brand new ROM, but everything with every setting as it was before! :good:
Cheers!

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[ROM] Fission Vanilla FRF91 Version 1.1 Test 4

Fission 1.1 Test 4 - D2 http://tinyurl.com/2fzwmkc - DX http://tinyurl.com/2alusr3
You guys and girls know the deal...dont have time for a big post.
Radio issue fixed with some other improvements
Can you be a bit more precise in the exact changes?
Is there going to be an easy way to upgrade I hopes? :s
I'm running 1.0 now and absolutely LOVE it. The Dialer issue is a bit obnoxious, but workable. I just hope I don't have to completely re-flash and start over... again.
@librarat - Agreed. I was literally about to flash 1.0 and saw this was available. I'd hate to have to set up everything all over again. A simpler upgrade would be much appreciated.
is this a wipe or non wipe?
Feedback
Has anyone installed yet and tested? Feedback and thoughts? Just trying to get a feel before I put it on the D2. Thanks
According to the X forums, its a flashover, not a full reeflash. A dev response would be appreciated, though.
I just 1.0 werkin' and don't want to start all over again.
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I flashed over 1.0 without any issues. I don't notice much of a difference.
wsfanatic said:
I flashed over 1.0 without any issues. I don't notice much of a difference.
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yeah its the same really dialer is better though....... calibrate compass bug no fix yet......
Is 1.1 a full ROM, that can be installed standalone, or do we need to start with 1.0 and then go up to 1.1? Just a sanity check
My guess would be, that it is a full ROM. But, alas, I will wait for some more information on this ROM before I flash over 1.0.
Can anyone explain how to perform a flas
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BACKUP your phone using Bootstrap before installing any ROMs so you can go back to your current setup if anything fails. Notice I said that TWICE!!!
1. Download and place ROM on SD Card
2. Open Bootstrap and tap Bootstrap Recovery
3. Reboot into Recovery
4. Create Backup
5. Mount System
6. Wipe Cache -You may choose not to wipe but MAY have problems
7. Wipe Data - You may choose not to wipe but MAY have problems
8. Mount System and Data - Yes double check that both are MOUNTED (Reads UNMOUNT when MOUNTED)
9. Install Zip from SD Card
10. Choose Zip from SD Card
11. Select your ROM
12. Yes - Install
13. Wipe Cache Again - You may choose not to wipe but MAY have problems
14. Wipe Data Again - You may choose not to wipe but MAY have problems
15. Perform a Factory Reset through Android - Settings > Privacy > Factory Data Reset. Wiping Cache and Data from recovery is not enough.
16. Reboot
17. Enjoy!
Taken from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811210
MikeD80 said:
Can anyone explain how to perform a flas
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You also have to be rooted and have installed Koush's recovery bootstraper, which can be had either in the market for a donation or from here http://www.koushikdutta.com/2010/08/droid-x-recovery.html. For root instructions, see the stickied threads about rooting
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You also have to be rooted and have installed Koush's recovery bootstraper, which can be had either in the market for a donation or from here http://www.koushikdutta.com/2010/08/droid-x-recovery.html. For root instructions, see the stickied threads about rooting
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+1. Thanks for the assistance post with this. Mike, I would recommend searching the forums for topics such as these as there are multiple topics that are already available with detailed explanations.
I know how to do a full install, i'm running fission 1.0. I thought there might be a way to "flash" the update without having start over. I just dont feel like doing a full wipe again.
When I installed 1.0 and went to my downloads in the market there were only a handful in the list. I had to try to remember all the apps I had downloaded and manually find them and download them. I have just today gotten things back to normal.
I don't want to have to go thru this every couple days after some minor updates. I'm really liking fission 1.0
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MikeD80 said:
I know how to do a full install, i'm running fission 1.0. I thought there might be a way to "flash" the update without having start over. I just dont feel like doing a full wipe again.
When I installed 1.0 and went to my downloads in the market there were only a handful in the list. I had to try to remember all the apps I had downloaded and manually find them and download them. I have just today gotten things back to normal.
I don't want to have to go thru this every couple days after some minor updates. I'm really liking fission 1.0
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These are full flashes from what I can see and you will have to do it this way each time. If you download the app through the market, the market will restore your apps after you sign into your gmail.
theecho said:
These are full flashes from what I can see and you will have to do it this way each time. If you download the app through the market, the market will restore your apps after you sign into your gmail.
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I understand where he was coming from. It happened to me when I flashed 1.1 coming from what I had. The market only restored about 65% of the apps I had installed. What people need to download is Titanium Backup. Its probably the main app any rooted phone should have installed. You can set a schedule to backup apps and their data daily (or however often you want); when you restore Titanium Backup after flashing a new ROM all you have to do is a "batch" and tell it what you want it to restore and it will restore everything for you. For example; I have HandcentSMS, with custom settings and it restores the app and all its settings.
Its a very helpful app to have
kwheel596 said:
I understand where he was coming from. It happened to me when I flashed 1.1 coming from what I had. The market only restored about 65% of the apps I had installed. What people need to download is Titanium Backup. Its probably the main app any rooted phone should have installed. You can set a schedule to backup apps and their data daily (or however often you want); when you restore Titanium Backup after flashing a new ROM all you have to do is a "batch" and tell it what you want it to restore and it will restore everything for you. For example; I have HandcentSMS, with custom settings and it restores the app and all its settings.
Its a very helpful app to have
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I'm pretty sure on either the Alpha, Beta, or RC1 posts for Fission they said not to use Titanium (or any other backup program) when going from any other ROM to Fission. Would imagine though that going from 1.0 to 1.1 titanium would work just fine though.
kwheel596 said:
I understand where he was coming from. It happened to me when I flashed 1.1 coming from what I had. The market only restored about 65% of the apps I had installed. What people need to download is Titanium Backup. Its probably the main app any rooted phone should have installed. You can set a schedule to backup apps and their data daily (or however often you want); when you restore Titanium Backup after flashing a new ROM all you have to do is a "batch" and tell it what you want it to restore and it will restore everything for you. For example; I have HandcentSMS, with custom settings and it restores the app and all its settings.
Its a very helpful app to have
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Good point. +1 for now.

Stuck in boot loop every time I flash a rom

I've flashed a few roms now (masters stock rooted voodoo versions of nexus s firmware) and every time I do the boot logo just keeps on going until I do a battery pull and reboot, and then it's ok.
It's not a problem, I just wondered why this happens??
did you wipe dalvik, factory settings, cache?
did you change the kernel?
zephiK said:
did you wipe dalvik, factory settings, cache?
did you change the kernel?
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No. These roms don't wipe anything and I don't want to lose my stuff. I don't think you are meant to wipe with them either.
buachaille said:
No. These roms don't wipe anything and I don't want to lose my stuff. I don't think you are meant to wipe with them either.
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I was asking if YOU did wipe them because if you're going from one ROM to the other ROM you are supposed to wipe.
You lose your settings and apps. Back them up using Titanium Backup (Or any other related app).
Or.. better yet, just perform a nandroid backup. After that, wipe those 3 and reboot. See if the problem is resolved, if it is then you already know. If not then nandroid restore.
If you're going from one ROM to a completely different ROM made by someone else, you have to wipe data/factory settings!
If you're flashing an updated version of the current rom you're using, wipe cache/dalvik-cache.
If you're flashing different roms every other day, go buy Titanium Backup to backup your apps/settings.
And uh what ROM are u flashing where "you're not meant to wipe"
-Nexus S
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If you're going from one ROM to a completely different ROM made by someone else, you have to wipe data/factory settings!
If you're flashing an updated version of the current rom you're using, wipe cache/dalvik-cache.
If you're flashing different roms every other day, go buy Titanium Backup to backup your apps/settings.
And uh what ROM are u flashing where "you're not meant to wipe"
-Nexus S
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I am new to this so I'm still getting my head around it.
From stock I went to the rooted voodoo version of this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=971690.
From there I went to the stock rooted version of this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=979851
In both cases it says:
Rom Information:
Does it wipe: No
Does it flash the radio: Yes
So since they don't wipe, I assumed I shouldn't wipe anything, but it looks like I was wrong. From your post it looks like I should have wiped the cache and dalvik cache. I know how to do this in CW but I've never done it and my roms are working fine.
So next time master releases an update I gather I should wipe cache and dalvik cache yeah?
Also, when I do this will it remove any of my settings or apps?
Hope you can answer these questions, and thanks for advice so far.
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Just did a bit of googling and it looks like you don't lose settings when you wipe dalvik cache and cache, so what does actually get removed.
There is a thread stickied in development called ref roms themes and kernels. It gives step by step directions on how to flash all three including what should be wiped. Check it out
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It says:
Does it wipe: No
Does it flash the radio: Yes
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because its saying that the ROM doesn't wipe. Some ROMs are built in a way so that it automatically wipes your phone to ensure best performance. The creator is just saying that it doesn't do that BUT you need to wipe. The keyword does and need are two different things. The basic concept between going from 1 ROM to another (unless its the same ROM series) requires a wipe in all three: dalvik, cache, factory. If you're going from the same ROM to a newer version and encounter bugs, its best if you wipe.
I'm a more advanced user when it comes to Android since the first Android phone. I know what I'm talking about. When you go from stock ROM to another, its going to have bugs if you don't wipe.
If you're using Axura 1.1.1.0 and its fine, and he releases a new version. You can flash without wiping (but you can wipe cache & dalvik to be safe; none of your settings will be wiped). Wiping factory settings is the only one that will wipe your settings / apps.
If you're going to be a flasher, its best if you purchase Titanium Backup Pro (or MyBackup.. but I highly recommend Titanium Backup). Use this program and it will save all of your apps + settings to them. Just don't use it to save SYSTEM apps/files because it will cause FCs.
Dalvik Cache / Cache.. its nothing you need to know in particular. It's just removing cache that your phone set up to increase speeds. It just wipes them and gets the Android system to re-establish them. So no caches from the previous ROM will carry over onto the new one.
EDIT: n/m..............
zephiK said:
It says:
because its saying that the ROM doesn't wipe. Some ROMs are built in a way so that it automatically wipes your phone to ensure best performance. The creator is just saying that it doesn't do that BUT you need to wipe. The keyword does and need are two different things. The basic concept between going from 1 ROM to another (unless its the same ROM series) requires a wipe in all three: dalvik, cache, factory. If you're going from the same ROM to a newer version and encounter bugs, its best if you wipe.
I'm a more advanced user when it comes to Android since the first Android phone. I know what I'm talking about. When you go from stock ROM to another, its going to have bugs if you don't wipe.
If you're using Axura 1.1.1.0 and its fine, and he releases a new version. You can flash without wiping (but you can wipe cache & dalvik to be safe; none of your settings will be wiped). Wiping factory settings is the only one that will wipe your settings / apps.
If you're going to be a flasher, its best if you purchase Titanium Backup Pro (or MyBackup.. but I highly recommend Titanium Backup). Use this program and it will save all of your apps + settings to them. Just don't use it to save SYSTEM apps/files because it will cause FCs.
Dalvik Cache / Cache.. its nothing you need to know in particular. It's just removing cache that your phone set up to increase speeds. It just wipes them and gets the Android system to re-establish them. So no caches from the previous ROM will carry over onto the new one.
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That is a very helpful post and clears a lot up. Many thanks. Looks like I had better do it again and do it right this time.
I've got titanium backup. Bought it after I rooted, but never restored with it yet. Also, thanks for the info about no saving system files with it, as I currently do have it setup to backup all user apps and system data, so I will have to change that. I gather I should just change it to all user apps??
buachaille said:
That is a very helpful post and clears a lot up. Many thanks. Looks like I had better do it again and do it right this time.
I've got titanium backup. Bought it after I rooted, but never restored with it yet. Also, thanks for the info about no saving system files with it, as I currently do have it setup to backup all user apps and system data, so I will have to change that. I gather I should just change it to all user apps??
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Backup all user apps is the one you want to do. You can backup bookmarks using Google sync or a app known as BookmarkSB
If you have system apps backed up, delete all backups using batch and reapply user app backup
zephiK said:
Backup all user apps is the one you want to do. You can backup bookmarks using Google sync or a app known as BookmarkSB
If you have system apps backed up, delete all backups using batch and reapply user app backup
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Thanks for your help. I reflashed the rom and I did it properly this time. Had a bit of a problem with TB restore as I'm a noob but Joel from TB answered an email I sent him very quickly and I got it sorted (thanks joel).
How long does it take to flash a rom once you get good at it? Took me a while tonight because of mistakes.
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buachaille said:
Thanks for your help. I reflashed the rom and I did it properly this time. Had a bit of a problem with TB restore as I'm a noob but Joel from TB answered an email I sent him very quickly and I got it sorted (thanks joel).
How long does it take to flash a rom once you get good at it? Took me a while tonight because of mistakes.
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I can usually get from booting into recovery to having a usable device with most everything set up in about...10 minutes? Assuming I already downloaded the ROM lol sometimes those mirrors are slooooooow.

[Q] Restoring user settings after installing a new ROM

Hey guys,
I just installed CM7, which is awesome, but I'm wondering how everyone keeps up with the new nightly builds without spending an hour restoring their phone every day. Is there a way to backup everything about your phone - even your settings, shortcuts, widgets, etc. - and then restore those settings after you install a new ROM?
Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks!
U don't need to wipe data between every nightlie, I only do that when going from cm7 to faux Rom or vice versa. Just wipe cache, dalvik cache, install zip, fix permissions , reboot.
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You probably wanna flash gapps after the nightly, as well...or you won't have much fun.
kdunn1994 said:
U don't need to wipe data between every nightlie, I only do that when going from cm7 to faux Rom or vice versa. Just wipe cache, dalvik cache, install zip, fix permissions , reboot.
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+1 to this. You wont lose any of your installed apps or settings this way. If you've edited your build.prop file for Netflix then you'll have to do that after flashing a new nightly. And if you are using a custom kernel then you'll have to re-flash that after each new nightly.
between google backup and titanium i have pretty much everything restored in 10 minutes
what about using ROM manager?
All good ways, but I agree with the not doing a full wipe. But if you want to full wipe before each nightly another quick way to restore your apps is Android Commander, a pc program. Also, you do not have to do this:
mmapcpro said:
You probably wanna flash gapps after the nightly, as well...or you won't have much fun.
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after every nightly, you never have.
Nice
Worked perfectly! Thanks to all of you for the tips.
adevilfish said:
between google backup and titanium i have pretty much everything restored in 10 minutes
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How?
I have to wait for market to download every app (including titanium). I can't figure out how to get titanium running without waiting for it to get downloaded from market in some random order.
Thanks.

ROM ?

how can i upload a new rom and not have all of my apps gone...?? i hate having to download all my apps and ish again, is there away to avoid this
Use Titanium Backup and backup all of your current apps. There is a free version of it on the market
You can also use cwm.
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Well the only time you have to Factory Restore (delete everything) is when going from 2 different roms. If you are on stock, you'll have to wipe and format to go to CM7. BUT if you are on CM7 and just want to upgrade to a newer version... no wipe is required. Once you flash, everything will still be installed and configured like you had it.
So if you are forced to Factory Restore and wipe everything, it is always best to just do it. Just do it and set up everything back up on the new Rom, then just upgrade that from then on.
When you use Backup programs, they tend to "carry" over stuff from other roms that can cause bugs and instabilities. A typical rule of thumb is to not restore a backup that was created on another rom. Will it work? Probably. Should You? Probably Not.
I use the free App Backup and Restore. It works, and keeps links to purchased apps intact at reinstall (e.g. it will prompt you to download the app or license file from the Android Market if needed): https://market.android.com/details?id=mobi.infolife.appbackup&hl=en
I also use APN Backup and Restore to ensure my 4G info remains intact: https://market.android.com/details?...mNvbS5yaXRlc2hzYWh1LkFQTkJhY2t1cFJlc3RvcmUiXQ..
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I use the free App Backup and Restore. It works, and keeps links to purchased apps intact at reinstall (e.g. it will prompt you to download the app or license file from the Android Market if needed): https://market.android.com/details?id=mobi.infolife.appbackup&hl=en
I also use APN Backup and Restore to ensure my 4G info remains intact: https://market.android.com/details?...mNvbS5yaXRlc2hzYWh1LkFQTkJhY2t1cFJlc3RvcmUiXQ..
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He is asking for app not apn.
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I used titanium backup and had good results when I was on eaglesblood. I recently flashed to weapons and all my titanium backup data was gone so I couldnt restore. I think this was due to wiping and then formatting data as the instructions say to do when flashing the rom.
K2sInteg98 said:
I used titanium backup and had good results when I was on eaglesblood. I recently flashed to weapons and all my titanium backup data was gone so I couldnt restore. I think this was due to wiping and then formatting data as the instructions say to do when flashing the rom.
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It's because LG ROMs use internal storage as primary storage.. Change your backup directory to sdcard/External_SD/Titanium Backup and it should work.
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He is asking for app not apn.
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I know, but one of my pet peeves when installing a new ROM is having to type in APN settings manually after reinstalling my apps, so I threw that in as a bonus.
thank to everybody who helped oon this!

Titanium BU's New Dex Feature

Big problem I just discovered with Titanium Backup that everyone should be aware of... We all know not to backup/restore system settings between Roms...
Well now TB has rolled out a new feature that let's you move the DEX information into the system folder to save space on your data partition. Sounds good, right?
However, if you do so, make sure you don't plan on ever flashing a theme, no-wipe update or any other kind of mod to your phone.
See, with those odex files now in the system partition instead of the dalvik cache, flashable updates that used to wipe the dalvik cache to prevent force closes now can't. Even doing a factory reset won't solve it, because factory reset doesn't wipe /system. You've effectively re-odexed your ROM, preventing ANY changes.
If you've already used this feature, you'll need to either flash a full-wipe ROM to remove the odex files (factory reset isn't enough), or go in and manually delete them through adb shell. If you don't, any time you flash a theme or update to your ROM that doesn't do a full wipe, you'll have force closes.
Good post. (I always avoid odexed roms) . I've used TB for 18mo., and still dont know what 70% of the features do lol. Like market doctor. What is that?
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scottspa74 said:
Good post. (I always avoid odexed roms) . I've used TB for 18mo., and still dont know what 70% of the features do lol. Like market doctor. What is that?
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Doesn't that attach your apps to the marketplace, in case you downloaded a file that was not on the market? Im not exactly sure, but that is what my guess would be.
to wipe system in cwm just go to..
mount/system/format
no probs
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d12unk13astard said:
to wipe system in cwm just go to..
mount/system/format
no probs
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Well if you wipe system, you would have to re-flash because you would have no system.... which is essentially the same as re-flashing a full-wipe Rom...
The point is it breaks modding system files through normal methods (just push/flash without wiping)...
oic lol i fail'd
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