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Quadrant score going down

I was running scores of over 2k each run.. running perfect storm 1.3v and bamf 4.3b kernel. I updated to 4.42. Delete the cache in setup CPU.. and auto set it to abt 1400+ now my phone is constantly running in he 1700 quadrant... Someone please help..
edit* sometimes when i run quadrant the cpu section won't even calculate and jumps directly to the second test... omg
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MisterDonut said:
I was running scores of over 2k each run.. running perfect storm 1.3v and bamf 4.3b kernel. I updated to 4.42. Delete the cache in setup CPU.. and auto set it to abt 1400+ now my phone is constantly running in he 1700 quadrant... Someone please help..
edit* sometimes when i run quadrant the cpu section won't even calculate and jumps directly to the second test... omg
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Why are you so concerned with what Quadrant says? Your last paragraph sounds as though you spend hours running Quadrant over and over lol. Just enjoy the phone!

this is my first android, so i'm seeing how every rom and every kernel can effect the the speed.. but now i'm running sub scores, and i feel like maybe this kernel isn't as good.. i tried flashing back to 4.3b.. but no luck, i feel like there is something wrong with the phone

When you are flashing are you doing a factory wipe, cache wipe and dalvik wipe. That may help. As for the 1700 that is what I am getting on a cleaned stock rooted rom. My phone is fast. Once you get into overclocking I feel it effects the life on the phone, but that is just my opinion.

Chalup said:
Why are you so concerned with what Quadrant says? Your last paragraph sounds as though you spend hours running Quadrant over and over lol. Just enjoy the phone!
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Thus has gotten misinterpreted on the web. Quadrant scores are meaningless between devices. One phone could get low scores but be optimized to run smooth and fast. While some other device could get high scores but be optimized poorly and run bad.
HOWEVER, scores do have meaning compared within the same phone model. A thunderbolt vs thunderbolt has meaning. It foes show the performance of how well the phone can do tasks like dcriol a list, crunch thru some JavaScript or HTML, or load a game.
I see everyone say benchmark test scores are meaningless, and that original statement meant "meaningless between different models", but not comparing within the same model.
A nexus one on gingerbread only gets 1000 on quadrant, and its slower and choppy scrolling lists. But the nexus one on froyo gets 1650 easily, and froyo was way smoother scrolling lists etc. The lower score shows its reduced performance ability to do various tasks, and it shows in actual use.

RogerPodacter said:
Thus has gotten misinterpreted on the web. Quadrant scores are meaningless between devices. One phone could get low scores but be optimized to run smooth and fast. While some other device could get high scores but be optimized poorly and run bad.
HOWEVER, scores do have meaning compared within the same phone model. A thunderbolt vs thunderbolt has meaning. It foes show the performance of how well the phone can do tasks like dcriol a list, crunch thru some JavaScript or HTML, or load a game.
I see everyone say benchmark test scores are meaningless, and that original statement meant "meaningless between different models", but not comparing within the same model.
A nexus one on gingerbread only gets 1000 on quadrant, and its slower and choppy scrolling lists. But the nexus one on froyo gets 1650 easily, and froyo was way smoother scrolling lists etc. The lower score shows its reduced performance ability to do various tasks, and it shows in actual use.
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very true but some kernels have various tweaks that can inflate quadrant scores...also on the droid x you could blow up quadrant by disabling stage fright. these phones are so fast it's hard to tell the difference. i've tested just about every kernel and overclocked all the way to 2.06 and the phone goes from really fast... to really really fast... to overheating and unstable lol
i use linpack and cpu benchmark to compare kernels and overclock/governor settings...pretty much gave up on quadrant

Quadrant means nothing... If you can run this piss out of your phone and not make it stall... Its fast enough.
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I wipe cache and devlic
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MisterDonut said:
I wipe cache and devlic
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That should be good. I agree that something about that kernel might be suspect.
If you're bored, try the kernel that I'm running. Option to overclock to 1.4 or 1.9 depending on which you select, Good battery life, and stable. 1.4 gets 23XX on quad and the 1.9 gets people 2700-3000. No cheating too.

[Q] Infuse 4g Performance Issue?

I've recently tried the Quadrant Standard Benchmark and noticed that my phone's score is severely lower than that of other reviewer's benchmarks? I usually score between 960-1060. Any Idea why I'm not getting into the 1100s? Even my brother's Infuse reached 1300.

Quadrant scores necessarily don't mean squat. But just out of curiosity, what have you done to your phone? Are you running the stock shipped ROM?
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I've just rooted it. Bricked it. Used the ultimate Unbrick for Rogers Infuse 4g. Now here I am. One thing I've thought of is space since I have lots of games but eve when I removed almost all of my downloaded Apps. The score hardly improved. I'm wondering whether for those games(mainly Gameloft) where they require a larger download to fully install, when you uninstall those games are the rest of the files from the extra download still on ur phone taking up space?

RazorWare said:
I've just rooted it. Bricked it. Used the ultimate Unbrick for Rogers Infuse 4g. Now here I am. One thing I've thought of is space since I have lots of games but eve when I removed almost all of my downloaded Apps. The score hardly improved. I'm wondering whether for those games(mainly Gameloft) where they require a larger download to fully install, when you uninstall those games are the rest of the files from the extra download still on ur phone taking up space?
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To be honest, if you're not noticing any lag then all should be fine. I recommend running a custom ROM. pretty much all the infuse roms convert your system to ext4 which is much faster than stock. If you need help with anything don't hesitate to ask, but in the right forum
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RazorWare said:
I've just rooted it. Bricked it. Used the ultimate Unbrick for Rogers Infuse 4g. Now here I am. One thing I've thought of is space since I have lots of games but eve when I removed almost all of my downloaded Apps. The score hardly improved. I'm wondering whether for those games(mainly Gameloft) where they require a larger download to fully install, when you uninstall those games are the rest of the files from the extra download still on ur phone taking up space?
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Apps don't influence ur score much. These scores are based on how ur CPU, GPU and memory works, not based on how apps work.
Repeat the quadrant a couple times in a row. First run always seems to give lower values. After 1-2 runs, take average of next 2-3 and you will get the proper score.
Reboot your phone, give it some time to settle, and then run quadrant.
But like pointed above, stock ROMs give lower scores than custom mainly cos of faster file system. Plus, I enabled GPU based graphics by updating my build.xml and am getting about 1800 with my clock set at max 800.

diablo009 said:
Apps don't influence ur score much. These scores are based on how ur CPU, GPU and memory works, not based on how apps work.
Repeat the quadrant a couple times in a row. First run always seems to give lower values. After 1-2 runs, take average of next 2-3 and you will get the proper score.
Reboot your phone, give it some time to settle, and then run quadrant.
But like pointed above, stock ROMs give lower scores than custom mainly cos of faster file system. Plus, I enabled GPU based graphics by updating my build.xml and am getting about 1800 with my clock set at max 800.
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apps running in the background can consume resources and affect the score. also rogers roms tend to score lower. it was that way on the captivate too. btw what's a build.xml? do you mean build.prop?
and to the op your score is in line with what you can expect. if you dont have any specific issues i wouldnt worry about it. quadrant is soo sensitive to atleast 2 areas (encoding/decoding media and file system reads) but not others that you can take an infuse to 4200 but it isnt gonna do too much that it didnt do before.

theROMinator said:
Quadrant scores necessarily don't mean squat. But just out of curiosity, what have you done to your phone? Are you running the stock shipped ROM?
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They really don't!! Neither does Antutu or Linpack.. Gives you a different number every time LOL!! But Definitely look at some of the other roms out there! The few dev's we have left need all the support we can give them!! THANKS INFUSE DEV's!!!!

[Discussion][Perseus Kernel][GT-I9500]

To keep Andrei from going crazy with non-development related questions, I've opened the following thread. That way we keep the development thread for development topics and this for general discussion.

Good deal.
First feature request: Fading in/out LEDs! I've pinged the dev for LightFlow, and while he can implement it on a software level, it would be supremely inefficient and probably drain the battery like crazy.

cmd512 said:
Good deal.
First feature request: Fading in/out LEDs! I've pinged the dev for LightFlow, and while he can implement it on a software level, it would be supremely inefficient and probably drain the battery like crazy.
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Actually that's something which belongs in the dev thread. If anything you can just post on the issue tracker on Github, I've grown vary of XDA.
There's a new TI LED controller so I can't port the old Philips controls from the old phones. I'll rewrite it eventually but I got other things to do now.

AndreiLux said:
Actually that's something which belongs in the dev thread. If anything you can just post on the issue tracker on Github, I've grown vary of XDA.
There's a new TI LED controller so I can't port the old Philips controls from the old phones. I'll rewrite it eventually but I got other things to do now.
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Done, posted on Github!

just got my s4 one day ago. rooted immediately, flashed omega7.0 and the latest perseus. did not touch anything on the u/v in stweak. no o/c as well. but the antutu score is so low 21000+, i thought it at least supposed to be 27000+?
i tried adam kernel, had the same result. is that normal? did i miss anything?

astoncheah said:
just got my s4 one day ago. rooted immediately, flashed omega7.0 and the latest perseus. did not touch anything on the u/v in stweak. no o/c as well. but the antutu score is so low 21000+, i thought it at least supposed to be 27000+?
i tried adam kernel, had the same result. is that normal? did i miss anything?
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Congrats, you win the award for the first post about useless benchmark scores in this thread.

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Congrats, you win the award for the first post about useless benchmark scores in this thread.
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thanks for you response. as i mentioned i got it only one day, without touching anything on u/v & o/c. i guess this is considered lower score than the stock one? i merely care about bench mark, i just want to know is this normal? or i need few days to let it settle down? fyi, i tried more than 10 times and it only score between 20k-21k. perhaps you can be kind enough to give me some idea rather than congrats me.

astoncheah said:
thanks for you response. as i mentioned i got it only one day, without touching anything on u/v & o/c. i guess this is considered lower score than the stock one? i merely care about bench mark, i just want to know is this normal? or i need few days to let it settle down? fyi, i tried more than 10 times and it only score between 20k-21k. perhaps you can be kind enough to give me some idea rather than congrats me.
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It is normal for benchmark to be lower than on stock kernel all devices differ. Following the development of this kernel it has been stated that the kernel is not intended for high benchmarks but more for overall stability, smoothness and better battery life.
Benchmarks is just a number and a high benchmark does not always mean your phone is smooth and performs very well under normal user conditions.
Hope this answers your question and should I be mistaken about anything anyone welcome to rectify me on those points.
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xtacy1 said:
It is normal for benchmark to be lower than on stock kernel all devices differ. Following the development of this kernel it has been stated that the kernel is not intended for high benchmarks but more for overall stability, smoothness and better battery life.
Benchmarks is just a number and a high benchmark does not always mean your phone is smooth and performs very well under normal user conditions.
Hope this answers your question and should I be mistaken about anything anyone welcome to rectify me on those points.
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i never meant that perseus is running low on benchmark, in fact, it's the highest between chainfire's cfroot, wanam's adam. i tried all these 3 kernel, all score only between 19k-21k. i just wonder if i have accidentally limited my cpu speed? i will do a factory reset and re-test it.
again, i dont or merely care about benchmark, i just care if my s4 is running normally.

astoncheah said:
i never meant that perseus is running low on benchmark, in fact, it's the highest between chainfire's cfroot, wanam's adam. i tried all these 3 kernel, all score only between 19k-21k. i just wonder if i have accidentally limited my cpu speed? i will do a factory reset and re-test it.
again, i dont or merely care about benchmark, i just care if my s4 is running normally.
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I have kanged Andrei's response with respect to benchmarks.
Originally Posted by AndreiLux
Samsung cheats during benchmarks by enabling a thermal boost mode which raises the throttling temps by 10°C (90° -> 100°C). I disabled the permissions to this. Practical effects is things like Antutu will give lower scores. This is more realistic of actual performance and I will leave it as such. Benchmark freaks can enable the boost mode manually: /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/boost_mode .
The first throttling speed is 1400MHz and that's why it spends a lot of time there during benchmarking.
Effectively, overclocking on this device makes very little sense unless you can achieve more thermal headroom with undervolting. I personally couldn't get over 1.8GHz on random loads, and couldn't get over 1.7GHz on benchmarking (Antutu 31300).
Nevertheless, the option is there for people who want to stick their phones into their freezers. For everybody else, stop being concerned about numbers.
This seems to affect only a rare number of people and I still don't know the cause. Just cycle the screen once and be done with it.

jlevy73 said:
I have kanged Andrei's response with respect to benchmarks.
Originally Posted by AndreiLux
Samsung cheats during benchmarks by enabling a thermal boost mode which raises the throttling temps by 10°C (90° -> 100°C). I disabled the permissions to this. Practical effects is things like Antutu will give lower scores. This is more realistic of actual performance and I will leave it as such. Benchmark freaks can enable the boost mode manually: /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/boost_mode .
The first throttling speed is 1400MHz and that's why it spends a lot of time there during benchmarking.
Effectively, overclocking on this device makes very little sense unless you can achieve more thermal headroom with undervolting. I personally couldn't get over 1.8GHz on random loads, and couldn't get over 1.7GHz on benchmarking (Antutu 31300).
Nevertheless, the option is there for people who want to stick their phones into their freezers. For everybody else, stop being concerned about numbers.
This seems to affect only a rare number of people and I still don't know the cause. Just cycle the screen once and be done with it.
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"This seems to affect only a rare number of people and I still don't know the cause" guess i am one of them:silly:

did you guys note the download link for perseus alpha 4 rc1 on andrei github? , dont flash it unless you know whats in there
edit: just flashed it (couldnt resist). based on the newer sources it seems, camera works fine with latest cam firmware

lets wait for Andrei release......build seems to be a release candidate....so its should not be for long....

bala_gamer said:
did you guys note the download link for perseus alpha 4 rc1 on andrei github? , dont flash it unless you know whats in there
edit: just flashed it (couldnt resist). based on the newer sources it seems, camera works fine with latest cam firmware
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Thanks for sharing bro but i'm too stupid to find the link would you mind sharing more please?:victory:
update: found it: deleted. sorry

astoncheah said:
just got my s4 one day ago. rooted immediately, flashed omega7.0 and the latest perseus. did not touch anything on the u/v in stweak. no o/c as well. but the antutu score is so low 21000+, i thought it at least supposed to be 27000+?
i tried adam kernel, had the same result. is that normal? did i miss anything?
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I received mine yesterday, rooted, flashed doc rom to remove bloatware, flashed perseus kernel.
I ran a few antutu and I was getting 27-28k without changing any setting.
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@GSeeker
Pls remove the link since we dont know the nature of the version or lets wait unitl andrei unveils it.

bala_gamer said:
did you guys note the download link for perseus alpha 4 rc1 on andrei github? , dont flash it unless you know whats in there
edit: just flashed it (couldnt resist). based on the newer sources it seems, camera works fine with latest cam firmware
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@Power, What rom are you running? I suspect it's rom related.
I'm using omega 7, one of the user experienced the same as mine. Going to flash new rom.
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astoncheah said:
just got my s4 one day ago. rooted immediately, flashed omega7.0 and the latest perseus. did not touch anything on the u/v in stweak. no o/c as well. but the antutu score is so low 21000+, i thought it at least supposed to be 27000+?
i tried adam kernel, had the same result. is that normal? did i miss anything?
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With Omega / Perseus, is your camera still working????
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HassanM said:
With Omega / Perseus, is your camera still working????
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From recovery flash Perseus kernel + Camera Fix https://www.dropbox.com/s/20kyqg154h8w198/camera-ISP-fw.MEAplusFix.zip
Then reboot. Your camera should be working.

Low benchmark scores after franco kernel r33

i used to get around 32k in antutu and around 18k in quadrant before franco kernel r33 but now i am getting around 24k and 11k respectively i highlt doubt this is due to kernel (i didnt screw up anything (no custom roms nothing...)) can some confirm this ?? plzz

Why does it matter? Does the phone still run good? Can you notice any difference while using your phone normally?
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Kreateablaze said:
Why does it matter? Does the phone still run good? Can you notice any difference while using your phone normally?
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in practical sense the phone works perfect apps run smoothly and battery life is awesome (5-6hrs)...but theoritical sense why did the scores become less ?? did franco limit the processor speed or something??

Benchmarks scores Dont mean anything at all
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Benchmarks scores Dont mean anything at all
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sir , can u plz run antutu from ur phone (i.e if ur using franco kernel)? and tell me ur score i know this may sound childish and geeky whatever u call it but it is still important for me

roydondsa said:
in practical sense the phone works perfect apps run smoothly and battery life is awesome (5-6hrs)
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This bit is the only thing you should be caring about...
The 'score' is meaningless. Let it go, uninstall any benchmark apps and don't bother running a test ever again.
Put it this way...if you suddenly scored 234069823987693827469823764 after flashing a new kernel, but performance and battery actually got worse, which one would you prefer?

eddiehk6 said:
This bit is the only thing you should be caring about...
The 'score' is meaningless. Let it go, uninstall any benchmark apps and don't bother running a test ever again.
Put it this way...if you suddenly scored 234069823987693827469823764 after flashing a new kernel, but performance and battery actually got worse, which one would you prefer?
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ok sir just uninstalled antutu and other benchmarks

roydondsa said:
i used to get around 32k in antutu and around 18k in quadrant before franco kernel r33 but now i am getting around 24k and 11k respectively i highlt doubt this is due to kernel (i didnt screw up anything (no custom roms nothing...)) can some confirm this ?? plzz
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Hi,
Franciso explained that he had decreased the CPU temp limit before thermal throttling, that could explain your lower score (earlier thermal throttle)... Check also your max CPU freq.
Let cool down your phone before you run Antutu and see, or play with the thermal settings (raise a bit the CPU temp before thermal throttling, core also).
The user is in its right to know why he have a lower score in benches between two different version of a kernel, whatever if a bench is useful or useless... Obviously if all is smooth and run perfectly for you, it's the principal.

nexus 5 is high end device, benchmark score doesn't effect the performance of device using any kernel.
i never experience any lag on my nexus, i always get different score in antutu.

r32 I got around 32k with antutu now I get around 29k on r33 but battery life is so incredible I'm willing to sacrifice benchmark points useless in day to day use .... isn't benchmarking moslty about bragging?

thank you very much

only 18k score on antutu

i got only 18k score on antutu and officially it should be 25k any possible reason ?

many possible reasons. one is maybe you dont know how to bench properly(most people dont know how), but probably your cpu is warm when you are starting to bench and its hiiting the thermal throttle temp. at which point your phone reduces your cpu speed to cool off. this ends up reducing your scores. try cooling your cpu down first before bencing, and set your max and liw cpu speed to the same top speed.

simms22 said:
many possible reasons. one is maybe you dont know how to bench properly(most people dont know how), but probably your cpu is warm when you are starting to bench and its hiiting the thermal throttle temp. at which point your phone reduces your cpu speed to cool off. this ends up reducing your scores. try cooling your cpu down first before bencing, and set your max and liw cpu speed to the same top speed.
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Probably on 100% stock too lol..

Put phone in fridge to cool. Run benchmark in the fridge and BAM! score over 30000..lol.. always work for me. :laugh:

Something must be wrong with your device. Better see if you can get a replacement. Wouldn't want to see lower numbers.
I'm kidding
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davidstech11 said:
Something must be wrong with your device. Better see if you can get a replacement. Wouldn't want to see lower numbers.
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i let my device cool and switched to art and i got 25551 score is it due to art?
i bought it without warranty i cant get a replacement

25k is ok for a Stock Nexus 5 without any extra Mods ( eg. custom kernel + OC, root, disabled apps which lurk in the background etc.. ). My Nexus 5 can go up to 35k with my slightly optimized Stock ROM, custom kernel and OC @ 2,65Ghz.
Most the time I´ll reach 32k which still is ok but I don´t really care about benchmarks. If your phone is rooted, check with eg. ES Task Manager, which apps run most the time and try to disable stuff you don´t need.
If the phone runs hot for whatever reasons, you may notice the lower score but I have my doubts you would actually notice a performance decrease in real life while using the phone with regular apps ( eg. web browser, whatsapp etc.. )
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i let my device cool and switched to art and i got 25551 score is it due to art?
i bought it without warranty i cant get a replacement
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Got 29k stock, no root or unlocked, will see when i will get 4.4.3
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Gorgtech said:
25k is ok for a Stock Nexus 5 without any extra Mods ( eg. custom kernel + OC, root, disabled apps which lurk in the background etc.. ). My Nexus 5 can go up to 35k with my slightly optimized Stock ROM, custom kernel and OC @ 2,65Ghz.
Most the time I´ll reach 32k which still is ok but I don´t really care about benchmarks. If your phone is rooted, check with eg. ES Task Manager, which apps run most the time and try to disable stuff you don´t need.
If the phone runs hot for whatever reasons, you may notice the lower score but I have my doubts you would actually notice a performance decrease in real life while using the phone with regular apps ( eg. web browser, whatsapp etc.. )
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Overclock less, it'll heat up less and get a better score. I get 39k without cooling at 2419MHz, past 40k if I were to cool.
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Gorgtech said:
25k is ok for a Stock Nexus 5 without any extra Mods ( eg. custom kernel + OC, root, disabled apps which lurk in the background etc.. ). My Nexus 5 can go up to 35k with my slightly optimized Stock ROM, custom kernel and OC @ 2,65Ghz.
Most the time I´ll reach 32k which still is ok but I don´t really care about benchmarks. If your phone is rooted, check with eg. ES Task Manager, which apps run most the time and try to disable stuff you don´t need.
If the phone runs hot for whatever reasons, you may notice the lower score but I have my doubts you would actually notice a performance decrease in real life while using the phone with regular apps ( eg. web browser, whatsapp etc.. )
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which kernel do u use?

I use Elemental X : http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/orig-development/kernel-elementalx-n5-0-23-t2519607
I don´t use any extra options ( eg. the wake gestures ), only the slightly cooler color Mod because my screen has a slight yellowish tint without it:good:
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which kernel do u use?
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