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I have a strange problem with my Hero that is hard to describe. Even before I rooted my phone I had this problem which leads me to believe it could possibly be a hardware malfunction. Anyways..
The problem is that over time after a complete wipe and flash of a custom rom (I've tried several) that my phones slowly deteriorates. It will be running fast and great for a week or two and then its starts to slow down to the point where it is completely unusable and I am forced to wipe and flash again. While its acting this way I have tried killings tasks, emptying cache, hard resets... every simple solution I can think of....
The other odd thing is that I use my phone very lightly. I only install 4-6 apps and those are the basics like pandora and such...
And I'd like to add that maybe I'm wrong about my phone acted this way when I had 1.6 official on it. It's been awhile.... so maybe I corrupted something when I rooted my phone for the first time?
Really I wish you could see the way my phone acts... its ridiculous . I would take a youtube video of it if I wasnt too lazy too. Crazy stuff like it taking a whole 30 seconds to a minute for a unlock pattern to finally go through, Or how when I try and type a phone number its like 3 or 4 presses "behind" as I type ( and im not typing quickly) or when I try to scroll through my contact list it just gets stuck and then finally it "catches up" and stutters all the way down to the bottom because of how many swipes I attempted.....
...help

have you tried.....?
Have you tried to run an RUU of eith 1.6 or 2.1? if you runn an RUU it will clear out any lerking "software" issues and then just re-root and try that out then try a custom rom after that.

Try Autokiller from the market. Once you install it, run it. Set the autokiller settings to something like Optimum or Strict (if that doesn't work for you, try Aggressive).
This will adjust the low memory killer settings to a more aggressive number. This, hopefully, will help.
smash58 said:
I have a strange problem with my Hero that is hard to describe. Even before I rooted my phone I had this problem which leads me to believe it could possibly be a hardware malfunction. Anyways..
The problem is that over time after a complete wipe and flash of a custom rom (I've tried several) that my phones slowly deteriorates. It will be running fast and great for a week or two and then its starts to slow down to the point where it is completely unusable and I am forced to wipe and flash again. While its acting this way I have tried killings tasks, emptying cache, hard resets... every simple solution I can think of....
The other odd thing is that I use my phone very lightly. I only install 4-6 apps and those are the basics like pandora and such...
And I'd like to add that maybe I'm wrong about my phone acted this way when I had 1.6 official on it. It's been awhile.... so maybe I corrupted something when I rooted my phone for the first time?
Really I wish you could see the way my phone acts... its ridiculous . I would take a youtube video of it if I wasnt too lazy too. Crazy stuff like it taking a whole 30 seconds to a minute for a unlock pattern to finally go through, Or how when I try and type a phone number its like 3 or 4 presses "behind" as I type ( and im not typing quickly) or when I try to scroll through my contact list it just gets stuck and then finally it "catches up" and stutters all the way down to the bottom because of how many swipes I attempted.....
...help
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tkirton said:
Try Autokiller from the market. Once you install it, run it. Set the autokiller settings to something like Optimum or Strict (if that doesn't work for you, try Aggressive).
This will adjust the low memory killer settings to a more aggressive number. This, hopefully, will help.
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I agree. I use auto killer on aggressive with CM6 and it runs great forever

My phone does the exact same thing!
I first really noticed it when I flashed the official sprint 2.1 update. I think it has something to do with the buildup of cache on the phone.
I have been running CM6 for a little over a month and have recently noticed it getting slightly hung up at times, but nothing compared to how it was with the official 2.1 update. Also, remember that CM6 does not have Sense, which can really slow down the phone.
I also I agree with you that it seemed like my phone did not do this on 1.6, but it has been quite sometime since I flashed 2.1.
Does anyone know what really causes this exponential slow down; to the point where the phone is barely useable?

hm... I will try autokiller.....thanks for the advice
as for CM6..... I've tried not using sense UI but to me its my favorite part of my phone... for example the facebook/twitter/flickr integration with my contact list is invaluable.... is there a replacement for this?
is anyone else able to add anything else?

smash58 said:
hm... I will try autokiller.....thanks for the advice
as for CM6..... I've tried not using sense UI but to me its my favorite part of my phone... for example the facebook/twitter/flickr integration with my contact list is invaluable.... is there a replacement for this?
is anyone else able to add anything else?
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Try Zen-Rom. It has all that you are looking for and is very fast and stable.
Sent from my Zen-Rom Hero!

Auto killer is the way to go. I found Aggressive setting too much for my tastes; if I was on a webpage, then went to the home screen for something else and opened back up the browser, it would have to reload it because it was killed. I set it on optimum, and get no slow down, and can still truly multi task.

chefthomas99 said:
Try Zen-Rom. It has all that you are looking for and is very fast and stable.
Sent from my Zen-Rom Hero!
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Or NFX-Hero. I'm not a Sense guy, but I've experimented with that ROM, and it was the fastest Sense 2.1 IMO.

Just curious but does pandora have a cache file on your sdcard? I had an app that was reading and writting to a cache on my sdcard and it would slow my phone down a lot. When your phone slows try ditching some of your apps and see if maybe one could be responsible for it, if it is there are tons of options different apps that do the same thing.

LauncherPro not staying in memory

Hi all, just got a TB and rooted it yesterday. It was one of the first things I did when I got my phone, so I can't say that this wasn't an issue beforehand, but it seems like LauncherPro isn't staying in memory. Every now and then, when I press the home screen, it will ask me whether to use HTC Sense or LauncherPro. This will keep occuring at random, even after I've checked to use LauncherPro by default. Is anyone else having this problem? Know a quick fix?

Nobody else experiencing this?

there's an option in launcherpro's general settings 'keep in memory'. have you tried that yet? are you using some sort of app-killer (like advanced task manager or ES)? is launcherpro ignored in that?
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Ah, sorry, should have clarified. Yes, I have the keep in memory already checked and I am not using any sort of app killer unless there is a stock app killer that I don't know about.

ok, then. in the phone's settings menu, go to applications/manage applications, find launcherpro. is it selected to launch by default?
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No defaults set, which is why I assume the settings aren't sticking. Should I just force stop, clear data, uninstall, reinstall to see if that works? Or do you know a nifty way to set it to the default launcher.

raphytaffy said:
No defaults set, which is why I assume the settings aren't sticking. Should I just force stop, clear data, uninstall, reinstall to see if that works? Or do you know a nifty way to set it to the default launcher.
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you could do what I did, and use Titanium to remove HTC Sense from the phone. No point in having it if your going to use a different launcher.

Haven't checked yet, but is removing HTC Sense one of the safe removable apps? Were you having the same issues as I was or did you just remove it because you didn't use it?

i don't recommend uninstalling sense. i know, launcherpro is good and all, but it's still a third party software, and if something goes wrong, you're left with no launcher, and that kind of sucks... and no, i don't know any way to make it default (other that choosing from the list when it pops up). but reinstalling might help!
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raphytaffy said:
Haven't checked yet, but is removing HTC Sense one of the safe removable apps? Were you having the same issues as I was or did you just remove it because you didn't use it?
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i am running das bamf and removed every bit of sense I could get my hands on immediatly as I like what they did with the rom but hate sense. I also installed launcher pro right away and deleted sense.
I have never had launcher pro end up at a point where I couldn't use it anyone. I did this for 2 months on my evo 4g, and will continue to do so.

Just stuck to the tried and true method of clearing data. LauncherPro seems to be sticking now. Thanks for all the replies!

Ah, spoke a little bit too soon. Doesn't seem to be sticking any longer. When I rooted, the process went very smoothly and all root apps that I have run with no problems.
I'm just wondering if there's any way that rooting may have affected LP since no other users seem to be having this problem.

Bumping this.

raphytaffy said:
Ah, spoke a little bit too soon. Doesn't seem to be sticking any longer. When I rooted, the process went very smoothly and all root apps that I have run with no problems.
I'm just wondering if there's any way that rooting may have affected LP since no other users seem to be having this problem.
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I have had this very same problem since day 1 with my T-Bolt, and it's driving me crazy. I have not rooted yet, so rooting has nothing to do with it... just so you know...
Like with your's, I get that nasty launcher selection popup randomly; and if I exit from any streaming app or music app, it pops up EVERYsingle time the HOME key is pressed.
It also happens with ADW in exactly the same way as LauncherPro, so I would bet it happens with any launcher that is not Sense.
What have I done to fix it?
1. I have uninstalled / re-installed LauncherPro (and ADW), with no luck.
2. Just in case it was a conflict of Google restoring what I had on my Incredible to my T-Bolt, I uninstalled every uninstallable app I could, and then waited over night for Google to do it's backup ( to create a blank backup), and then did a hard reset the next morning, with no luck.
3. In Settings>Privacy, I unchecked the "Back Up My Settings" box and discovered that a window pops up that says, "Are you sure you want to stop backing up your settings and application data AND ERASE ALL COPIES ON GOOGLE SERVERS?" When I saw that, I saw no need to do the overnight thing and did this repeatedly with hard resets - all this WITH NO LUCK.
4. As a last resort, I took my T-Bolt back to Best Buy (thinking that maybe something went wrong in the provisioning process during activation), and they reactivated my T-Bolt with a new SIM card. Once again, NO LUCK.
I don't know what the heck is going on with it. Maybe it's a rogue app that's conflicting with the T-Bolt. I don't know. What I do know is that there is no problem if I'm using Sense, but I don't like Sense and refuse to use it, so I'm stuck with that darned popup.
I thought that rooting and using a different ROM altogether would get rid of the problem. Have you tried flashing a different ROM?
We have got to find out what's causing this, or at least a good workaround.

djkeller3 said:
I thought that rooting and using a different ROM altogether would get rid of the problem. Have you tried flashing a different ROM?
We have got to find out what's causing this, or at least a good workaround.
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Thanks for the reply. Puts my mind at ease knowing that I'm not the only one with the issue and also helps to know that you're experiencing this on an unrooted phone. I have not tried flashing any custom ROMs yet, so perhaps the people who have flashed a ROM can report back on whether LP is acting up on their phones.
I hope it's as simple as LP needing to be updated for TB.

Had this same problem myself... Download an app called HomeSmack from the market. It is free and allows you to switch between Sense and launcherpro easily. Have not had the issue since. Also I can easily switch back to my sense home screen and vice verse without a set-up every time.
Hope this helps

Memnoch73 said:
Had this same problem myself... Download an app called HomeSmack from the market. It is free and allows you to switch between Sense and launcherpro easily. Have not had the issue since. Also I can easily switch back to my sense home screen and vice verse without a set-up every time.
Hope this helps
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Yeah, I forgot to mention that neat little app - Homesmack. I like it. It's the only way I was able to actually get to LauncherPro from Sense. Without it, for me LauncherPro was simply a *download* that I could not access.
However, it did nothing to keep LauncherPro in memory. It does allow you to clear data from Sense and actually kill it momentarily; but once you get back into LauncherPro (or ADW), the problem simply repeats itself on my T-Bolt.

raphytaffy said:
Thanks for the reply. Puts my mind at ease knowing that I'm not the only one with the issue and also helps to know that you're experiencing this on an unrooted phone. I have not tried flashing any custom ROMs yet, so perhaps the people who have flashed a ROM can report back on whether LP is acting up on their phones.
I hope it's as simple as LP needing to be updated for TB.
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If I have time, I'm gonna root my T-Bolt this weekend. And then I will immediately flash a ROM - ANY ROM - to see if this works.
From what I'm gathering with regards to the T-Bolt... there are lots of bugs with this phone; however, not all T-Bolts share the same problems, and some are way more common than others. My T-Bolt is, for the most part, flawless; except for the launcher staying in memory. My wife has the headphone jack problem with hers... not everyone is experiencing that, but there are a batch of T-Bolts with faulty headphone jacks. Guess that's what we get for being early adopters. What the heck though, every other 4G phone that comes out will have flaws too. If people are expecting these phones to be fully *worked out*, they should wait and upgrade to 4G next year.
In the meantime, I've found that hitting the *back* key instead of the *home* key bypasses the launcher pop-up selector altogether. It can't be relied on completely because there are some apps you can't get out of without hitting the HOME key.

btw, my coworker has a tb and has this issue of the launcher pro constantly asking to be the default launcher. looks like if you hold the home button to switch between tasks, it clears the default launcher setting. try not using the hold home to multitask function to see if that stops this from happening.

I can verify this behaviour, and it 100% reproducible. It 'forgets' the default launcher with 2 actions:
- Pull down the status bar notification.
- Long press home to switch apps.
It doesn't happen otherwise. I use Wave Launcher, and it doesn't affect the default launcher.
This only started happening this weekend. I have to go through the apps I added recently.
I'm not rooted.
Using Zeam launcher.

[Q] Multiple Issues with xt720

I am a new user of touchscreen and android phones, so I'm not sure if I'm just being picky with my issues, or if they can be fixed. But if anyone can help I'd really appreciate it.
1. My phone will randomly mute mid-conversation. I then have to re-enter my password and get back to the phone "app" to un-mute it.
2. When I'm using the camera, if I leave it long enough for the phone to go into sleep mode I can't get it to turn back on. The touch buttons are still highlighted at the bottom of the phone, but the screen is black. I can hear the phone beeping like it is turning back on, but get nothing on the display. I then have to take out the battery, wait for 30-60 sec and then put it back in. Sometimes I have to do this repeatedly before it will start working again.
3. When I try to update the OS in Settings I keep getting the message that the phone cannot connect to the server. However, I have not other problems connecting to any other sites.
4. I added the facebook app and want to remove it now. I have gone into settings > applications and "uninstalled" it. However, the icon is still on my homepage and I can't seem to remove it. When I hold my finger on it a trash bin shows up below. But this only moves it to my apps page.
5. The phone is freezes pretty often. At least a couple times a day.
Ok, this is it for now. If anyone can help I'd really appreciate.
Thanks

I going to guess your still on 2.1 when was 2.1 stock the was way too touchy. The light goes out and you can't get to turn on unless battery pull this a issue found on 2.1 their a 2.2 update coming in late July. Update this on all this option will not work xt720 it not ota compatible so your settings area will not work . Be patient wait for Cincinnati bell update and if your not with them I intend to leak it.
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As much as I'm liking my return to 2.1, it does indeed freeze up often, as I recall it did when I first got the phone. (the whole screen goes black, lights on bottom turn on thing)
Facebook app is a stock app and can't be removed unless your rooted.
Never had the mute issue.
The cannot connect to server thing I have had. But it's irrelevant as there shouldn't be any updates to get anyways.

Is updating the OS the best way to improve the performace of my phone? or should I still do the overclocking. If you advise to do the overclocking, should I wait untill I update the OS, or do it now?

There is no update to the OS, except for one that just overclocks from 550 to 720mhz. Chances are you already have that though. I do think that overclocking is a good idea if you want to increase the speed of your phone obviously. 1Ghz is nice and stable.
EDIT: Or do you mean update as in install one of the 2.2 ROMs from here?

I think Queenmantis's problem are related to the original Home app. try some Launcher apps such as Launcher Pro.
for now, my favorite is GoLauncher EX, with the latest update last week, that app totally rock. you guys should try.
I really love Dexter's 2.2, but the short battery life keeps bugging me so I've already went back to 2.1 since last week. I've got no modification except Milestone Overclock + App2Card 2.8.2. Eclair is still so sweet.

Hi I have bluesteel I have modified it some and would put up against any of 2.2 or 2.1 my numbers. Startup 65 memory and regular memory is 70 to 88 program memory and don't freeze and no lag.
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Wait for CBW's update if you don't want to root.. If you're open to the idea of rooting your phone, then go ahead and update to Dexter's 2.2, save yourself the headache, then flash one of Khalpowers' ROMs, that should fix you up real good, there's always the option of going back to stock of you don't like the results, or go back to the "official 2.2" from CBW once it's available. But that's just me..

Queenmantis said:
I am a new user of touchscreen and android phones, so I'm not sure if I'm just being picky with my issues, or if they can be fixed. But if anyone can help I'd really appreciate it.
1. My phone will randomly mute mid-conversation. I then have to re-enter my password and get back to the phone "app" to un-mute it.
2. When I'm using the camera, if I leave it long enough for the phone to go into sleep mode I can't get it to turn back on. The touch buttons are still highlighted at the bottom of the phone, but the screen is black. I can hear the phone beeping like it is turning back on, but get nothing on the display. I then have to take out the battery, wait for 30-60 sec and then put it back in. Sometimes I have to do this repeatedly before it will start working again.
3. When I try to update the OS in Settings I keep getting the message that the phone cannot connect to the server. However, I have not other problems connecting to any other sites.
4. I added the facebook app and want to remove it now. I have gone into settings > applications and "uninstalled" it. However, the icon is still on my homepage and I can't seem to remove it. When I hold my finger on it a trash bin shows up below. But this only moves it to my apps page.
5. The phone is freezes pretty often. At least a couple times a day.
Ok, this is it for now. If anyone can help I'd really appreciate.
Thanks
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1. Maybe the Proximity sensor for auto turn-off has problems, when you are using the phone, the backlight turn-on and your face or your ear touch the surface and it mute.
2. Obviously this is a hardware problem, you should bring your phone to where you buy it to check.
3. I have the same problem, but I think this is not our phones' fault. Motorola seems not to support this phone anymore.
4. Facebook is considered to be a system app on this phone, you can not remove it. The app call facebook you installed on the phone, just the update of the original facebook app. Don't worry about that.
5. This maybe is relevant with the problem you have in the number 2 - a hardware problem.
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Please forgive if there is something wrong above. I'm willing to listen and learn.
thank you

spiderx_mm said:
I think Queenmantis's problem are related to the original Home app. try some Launcher apps such as Launcher Pro.
for now, my favorite is GoLauncher EX, with the latest update last week, that app totally rock. you guys should try.
I really love Dexter's 2.2, but the short battery life keeps bugging me so I've already went back to 2.1 since last week. I've got no modification except Milestone Overclock + App2Card 2.8.2. Eclair is still so sweet.
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May you show me how to install App2Card 2.8.2 on Eclair. I try but i failed. What should I know first to do this.

Any news on how you did..?
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CrystalShield said:
May you show me how to install App2Card 2.8.2 on Eclair. I try but i failed. What should I know first to do this.
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I think most important part of App2Card is partitioning of SD card. I had tried the partitioning tool in App2Card but it never fail to fail . So I partitioned my card as below and I use "Parted" software inside Ubuntu. My SD card is Sandisk 8GB SDHC Class6 card.
1st Partition - FAT32 (7.2 GB)
2nd Partition - EXT3 (512 Mb)
3rd Partition - SWAP (256 Mb)
Create one partition at a time. Don't create everything in one batch.
Then, the card should be ready to use.
now come with the App2Card. Open the app, make sure u grant root access and all, make sure the app detect the card. then close it again. (that might be the trick). And open it again. Just do open and close till the "What's New" pop-up never show up. It might be two or three times. Then click "Install EXT/Transfer apps to EXT" button.
it will install, make the phone reboot and configure.
after the phone is rebooted, open the App2Card to make sure it show no error message. If there's any error message, just try to reboot the phone. It will surely work.

[Q] Out of Memory

Stock, unrooted, still locked, as it came from the factory One S:
Do you ever find that when you close an app and go back to the launcher (Rosie), Rosie has been purged from memory and needs to reload? Takes about 10 seconds with the "loading" animation before you can do anything. Pretty poor really for a standard setup. Will be rooting at the weekend, but any other tips to stop this happening?

kuroneko007 said:
Stock, unrooted, still locked, as it came from the factory One S:
Do you ever find that when you close an app and go back to the launcher (Rosie), Rosie has been purged from memory and needs to reload? Takes about 10 seconds with the "loading" animation before you can do anything. Pretty poor really for a standard setup. Will be rooting at the weekend, but any other tips to stop this happening?
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setting-power untick fastboot

Yes I have also seen this a few times, especially if I had a lot of tabs open in the browser then go back to the home screen.

the only time i got this, was when i was disabling bloatware apps in settings

speaking of memory, I have total memory of 701160kb, with 34684kb free according to vellamo system info. is this correct? I thought we should have 1GB of ram??

The system always allocates a certain amount for normal operating

unclespoon said:
The system always allocates a certain amount for normal operating
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exactly what i also thought, but presumed when it says total it included the system usage.

kuroneko007 said:
Stock, unrooted, still locked, as it came from the factory One S:
Do you ever find that when you close an app and go back to the launcher (Rosie), Rosie has been purged from memory and needs to reload? Takes about 10 seconds with the "loading" animation before you can do anything. Pretty poor really for a standard setup. Will be rooting at the weekend, but any other tips to stop this happening?
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Without a proper analysis of what happened, It's quite difficult to say if this is a right behaviour of Android. Android handles the memory itself, because it is based on JAVA. When an application needs more memory, Android tries to allocate to it, sometimes this could mean taking away the memory of Rosie (homescreen) if it is needed.
This could happen regardless how many memory you have. In theory if you run a lot of apps at the same time without closing them, Android may do so. So no need to worry if this was what happened to you. However, if it happens a lot even if you don't have big apps running at background, it may indicate something is not quite right. I don't know what it would be cos this is IMO at the software level so should happen to everyone and be a potential bug.
Rooting the phone and removing bloatware may be benefitial cos you get rid of lots of annoying background tasks which take x amount of memory.

Im also having this problem.
I tryed close all apps, now its 618 used and 67 mb free.
In the list (under apps - running) only few apps are listed, and they make only total of ~95mb, where are other 500 used?
After reboot +- same apps showed, only using 100mb and toatly 350used 340free...

What kind of phones do you guys have? Branded and locked by operator?
Sent from my HTC One S using XDA

[Q] So much lag, all the time

Alright I'm pretty fed up with this phone. I've had it for a year now, having probably 4 of them now due to replacements (GPS problems, static phone call problems, etc.) that Verizon has replaced. The same problem I have had on ALL of the Samsung Charges I have had is terrible terrible general lag, especially with the keyboard.
I have to restart my phone at least 6 times daily just to be able to use it, if I don't it lags so much I can "click" on an app just like the web browser and it will take 15 seconds to load up, same for messaging etc. It's mostly noticeable with messaging where I can start up the messaging app and click on a text message and it will take 20 seconds to load, then I click on the text entry box and the keyboard doesn't show up for another 20 seconds and from there each key I press only happens seconds after I type them, not instantly like it should be.
Things I have tried:
- Task killer apps to free up memory
- Cache cleanup apps
- Resetting the phone to factory defaults (this has happened on EVERY charge I have received so it doesn't seem to be local to my specific phone at least)
- Erasing the SD card / using the phone w/o a SD card
- New keyboard apps
- Updating (has been like this through various versions of android)
Things I'm getting close to trying:
- Throwing my phone at a wall
- Running over my phone with my car
- Hitting my phone with a bat
- Using my phone as a lightning rod
When I clear the memory (usually at around 320/373 MB being used) it only goes down to around 270/373 MB being used. I barely have any apps installed apart from the default phone apps. My phone is using that much memory even a minute after restarting it, doing so only fixed the problem for the short while before it starts up again. It happens directly after a factory reset as well so it's not like I have any super big apps I downloaded that are causing it.
My keyboard process actually hangs at times and errors leaving me with no keyboard at all until I restart my phone:
"The application Samsung keypad (process com.sec.android.inputmethod.axt9) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again."
It's seriously pathetic, I used to have the Droid X, Incredible, etc. and never had any problems like I have with this phone. I would rather have my old Env touch back with just general web browsing, at least it could text without erroring.
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

How about flashing it with a different ROM?

haza12d said:
How about flashing it with a different ROM?
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Not really into the whole doing things that can brick the phone, if I do that I'm stuck with it and Verizon won't take it back because I did "fowl play" things.

Unfortunately this phone is horrible stock, but fortunately flashing another ROM is super easy. Also it's pretty hard to brick this phone. And if you did is also pretty easy to fix it back to stock. This phone really is pretty amazing with a custom ROM
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toups5 said:
Not really into the whole doing things that can brick the phone, if I do that I'm stuck with it and Verizon won't take it back because I did "fowl play" things.
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No guts no glory. Or usable phone, in this case.
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toups5 said:
Not really into the whole doing things that can brick the phone, if I do that I'm stuck with it and Verizon won't take it back because I did "fowl play" things.
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Custom rom is definitely the way to go. There are plenty of places to look and read to get an idea of what you're doing and there is almost always step by step instructions. It makes a world of difference and is like a new phone when you're done. Read up on Tweaked 2.0 and the custom FP1 (PBJ) kernel. And if something goes wrong there are plenty more places and people that can help you get it back to stock so that Verizon will be none the wiser that any "fowl play" was involved. Not difficult at all (if you follow the instructions exactly) and is WELL worth it. As KV said: "No guts, no glory"

toups5 said:
Not really into the whole doing things that can brick the phone, if I do that I'm stuck with it and Verizon won't take it back because I did "fowl play" things.
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Just root it then and remove the Verizon bloat. Stock rooted runs well without all of the useless crap.
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Get a different phone. The problem seems to be between you and the Charge!

Stock works really well since FP1. My only major complaint is the camera on the replacement I have doesn't focus worth a damn!

Gotta agree with the guys here.
Root and ROM, bro. The Charge, otherwise, blows.
I would do Tweak2.0, but debloated stock FP1 would be great too.
The Charge is a great phone with proper software. Software seriously makes it or breaks it.
There are plenty of us on the forums to give advice if you get stuck.
Some tips on flashing the Charge:
I use Odin 1.85
Run Odin as Administrator is Windows 7 or Vista
Remove SIM before flashing
PUT BATTERY IN before flashing
Use a USB port on the back of the computer (not the front ones)
Use the OEM USB cable
Download your ROM file with Getright or verify MD5 checksum
BACKUP any info (your contacts should be synced with Google)
Format SD card (before you Odin a ROM ) as FAT32 with 32K size (you don't have to format, but I do)-- note that you can format the sdcard with Windows with the sdcard in the phone if you have mass storage on
NEVER, EVER use the phone button in Odin, you MUST use PDA
Be patient when flashing, it seems to take 7 minutes or so.
Be patient on first first, it has to build Dalvik cache, etc.
If you need help, ask!

xdadevnube said:
If you need help, search!
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Fixed that for you.
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if you suspect the keyboard app could be the issue, have you tried another one, or tweaking your keyboard settings? I use ICS keyboard - works great for me. sounds like there could be a conflict somewhere in there..

jco23 said:
if you suspect the keyboard app could be the issue, have you tried another one, or tweaking your keyboard settings? I use ICS keyboard - works great for me. sounds like there could be a conflict somewhere in there..
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yeah I tried that..
Got too fed up last night I flashed it, used this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1406951
It is much faster however still not perfect w/ messaging (the main problem as its what I use the most and therefore notice it the most on), still takes some time for the messaging app to load up and additional time to load each thread and then time to load the keyboard once in a thread.
Also if anyone knows that flash and knows the answer to these new questions that would be great, have tried searching...
- When using speech to text on the new keyboard I get an error "Could not connect" to the microphone instead of getting the usual "Speak Now"... persists through restarting
- Can you still screenshot with the charge on this flash? Used to be back + home button, no longer works. (found people talking about "Tweaktools" but found nothing of what they are, where to get them etc. )

About your last one - go to Terminal Emulator (may have to download from play store) type su, press enter, type tweaktools, press enter. I personally would recommend getting something like ShootMe as the stock service isn't very reliable (back button and home have issues)
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I'm running Eclipse 2.0 and it's hands down the best phone I've ever owned. Although this is the first phone I ROM'ed...