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Hi Guys
I am facing a problem with HTC widgets. The problem is that the widgets keep reloading their content frequently
So as i flip through the 5 pages of widgets (mail, people, calendar, news, etc), the contacts in the people widget or the appointments in the calendar widget for example would disappear and the widget would reload them within 5 seconds
I never faced this problem with my desire HD, I dont know but it looks like a memory shortage/allocation problem that is leading to sense clearing whats held in RAM for those widgets.
Has anyone faced this before ? looks like sense 3.0 is still highly unoptimized from a memory usage perspective. On top of this, my desire HD used to fly as compared to the Sensation, Dual core my Ass.................
This happens for me as well but I never considered it a problem. It seems to me that the widgets actually don't update all the time and instead are updating On-demand so the first time you scroll to it in, an __- hour period (I'm not sure how long the time frame is) it takes a few seconds to populate the widget.
I figured it was a battery saver and didn't don't mind it.
I do get a weird text jump back and forth between contact name/contact number in the text messaging widget though and it happens pretty frequently.
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BonesRed said:
This happens for me as well but I never considered it a problem. It seems to me that the widgets actually don't update all the time and instead are updating On-demand so the first time you scroll to it in, an __- hour period (I'm not sure how long the time frame is) it takes a few seconds to populate the widget.
I figured it was a battery saver and didn't don't mind it.
I do get a weird text jump back and forth between contact name/contact number in the text messaging widget though and it happens pretty frequently.
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Hi BonesRed
does not seem to be an update problem, since not only the friend stream widget does that, but also the contacts/calendar widget
This never happened with the desire HD, and whenever data is being reloaded, the old data is kept displayed until updated with the new data
Apparently the native widgets work good for me, but other ones like pandora, soundhound etc. have pixel glitches, see pic, sometimes only 1 widget sometimes the whole screen.... don't know if anybody else has the same problem and don't know if I should exchange my sensation.
I have the same pixel problem with my Google search bar widget
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My widget content will reload but only after a considerable amount of time without use. After the initial load, flipping through pages has no reloads until it's been in my pocket for awhile again.
puiutzuusa said:
Apparently the native widgets work good for me, but other ones like pandora, soundhound etc. have pixel glitches, see pic, sometimes only 1 widget sometimes the whole screen.... don't know if anybody else has the same problem and don't know if I should exchange my sensation.
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same for me
so, anybody has a solution or we're doomed?!?!?
Doomed.................................
that sucks, mean while the commercial goes on and on- the YOU phone"CAN GET EVERYTHING YOU WANT INSTANTLY"........ like what? if I'm not able to see my home screen...... hopefully an OTA will bring happiness and unlocked bootloader..... don't want to change too much on it, just tweak a little and get rid of bloatware..... HOPES UP HTC!!!
Castle5665 said:
My widget content will reload but only after a considerable amount of time without use. After the initial load, flipping through pages has no reloads until it's been in my pocket for awhile again.
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That never happened with the desire HD..............
I'm actually having the opposite provlem, at least with the friendstream widget. I can't get it to update. I've tried manually synching from the widget and from android settings menu but nothing seems to work, its still stuck on July 18th for some reason. Any one have any suggestions?
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My widgets are causing pixil glitches as well. Any ideas on what the cause is
BonesRed said:
I do get a weird text jump back and forth between contact name/contact number in the text messaging widget though and it happens pretty frequently.
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I experience the same thing. Also inside the messaging app itself sometimes the contact name is displayed and sometimes the contact number.
I have all the issues stated in the thread do far too. I love this phone but it's not as fast as they promote it to be and the pixel glitches only happen on my google search bar and market widget. hopefully they will get it figured out.
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In stock I used folders on my panels to organize the many apps I play with, its my first smartphone so i'm toying with all sorts of things. Recently I flashed Supreme Sense 9.1 (it pretty) and while redoing my setup I noticed an odd quirk with the folders.
I have a folder named Games
I link an app onto the panel
Then move said app to the folder
Open folder, see app, launch it
Play around a bit exit using home key
Usually i'm exiting in landscape mode
Taken to home panel, swipe over to my app panel
Folder is open, no apps showing within it
Anyone else? If they work for anyone else, i'll probably try reflashing. As a side note, is Sense 3.0 completely incapable of landscape think I read that here somewhere.
Dogan
Might try Mikshifted, read that executive is damn sexy too
Why all the extra steps . Sense 3.0 is now capable of Landscape. Apparently a Rom from the HTC Flyer Tablet has been ported over. The Executive Theme is Awesome. Only issue is that as of right now it has not been updated to work with MikShifted G v2.0 .
Yea like prboy said the HTC flyer ROM is here and it is awesome IMO. Im a flashaholic and ive stayed with it since its release to the shift
prboy1969 said:
Why all the extra steps .
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Cause I didn't know of another way and thats how I discovered it... first smartphone (smarter than me? )
prboy1969 said:
Sense 3.0 is now capable of Landscape. Apparently a Rom from the HTC Flyer Tablet has been ported over.
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Sweet, I'll look around for that. I'd like to see it in something other than a port, wondering if the Shift ROM dev's are considering adding it due to our keyboard ability.
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The Executive Theme is Awesome. Only issue is that as of right now it has not been updated to work with MikShifted G v2.0 .
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Which I will probably try out if/when it comes out.
If I am wrong about the folders, how so... perhaps its a procedural error (apparently I load folders counter-intuitively) that I can fix that would solve my problem or is it a bug/incorrect flash that i'm dealing with here?
Dogan
Thanks BTW.
BlGPAPA1321 said:
Yea like prboy said the HTC flyer ROM is here and it is awesome IMO. Im a flashaholic and ive stayed with it since its release to the shift
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Well I'm not all that about it
. I'm sure it's great I just cannot give an opinion as I have not tried it. Was just letting him know of the option .
Dogahn said:
Cause I didn't know of another way and thats how I discovered it... first smartphone (smarter than me? ) Sweet, I'll look around for that. I'd like to see it in something other than a port, wondering if the Shift ROM dev's are considering adding it due to our keyboard ability.Which I will probably try out if/when it comes out.
If I am wrong about the folders, how so... perhaps its a procedural error (apparently I load folders counter-intuitively) that I can fix that would solve my problem or is it a bug/incorrect flash that i'm dealing with here?
Dogan
Thanks BTW.
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If you want to make a shortcut to something just long press on the panel in the spot you want the item. When the pop up menu comes up choose a widget for the item if avaiable. Or choose the App itself, that's it.
TEAM MiK
Mik Roms Since 3/13/11
prboy1969 said:
If you want to make a shortcut to something just long press on the panel in the spot you want the item. When the pop up menu comes up choose a widget for the item if avaiable. Or choose the App itself, that's it.
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I get that part, I do that to get an app shortcut on the panel. Then I can move that shortcut into a folder. The reason I did this is, Should I have 6 panels full of widgets leaving 1 panel for applications. There are only, what 12 spots for application shortcuts? Now as a new guy in this wonderful world of handheld computing, I'm experimenting with all sorts of games and apps. I got a heck of a lot more than 12 and my apps list is huge making it a hassle to scroll the list. That is when I found the folder ability, where in stock I can put a folder onto the panel. I can then place the app shortcuts into this panel folder and open it... like a category.
Say I'm going to my phone to play around with some pictures I just took. I swipe over to my apps panel, click on the tools folder, choose from my selection of image editing apps that I put there. This to me is better than scrolling through 5+ pages of apps on the full list. Currently I can do all that (as I could in stock), but when I exit the application it empties the folder of app shortcuts. On top of that, the folder remains open and it seems clicking on the close folder X clicks behind it forcing me to hit a small sweet spot above the X that closes the folder on the panel. Brain screams Bug, but being new to all this thought perhaps it could be some lingering bit caused by an app data restore or bad/incomplete flash.
It seems we're not on the same panel. No worries, just thought i'd verify this seemingly odd behavior before I moved on. Thanks for taking the time and tackling all that code.
Dogan
Not ungrateful
Ok I think I'm getting what your trying to do now. Why don't you create a folder Shortcut on a panel. Then just move the app to that. That way the folder shortcut just open to a bunch of apps of you choosing. So theoretically you can have 12 Folders per panel.
Alright I think I have it figured out, but I don't know exactly why it does it because its not my ROM (I just enjoy using it). Seems to be a RAM issue, more specifically a RAM clearing/freeing system that causes it. Oddly, everytime I try to video the bug it doesn't do it or does something else entirely. Was extremely repeatable until then.
First time I tried to video it, the live wallpaper freaked out, compressed to 1/4 of the side and folder contents were retained. Second time, nothing happened and I'm not willing to take 30min of gameplay video to better test it. I don't think anyone has the time or care to test this right now, but next time you get a fresh Supreme Sense build and before you restore your backup put a large RAM intensive app on there and link a shortcut into a folder. Run the app and play for a while, pretty sure I'm doing 30 - 60min as I'm laying in bed prior to sleep. Exit app, go back to folder and the bug that I get shows up... Folder remains open, shortcuts are gone, folder is behind other shortcuts on that panel in terms of touching but on top of other shortcuts visually (I have google search bar on that panel on the top row, trying to close folder opens the voice search interface instead).
What clued me in, was juice defender's log claiming low ram and how juice defender was in danger of being killed automatically to free up ram. I'll test it out a few more times after extended play in the upcoming nights. There is a possibility that my recent install of Juice Defender solved it by denying background applications their usual access to data thus freeing up RAM.
BTW, flashed an ICS theme... Should call this combo Supreme Sexier 9.1
Dogan
This was a bug report written as a question cause noobs can't post in developer threads.
Dogahn said:
Alright I think I have it figured out, but I don't know exactly why it does it because its not my ROM (I just enjoy using it). Seems to be a RAM issue, more specifically a RAM clearing/freeing system that causes it. Oddly, everytime I try to video the bug it doesn't do it or does something else entirely. Was extremely repeatable until then.
First time I tried to video it, the live wallpaper freaked out, compressed to 1/4 of the side and folder contents were retained. Second time, nothing happened and I'm not willing to take 30min of gameplay video to better test it. I don't think anyone has the time or care to test this right now, but next time you get a fresh Supreme Sense build and before you restore your backup put a large RAM intensive app on there and link a shortcut into a folder. Run the app and play for a while, pretty sure I'm doing 30 - 60min as I'm laying in bed prior to sleep. Exit app, go back to folder and the bug that I get shows up... Folder remains open, shortcuts are gone, folder is behind other shortcuts on that panel in terms of touching but on top of other shortcuts visually (I have google search bar on that panel on the top row, trying to close folder opens the voice search interface instead).
What clued me in, was juice defender's log claiming low ram and how juice defender was in danger of being killed automatically to free up ram. I'll test it out a few more times after extended play in the upcoming nights. There is a possibility that my recent install of Juice Defender solved it by denying background applications their usual access to data thus freeing up RAM.
BTW, flashed an ICS theme... Should call this combo Supreme Sexier 9.1
Dogan
This was a bug report written as a question cause noobs can't post in developer threads.
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Ok so I have a few questions. You mentioned a Ram issue. Did you do a FULL Wipe, like the one mentioned in the link in my Sig? You also mentioned Restoring your backup. Did you mean that you restored Data with Titanium Backup, or a similar app? Because restoring Data for System Apps, and sometimes even Games. Has been known to cause issues, and glitches. Also, Juice Defender IMO causes more issues than anything else. IMO Task Killers in general are not a good idea. They usually use more memory than the save.
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Ok so I have a few questions. You mentioned a Ram issue. Did you do a FULL Wipe, like the one mentioned in the link in my Sig? You also mentioned Restoring your backup. Did you mean that you restored Data with Titanium Backup, or a similar app? Because restoring Data for System Apps, and sometimes even Games. Has been known to cause issues, and glitches. Also, Juice Defender IMO causes more issues than anything else. IMO Task Killers in general are not a good idea. They usually use more memory than the save.
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I did a full wipe after restoring from a nandroid backup
I followed the wipe&flash directions in the video linked in the supreme sense thread
They're a little different, only 1x each instead of 3x and without step 9 (reboot wipe cache & dalvik cache again)
Very likely it could have been while restoring with Titanium. Pretty sure that might have been what sunk Cyanomod since after a full restore via Titanium it locked up on reboot(waited 15min never got past loading screen). With SupremeSense I believe I selectively restored SMS, Contacts, App Data. Juice Defender was installed after the issue was noticed, it just gave me a log with info on what else was going on by chance. For now I think it is just me which is okay, although the backup causing issues is rather annoying.
Dogan
I need to do more app research
Do a Full Wipe according to the Guide. Then don't restore anything, drive it around for a few hours as is. See if any issues pop up. Then restore your items one by one, try not to restore any data. That way you'll be able to pinpoint the issue.
TEAM MiK
Mik Roms Since 3/13/11
It will probably be a while before I opt to chance losing everything again. So I figure I'll just thank you for your persistent assistance now and use the more thorough flashing followed by an extended break-in period before restoring with the next ROM that catches my eye.
Dogan
90% of my wants are met by SupremeSense 9.1
We'll at least till the next release of Supreme Sense
TEAM MiK
MikROMs Since 3/13/11
Went from a G2 to this One S yesterday. I'm not too impressed.
No dedicated menu button
There is enough room for one on the bottom but they only put 3.
What happens now is that Android (or Sense or something) detects when there are menu options and puts a button on the screen for it taking away real estate from the application.
No trackball
I used this a lot on my G2 especially on web pages with small links that I didn't want to missclick. I already miss it. I also used the trackball wake feature in CM on my G2. Now there is only one way to turn the screen on and its a little hard to do one handed. The trackball was in a very natural position to turn on with your thumb. Now without it, it is very awkward to power on with your thumb, you have to hold it very high and I'm affraid of dropping it. Alternatively I could turn it on with my index finger but it spreads my hand way out and still feels weird.
No folders
I'm not sure if this is an ICS thing or a Sense thing (because this phone is an unholy bastardization), but I can't figure out a way to create folders on my home screens. I'm not talking about the Sense folders for applications either. In normal Android builds you can add shortcuts, widgets, folders. The Pandora application shipped with a folder called "My Stations" or something like that. I used this because it only took up 1x1 on a homescreen and let me choose which station was opened. Without it, you need to open the application and it immediately starts playing the last radio station. This is annoying.
Resolution
The DPI isn't any better than my G2, its just a bigger screen. This is pretty disappointing. I would like a crisper display in a flagship device.
Bloat
Its pretty bad. I know most users want Facebook, Twitter, Dropbox, etc... but how about you let us select what we want during the phone setup.
Misc
This is my first Sense device and my first ICS device so again, not sure where this crap is coming from.... When you install an application it creates a shortcut for it on one of your home screens. Putting a shortcut is the simplist thing you can do in Android, why not leave it for the use to do if they want to do it.
On my way to work I was listening to I Heart Radio and while the live streams were okay when I went to the "pandora"-like functionality it would only play one song and then stop. This never happened on my G2. Don't know whats going on here.
I don't care for the browser (which they stupidly call "internet").
I don't care for all of the account options. I went to share a page in the browser, I wanted to email it to myself. So when I went to share page it let me select how to share it. I got "Facebook for HTC Sense", "Mail", "Twitter for HTC Sense", and "Dropbox". I did set up Facebook, but I did not set up mail, twitter, or dropbox. What I wanted was GMail which I had to select "See all..." Then I saw a plethora of garbage bloat that they bundle with the phone and had to scroll down to get to GMail. After I went though this experience I went to share another page to see if GMail showed up at the top... it didn't.
I'm sure I'll have more complaints the more I use it. I used my fiance's upgrade for this one but I get an upgrade in 3 months. If CM9 isn't out by then she'll be using this phone and I'll upgrade to a SGSIII or that yet to be named quad-core LG phone.
Summary
CM9 can't come fast enough.
EDIT
I'll add some good things here.
Good things
Again, this is coming from a G2 so in 2 years things should be better anyways....
It is very thin, and very light.
It has a front facing camera which my G2 did not.
The flashlight, though not as bright as the "High Brightness" Cyanogenmod setting on the G2, is still pretty bright.
The speaker seems to put out a lot of sound. Can't attest to the quality yet but the volume is there.
EDIT #2
Some more good and bad....
Skype Useless
... probably related to Wifi crackling. One of the things I was looking forward to with this phone was the ability to make video calls via Skype. My fiance has an iPad2, my in-laws each have a G2X, and my brother has a SGSII. Skype is useless on this device. There is echoing / cracking and video lag even when on Wifi. I called my brother with this One S and it was useless. I then called him on an iPad2 and it was great. I'm wondering if the problem has to do with Beats Audio. We'll have to wait for an AOSP ROM without Beats to find out.
So I unlocked/rooted/ROM'd ...
I am now running Black Dragon 4.0. I LOVE the menu hack to get rid of the stupid 3 dot menu on all the screens. I like that they kept the ability to longpress home to get the default behavior as well. The launcher seems nice though I haven't played with it too much (which is a good thing, means they have good defaults).
Can't wait for the kernel sources to be released so we can make some more CM9 progress. I really miss the buttons in the dropdown for wifi, brightness, bluetooth, etc. Now I have to dropdown, click settings, scroll down and find brighness.
How's the battery life? My G2 has some HORRENDOUS battery... like it can drain 20% an hour... I go to school for like 6/7 hours and I can leave with like a <20% battery life. Currently using MIUI because that seems to be the best battery life.
Edit: As for a menu button, Google is trying to get rid of that. I read a post about it a couple of months ago. They say it was useless. I completely disagree because I use it quite a lot. I use it way more than the search button which I have literally probably used less than 30 times and I've been on an Android device since the G1 came out.
For everything you just said mostly there are workarounds.
The deidcated menu button now exists through roms...the three button thing on screen is removed. Change of dpi works fine on no sense roms I'm set on 195 on sense not as good. Play market you can stop adding apps onto screens
Bloat just remove yourself root explorer..
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Battery lifes good also...
As I said workarounds exist
Also get a different launcher and ditch sense or just get Nova or apex
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Love this. G2 FOORRREEEVVVAAAAHHHH
.ili.music.ili. said:
How's the battery life? My G2 has some HORRENDOUS battery... like it can drain 20% an hour... I go to school for like 6/7 hours and I can leave with like a <20% battery life.
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I'm the wrong person to ask about battery life (at least during the week). I work in one of these new fancy energy efficient "Green" buildings. We have coating on our windows that block UV with the side effect of also blocking cellular signals. Everyone that works here puts their phones on airplane mode to save battery because we have 0 signal and the phone search all day.
I'll know better this weekend about battery life.
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For everything you just said mostly there are workarounds.
The deidcated menu button now exists through roms...the three button thing on screen is removed. Change of dpi works fine on no sense roms I'm set on 195 on sense not as good. Play market you can stop adding apps onto screens
Bloat just remove yourself root explorer..
Battery lifes good also...
As I said workarounds exist
Also get a different launcher and ditch sense or just get Nova or apex
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How did they implement the dedicated menu button?
How do I ditch Sense?... what is Nova / apex?
Do I need root to install another launcher?
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FunkyELF said:
How did they implement the dedicated menu button?
How do I ditch Sense?... what is Nova / apex?
Do I need root to install another launcher?
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no you can install launchers without root..from market just look for them
to ditch sense though you will need root..and to change dpi you will need root..my advice root lol
by ditching sense i mean install a non sense rom like black dragon or untouchables that strip sense away so the majority is ice cream sandwich without the bloatfest. some apps will be kept in but just use root explorer to rid the rom of it.
the dedicated menu button and ridding the screen of the three dots at the bottom is also because its been taken away and remapped by devs..so again..you need root
most of all..development will kick in soon..so better to root..or if not just use a different launcher but you dont really accomplish what your setting out to do
leedroid should be here soon with a rom,and will do away with most of the bloat anyway...so youll keep sense and most things you complained about will be sorted..
the main thing here is..root..worth it..yes..without..pointless and youll be stuck with htcs crap stock rom..pretty poor for me..but coming from another phone with loads of development..probably biased of how it should be
No Folders?
Just long-tap on the icon and drag it to another icon. THe folder will creat automaticly.
FunkyELF said:
Went from a G2 to this One S yesterday. I'm not too impressed.
No dedicated menu button
Root and ROM it. People are remapping the multitask key as the menu button, and hold-home now does the multitask. You're on XDA, so I assume you're enthused enough to root and ROM it.
No trackball
Seriously. Please find me an Android device with a trackball nowadays. It's gone...you're just gonna have to deal with it.
Resolution
This display seems pretty crisp. We're working with phones with relatively small displays. There's only so many pixels you can pack into until it doesn't even matter. 720p is about as far as we need to go on phone screens. The qHD screen on this phone has vivid colors and all the qualities of Super AMOLED. The resolution seems plenty high to me. Are you starting 1inch away from the phone and observing pixels?
Bloat
Welcome to flagship carrier devices. Again, you're on XDA, and fully capable of rooting it and removing all that crap. The G2 was a 1-off device that had pretty much stock Android. Consider it a Nexus device, more or less. With a flagship phone, you're going to get bloatware.
Misc
This is my first Sense device and my first ICS device so again, not sure where this crap is coming from.... When you install an application it creates a shortcut for it on one of your home screens. Putting a shortcut is the simplist thing you can do in Android, why not leave it for the use to do if they want to do it.
Sense has nothing to do with this. The new Google Play Store now by default places new apps' icons on the homescreen. It's as easy as going to the prefs in Play Store and disabling. Blame Google if you're going to blame someone.
On my way to work I was listening to I Heart Radio and while the live streams were okay when I went to the "pandora"-like functionality it would only play one song and then stop. This never happened on my G2. Don't know whats going on here.
Don't know what to tell you, but it's obvious that you're describing some sort of software issue, not a hardware issue. If it worked fine on the live streams, then your data connection worked. Talk to iHeartRadio.
I don't care for the browser (which they stupidly call "internet").
So install a new one! ICS Browser+ is exactly like the stock browser. There's also Chrome and Opera. Cmon...
I don't care for all of the account options. I went to share a page in the browser, I wanted to email it to myself. So when I went to share page it let me select how to share it. I got "Facebook for HTC Sense", "Mail", "Twitter for HTC Sense", and "Dropbox". I did set up Facebook, but I did not set up mail, twitter, or dropbox. What I wanted was GMail which I had to select "See all..." Then I saw a plethora of garbage bloat that they bundle with the phone and had to scroll down to get to GMail. After I went though this experience I went to share another page to see if GMail showed up at the top... it didn't.
This is the one thing I disliked and will agree with you on, although once again, rooting and ROMing can take care of it. That or removing bloatware.
I'm sure I'll have more complaints the more I use it. I used my fiance's upgrade for this one but I get an upgrade in 3 months. If CM9 isn't out by then she'll be using this phone and I'll upgrade to a SGSIII or that yet to be named quad-core LG phone.
Suit yourself. 4.7 inches is just too big, and at these speeds, you're at the mercy of your data connection, not the processor.
Summary
CM9 can't come fast enough.
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I think nearly all of your points are moot. A lot of your review seems to be based on your lack of willingness to change some preferences and MANAGE your device. If you were on a G2, then you never had to manage stuff like this. Consider it a new experience. If you wanted stock Android, you should've gotten a Galaxy Nexus. I just upgraded from a Nexus S and while I screamed at first at all the Sense crap, I quickly had it rooted, debloated, de-Sensed, and up and running with a nice, fast ROM (Black Magic 4.0).
Give it time. The phone JUST came out.
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I think nearly all of your points are moot. A lot of your review seems to be based on your lack of willingness to change some preferences and MANAGE your device. If you were on a G2, then you never had to manage stuff like this. Consider it a new experience. If you wanted stock Android, you should've gotten a Galaxy Nexus. I just upgraded from a Nexus S and while I screamed at first at all the Sense crap, I quickly had it rooted, debloated, de-Sensed, and up and running with a nice, fast ROM (Black Magic 4.0).
Give it time. The phone JUST came out.
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i agree with you there,its all about learning curves..no sense roms are fairly close to stock..its just the settings that are different now..he_stheone has already added certain elements of stock android..so its fairly close..just the settings..that are the main difference now.
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No Folders?
Just long-tap on the icon and drag it to another icon. THe folder will creat automaticly.
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Those aren't the folders I'm talking about. I think what I'm talking about are called live folders. In AOSP builds of Android when you long press on an empty space on one of your screens you can choose widgets, folders, shortcuts, contacts, and other things I can't remember.
With Sense you only get widgets and shortcuts.... no folders, no contacts, etc... just widgets and shortcuts.
Isn't that minor thing?
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nickmv said:
I just upgraded from a Nexus S and while I screamed at first at all the Sense crap, I quickly had it rooted, debloated, de-Sensed, and up and running with a nice, fast ROM (Black Magic 4.0).
Give it time. The phone JUST came out.
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I didn't see this one listed in the ALL ROMS post here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1584163
Where is the info on that ROM?
Dude its in development section
Black dragon 4.0
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nickmv said:
I think nearly all of your points are moot. A lot of your review seems to be based on your lack of willingness to change some preferences and MANAGE your device. If you were on a G2, then you never had to manage stuff like this. Consider it a new experience. If you wanted stock Android, you should've gotten a Galaxy Nexus. I just upgraded from a Nexus S and while I screamed at first at all the Sense crap, I quickly had it rooted, debloated, de-Sensed, and up and running with a nice, fast ROM (Black Magic 4.0).
Give it time. The phone JUST came out.
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Going to have to side with you on this one. This phone is definitly a great device, give it some time, dig in a little bit. Much better than my Tmo-SGS2.
most of things you mentioned isnt a "bad thing" just you dont know how to operate the phone, or its just different (opinion at that point).
Also you didnt like things which are for all devices, not just one S
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Those aren't the folders I'm talking about. I think what I'm talking about are called live folders. In AOSP builds of Android when you long press on an empty space on one of your screens you can choose widgets, folders, shortcuts, contacts, and other things I can't remember.
With Sense you only get widgets and shortcuts.... no folders, no contacts, etc... just widgets and shortcuts.
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The long press, dragging and combining of icons together is AOSP folders in Ice Cream Sandwich. The long press on the desktop to add folder is long gone and is not coming back.
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Dude its in development section
Black dragon 4.0
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Sorry... you said Black Magic, not Black dragon.
I'll give it a try in a couple weeks. I like to use my phone a bit before rooting to make sure I didn't get a lemon.
Does the camera work on this one?
Just got the phone and here are my negatives:
1. With lowest brightness setting the screen is horrible (but if you increase it a bit, its ok)
2. No switches in pulldown menu ? I though Sense always had that.....
3. Bottom plastic is not 100% flush at one corner (maybe will exchange, maybe not)
4. In navigation I just couldnt find "setting" button anywhere.....whats up with that ?
gonna go to Verizon and compare to Nexus....I still need Tmo SIM and stores are in same place anyway....I am not a phone freak not wasting time here
Its also very true that until you have 2 devices in hand you cant really compare screen quality...I though my G2x IPS panel for super great, but compared to One S its very warm colored and whites have red tint. Its also hard to use in lowest brightness even in dark room....but with G2x case its because screen is simply too dark, with One S its bright but disgusting to look at due to some "noise"
Facebook Home App is available For Android Device
I tested it And works fine but takes more time to load the home screen
http://www.teamandroid.com/2013/04/08/facebook-home-apk-how-to-install/
Smokinggun said:
Facebook Home App is available For Android Device
I tested it And works fine but takes more time to load the home screen
http://www.teamandroid.com/2013/04/08/facebook-home-apk-how-to-install/
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If it really works and does the things it was designed for, I will never, never install this.
Would be the final surrender and is a perversion of Android.
This does not work for me. I uninstalled FB and FB messenger, installed the 3 APKs found on that site. Logged in to FB and FB Messenger but there is no "Enable Facebook Home" option in the FB app settings. If i choose to use the FB Home launcher, i get a black background with the little circle icon with my FB display picture in it.
the resolution on our phone is 1280x800 is it not? that website lists the max res that is compatible as 1280x768.
Edit: This is on a Samsung JB DXLSE rom, maybe you will get a different result on a non-touchwiz rom
Worked for me... and I uninstalled it just 3 minutes ago Just wanted to see whether it did work. I get my FB picture in the middle and when I drag it I get a camera on the left (Doesn't work?) apps at the to along with status updates and on the right I forgot... either way it is now uninstalled.
Oh, and I was on Asylum CM10.1
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Worked for me... and I uninstalled it just 3 minutes ago Just wanted to see whether it did work. I get my FB picture in the middle and when I drag it I get a camera on the left (Doesn't work?) apps at the to along with status updates and on the right I forgot... either way it is now uninstalled.
Oh, and I was on Asylum CM10.1
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I guess you need facebook camera app. Black screen for me but now works fine! Anyway ive uninstalled it because i dont want friends or unknow people as my wallpaper... the idea was great but... it's not what i want
I really don't see the point of the Facebook app. It's like going back in time, as you lose the flexibility of the Android OS, without any widgets or customization of the home screen. Does anyone else see any use for the Facebook app?
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Don't work for me
The facebook app provided just gives me 'error try logging in again later' message. I tried the facebook app from play store but there is no option to enable facebook home.
Stock LSZ (rooted)
Edit : just read somewhere that facebook has just blocked the dev version of facebook!
same here when "error try logging in again "
They need to fix the FB app, not create a new one. When you use Facebook Home, it feels like using iOS, really fluid... but when you use the Facebook app, looks like a primitive java app, even the Facebook for every phone JAR its better than the stock android app....
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Can't see this catching on for more than five minutes while people test it out, the reason I use Twitter over Facebook is so I can choose which pictures I want to have rammed down my throat, Facebook is ok, but it really depends on your friends and what causes, situations and inane conversations they choose to share, and to have that plastered all over my home screen instead of my 3d fish or some other funky live wallpaper, with widgets that feedback up to date information is beyond me.
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Facebook Home really sucks bad! I'm never going to use it. All I see is memes and funny pictures on my lock screen. And most of all, FB Home is such a battery hog!
after installing facebook home, it is mandatory to reboot, but will not work
used for 5 minutes and then took off yesterday, is slower than normal application
Hi,
I've noticed that some apps run very smooth, but others can lag for no reason.
For example Play Store. When you open Play Store and start scrolling to the bottom of the home screen (lets say 3-4 rows of apps per swipe down) it lags a lot. It's nowhere close to being smooth. Even when you're at the bottom so everything has loaded, it still isn't smooth when scrolling up and down using normal scroll speed.
Reddit is Fun is also an app that has lots of lag / stutters for me.
Does anyone else experience this?
damanrico said:
Hi,
I've noticed that some apps run very smooth, but others can lag for no reason.
For example Play Store. When you open Play Store and start scrolling to the bottom of the home screen (lets say 3-4 rows of apps per swipe down) it lags a lot. It's nowhere close to being smooth. Even when you're at the bottom so everything has loaded, it still isn't smooth when scrolling up and down using normal scroll speed.
Reddit is Fun is also an app that has lots of lag / stutters for me.
Does anyone else experience this?
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no. i haven't yet experienced any (major) lag in any app (have Play Store obviously and Reddit is Fun installed).. currently on 1.13.401.1.. also as some apps are smooth for you and others not, i would say blame the apps, but lag and smoothness are such subjective terms that I can only say I don't see any lag.
damanrico said:
Hi,
I've noticed that some apps run very smooth, but others can lag for no reason.
For example Play Store. When you open Play Store and start scrolling to the bottom of the home screen (lets say 3-4 rows of apps per swipe down) it lags a lot. It's nowhere close to being smooth. Even when you're at the bottom so everything has loaded, it still isn't smooth when scrolling up and down using normal scroll speed.
Reddit is Fun is also an app that has lots of lag / stutters for me.
Does anyone else experience this?
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Do you have a password manager such as LastPass installed? They can cause lag issues if you have the accessability option set to fill passwords in apps.
velimirchek said:
no. i haven't yet experienced any (major) lag in any app (have Play Store obviously and Reddit is Fun installed).. currently on 1.13.401.1.. also as some apps are smooth for you and others not, i would say blame the apps, but lag and smoothness are such subjective terms that I can only say I don't see any lag.
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Well I can't really blame Play Store since it's a default app. If you don't experience such lag, it must have something to do with my device.
jsaxon2 said:
Do you have a password manager such as LastPass installed? They can cause lag issues if you have the accessability option set to fill passwords in apps.
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Nope.
Here's a short video with GPU Profiling on showing the spikes and stutters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUyyZc-_UGI&feature=youtu.be
damanrico said:
Here's a short video with GPU Profiling on showing the spikes and stutters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUyyZc-_UGI&feature=youtu.be
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i can experience the same "problem" you have. Everybody has it , trust me, but not everybody is sensible like we are.
i also see that the "go back" animation for example in settings is also stutter in 2 /10 times.
boby3104 said:
i can experience the same "problem" you have. Everybody has it , trust me, but not everybody is sensible like we are.
i also see that the "go back" animation for example in settings is also stutter in 2 /10 times.
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Thanks for your reply.
It's strange to me that the top of the line hardware can't even manage to make scrolling a default app like Play Store feel smooth. Even when viewing text comments within the Reddit is Fun app isn't always smooth. That's just scrolling text, not even loading images.
I guess I have to deal with it then. I expected more for this price range.
It's not the device. It's just poorly written apps. Compare for instance Facebook app and metal on older devices. They do the same thing but the experience is night and day. This a fairly new device so updates will come but playstore always stutters no matter the phone. It's been like that for years and I tried maaaaany devices
yes it has absolutely nothing to do with the hardware/device. like @mlodykaras said, it just poor coding.
Okay thanks for all your feedback guys!
Let's hope Google will learn how to write applications for Android correctly :silly:
Well to come back to this. The lag is just insane, there's no other way to put it. When I compare scrolling through the same text with my old Lenovo K3 Note, the U11 lags and stutters all the time while the Lenovo K3 Note doesn't stutter at all. That's just scrolling through text!
I've noticed that if you change the Interactive governor to Performance, the U11 doesn't lag anymore. But this isn't great for the CPU and for battery life of course.
Video 1 shows a 1080p 60fps Twitch stream. You can notice there are some spikes and overall it's close to the green line.
Video 2 shows the same 1080p 60fps Twitch stream. You can notice there are no spikes and overall it's not even close to the green line.
Video 3 shows the same comment thread in Reddit is Fun. I start by using the Performance governor and you can see me switch to the Interactive governor a little later. It's clear there are a ton of spikes using Interactive.
This really shouldn't be happening on such an expensive device.
I've even reverted back to stock using RUU, fresh install no restoring done. Same issues.
I have also noticed few apps other than play store. I am from India and some apps like BookMyShow & Inbox from Gmail stutters and there are always some frame drops. I tested BookMyShow in One plus 5, it runs very smoothly. Idk why it is like this and whether it'll be corrected or not.
My old debloated Galaxy S6 had smoother scrolling in apps in comparison with HTC10 and U11. HTC should adjust some kernel settings ot OS to fix this, it is very annoying. I really hope it will be fixed with Oreo update.
Windforce0511 said:
My old debloated Galaxy S6 had smoother scrolling in apps in comparison with HTC10 and U11. HTC should adjust some kernel settings ot OS to fix this, it is very annoying. I really hope it will be fixed with Oreo update.
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I don't think it would get fixed with oreo update as its not something that requires an overall new version of android.
Had it supposed to be changed, it would've changed by HTC in those 2-3 updates came out till now after the launch.
Problem with HTC is they do not take or even consider feedbacks unless there is some major major glitch.
For HTC this scrolling stutter and overblown of highlights and light sources in camera is just minor issues and they don't care about it.
On the other hand, there is google which takes every feedback seriously and tries to improve the Pixels on the software level as much as the software can.
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Problem with HTC is they do not take or even consider feedbacks unless there is some major major glitch.
For HTC this scrolling stutter and overblown of highlights and light sources in camera is just minor issues and they don't care about it.
On the other hand, there is google which takes every feedback seriously and tries to improve the Pixels on the software level as much as the software can.
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Well Google does create Android so...