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Stupid question that is probably more of a rant...

Ok, so we all have the latest greatest most "open source" phone, right? LMFAO
Why is it, seeing as battery life is complete CRAP, that programs are not smart enough to be able to turn on and off the wifi, gps, wireless networks, etc as needed? When I open google maps, it should start up the GPS. When I try to get on the web, it would be nice if it could check for pre-configured wifi. When those programs are exited, or after an inactive time limit, the wifi, gps, etc should shut back down. It seems silly to fumble around in settings to turn things on and off all the time.
Since this is a problem with Google's software, I assume they will continue to support the "not our problem, let the developers figure it out" stand, while locking us out of the ability for a fix.
Am I the only one that thinks this way?

I completely agree! I am greatly disappointment in the direction Android is going. Leaving everything to 3rd party developers and then locking root access, yeah, really smart move! As soon as T-Mobile USA releases a 3G pocket pc, I am so gone. I would have left my HTC Wizard behind for another device (and G1) but I'm stuck with this strange 3G AWS frequency and no real option for a WM device except what my provider offers. Google still has a chance to fix this issues for Android but I am very impatient with things in general. One day, it could be a great OS but as of right now and the way the road looks ahead is a dismal path to possible destruction. My suggestions to Google would be to jailbreak all devices, create your OWN soft keyboard so all programs can be used with it, ADD SOME KIND OF OFFICE SUPPORT, add support for your own software (built in) to be able to control all settings (like speed racer mentioned), video recorder, better camera options, and better Marketplace support. Again, this is a new mobile OS and it will evolve somewhat but if things continue to happen in the same path or pattern, failure is practically the only option.

gospeed.racer said:
Ok, so we all have the latest greatest most "open source" phone, right? LMFAO
Why is it, seeing as battery life is complete CRAP, that programs are not smart enough to be able to turn on and off the wifi, gps, wireless networks, etc as needed? When I open google maps, it should start up the GPS. When I try to get on the web, it would be nice if it could check for pre-configured wifi. When those programs are exited, or after an inactive time limit, the wifi, gps, etc should shut back down. It seems silly to fumble around in settings to turn things on and off all the time.
Since this is a problem with Google's software, I assume they will continue to support the "not our problem, let the developers figure it out" stand, while locking us out of the ability for a fix.
Am I the only one that thinks this way?
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Hi, download Locale or Power Manager.

I have seen both, and they are good....but they dont do what I am asking.
NATIVE support. Its like Google has all these different departments, and none want to work with the others. Everything needs to be streamlined together, maps should be able to turn on and off resources....instead of me doing it with my keypad. Who chooses to leave GPS on all day? Same with Wifi?
I am fed up with Google thinking everyone needs to do the grunt work. They cant even get their own software working properly (for example, try using the search function in maps, then try to get directions to that search...good luck!) and instead of USEFUL updates, we get updates that RESTRICT us.

gospeed.racer said:
for example, try using the search function in maps, then try to get directions to that search...good luck!
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Hmm... seems pretty easy for me? Open maps application, start typing your search (e.g. "starbucks mountain view"). List of locations comes up. I tap one, it shows location on map. Tap on the address and it brings up menu. Choose Directions to this Address and click Route button.

true...but if you simply click on "directions" and type in the exact same items you searched before, it suddenly forgot how to search.
For example, if I search for "pdx" or "gresham" on the maps, no problem. But, when I click "directions" and type in the same thing, it cant find it. It cant do a search and come up with a list of results? Google cant? LMAO. Seriously? I guess I need to do a search, write down the results. Then do another search, get directions, and type in the previous location that I wrote down. Pretty handy if you ask me!
Never had this issue with the desktop version of google maps. I can type in "gresham" and "PDX" and it can get me there. On the phone, it cant figure it out.

Apparently no one can read or understand what has been said. Google hasn't left it to 3rd parties, they are working on these things as we speak. It is in their "roadmap"
OK so it doesn't do everything your home computer can. Why can't you give it time. Why did you buy something that is brand new if you weren't ready to be patient? That is like the people who claim Vista sucks just because they used the beta version and had problems.
Give it time. As for directions are you talking about Gresham, OR? I get directions just find typing pdx and then gresham, or
Obviously you have to type the state for the city, also that little bookmark icon can be usefull... just search for the two things you want first (PDX then do a search for gresham) then use the history bookmark to add those to the direction. Worked simple that way too.
And guess what... I also can use copy and paste too... wow I guess there are many ways to do it you just have to figure it out.

gospeed.racer said:
Ok, so we all have the latest greatest most "open source" phone, right? LMFAO
Why is it, seeing as battery life is complete CRAP, that programs are not smart enough to be able to turn on and off the wifi, gps, wireless networks, etc as needed? When I open google maps, it should start up the GPS. When I try to get on the web, it would be nice if it could check for pre-configured wifi. When those programs are exited, or after an inactive time limit, the wifi, gps, etc should shut back down. It seems silly to fumble around in settings to turn things on and off all the time.
Since this is a problem with Google's software, I assume they will continue to support the "not our problem, let the developers figure it out" stand, while locking us out of the ability for a fix.
Am I the only one that thinks this way?
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No, it's not an open source phone (and I don't think google or T-mobile have said that the G1 would be), but the _software_ is. If you want a totally open phone, you should be looking towards the openmoko platform, or the dev version of the G1 that google have now announced.

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OK so it doesn't do everything your home computer can. Why can't you give it time. Why did you buy something that is brand new if you weren't ready to be patient? ....
... wow I guess there are many ways to do it you just have to figure it out.
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If Google was up front and said that it wasnt ready yet (why are WE the beta testers?) that would be one thing, but the way it is marketed in commercials and on the website, this is a phone that is ready for mass use. It is very much still in beta.
The problem with your "its not a home computer" logic is that is CAN do the functions I am referring to. It just doesnt. I used bad examples- try using something like "denny's" instead. In a search it will pull them up, but in the "directions" it will not. Apparently if there are more than one result it gets confused. My example was bad.
I have been patient, the updates so far have done nothing (for my phone at least) but fix problems and patch loopholes. There has been nothing updated that improves functionality that I have seen yet. I found their roadmap- Looks like some soft keyboard functionality next year, and more supported languages. Who hoo.

gospeed.racer said:
If Google was up front and said that it wasnt ready yet (why are WE the beta testers?) that would be one thing, but the way it is marketed in commercials and on the website, this is a phone that is ready for mass use. It is very much still in beta.
The problem with your "its not a home computer" logic is that is CAN do the functions I am referring to. It just doesnt. I used bad examples- try using something like "denny's" instead. In a search it will pull them up, but in the "directions" it will not. Apparently if there are more than one result it gets confused. My example was bad.
I have been patient, the updates so far have done nothing (for my phone at least) but fix problems and patch loopholes. There has been nothing updated that improves functionality that I have seen yet. I found their roadmap- Looks like some soft keyboard functionality next year, and more supported languages. Who hoo.
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Don't get mad a google for marketing... the commercial doesn't even say that it is google's OS... it just says Powered By Google. It blows for them.
And for the maps... I haven't been able to get either the phone or desktop to map the locations for me. Besides that doesn't it make more sense to figure out where the dennys is before getting directions to it?
It hasn't even been a month in a half yet and you think you are patient. I don't remember any significant updates to any OS in the first month it was out.

I guess my point is that tmobile (not Google apparently) released a phone that isnt ready for the general public. It should be in beta still, until the bugs (like a battery that lasts half a day under light use, calls that do not ring through, messages that dont show up, and ringtones that sometimes work and sometimes dont) are fixed. There are many problems with the phone and the OS and if you cant admit that I dont know what to say. If you are happy then fine, but not all of us are. We did NOT sign up for beta testing, if we had then there is no issue.

Sounds to me that someone should have done a little bit of research before purchasing their phone? I mean, come on! It hasn't even been 2 months yet. Maybe a razr would fit your likings more? Tmobile has plenty of those.
I say if you aren't gonna get out there & learn to write your own apps to make it the phone you want it to be, don't complain. No one held a gun to your head & said buy the phone or else. You bought into the hype. Deal with it.
No one is perfect the first time out the gates. You should have known this if you came from a windows mobile device previously. Microsoft has been at it for how many years & they still haven't gotten all the bugs & kinks out. If you think you can do better than google, I'm all in! Lets see what you got. Till then, buy a phone that doesn't have all the hype you want. Then you won't be setting yourself up for disappointment.
I haven't had any issues with this phone. So you can't save apps to the SD (YET) but that can be fixed. So your battery isn't the best (YET) but that can be fixed. Give it time. You didn't come sprinting out your mothers womb did you? Didn't think so. Let Android learn to crawl before you expect it to run hundred yard dashes

gospeed.racer said:
I guess my point is that tmobile (not Google apparently) released a phone that isnt ready for the general public. It should be in beta still, until the bugs (like a battery that lasts half a day under light use, calls that do not ring through, messages that dont show up, and ringtones that sometimes work and sometimes dont) are fixed. There are many problems with the phone and the OS and if you cant admit that I dont know what to say. If you are happy then fine, but not all of us are. We did NOT sign up for beta testing, if we had then there is no issue.
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That is funny... I had all those issues on my wing... guess I should go complain in the herald forums about my beta testing that device too.
I admit it has errors... but that doesn't mean it is the worse phone ever made like you make it out to be.

Yeah go complain at the Herald forums! They'll just tell you that you're an idiot and to unlock your phone and flash a new ROM on it. Oh wait... you can actually do that with a wing and not this pos and it actually ends up being a decent pda. That's the difference... and yes a lot of this anger comes from people with stock RC30. Also, to the dude who wipes his ass with money, lol, a lot of tmo. customers didn't have much of a choice for pdas with 3g. It's not a matter of not having the facts but the expectations were very high for this os and phone seemed to have fallen quite short. I'm not going to repeat what the shortcomings are... for they have been hammered into our skulls enough already but Google basically copied a lot of things from different mobile OS and seem to have forgotten the basics and left them out. They other thing is they won't admit any mistakes were made but simply state that they will be left to 3rd developers. After that, a security update was pushed out that locked root. How will or why should this affect developers? Well, there are several applications that only be used on rooted devices and this number will continue to rise. Several developers have quit trying to port over a few applications because of this and the crappy java layers used on android. And finally, T-mobile, google, and htc all claim that this is an open source device and os. It used to be.... the security flaw was announced on every tech blog and web site so basically google (yes google!) Sent a quick patch to fix it and now open source is dead essentially. I guaranty that root will be locked down on every other android device released next year. I know we will find a way to unlock everything here but it's just bs and you guys know it. Of course, no fanyboys will admit it while having their lips firmly placed on google's ass. It's not open source and it won't be until we unlock root ourselves. And now one can argue with me until the next android device comes out. Yes, it is its infancy but it really seems more like a beta. Just disappointed like many others. It's such a stable OS and has a lot of potential but a lot of basic things have been left out, nothing less or nothing more...

I'm sorry, can you show me where T-mobile and HTC claim the G1/Dream is an "open source device" please? I haven't seen anything from either company stating that the G1 would be open source. Android, on the other hand _is_ open, and while, yes I will agree that it's frustrating that you need to "hack" the device to be able to use it to it's full potential, Google have addressed this by releasing the "dev" handsets. Ultimately, as a previous poster has pointed out no-one forced you into picking up the G1, and as you've discovered, frustration often comes with picking up bleeding edge hardware.

So basically your mad at htc/google/tmobile cuz you neglected to read the specs on their websites? Damn my headlight just went out on my car. I'm gonna go yell at chrystler for not putting a better bulb in it! Your forgetting to realize what I stated before, no one forced you! You can piss & moan all you want but again as I stated before, make your own apps to make it the phone you want it to be! So you want 3g? Why? Cuz its faster? Umm I forgot where htc/google/tmobile said this was a laptop? Can you show me? Cuz last time I checked, it was still a cell phone. 3g is a novelty. I don't live in a 3g area so maybe I'm just speaking on deaf ears. I by no means am a fanboy of htc. If tmobile got that touch blackberry, i'd be all over it like white on rice! Be angry but all your gonna get is white hairs & wrinkles. Its wasted energy. Take a seat & wait for android to grow & then you may speak. Or go out & do it better than google. Make your own os. Let's see how you do your first time out
And as far as the unlocking & flashing, how long did it take for that to be a reality? I wasn't there from the start of windows mobile but I'm pretty sure people weren't able to do that right out the box. It is a skill that needed to be learned, as with Android. Maybe you'll research your device better next time.

so I can write apps that will make me not to miss calls when they dont ring through? Will help battery life? Will keep me from missing messages?
I AM TALKING ABOUT THE ROOT GOOGLE SOFTWARE not just apps. Have you heard me complain about a video recorder? A video player? no, because those CAN BE FIXED. How do we change the way Google maps works? WE dont...Google does.
The OS itself is very nice. Coming from WM6.1 the stability is great. I dont need to reboot daily, constantly shut down programs, etc. I understand that WM has been around forever, I had a tmobile PPC2003, so I have been around this stuff for a bit. Android is new, given time it will get better. But I am missing calls NOW. I am constantly charging my battery NOW. These things are important as it is a "phone" after all. The roadmap addresses NONE of these things, just some multi language support and a keyboard.
I am quite sure that there will be many more replies to how f'd up my thinking is, but I am done. I am at the point where all I can do is repeat myself. Its NOT ready yet, and there are MAJOR things that need fixes.

gospeed.racer said:
so I can write apps that will make me not to miss calls when they dont ring through? Will help battery life? Will keep me from missing messages?
I AM TALKING ABOUT THE ROOT GOOGLE SOFTWARE not just apps. Have you heard me complain about a video recorder? A video player? no, because those CAN BE FIXED. How do we change the way Google maps works? WE dont...Google does.
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No, you DO fix the problem - you file a bug with google, and if you have the skills, a patch that fixes the problem, if it's all ok, then it'll get accepted into the source and fixed.
The only problem is, that as T-mobile have (I assume) insisted that the G1 is locked, google need to compile the release for you.
please, go read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source and, if you can return your G1, I don't think it's the phone you want.

Marketplace "copy protection" cracked

I will not do anything with this, or publish how. But you can be assured the "warez" guys from that one site will figure this out within a day or so as well...
As most of you will know I am a software developer by trade, with some commercial offerings from my company.
And then there was Marketplace. For commercial devs, something nice to have. But if you have followed the news, the piracy protection for commercial developers is not much to speak of. See this document http://download.microsoft.com/downl...tplace for Mobile Anti-Piracy White Paper.pdf.
I will refrain from quoting the obvious mistakes in this document, if you give this thing a read, you will notice them soon enough. What it all comes down to is that there is no copy protection, not even at the advanced level, at least if they implement it in the way I interpret from reading that document.
So today I started up Marketplace and it worked. Hurrah. The current level of protection is making sure the CAB files are deleted upon install - which is obviously not a way to protect anything - but even this, I thought, should easily be circumventable.
Now, because I wanted to see how fast it could be done, I went with a hunch instead of doing any investigation. And that hunch worked like charm. It took me less than five minutes to circumvent this "protection", and get the ability to save the CABs the MarketPlace app downloads to a different folder. As the CAB file is the same for every downloader, you could just give this CAB you payed for out to all your friends.
Obviously I will not disclose the method, because that would be working against other commercial developers, and ultimately myself. It's just to let you know how ridiculously easy it is, and to give fair warning to those looking to sell apps on the Marketplace.
So, the moral of the story is... WTF MICROSOFT?
I know firsthand there is no such thing as perfect copy protection, but this is just plain ridiculous.
What we really need is for apps to be able to use our own copy protection schemes... you know, like the good web-based app stores out there.
EDIT: l3v5y has also succeeded in doing something similar, and it seems the WMPowerUser admin also found another easy way to do it... Yay, and it ain't even out yet!

Not even 12 hours after launch...that's pretty quick

Oh noes.... that's not good!
Imagine Microsoft reads this and decides to offset tomorrow's Marketplace launch...
Or even worse, Microsoft launches the Marketplace but developers decide not to submit their apps because they're concerned that their apps get pirated.

Thats what happens when devices aren't locked down.

That sounds bad, but it's really no different to how things are today. Perhaps there are some apps that have more security than either nothing or a serial key, but none that I use have anything more sophisticated.
Even as a developer myself, I'd easily take this over some DRMfest.

So, if I'm reading this correctly, when you buy something from marketplace it's not tied into your username with a password like most apps? Instead, you just buy it and it installs the app, but doesn't give you a cab? Yeah, I don't think it's that hard to work around that and get a cab for yourself. Some of the cheaper apps at Handango are like that. Can you re-download an app onto a new device or if you have to hard reset, and is it free or do you need to buy download protection like form Handango?

Good, copy protection pisses me off, all it does is piss of the genuine users. We have to deal with codes and activation to be legit, while people getting it free, just click here and there, copy a code here and huzah.
Copy protection doesnt work, someone will always find a way around it. Unless its linked to a windows live profile/xbox live profile. Which I can see probably happening when they bring out Zune on mobile phones, which sounds like it might be sooner rather than later!

I did something like this earlier... MS haven't quite got security done yet, though my guess is the iPhone is no better...

I'm really surprised by the lack of any drm; what's the point of signing in w/ one's Windows Live account? The easiest thing to do is to associate valid applications w/ one's Window's Live account. That's what itunes does for music at least (I don't know about apps as I don't have an iphone/ipod touch). Of course, what would happen is that an internet connection of some form is needed when the application is first installed, which could become inconvenient.

The truth of the matter is that the percentage or ratio of people who would bother to do this is pretty small. Most WinMo usersbarely even know how to setup e-mail not to mention install a cab file.
Most of the people in this forum already know how and where to get cracked apps or warez if they wanted too. I don't see this so called "flaw" as being an issue to MS or developers.

Must admit that I find it a bit worrying that your not able to make a backup of the applications you buy by taking a copy of the cab file somewhere safe.
After having sent back 4 HTC phones (two different models) in the last 10 months, and having an SD die on me I'd really like to know that I have a backup of anything I've paid for.
Can anyone confirm if its possible to reinstall something you've paid for through the Marketplace app if it gets removed from your phone, or you get another phone? ie if you log into Marketplace with the same Lice ID does it show apps that you've bought but which aren't on the phone your connected with?
If I look at an app that I have installed through Marketplace there is no install button anymore and Marketplace tells me that it is installed... so no obvious way to get the application back...
Not enough free apps on the UK store for me to mess about with really (have installed Shazam trial but don't want to risk uninstaling it just to see what happens).
-FM

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Must admit that I find it a bit worrying that your not able to make a backup of the applications you buy by taking a copy of the cab file somewhere safe.
After having sent back 4 HTC phones (two different models) in the last 10 months, and having an SD die on me I'd really like to know that I have a backup of anything I've paid for.
Can anyone confirm if its possible to reinstall something you've paid for through the Marketplace app if it gets removed from your phone, or you get another phone? ie if you log into Marketplace with the same Lice ID does it show apps that you've bought but which aren't on the phone your connected with?
If I look at an app that I have installed through Marketplace there is no install button anymore and Marketplace tells me that it is installed... so no obvious way to get the application back...
Not enough free apps on the UK store for me to mess about with really (have installed Shazam trial but don't want to risk uninstaling it just to see what happens).
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looks like it keeps track of all apps you purchased.

ow well, I guess it's a matter of time when there will be sites that point to all the cabs available on upload sites and stuff. Just like those sites exists for iphone/ipod (appulo.us for example)
I guess that's what happens when people see that there a lot of apps available on other country stores..
what do you think...

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looks like it keeps track of all apps you purchased.
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Hi dicemaster,
How did you try this? Uninstalling and reinstalling on the same phone or another phone? Or the same phone after a hard reboot / content erase?
I'm just interested to know from what state you can get back to your purchased applicationsand whether is purely your windows live id that connects you to your purchases or if there is some device specific stuff checked as well.
Cheers,
FM

Is there anything to stop Software Authors implementing (or continuing to use) their normal Serial number protection systems?
Looking at the Market Place, there are obviously some of the Big Names we all know and love, and I don't see why they would remove protection systems they have in place already, unless it was a MarketPlace requirement.
Personally, I can't say I'm at all impressed with the MarketPlace implementation - it heralds back to the early days of PocketPC. Maybe they're going for lowest common denominator hardware support, but frankly even the relatively poor Android marketplace on Hero is massively better. And the Appstore even more so. And I think Cydia tops most of them!
Let's hope that the MarketPlace at least drives prices down.
V

I am assuming it's more difficult then just going to \Windows\AppMgr\Install folder while the installer is running and copy the CAB file to another location. This is how I get the CAB files from PC only installers.
I personally use SKTracker a lot. I take a snapshot before, and then during the install and see what has changed. That generally tells me right where any install files/CABs are that I need to grab.

vijay555 said:
Is there anything to stop Software Authors implementing (or continuing to use) their normal Serial number protection systems?
Looking at the Market Place, there are obviously some of the Big Names we all know and love, and I don't see why they would remove protection systems they have in place already, unless it was a MarketPlace requirement.
Personally, I can't say I'm at all impressed with the MarketPlace implementation - it heralds back to the early days of PocketPC. Maybe they're going for lowest common denominator hardware support, but frankly even the relatively poor Android marketplace on Hero is massively better. And the Appstore even more so. And I think Cydia tops most of them!
Let's hope that the MarketPlace at least drives prices down.
V
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Microsoft does not support your own serial systems. There is no information you can compare runtime vs purchases either, so you can't roll your own. Well ok, you DO actually have device ID information you could use, but that way purchasers can only run the application on the phone they actually bought it on. It is not clear how 're-download' information will be transmitted. If that also transmits a device id, then it is possible to roll your own, though it would be pretty nasty.

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I am assuming it's more difficult then just going to \Windows\AppMgr\Install folder while the installer is running and copy the CAB file to another location. This is how I get the CAB files from PC only installers.
I personally use SKTracker a lot. I take a snapshot before, and then during the install and see what has changed. That generally tells me right where any install files/CABs are that I need to grab.
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If you go to C:\Program Files\Microsoft ActiveSync on your PC, you'll probably find an archive of many things that you installed over active sync.
SK Tools is a good way to re-pack any installed programs into cabs. I would guess that it works with programs from Market Place.

good find bud..i sent it to engadget for ya
http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/08/dev-finds-windows-marketplace-drm-severely-lacking-easily-circu/

Strange thing happened to me tonight!

Hello All!!
Tonight*I was reviewing different YouTube videos and I clicked on one and it started playing one of those ads that you get every once in a while in front of the actual video and all the sudden I saw the screen go blank and I started seeing what appeared to me to be like a dos window for lack of a better definition with some typing scrolling across and it said something to the effect of personal data gathered or something like that and really freaked me out so I pulled the battery & took my sd card out and booted it back up but I'm not sure exactly what the hell that was.
Have any of you seen anything like this?
I'm really concerned because I have a lot of personal and customer data on my phone.Is there anything I can use to scan it to see if something was able to be *installed? I don't think it had enough time to get any information out just in case it was able to install something but it really freaked me out.*I'm a microsoft network administrator but androids are out of my knowledge base.Any information would be greatly appreciated!Regards

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Hello All!!
Tonight*I was reviewing different YouTube videos and I clicked on one and it started playing one of those ads that you get every once in a while in front of the actual video and all the sudden I saw the screen go blank and I started seeing what appeared to me to be like a dos window for lack of a better definition with some typing scrolling across and it said something to the effect of personal data gathered or something like that and really freaked me out so I pulled the battery & took my sd card out and booted it back up but I'm not sure exactly what the hell that was.
Have any of you seen anything like this?
I'm really concerned because I have a lot of personal and customer data on my phone.Is there anything I can use to scan it to see if something was able to be *installed? I don't think it had enough time to get any information out just in case it was able to install something but it really freaked me out.*I'm a microsoft network administrator but androids are out of my knowledge base.Any information would be greatly appreciated!Regards
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It is probably your browser crashed and started to collect crash info to submit to Google. Check if you can disable that or at least you can get a pop up window asking if you want to submit crash data to Google.
Install adaway and you won't get any ads playing on youtube...

Sweet! That makes sense as I have been having issues with my phone. Can't wait for my Saygus V Squared to show up!! That's going to be one great smartphone!
Thanks again for the help. Now I feel better that I didn't get compromised by a virus. Do android phones get viruses by the way? I've read both opinions that they do and don't? ?
Thanks again!
Tom

ITAdmin said:
Sweet! That makes sense as I have been having issues with my phone. Can't wait for my Saygus V Squared to show up!! That's going to be one great smartphone!
Thanks again for the help. Now I feel better that I didn't get compromised by a virus. Do android phones get viruses by the way? I've read both opinions that they do and don't? ?
Thanks again!
Tom
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Probably didn't get compromised...
Every OS has viruses even linux, but at least on Android you can get under the hood (because it is open source unlike IOS or Windows). Let me give you an example: there are firewalls for Windows/IOS, but they all depend on Windows binaries. Only on Android (because it is based on open source Linux) you can have a firewall with its own binaries, which means that you can really restrict system and still have internet access. Try to disable internet access to system in windows and you won't have any internet access. And once you enable it, all bets are off, because windows can freely communicate with Microsoft servers and who knows what others, which could be exploited by anyone.. So, if you don't want to have viruses in Windows, don't use the internet...
I think that answers the question.

I'm just done trying...someone please help

Good evening all. I have a sort of complicated, long story but I'm hoping someone here with the knowledge to help me would do me a solid and save me a lot of additional heartache. Over the past several months, I have noticed done strange things in my android phones...3 different phones to be exact. My husband and I were sharing a phone for a while because he destroyed his. I started noticing that I couldn't access certain files...everything was encoded that I didn't recognize so I couldn't read things...Google wouldn't allow me into certain features.....he denies having anything to do with it and calls me crazy. Today I found partitions that are encrypted....apps I can't access....different ports and things of that nature on my phone and I cannot either open the files or read the weird code. It's pictures and contacts and apps he swears he knows nothing about. I'm no developer....far from it. Really, I'm here to find out what is on my phone. I need to see whatever these hidden things are so that I can bring hard evidence to the table....otherwise, he calls me crazy, denies knowing anything and I really can't deal Anymore but I need the proof. Please, someone help me. Thank you.

Can you add a screenshot of what happens when you try to open one of those apps or files?

I have a very simple and straight-forward question about Android as architecture at all.

Good night, gentlemans.
Long story short: I have tryed a lot and cant find super simple and direct order solution. And iam very confused and dissapoint.
Below I will explain in details, but if you wont spend time or have not itm Q:
1. Is it REALLY possible have an android phone the way you want it, fully under your control and without issues like "you cant do it, go suck dog's tail"?
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long ver. expl.
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long time i have used android phones (always loved samsungs, from buttons folds to first smarts. iam old fart and member era before Iphone, before one-fit-all glance brick form factor and world with only 2 phone OS. some maybe member 3 (win), but long time ago there was much more. and them was REALLY diff; so then i had done stupidest thing for all time when switch to Xi.), and not ever thinked about non-stock roms , etc (but knew it very long time. my fried starts to learn and go in to testing then dev smth about 2.3 – 2.3.2android era, then go to work in Samsung. iam know about stuffs that you can fully customize you phone etc etc, but just wasnt interested into. i have browsing, phone services, maps, and thats was totally enough for me.)
... years spent.
and at one day i have realized that i doesnt like the state and our interactions between me and my android phones. then start some censorship era, i bought good mega premium vpns for years and forgot again.
then times spent.
and i have realized that Google not my friend, not on my side and not a solid trusted partner.
bad thing is that here Usually you know from start or very quickly who is who.
for ex "we" (mine workaround enviroment and oth) always knew that MS is a [bad] corporation and has no ullusions, trust and reliable, and has played that way couter plays. the same with FB, and a lot a lot others.
on other side there is a another side, totally counter polis - some who has solid proved rep, much more trust credit and etc.
G was a big illusion.
ok, would not go deeper.
So i have realized that i dont want interact with google and it services any more. AND i has really NO any need in them atm.
Ok. iOS.
(never understood iphones all that years, tried and it was nightmare for me. and the biggest trouble - at that moment just non exist opportunity to interact with blockchains ****s and stuff in full state and manner i used and need. non exist by concept and design).
so go to A.
not long time ago i knew that here was conceptual revolution in apple vision about that ****s, and atm in 2022 i can obtain and use everything i need and used in ios as in A. maybe not that way super comfortable, but WORKS and fully covered. i bought iphone (XR) and put androids in junk.
But iOS really not for me.
iam would not to start argue or holywar, but FOR me and my big expirience in diff online ways interaction (iam online from 1999) ios user expirience and implementation of a LOT of aspects just a hell, nightmare.
(and am totaly not mean a "paid for everything" thing. no no, no proublem, iam paid what i need, even if it laughable that it havent native and need to be buhyed, also like media managnets etc etc etc. BUT iam still use iphone, BECAUSE atm here is very very very thin nuances, that iam forced to use IOS instead A. and struggling and cry, but still staying. coz ATM here is thin thin nuances that has > all nightmare part of everything in ios user expirience. ok, ok, need to say honestly: but one thing amazed me in iOS enviroment. you can obtain DIRECT, PERSONAL, HUMAN customer support 24/7 real time. with no **** like "neural networks writed by monkeys **** dogs" - the case about 7/10 of EVERY customer services in all spheres nowadays. )
so iam look some little deep more i knew about customize android phone and starts to trying.
start from old one Xi , unlock my 1st BL, and start experiments.
than anoter more modern Xi.
than diff Android phone.
about less in a year i have all the ****s went.
tried million custom roms, learn to flash things here in there, in win and in *.nix, has brick to full dead my phones and unbrick it by myself with all that engeneer roms, qfils, sometimes paid services like edl, etc etc etc.
and iam realized one thing:
IT IS ALL JUST "SKINS" and no more.
Yes you can find "no google" something offered but it would be anyway somehow **** iam doesnt want. gaps micro gs, spoffs, jerking here and there.
root firewalls, debloaters of all kind, auroras, fdroids, lOS, and oth.
and in the end of a day iam ALWAYS stuck into some wall there i have see an a sign "YOU CANT, GO SUCK DOG".
or i can physically, tryed hard, but after 1st reboot that glance lights brick became an a just brick. and here we go again...
for example iam REALLY DOESNT WANT to has an a bluetooth, wifi direct, "smart connections" features and any location services, especually fused ones.
iam doesnt want an a preinstalled browser, gallery, fm radio or some other ****s that i can put into "disable" and like "restrict" some kind of activitys, but thats all butafory. OR - brick state incoming.
as a some option: super old ber of A with Permessive SElinyx - so it just has no sence to use at all, directly install huge backdoor and cosmic wide security issue. even if you woul not plan to use smth serios. you can did it ocasionally and... you would rekt.
and that only yours fol - u wided yours ass by yourself.
ok iam read about make an a ROM.
as i have understood i need an a hiend pc, a lot of things, time and knowledge, and [seems] in result best i would obtain it be some "pixel like" skin with all pretends.
So i have really cant understand - is here a POSSIBLE to have an a ROM for A, with totally NOPE ties to G ayways, even firebase ****s, just the way i want, witout some hardtied things that i "cant" manage or get rid.
i have an very good 3rd party paided services, iam not need no mail from g or some other, i have an a premium vpns of all kinds so i doesnt need any (even as feature) "safe browsing", i dont need any g or it partners clouds, coz i have my own etc etc. i dont need Gpay services, i can obtain apks i need DIRECTLY, no gp, no aurora, no FD. i can pay for services DIRECTLY, witout involve in that process any G **** etc.
but seems i cant has an a host os at my phone to put it all into. the way i want.
OR iam wrong?
but seems i can have an my own