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Ok, so we all have the latest greatest most "open source" phone, right? LMFAO
Why is it, seeing as battery life is complete CRAP, that programs are not smart enough to be able to turn on and off the wifi, gps, wireless networks, etc as needed? When I open google maps, it should start up the GPS. When I try to get on the web, it would be nice if it could check for pre-configured wifi. When those programs are exited, or after an inactive time limit, the wifi, gps, etc should shut back down. It seems silly to fumble around in settings to turn things on and off all the time.
Since this is a problem with Google's software, I assume they will continue to support the "not our problem, let the developers figure it out" stand, while locking us out of the ability for a fix.
Am I the only one that thinks this way?
I completely agree! I am greatly disappointment in the direction Android is going. Leaving everything to 3rd party developers and then locking root access, yeah, really smart move! As soon as T-Mobile USA releases a 3G pocket pc, I am so gone. I would have left my HTC Wizard behind for another device (and G1) but I'm stuck with this strange 3G AWS frequency and no real option for a WM device except what my provider offers. Google still has a chance to fix this issues for Android but I am very impatient with things in general. One day, it could be a great OS but as of right now and the way the road looks ahead is a dismal path to possible destruction. My suggestions to Google would be to jailbreak all devices, create your OWN soft keyboard so all programs can be used with it, ADD SOME KIND OF OFFICE SUPPORT, add support for your own software (built in) to be able to control all settings (like speed racer mentioned), video recorder, better camera options, and better Marketplace support. Again, this is a new mobile OS and it will evolve somewhat but if things continue to happen in the same path or pattern, failure is practically the only option.
gospeed.racer said:
Ok, so we all have the latest greatest most "open source" phone, right? LMFAO
Why is it, seeing as battery life is complete CRAP, that programs are not smart enough to be able to turn on and off the wifi, gps, wireless networks, etc as needed? When I open google maps, it should start up the GPS. When I try to get on the web, it would be nice if it could check for pre-configured wifi. When those programs are exited, or after an inactive time limit, the wifi, gps, etc should shut back down. It seems silly to fumble around in settings to turn things on and off all the time.
Since this is a problem with Google's software, I assume they will continue to support the "not our problem, let the developers figure it out" stand, while locking us out of the ability for a fix.
Am I the only one that thinks this way?
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Hi, download Locale or Power Manager.
I have seen both, and they are good....but they dont do what I am asking.
NATIVE support. Its like Google has all these different departments, and none want to work with the others. Everything needs to be streamlined together, maps should be able to turn on and off resources....instead of me doing it with my keypad. Who chooses to leave GPS on all day? Same with Wifi?
I am fed up with Google thinking everyone needs to do the grunt work. They cant even get their own software working properly (for example, try using the search function in maps, then try to get directions to that search...good luck!) and instead of USEFUL updates, we get updates that RESTRICT us.
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for example, try using the search function in maps, then try to get directions to that search...good luck!
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Hmm... seems pretty easy for me? Open maps application, start typing your search (e.g. "starbucks mountain view"). List of locations comes up. I tap one, it shows location on map. Tap on the address and it brings up menu. Choose Directions to this Address and click Route button.
true...but if you simply click on "directions" and type in the exact same items you searched before, it suddenly forgot how to search.
For example, if I search for "pdx" or "gresham" on the maps, no problem. But, when I click "directions" and type in the same thing, it cant find it. It cant do a search and come up with a list of results? Google cant? LMAO. Seriously? I guess I need to do a search, write down the results. Then do another search, get directions, and type in the previous location that I wrote down. Pretty handy if you ask me!
Never had this issue with the desktop version of google maps. I can type in "gresham" and "PDX" and it can get me there. On the phone, it cant figure it out.
Apparently no one can read or understand what has been said. Google hasn't left it to 3rd parties, they are working on these things as we speak. It is in their "roadmap"
OK so it doesn't do everything your home computer can. Why can't you give it time. Why did you buy something that is brand new if you weren't ready to be patient? That is like the people who claim Vista sucks just because they used the beta version and had problems.
Give it time. As for directions are you talking about Gresham, OR? I get directions just find typing pdx and then gresham, or
Obviously you have to type the state for the city, also that little bookmark icon can be usefull... just search for the two things you want first (PDX then do a search for gresham) then use the history bookmark to add those to the direction. Worked simple that way too.
And guess what... I also can use copy and paste too... wow I guess there are many ways to do it you just have to figure it out.
gospeed.racer said:
Ok, so we all have the latest greatest most "open source" phone, right? LMFAO
Why is it, seeing as battery life is complete CRAP, that programs are not smart enough to be able to turn on and off the wifi, gps, wireless networks, etc as needed? When I open google maps, it should start up the GPS. When I try to get on the web, it would be nice if it could check for pre-configured wifi. When those programs are exited, or after an inactive time limit, the wifi, gps, etc should shut back down. It seems silly to fumble around in settings to turn things on and off all the time.
Since this is a problem with Google's software, I assume they will continue to support the "not our problem, let the developers figure it out" stand, while locking us out of the ability for a fix.
Am I the only one that thinks this way?
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No, it's not an open source phone (and I don't think google or T-mobile have said that the G1 would be), but the _software_ is. If you want a totally open phone, you should be looking towards the openmoko platform, or the dev version of the G1 that google have now announced.
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OK so it doesn't do everything your home computer can. Why can't you give it time. Why did you buy something that is brand new if you weren't ready to be patient? ....
... wow I guess there are many ways to do it you just have to figure it out.
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If Google was up front and said that it wasnt ready yet (why are WE the beta testers?) that would be one thing, but the way it is marketed in commercials and on the website, this is a phone that is ready for mass use. It is very much still in beta.
The problem with your "its not a home computer" logic is that is CAN do the functions I am referring to. It just doesnt. I used bad examples- try using something like "denny's" instead. In a search it will pull them up, but in the "directions" it will not. Apparently if there are more than one result it gets confused. My example was bad.
I have been patient, the updates so far have done nothing (for my phone at least) but fix problems and patch loopholes. There has been nothing updated that improves functionality that I have seen yet. I found their roadmap- Looks like some soft keyboard functionality next year, and more supported languages. Who hoo.
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If Google was up front and said that it wasnt ready yet (why are WE the beta testers?) that would be one thing, but the way it is marketed in commercials and on the website, this is a phone that is ready for mass use. It is very much still in beta.
The problem with your "its not a home computer" logic is that is CAN do the functions I am referring to. It just doesnt. I used bad examples- try using something like "denny's" instead. In a search it will pull them up, but in the "directions" it will not. Apparently if there are more than one result it gets confused. My example was bad.
I have been patient, the updates so far have done nothing (for my phone at least) but fix problems and patch loopholes. There has been nothing updated that improves functionality that I have seen yet. I found their roadmap- Looks like some soft keyboard functionality next year, and more supported languages. Who hoo.
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Don't get mad a google for marketing... the commercial doesn't even say that it is google's OS... it just says Powered By Google. It blows for them.
And for the maps... I haven't been able to get either the phone or desktop to map the locations for me. Besides that doesn't it make more sense to figure out where the dennys is before getting directions to it?
It hasn't even been a month in a half yet and you think you are patient. I don't remember any significant updates to any OS in the first month it was out.
I guess my point is that tmobile (not Google apparently) released a phone that isnt ready for the general public. It should be in beta still, until the bugs (like a battery that lasts half a day under light use, calls that do not ring through, messages that dont show up, and ringtones that sometimes work and sometimes dont) are fixed. There are many problems with the phone and the OS and if you cant admit that I dont know what to say. If you are happy then fine, but not all of us are. We did NOT sign up for beta testing, if we had then there is no issue.
Sounds to me that someone should have done a little bit of research before purchasing their phone? I mean, come on! It hasn't even been 2 months yet. Maybe a razr would fit your likings more? Tmobile has plenty of those.
I say if you aren't gonna get out there & learn to write your own apps to make it the phone you want it to be, don't complain. No one held a gun to your head & said buy the phone or else. You bought into the hype. Deal with it.
No one is perfect the first time out the gates. You should have known this if you came from a windows mobile device previously. Microsoft has been at it for how many years & they still haven't gotten all the bugs & kinks out. If you think you can do better than google, I'm all in! Lets see what you got. Till then, buy a phone that doesn't have all the hype you want. Then you won't be setting yourself up for disappointment.
I haven't had any issues with this phone. So you can't save apps to the SD (YET) but that can be fixed. So your battery isn't the best (YET) but that can be fixed. Give it time. You didn't come sprinting out your mothers womb did you? Didn't think so. Let Android learn to crawl before you expect it to run hundred yard dashes
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I guess my point is that tmobile (not Google apparently) released a phone that isnt ready for the general public. It should be in beta still, until the bugs (like a battery that lasts half a day under light use, calls that do not ring through, messages that dont show up, and ringtones that sometimes work and sometimes dont) are fixed. There are many problems with the phone and the OS and if you cant admit that I dont know what to say. If you are happy then fine, but not all of us are. We did NOT sign up for beta testing, if we had then there is no issue.
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That is funny... I had all those issues on my wing... guess I should go complain in the herald forums about my beta testing that device too.
I admit it has errors... but that doesn't mean it is the worse phone ever made like you make it out to be.
Yeah go complain at the Herald forums! They'll just tell you that you're an idiot and to unlock your phone and flash a new ROM on it. Oh wait... you can actually do that with a wing and not this pos and it actually ends up being a decent pda. That's the difference... and yes a lot of this anger comes from people with stock RC30. Also, to the dude who wipes his ass with money, lol, a lot of tmo. customers didn't have much of a choice for pdas with 3g. It's not a matter of not having the facts but the expectations were very high for this os and phone seemed to have fallen quite short. I'm not going to repeat what the shortcomings are... for they have been hammered into our skulls enough already but Google basically copied a lot of things from different mobile OS and seem to have forgotten the basics and left them out. They other thing is they won't admit any mistakes were made but simply state that they will be left to 3rd developers. After that, a security update was pushed out that locked root. How will or why should this affect developers? Well, there are several applications that only be used on rooted devices and this number will continue to rise. Several developers have quit trying to port over a few applications because of this and the crappy java layers used on android. And finally, T-mobile, google, and htc all claim that this is an open source device and os. It used to be.... the security flaw was announced on every tech blog and web site so basically google (yes google!) Sent a quick patch to fix it and now open source is dead essentially. I guaranty that root will be locked down on every other android device released next year. I know we will find a way to unlock everything here but it's just bs and you guys know it. Of course, no fanyboys will admit it while having their lips firmly placed on google's ass. It's not open source and it won't be until we unlock root ourselves. And now one can argue with me until the next android device comes out. Yes, it is its infancy but it really seems more like a beta. Just disappointed like many others. It's such a stable OS and has a lot of potential but a lot of basic things have been left out, nothing less or nothing more...
I'm sorry, can you show me where T-mobile and HTC claim the G1/Dream is an "open source device" please? I haven't seen anything from either company stating that the G1 would be open source. Android, on the other hand _is_ open, and while, yes I will agree that it's frustrating that you need to "hack" the device to be able to use it to it's full potential, Google have addressed this by releasing the "dev" handsets. Ultimately, as a previous poster has pointed out no-one forced you into picking up the G1, and as you've discovered, frustration often comes with picking up bleeding edge hardware.
So basically your mad at htc/google/tmobile cuz you neglected to read the specs on their websites? Damn my headlight just went out on my car. I'm gonna go yell at chrystler for not putting a better bulb in it! Your forgetting to realize what I stated before, no one forced you! You can piss & moan all you want but again as I stated before, make your own apps to make it the phone you want it to be! So you want 3g? Why? Cuz its faster? Umm I forgot where htc/google/tmobile said this was a laptop? Can you show me? Cuz last time I checked, it was still a cell phone. 3g is a novelty. I don't live in a 3g area so maybe I'm just speaking on deaf ears. I by no means am a fanboy of htc. If tmobile got that touch blackberry, i'd be all over it like white on rice! Be angry but all your gonna get is white hairs & wrinkles. Its wasted energy. Take a seat & wait for android to grow & then you may speak. Or go out & do it better than google. Make your own os. Let's see how you do your first time out
And as far as the unlocking & flashing, how long did it take for that to be a reality? I wasn't there from the start of windows mobile but I'm pretty sure people weren't able to do that right out the box. It is a skill that needed to be learned, as with Android. Maybe you'll research your device better next time.
so I can write apps that will make me not to miss calls when they dont ring through? Will help battery life? Will keep me from missing messages?
I AM TALKING ABOUT THE ROOT GOOGLE SOFTWARE not just apps. Have you heard me complain about a video recorder? A video player? no, because those CAN BE FIXED. How do we change the way Google maps works? WE dont...Google does.
The OS itself is very nice. Coming from WM6.1 the stability is great. I dont need to reboot daily, constantly shut down programs, etc. I understand that WM has been around forever, I had a tmobile PPC2003, so I have been around this stuff for a bit. Android is new, given time it will get better. But I am missing calls NOW. I am constantly charging my battery NOW. These things are important as it is a "phone" after all. The roadmap addresses NONE of these things, just some multi language support and a keyboard.
I am quite sure that there will be many more replies to how f'd up my thinking is, but I am done. I am at the point where all I can do is repeat myself. Its NOT ready yet, and there are MAJOR things that need fixes.
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so I can write apps that will make me not to miss calls when they dont ring through? Will help battery life? Will keep me from missing messages?
I AM TALKING ABOUT THE ROOT GOOGLE SOFTWARE not just apps. Have you heard me complain about a video recorder? A video player? no, because those CAN BE FIXED. How do we change the way Google maps works? WE dont...Google does.
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No, you DO fix the problem - you file a bug with google, and if you have the skills, a patch that fixes the problem, if it's all ok, then it'll get accepted into the source and fixed.
The only problem is, that as T-mobile have (I assume) insisted that the G1 is locked, google need to compile the release for you.
please, go read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source and, if you can return your G1, I don't think it's the phone you want.
I've used an Android tablet for about a year now, and although I've put in a lot of time to make it useful and controllable, it still has a lot of troubling mysteries. I have a few questions for developer types that hopefully will help shed some light on things:
1. Why don't applications feature a "Close" button? In both Windows and GNU/Linux with a GUI, you get a neat little "X" at the top right of the window. Usually, when you click this, the application terminates. Is that so much to ask for on Android? The means of closing apps on Android seem to be entirely up to the devs and there doesn't appear to be a standard way at all. Some of the apps I've used on Android don't have any way to close them whatsoever, with the exception of killing them from a task manager or the "Manage Apps" section of settings.
2. Why do many of these programs suddenly and mysteriously start running entirely on their own? It's terribly frustrating for me to kill an app and in a half an hour find it there on the task manager list again, running without my having asked for it to do so. Where is this controlled? If there is some sort of task scheduler making this happen, why can't I easily see a list of scheduled tasks and choose which ones to run or not to run?
3. For programs that *are* running in the background (the ones I *want* to have running), why is it that they usually don't have some sort of taskbar icon to indicate at a glance that they are still running?
4. Why can't I see everything that's loading when the tablet starts? I guess I'm asking to see a logcat screen instead of a splash screen. GNU/Linux distros don't usually hide everything from the end user, so why isn't it optional on an Android tablet? Even in custom ROMS all I get are neat looking splash screens, not a terminal interface on boot.
5. Why doesn't a decent firewall application yet exist for Android? All I seem to be able to find are really coarse ones like Droidwall, where it's an all or nothing proposition (allow/block). I'd like to be able to control protocols, ports, zones and individual IP addresses and ranges like a good firewall on Windows or GNU/Linux allows. I am constantly under suspicion that someone is doing something on my tablet without my even being aware of it.
6. Why are permissions for applications so difficult to control? Maybe I don't want some stupid game getting a look at my contacts list. I realize I can just uninstall the game, but so many apps seem to tap into stuff that they shouldn't be allowed to, I feel like some sort of permissions control should be a default standard thing in Android. Instead all there seems to be are a couple of apps on the market that may or may not work.
7. Do any of you developers feel dissatisfied about the state of Android, and does Google take your feedback seriously?
8. Are there any forks of the Android OS that don't rely on Google for anything? I'm not 100 percent sure about the difference between a GNU and an Apache license. How much of the OS is closed-source? Is it enough to prevent a true, fully open-sourced Android-based OS from being made?
Sorry if any of these questions sound stupid, but even though Android is supposed to be more open than iOS, it's still not open enough for my tastes. I actually feel safer using Windows than Android, and that's just not how it should be. Am I alone in this feeling?
Ok. I would honestly say you should have gone with a Windows tablet if you want all those... It's not a computer. It's a mobile device running a mobile os. It's not gonna be a full blown computer.
McMick said:
I've used an Android tablet for about a year now, and although I've put in a lot of time to make it useful and controllable, it still has a lot of troubling mysteries. I have a few questions for developer types that hopefully will help shed some light on things:
1. Why don't applications feature a "Close" button? In both Windows and GNU/Linux with a GUI, you get a neat little "X" at the top right of the window. Usually, when you click this, the application terminates. Is that so much to ask for on Android? The means of closing apps on Android seem to be entirely up to the devs and there doesn't appear to be a standard way at all. Some of the apps I've used on Android don't have any way to close them whatsoever, with the exception of killing them from a task manager or the "Manage Apps" section of settings.
2. Why do many of these programs suddenly and mysteriously start running entirely on their own? It's terribly frustrating for me to kill an app and in a half an hour find it there on the task manager list again, running without my having asked for it to do so. Where is this controlled? If there is some sort of task scheduler making this happen, why can't I easily see a list of scheduled tasks and choose which ones to run or not to run?
3. For programs that *are* running in the background (the ones I *want* to have running), why is it that they usually don't have some sort of taskbar icon to indicate at a glance that they are still running?
4. Why can't I see everything that's loading when the tablet starts? I guess I'm asking to see a logcat screen instead of a splash screen. GNU/Linux distros don't usually hide everything from the end user, so why isn't it optional on an Android tablet? Even in custom ROMS all I get are neat looking splash screens, not a terminal interface on boot.
5. Why doesn't a decent firewall application yet exist for Android? All I seem to be able to find are really coarse ones like Droidwall, where it's an all or nothing proposition (allow/block). I'd like to be able to control protocols, ports, zones and individual IP addresses and ranges like a good firewall on Windows or GNU/Linux allows. I am constantly under suspicion that someone is doing something on my tablet without my even being aware of it.
6. Why are permissions for applications so difficult to control? Maybe I don't want some stupid game getting a look at my contacts list. I realize I can just uninstall the game, but so many apps seem to tap into stuff that they shouldn't be allowed to, I feel like some sort of permissions control should be a default standard thing in Android. Instead all there seems to be are a couple of apps on the market that may or may not work.
7. Do any of you developers feel dissatisfied about the state of Android, and does Google take your feedback seriously?
8. Are there any forks of the Android OS that don't rely on Google for anything? I'm not 100 percent sure about the difference between a GNU and an Apache license. How much of the OS is closed-source? Is it enough to prevent a true, fully open-sourced Android-based OS from being made?
Sorry if any of these questions sound stupid, but even though Android is supposed to be more open than iOS, it's still not open enough for my tastes. I actually feel safer using Windows than Android, and that's just not how it should be. Am I alone in this feeling?
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1. Well, its a mobile OS and it would be rather annoying to have a close button on every (even most) apps. No mobile OS has had a close button
2. That's an app problem, the developer either wanted the app to do that for some function, or they made some mistake in creating causing that to happen.
3. There would be too many apps, and I doubt people want extra notifications in the status bar just informing them what's running. For example, my friends Stratosphere has a status notif whenever WiFi is connected, and it annoys the crap out of me whenever I use it.
4. Probably, because people don't care... remember Android (like WP and iOS) are supposed to appeal to consumers as a phone for "facebook, games, and internet," and if the splashscreen/bootanimation was a logcat, people would just go "wut?" Also, as smartphones get faster and faster, so does bootup time. And there wouldn't be enough time to read what's on the logcat before it fully boots and you're at the lockscreen
5. Ask the devs.
6. Once again, dev thing. They are entitled to putting whatever permission they want, and Google isn't going to stop them. Just think about it though, most people don't care about permissions. iOS doesn't display them (even though they are there) and people download apps like there's no tomorrow anyway.
7. I read somewhere that the main designer of Android was "40% complete" at ICS. It gets me excited at what's next to come, since 4.0+ is already pretty amazing.
8. I'm too retarded to understand this question
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As gagdude said for 1-7.
8. There's the Chinese Aliyun OS which looks and feels a lot like Android but doesn't rely on Google - but I would't try it. You could try Ubuntu Linux if your device supports it.
Android needs to be like apple with updates time to close source this already and just have one phone already
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Reopened, but if it gets unproviding and or heads Off Topic, well then I will readdress this thread.....
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No mobile OS has had a close button
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Wrong, PocketPC 2002, which I used for 10 years on my HTC Wallaby, had a close button for every application.
@McMick, many of your points struck a chord with me and I have often asked myself the same things since migrating to Android from Pocket PC 2002 on my HTC Wallaby. Certainly points 1, 3, 7 and 8.
Since I jumped from PPC 2002 to Android 2.3.6 I've had the same thoughts. And I was for instance surprised to see that only now (Galaxy Note 2) are the very first steps being taken towards multiple windows.
I agree with point 4 too. On a PC (Linux or Windows) you can choose whether you see what's starting (BIOS and OS boot) or prefer a reassuring animation.
5. I have Avast!Mobile Security which has what is reckoned to be one of the best firewalls for Android, but even that only has, as you say, block or allow (individually for WiFi, 3G and mobile network).
6. The trouble with limiting permissions for apps is that if they can't get the access they want, they won't work. Personally I use the app Privacy Blocker which works around that by feeding the apps you choose not to allow to snoop nonsense information.
However it's not enough just to stand on the sidelines and issue one's wishes to "the developers". The point and the spirit of XDA-developers is that we can all start modifying things if we want to. So instead of saying "Why can't I" the thing to do is to start reading and learning and seeing if you might not after all just be able to ... do something yourself when it comes to your device.
Every Android developer does what appeals to them, which is why there is such a wonderful diversity of ROMs and apps for Android, particularly here on XDA.
So get stuck in and start trying to change things on your own device for a start. On point 5 for instance, you do see a logcat screen when you boot into recovery mode, so perhaps there's a way to display that when booting. If you do get started on modifications in the directions you indicate, I shall certainly follow progress with interest.
Thanks to BigJoe2675.
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Wrong, PocketPC 2002, which I used for 10 years on my HTC Wallaby,
However it's not enough just to stand on the sidelines and issue one's wishes to "the developers". The point and the spirit of XDA-developers is that we can all start modifying things if we want to. So instead of saying "Why can't I" the thing to do is to start reading and learning and seeing if you might not after all just be able to ... do something yourself when it comes to your device.
Every Android developer does what appeals to them, which is why there is such a wonderful diversity of ROMs and apps for Android, particularly here on XDA.
So get stuck in and start trying to change things on your own device for a start. On point 5 for instance, you do see a logcat screen when you boot into recovery mode, so perhaps there's a way to display that when booting. If you do get started on modifications in the directions you indicate, I shall certainly follow progress with interest.
Thanks to BigJoe2675.
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syncopath said:
Wrong, PocketPC 2002, which I used for 10 years on my HTC Wallaby, had a close button for every application.
@McMick, many of your points struck a chord with me and I have often asked myself the same things since migrating to Android from Pocket PC 2002 on my HTC Wallaby. Certainly points 1, 3, 7 and 8.
Since I jumped from PPC 2002 to Android 2.3.6 I've had the same thoughts. And I was for instance surprised to see that only now (Galaxy Note 2) are the very first steps being taken towards multiple windows.
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OK, but I wasn't born in 2002.
Lol jk I was, but I wasn't "born" to technology back then. I got my first phone only 3 years ago or so... and that just makes it seem that close buttons are now obsolete (on Mobile OSes, at least
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OK, but I wasn't born in 2002.
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LOL as I believe they say these days. I forgive you instantly! I am amazed by your over 1000 posts in about 4 months.
McMick said:
4. Why can't I see everything that's loading when the tablet starts? I guess I'm asking to see a logcat screen instead of a splash screen. GNU/Linux distros don't usually hide everything from the end user, so why isn't it optional on an Android tablet? Even in custom ROMS all I get are neat looking splash screens, not a terminal interface on boot.
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The app [root] live logcat by the one and only Chainfire [/hyperbole] should fix this. There are free and paid versions. Something to check out if you're rooted. Please let us know of the results. Added on edit: from Google Play.
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LOL as I believe they say these days. I forgive you instantly! I am amazed by your over 1000 posts in about 4 months.
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Oh no that just means I'm a loser and I spend too much time on xda
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@bigjoe,
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PocketPC 2002, which I used for 10 years :crying::crying: sorry for this....
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Don't quite understand this message, probably due to my inability to correctly interpret emoticons (reverse autism?). Anyway, thanks for re-opening this one because I
think what is being discussed here is worthwhile. Given the pressure of spammer-threat I think the OP should respond soon (or anyone else). Otherwise it will be understandable if you close the thread if you prefer.
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Reopened, but if it gets unproviding and or heads Off Topic, well then I will readdress this thread.....
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I think I understand your priorities as moderator. This is of course a thread near the "top" of XDA and as such will far more readily attract spammers and other lowlife than further down in the more comfortable device threads where I am more used to posting. So you will want to quickly close any thread that seems to be becoming stale. Right?
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Oh no that just means I'm a loser and I spend too much time on xda
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I don't think so, over 200 thanks didn't come from nowhere!
This is off subject having prob w/ no boot sound for boot anim
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don't even know where to begin to explain the world I live in and this is the best place I can think of or somebody could possibly answer what the hell is happening.. no I will try to keep this summarized and not going to too much detail other than with the technical aspect.. so my girlfriend was going into my phone and I'm sure she was trying to get into everything possible like my Google account Instagram lineapp what'sapp snapchatocrosoft account amazon.account VK, everything... Now I'm sure somewhere along that she synced her phone because obviously a bunch of my files now ended up on her phone making her think that I somehow installed some virus to her phone which now in her mind she feels like if the phone's messing up or if the router is Messing up which my assumption is she was in the router messing around with settings and now she doesn't have internet when she goes to solve this problem she goes out and uses Wi-Fi elsewhere and now when she went back to the house she couldn't go to the Internet service provider website to be able to mess with the settings on the blue curve router from Shaw because her phone was saying she was in the states we live in canada. She's under the impression I've gone to some third party app site that allowed me to get some firmware that her words has mirrored her storage and it was my way of blocking her ability to see twitch and discord because I was obviously hiding that because I was talking I assume with other women on it ...
Alot of the issue started with the fact that I used to play a game called magic Rush and I had shared my account or given it let's say a player that continued on with it.. obviously giving the Google account because it was binded is the email to the account, caused a s*** storm of problems.. password manager was all synced across his device anything he downloaded in his Play store showed up in my history just making it look like I just deleted it.. she feels like I'm hiding files on my computer or my phone because of some of the apps he had downloaded the other guy in Guatemala that I had shared the account with he had a calculator app that was a vault for hiding files like pictures.. she's literally accused me of everything under the sun thought somehow Steam my Steam account was being used to talk to other girls or somehow I was hiding files because she would take a random file from Steam in one of the folders and when she tried to open it with when we are it would just show up like random numeric code complete gibberish and this is why I must have been hiding files I must have been encoding them because I had things like notepad++ and irfanview, she's told me that I've cloned her SIM card and I have a VPN in the states so I can use things like Vox talk or w.e phone app that's just for the states.. I'm on an s10 plus and she's on an s10 so now that we kind of got the Guatemala guy off the account there is still weird s*** going on she went into developer tools on Google Chrome and it looked at the source code when you're looking at the Google activity when you're logged into the account and it had lots of words like null and hidden and she was swearing up and down thinking that this was proof that I was being shady..
Does anyone have any idea what could have possibly moved my files onto her account whether that be through her signing into my Google s*** but I mean yeah she feels like my phone's infected her phone or my computer has infected hers and I think it was just her and experience self somehow enabling it to like share all files I don't know I can't tell you everything she's possibly gotten into but she's clicked on everything a woman could click on oh and side note if you reach this far and you read all this thank you for taking the time because this is a serious issue in my life right now this was also in the beginner or new help thread I will also attach pictures the cheese sent me over the last month or so showing that I was being shady and did some s*** to her phone that I had rooted it or mirrored her storage
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don't even know where to begin to explain the world I live in and this is the best place I can think of or somebody could possibly answer what the hell is happening.. no I will try to keep this summarized and not going to too much detail other than with the technical aspect.. so my girlfriend was going into my phone and I'm sure she was trying to get into everything possible like my Google account Instagram lineapp what'sapp snapchatocrosoft account amazon.account VK, everything... Now I'm sure somewhere along that she synced her phone because obviously a bunch of my files now ended up on her phone making her think that I somehow installed some virus to her phone which now in her mind she feels like if the phone's messing up or if the router is Messing up which my assumption is she was in the router messing around with settings and now she doesn't have internet when she goes to solve this problem she goes out and uses Wi-Fi elsewhere and now when she went back to the house she couldn't go to the Internet service provider website to be able to mess with the settings on the blue curve router from Shaw because her phone was saying she was in the states we live in canada. She's under the impression I've gone to some third party app site that allowed me to get some firmware that her words has mirrored her storage and it was my way of blocking her ability to see twitch and discord because I was obviously hiding that because I was talking I assume with other women on it ...
Alot of the issue started with the fact that I used to play a game called magic Rush and I had shared my account or given it let's say a player that continued on with it.. obviously giving the Google account because it was binded is the email to the account, caused a s*** storm of problems.. password manager was all synced across his device anything he downloaded in his Play store showed up in my history just making it look like I just deleted it.. she feels like I'm hiding files on my computer or my phone because of some of the apps he had downloaded the other guy in Guatemala that I had shared the account with he had a calculator app that was a vault for hiding files like pictures.. she's literally accused me of everything under the sun thought somehow Steam my Steam account was being used to talk to other girls or somehow I was hiding files because she would take a random file from Steam in one of the folders and when she tried to open it with when we are it would just show up like random numeric code complete gibberish and this is why I must have been hiding files I must have been encoding them because I had things like notepad++ and irfanview, she's told me that I've cloned her SIM card and I have a VPN in the states so I can use things like Vox talk or w.e phone app that's just for the states.. I'm on an s10 plus and she's on an s10 so now that we kind of got the Guatemala guy off the account there is still weird s*** going on she went into developer tools on Google Chrome and it looked at the source code when you're looking at the Google activity when you're logged into the account and it had lots of words like null and hidden and she was swearing up and down thinking that this was proof that I was being shady..
Does anyone have any idea what could have possibly moved my files onto her account whether that be through her signing into my Google s*** but I mean yeah she feels like my phone's infected her phone or my computer has infected hers and I think it was just her and experience self somehow enabling it to like share all files I don't know I can't tell you everything she's possibly gotten into but she's clicked on everything a woman could click on oh and side note if you reach this far and you read all this thank you for taking the time because this is a serious issue in my life right now this was also in the beginner or new help thread I will also attach pictures the cheese sent me over the last month or so showing that I was being shady and did some s*** to her phone that I had rooted it or mirrored her storage
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Lol! Seems like you are really under some big trouble...
By the way, did you check if partner sharing in on? And did you add her as a family member to your google account and granted permissions for her account to access yours? Check these first. Google them if you don't know how to...
And maybe prove her that her phone isn't rooted and show her that even Knox in her S10 isn't tripped concluding that you didn't do anything and maybe proving her they might have happened by mistake.
Venkata Lochan Nune said:
Lol! Seems like you are really under some big trouble...
By the way, did you check if partner sharing in on? And did you add her as a family member to your google account and granted permissions for her account to access yours? Check these first. Google them if you don't know how to...
And maybe prove her that her phone isn't rooted and show her that even Knox in her S10 isn't tripped concluding that you didn't do anything and maybe proving her they might have happened by mistake.
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So I check partner sharing and I believe that's a part of the Google photos side of Google nothing seems to be enabled I also found some other pictures that explain some of my pain I must have been encoding my drive because of the
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So I check partner sharing and I believe that's a part of the Google photos side of Google nothing seems to be enabled I also found some other pictures that explain some of my pain I must have been encoding my drive because of the
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Hmmm. Maybe try proving your innocence by the way I said..
She reads root and thinks ta da, it must be rooted... I explained all that does is allow people to like tweak their phones better sort of like jailbreaking but there's no convincing her of that
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She reads root and thinks ta da, it must be rooted... I explained all that does is allow people to like tweak their phones better sort of like jailbreaking but there's no convincing her of that
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Try proving in a way like using a root checker.
Get some one else's device and show the same root certificates...
This may help.
And did you show her that her KNOX is still intact and it did not trip.? If no, first do it... that way, you could prove that nothing just happened to her device and its still secure and not rooted.
Then maybe you could give her other explanations...
She's going to spin it like this, that I'm somehow rooting her messages like sending them off she also feels a cloned SIM card and thinks I'm just a f****** monster like I'm literally a cat playing with a mouse and torturing the person by watching them squirm with their phone and to be honest I've lost all effort and trying to defend it trying to figure out why when you take a file from Steam and go to unzip it with one RAR it shoots out weird numerical wingding.fonts I explained The Root checker thing to her and she didn't even want to check it meaning that she just doesn't know the right words to explain it to me when she says I may actually get her to come on this thread and f****** explain everything that's happening to her s*** because yeah man it's it's a serious problem
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She's going to spin it like this, that I'm somehow rooting her messages like sending them off she also feels a cloned SIM card and thinks I'm just a f****** monster like I'm literally a cat playing with a mouse and torturing the person by watching them squirm with their phone and to be honest I've lost all effort and trying to defend it trying to figure out why when you take a file from Steam and go to unzip it with one RAR it shoots out weird numerical wingding.fonts I explained The Root checker thing to her and she didn't even want to check it meaning that she just doesn't know the right words to explain it to me when she says I may actually get her to come on this thread and f****** explain everything that's happening to her s*** because yeah man it's it's a serious problem
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Ohh MMAAANNN, this is too much..
Is she still mad at you? first try calming her down. Get another device from your friend or someone else if possible and show her that every Android has such things. If she still doesn't believe, ask her to get on XDA and try a conversation with the XDA senior/staff members about all her doubts...
Try your best.
Know something? These XDA guys are really awesome. They help a lot if required.
She's going to spin it like this, that I'm somehow rooting her messages like sending them off she also feels a cloned SIM card and thinks I'm just a f****** monster like I'm literally a cat playing with a mouse and torturing the person by watching them squirm with their phone and to be honest I've lost all effort and trying to defend it trying to figure out why when you take a file from Steam and go to unzip it with one RAR it shoots out weird numerical wingding.fonts I explained The Root checker thing to her and she didn't even want to check it meaning that she just doesn't know the right words to explain it to me when she says I may actually get her to come on this thread and f****** explain everything that's happening to her s*** because yeah man it's
Bro we've gone to war over this and the f***** up part is right now it's like she's like just admit it and we can get past it... And it's like first off I'm not doing it she thinks that because I used to run a video game back in the day which was a pre-compiled server that I didn't have to do any sort of coding whatsoever other than edit like Lua and XML she feels like I'm this master coder but I'm not.. also I don't have the willpower and determination to learn or care enough to getting into her phone I just asked her to show me what I wanted to see and if she didn't want to show me it then I would have a problem I would not go about the same matter by like hacking her phone... So her she's like well if you're going to keep lying well then I can't be with somebody that's going to keep lying.. well.fk... I am going to get her on here cuz I really would like to figure out what f*** this all up
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She's going to spin it like this, that I'm somehow rooting her messages like sending them off she also feels a cloned SIM card and thinks I'm just a f****** monster like I'm literally a cat playing with a mouse and torturing the person by watching them squirm with their phone and to be honest I've lost all effort and trying to defend it trying to figure out why when you take a file from Steam and go to unzip it with one RAR it shoots out weird numerical wingding.fonts I explained The Root checker thing to her and she didn't even want to check it meaning that she just doesn't know the right words to explain it to me when she says I may actually get her to come on this thread and f****** explain everything that's happening to her s*** because yeah man it's
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Wait, why did you just resend an old msg of yours...? Doesn't make sense
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Bro we've gone to war over this and the f***** up part is right now it's like she's like just admit it and we can get past it... And it's like first off I'm not doing it she thinks that because I used to run a video game back in the day which was a pre-compiled server that I didn't have to do any sort of coding whatsoever other than edit like Lua and XML she feels like I'm this master coder but I'm not.. also I don't have the willpower and determination to learn or care enough to getting into her phone I just asked her to show me what I wanted to see and if she didn't want to show me it then I would have a problem I would not go about the same matter by like hacking her phone... So her she's like well if you're going to keep lying well then I can't be with somebody that's going to keep lying.. well.fk... I am going to get her on here cuz I really would like to figure out what f*** this all up
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First relax, tell her that you will ignore this all first get past it. Later, when every you are free and happy with something, you could explain her everything slowly.... Don't you think this will work out?
I've known for 2 years I've been hacked. Everyone I know thinks I'm crazy because for 2 years I've been convinced that my phone was being controlled remotely even though I've changed devices, profiles, and deleted more apps than I can count. Finally yesterday I dicovered Total Virus Scan and it found this. I've had at least 50 antivirus apps with no success and I was not sure if maybe I wasn't a going crazy. I even would stop using my phone for a month or more at a time because that was the only time I had issues. Whoever is behind this has taught me everything I know about android and hacking by directing me in a way that is hard to explain. I'd just see what they wanted me to do by a random page that would pop up, or sentence highlighted, or other discreet cues. If I have not had 100% accuracy on certain issues I've been informed about by following these cues I would be certain I was crazy but there has been like 50 personal issues I've been informed about by following these cues and not a single time has it been we wrong. Unfortunately I let it consume me for about a year and almost ruined my life because of it and what I've learned has seriously altered my life. Yesterday Total Virus Scan found this Keylogger, 2 Trojan, RAT in OS. How do I remove these from my OS andcatch who is behind this? Attached is screenshot of the 4 issues found. Also on SD Maid it said my device wasn't rooted but had a built-in superuser app. Can't find the screenshot I had of that but had a url of toybox. A bunch of numbers then said [email protected] something. Any help will be much appreciated. Thank you in advance.
Could you try to create a backup of those apps and upload somewhere? Maybe it is possible to check it
Try to uninstall those apps with an app uninstaller
If you are unable to uninstall those apps they might be deeply installed? Ive been under the same situation 4-5years ago
Maybe a firmware reflash would do the job but everything will get deleted so try to backup everything
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Could you try to create a backup of those apps and upload somewhere? Maybe it is possible to check it
Try to uninstall those apps with an app uninstaller
If you are unable to uninstall those apps they might be deeply installed? Ive been under the same situation 4-5years ago
Maybe a firmware reflash would do the job but everything will get deleted so try to backup everything
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It's not the apps. From what I've read one of the Trojans, the one in Google framework, is a dropper and reproduces and hides them in legit clean apps. That is why antivirus software doesn't pick them up. I've done at least 100 scan's with every malware finder I can find and this is the first time I have gotten a hit on anything but I know for a fact it's been there for at least 2 years. Everything I know about android whoever this person is taught me. It's almost as if they are a friend because they've directed me to learning about someone close to me who was doing me wrong, taught me everything I know about android and hacking, it's crazy man. I can't explain how they communicate with me all I can say is I will just see it and know. Something highlighted briefly, a random page popping up that directly coorilates with what is happening in my life, but also have tried getting money out of me and removed pictures of my wife from my device. I want to find out if it's someone I know before I remove it. If so, I'm thinking criminal charges and anything else I can do to mess with their life like they have mine. They truly destroyed my life for about 18 months and just now getting everything back together. I don't really talk about it anymore because everyone thought I went crazy but still privately search for the cause and who wmis behind it and yesterday I finally found it. Showed my mother and step son and even with these screenshots they still say I'm crazy and seeing things. Just glad I finally have proof. I can't explain what it's like to have EVERYONE around you saying you are crazy and seeing things that aren't there and knowing you aren't. It really sucks and I wouldn't wish what I've experienced the last couple years on my worst enemy.
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I've known for 2 years I've been hacked. Everyone I know thinks I'm crazy because for 2 years I've been convinced that my phone was being controlled remotely even though I've changed devices, profiles, and deleted more apps than I can count. Finally yesterday I dicovered Total Virus Scan and it found this. I've had at least 50 antivirus apps with no success and I was not sure if maybe I wasn't a going crazy. I even would stop using my phone for a month or more at a time because that was the only time I had issues. Whoever is behind this has taught me everything I know about android and hacking by directing me in a way that is hard to explain. I'd just see what they wanted me to do by a random page that would pop up, or sentence highlighted, or other discreet cues. If I have not had 100% accuracy on certain issues I've been informed about by following these cues I would be certain I was crazy but there has been like 50 personal issues I've been informed about by following these cues and not a single time has it been we wrong. Unfortunately I let it consume me for about a year and almost ruined my life because of it and what I've learned has seriously altered my life. Yesterday Total Virus Scan found this Keylogger, 2 Trojan, RAT in OS. How do I remove these from my OS andcatch who is behind this? Attached is screenshot of the 4 issues found. Also on SD Maid it said my device wasn't rooted but had a built-in superuser app. Can't find the screenshot I had of that but had a url of toybox. A bunch of numbers then said [email protected] something. Any help will be much appreciated. Thank you in advance.
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You need to utube Beef, it's a exploit that takes over your browser that's started with script embedded in a web page, text, messenger msg, etx. You may confuse it with malware because the attackers will gain the same info if not more by using social engineering.
remove all google accounts from settings, perform a factory reset, create new google account and check Total Virus Scan again.
You can use same google account just don’t restore data
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You can use same google account just don’t restore data
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I don't recommend this as google account is device administrator, anyone knowing that password can remotely install apps
I've got an A32 5G that functionally performs ok. it's had some slow loading pages recently and some YouTube videos buffering, which I attributed to the recent system updates as well as the move to 5g in my area. I still think these are the likely sources of my lower performance, but. . ... I went to grc.com and ran their Shields Up test the other day, probing all common ports. my results came back that I have a port 179 open about 95% of the time (meaning I've ran the test quite a few times since then, only a few of those times it showed stealth). appx. 10% of the time I ran the test, it showed port 1, and port 1&2 closed, but not stealthed. the other test results showed them to be stealthed.
prior to now, and when having my friends run the tests on their phones, my former and everyone else's current results were 100% stealthed.
my questions -
1. can a few of you with the same phone as me run the same tests and see what your results are. (it's at grc.com, then Shields Up, then Shields Up, then proceed, then All Service Ports)
2. short of resetting the phone, how do I find out the source or cause of this port being open? (I've done a lot so far, none of which has helped, so I won't bore anyone just yet)
3. is there a better section to post this in?
See if you can ID the app using it with a firewall.
If running on Pie or below Karma Firewall will detect apps accessing the internet.
If you can't ID and eliminate it, factory reset.
You are what you install and download, exercise caution.
This is what I get when I run that check:
the only apps on my phone are Firefox & Brave browsers, CX File Explorer, File Viewer, New Pipe, SMS Backup & Restore, and a few games from Yiotro.
never been on Facebook, nor any other social media
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See if you can ID the app using it with a firewall.
If running on Pie or below Karma Firewall will detect apps accessing the internet.
If you can't ID and eliminate it, factory reset.
You are what you install and download, exercise caution.
This is what I get when I run that check:
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the test I was referring to was this one
and I'm on Android 12. the firewall approach is null with that?
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the test I was referring to was this one
and I'm on Android 12. the firewall approach is null with that?
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Lol, I scanned that exe with Virustotal and while most might trust it... I don't!
Android 12 will gut firewall apps not designed to run on it. Even 10 does this.
A big reason I still run on Pie; functionality for trusted apps.
Nuke it if there's any doubt. Change Google account password, check if its been breached.
Likely something you installed...
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Lol, I scanned that exe with Virustotal and while most might trust it... I don't!
Android 12 will gut firewall apps not designed to run on it. Even 10 does this.
A big reason I still run on Pie; functionality for trusted apps.
Nuke it if there's any doubt. Change Google account password, check if its been breached.
Likely something you installed...
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how do you keep your system from updating?
mine is set to only do it over wifi, and I never use wifi (literally never) and eventually it gives in I guess and downloads it over my data connection. I've got auto updates on the play store turned off and I've never had anything update without my choosing to, again, thru just the play store.
I'm fairly certain that Steve Gibson, the guy that runs the Security Now site and podcast is a 100% safe environment.
*I also realize my recommendations on what's safe and what's not mean nothing, especially given the thread I just started, lol.
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how do you keep your system from updating?
mine is set to only do it over wifi, and I never use wifi (literally never) and eventually it gives in I guess and downloads it over my data connection. I've got auto updates on the play store turned off and I've never had anything update without my choosing to, again, thru just the play store.
I'm fairly certain that Steve Gibson, the guy that runs the Security Now site and podcast is a 100% safe environment.
*I also realize my recommendations on what's safe and what's not mean nothing, especially given the thread I just started, lol.
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I use a package disabler to block OTA updates.
A nasty little app...
I think his site's probably ok, but caution is best when in doubt. My current load is over 2 yo and runs very well.
I've just spent the past 5 hours doing a full restore on my phone. I just ran the scan again and I got the same effing results. will someone please, for the love of all that is good in this world, pretty friggin please, run that scan and see if they get the same port open? please.
you don't even have to do the whole scan, which takes all of 30 seconds. just type 179 in the box and hit enter. it will open open to another page and you hit the 'probe this port' button. it's Steve Gibsons website. it's safe. he's one of the grandfathers of internet security.
Lol, doesn't sound that safe judging by your results. You should have loaded just that app and scanned. May be a false result.
No known rootkit can survive a factory reset on Android 9 and up. So either it's a normal result, glitch or you reloaded the malware... probably one of the games.
Install Karma Firewall (it may not install on 12), one by one block 3rd party apps and so on, then scan until you find it.
Or factory reset again and run the scan... first.
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Lol, doesn't sound that safe judging by your results. You should have loaded just that app and scanned. May be a false result.
No known rootkit can survive a factory reset on Android 9 and up. So either it's a normal result, glitch or you reloaded the malware... probably one of the games.
Install Karma Firewall (it may not install on 12), one by one block 3rd party apps and so on, then scan until you find it.
Or factory reset again and run the scan... first.
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didn't reload the games (they're zero permission games from an awesome source though). I did a reinstall of DDG browser, File Viewer, SMS Backup & Restore, and Textra. I went through all my permissions and deleted all the b.s. bloatware, fired up the browser and went and ran the test. same results. I've ran the test a bunch over the years, first time with that result ever a few days ago.
I'm going to order a new phone tomorrow. if I'm lucky, it'll be in in time for me to blow this thing up on the 4th.
*I also ran the test at a few other port scanners prior to the reset. one of 3 didn't show the port open, the others did. I haven't rechecked it at those places after the fact
*it doesn't sound like you're familiar with Steve Gibson or his work. it'd be worth poking around his website a little. also listening to or reading transcripts of his weekly podcast he's done for years. that website is as pure as the driven snow.
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Lol, doesn't sound that safe judging by your results. You should have loaded just that app and scanned. May be a false result.
No known rootkit can survive a factory reset on Android 9 and up. So either it's a normal result, glitch or you reloaded the malware... probably one of the games.
Install Karma Firewall (it may not install on 12), one by one block 3rd party apps and so on, then scan until you find it.
Or factory reset again and run the scan... first.
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and to clarify, it's not an app. you go there with your browser and click on a button. it's just a web page, it's just a button. you don't even need Javascript to be on at his website.
*and while I appreciate your offering up that .apk, I'm not in the habit of sideloading apps from a barely known source. that's a small example of what makes this problem I'm having so perplexing.
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and to clarify, it's not an app. you go there with your browser and click on a button. it's just a web page, it's just a button. you don't even need Javascript to be on at his website.
*and while I appreciate your offering up that .apk, I'm not in the habit of sideloading apps from a barely known source. that's a small example of what makes this problem I'm having so perplexing.
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Won't run in my browser. Tried disabling a few things that might have blocked it, no go.
My current setup hasn't had any malware issues, has been fast and stable for over 2 years so I'm not playing with it further than this for no good reason.
I don't have in depth knowledge of these protocols. Been a long while since I setup a router. Meh, although I'm curious about this... but it's your rabbit hole to chase down. It's a pretty deep hole.
Karma Firewall been updated.
NetGuard is fully functional on 12, root not needed. I haven't played with this yet.
Install a firewall and see if you can spot it...
if you went there, and proceeded like this, with or without Javascript on (my default everywhere is its off unless I decide to give sites that liberty), I can't see how in the world it's not running. I appreciate your time regardless.
A link be nice...
Here's would I got on my N10+/Pie:
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A link be nice...
Here's would I got on my N10+/Pie:
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that's the unplug and pray test. I can't provide a link to anything (try anything you would be able to create a link from at a typical site and you'll see it doesn't work there) but the main page because of the way his site is set up. here's hopefully a better picture of what you are pressing, and what to choose instead.
*check your link, which doesn't go where you think it does, and he explains why not.