I've got my Inspire rooted and working pretty well, but still S-ON with RADIO: 12.69a.60.29U_26.17.14.11_m. I'm now looking at flashing a new ROM.
After looking at a lot of ROMs, reading about Radios, I've begun to wonder about Radio compatibility. For example the Android Revolution recommends a different Radio than I have. Some ROMs suggest flashing the Inspiremod which also recommends an different Radio.
From reading various threads it is stated clearly that S-OFF is required to "Fastboot Flash" a radio.zip.
banangranola,
Originally Posted by RadarZgin View Post
soo how about radios? ive seen alot of them
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can't flash radios with S-On. Only with S-Off.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
and glevitan wrote,
Unlocking the bootloader will allow you to flash CWM recovery and custom roms, but again not radios or boot images in recovery (you have to do it manually).which might imply it can be dome manually.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If ROMs/inspiremod recommend other radios and I can't flash a radio s-on, I assume radio performance will suffer.
Given the additional risks associated with Radio flashing I might prefer to avoid it. However, it seems to put a serious limit on the ROMs I can use. What's the alternative? Is there a way to flash radio S-ON?
I was reading about using "fastboot boot recoveryname.img" to flash a ROM without doing the fastboot of Boot.img. Would this work for Radio?
I'm guessing not, but thought I'd ask.
Try flashing the ROM without flashing the radio. If wifi, bluetooth, data, and all those other fun radio things work fine, don't worry about it. Radio recommendations are merely recommendations, not requirements. Of course, however, if you do notice a performance problem, then you'll need to weigh the decision for yourself. And no, I don't think fastboot flashing the image will work.
bananagranola said:
Try flashing the ROM without flashing the radio. If wifi, bluetooth, data, and all those other fun radio things work fine, don't worry about it. Radio recommendations are merely recommendations, not requirements. Of course, however, if you do notice a performance problem, then you'll need to weigh the decision for yourself. And no, I don't think fastboot flashing the image will work.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's what I'll do, just flash it.
One other question about radio-
I've tried to research this but the radio issue is still confusing. With so many ROMs built for the DHD, and I assume configured for Europe, how's that effect use in North America? I've found patches (AGPS patch and inspiremod), but is it the ROM or Radio that determines network protocols?
I had an I4G, and I used many DHD ROMs without seeing any radio or reception issues. I don't know anything more in-depth than that.
bananagranola said:
I had an I4G, and I used many DHD ROMs without seeing any radio or reception issues. I don't know anything more in-depth than that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, if I come up with anything I'll post it.
Edit: By the way I flashed my first ROM today. Went smoothly. Been tweaking and testing today.
Cremnomaniac said:
Well, if I come up with anything I'll post it.
Edit: By the way I flashed my first ROM today. Went smoothly. Been tweaking and testing today.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Welcome to the dark side. Flashoholicism awaits.
i have the same issue
which do you recommend flashing rom? I'm interested in a jelly bean .. I'm on the stock and the same radio you mentioned in the first post, I have ROOT and CWM and unlocked bootloader
Thanx in advance
Lussardi said:
which do you recommend flashing rom? I'm interested in a jelly bean .. I'm on the stock and the same radio you mentioned in the first post, I have ROOT and CWM and unlocked bootloader
Thanx in advance
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't. I don't have the experience, and if you spend a little time reading other posts which ask the SAME question you'll find an answer.
The answer is there are too many, and too many variations to say which is best for you.
Guess you'll just have to do some homework.
Now that I'm home I have links to ROMs that others have compiled. Good luck.
Development list... ROMs, Kernels and more
DHD Development List: ROMs, Kernels, and More
Related
I'm pretty new to all this ROM stuff but have managed to install 2 or 3 ROMS over the past week. The only problems I've been having are the same as what everyone else has been posting. However, it turns out that I didn't rooted my Magic first before installing any of the ROMS. There doesn't seem to be any damage done and the phone still works as it should.
My question is, what's the benefit of rooting when I'm able to install the modified ROMS without rooting first?
PS. I have a Vodafone 32B
None AFAIK, the modified roms tend to be rooted anyway.
Malky1903 said:
I'm pretty new to all this ROM stuff but have managed to install 2 or 3 ROMS over the past week. The only problems I've been having are the same as what everyone else has been posting. However, it turns out that I didn't rooted my Magic first before installing any of the ROMS. There doesn't seem to be any damage done and the phone still works as it should.
My question is, what's the benefit of rooting when I'm able to install the modified ROMS without rooting first?
PS. I have a Vodafone 32B
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What enables you to flash any ROM out there, which is signed with a test key is a different recovery rom and a different SPL, which I assume you have on your phone since you can use different kind of roms. Rooting is not nessesary to install them.
Sorry. Should have made myself clearer. It's more about changing the SPL and Radio. Does this make any difference?
Malky1903 said:
Sorry. Should have made myself clearer. It's more about changing the SPL and Radio. Does this make any difference?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Read here.
So I am new to the android scene, but I am having a blast! I have just a couple of questions that I have, and I am sure that others have as well, so I figured I would compile them in this thread, then others with answers can chime in.
Q. What exactly does flashing the radio mean?
Q. What exactly does flashing a Kernel mean?
Q. When flashing a ROM, does that mean the containing ROM will flash the kernel and radio automatically?
Thats a start...
colbur87 said:
So I am new to the android scene, but I am having a blast! I have just a couple of questions that I have, and I am sure that others have as well, so I figured I would compile them in this thread, then others with answers can chime in.
Q. What exactly does flashing the radio mean?
Q. What exactly does flashing a Kernel mean?
Q. When flashing a ROM, does that mean the containing ROM will flash the kernel and radio automatically?
Thats a start...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am a newb too and I find it hard to get responses to newb ques. Let me answer to the best of my knowledge.
Flashing a radio is actually that. It's like flashing a router. The software changes and it can be a bit risky. Never have done it myself and probably won't unless I see a good reason too. ROM's like revolution don't require it.
Kernal is the boot portion of the phone. flashing it can give you the ability to overclock. Not quite sure what else as I learned this yesterday.
ROM is the operating system essentialy. I think there are some rom's out there that flash the kernal automatically but not the radio. No ROM will flash a radio
Hope that helps!
Hello,
I am planning on giving in for a few ROMs, but read they need to have a new radio flashed as well. How risky is this? Or, whats the WORST that could go wrong? I know that when flashing a ROM, the worst is that it wont flash right and cause a semi-brick that is easily fixed by flashing a backup ROM.
But, what about if you flash a radio and THAT gets FUBARed? Is it just as easily fixed as restoring with your latest backup?
I am not serious enough to try flashing ROMs if there is the potential for a 100% brick. I am a noob, but can follow directions well. (Or as well as they are written).
Thanks,
Matt
Actually flashing a radio is the most risky thing. If you screw up, you can brick it. However, I flashed it without problems and it's very easy. Just make sure you didn't download a corrupted file
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
idavid_ said:
Actually flashing a radio is the most risky thing. If you screw up, you can brick it. However, I flashed it without problems and it's very easy. Just make sure you didn't download a corrupted file
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yikes! So there is the chance for a 100% brick then? Is there a way out of this? Its too bad that there isnt a way around having to do this...
What are some steps to take to get the absolute best chance at this? Also, does this mean that if I wanted to return to my stock ROM, I would have to find my stock radio and re-flash all that too?
Seems this may not be worth it, for me just yet...I was just curious to see how the dual core support ROMs are compared to stock.
Matt
mrg02d said:
Yikes! So there is the chance for a 100% brick then? Is there a way out of this? Its too bad that there isnt a way around having to do this...
What are some steps to take to get the absolute best chance at this? Also, does this mean that if I wanted to return to my stock ROM, I would have to find my stock radio and re-flash all that too?
Seems this may not be worth it, for me just yet...I was just curious to see how the dual core support ROMs are compared to stock.
Matt
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you want to revert to stock you just have to run the official RUU found here.
Download the one that matches your region
Regarding whether its worth it or not, the risk of bricking your phone is very small, and if you check the md5 sum its virtually nonexistant
frederikh said:
If you want to revert to stock you just have to run the official RUU found here.
Download the one that matches your region
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hello,
I know how to do that, as well as use recovery to use my backup, but my question is whether or not a failed radio flash can 100% kill your phone?
For instance, lets say I am flashing whatever radio I was advised to use for a ROM and then I get some error. Would I be screwed, or could I just flash my backup or use the RUU to be back in business?
Matt
mrg02d said:
Yikes! So there is the chance for a 100% brick then? Is there a way out of this? Its too bad that there isnt a way around having to do this...
What are some steps to take to get the absolute best chance at this? Also, does this mean that if I wanted to return to my stock ROM, I would have to find my stock radio and re-flash all that too?
Seems this may not be worth it, for me just yet...I was just curious to see how the dual core support ROMs are compared to stock.
Matt
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1. ROMs are very easy to flash. As said, the Radio is much riskier to do than the ROM itself (although the comments about changing Radio having a low chance of bricking your phone if the process is done right are probably true).
2. Dual core support is not yet properly done. From all the feedback I've seen, it looks like a lot of devs have already pulled dual core support when people were saying it hardly increased performance while adding other issues. That said, it's still worth it to try custom ROMs because they offer speed improvements even without dual core support yet.
3. You can try custom ROMs without changing radios. I know I did (I'm currently on CoreDroid 2.3 and I didn't touch the radio), and my stock radio has given me the same data speeds and battery life I saw stock. There are a number of people who don't ever change the radio when they try different ROMs and they too have no problems. Ultimately, if you really don't want to change radios, just try out different ROMs until you find one that works well with the stock radio (and if you're like me it will only take your 1st shot to find one that does). I recommend going this route (flashing ROMs but not changing the stock radio) until you've done a lot of reading/searching about changing radios and gathered the courage to do it.
Question to the experienced Dev's on this One-S forum - what do you think are the chances of achieving S-OFF for the One-S in addition to the Unlocked bootloader ?
I remember S-OFF took a little while for the HTC Desire platform and was wondering if you felt it was just a matter of time before someone figured a way for the One-S or have HTC locked us out permanently ?
I enjoy the freedom of loading Custom ROMs with the unlocked bootloader, but to be stuck on the original shipped baseband/radio feels like we are handcuffed using devices that we own!
Thoughts appreciated...
Not a dev, but, sure we will. Got it on the N1 months ago--
This thread may help you get the newer radio--haven't read all of it though--
S-OFF will come !!! I know it will..
There are several people on these forums with a S-OFF One S already !! but they came shipped like that, either by fault or a developer phone...
All we need is some dumps from them and a lot of time and patience and we will be there.... I make it sound easy lol..........its not !
b8drf said:
Question to the experienced Dev's on this One-S forum - what do you think are the chances of achieving S-OFF for the One-S in addition to the Unlocked bootloader ?
I remember S-OFF took a little while for the HTC Desire platform and was wondering if you felt it was just a matter of time before someone figured a way for the One-S or have HTC locked us out permanently ?
I enjoy the freedom of loading Custom ROMs with the unlocked bootloader, but to be stuck on the original shipped baseband/radio feels like we are handcuffed using devices that we own!
Thoughts appreciated...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Seems like a PIA to me, but according to this thread (and following the very long, very detailed How-To) you can flash a radio.
As for S-Off, who knows. I haven't seen or read anywhere that anyone is working on that.
setzer715 said:
Seems like a PIA to me, but according to this thread (and following the very long, very detailed How-To) you can flash a radio.
As for S-Off, who knows. I haven't seen or read anywhere that anyone is working on that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That thread does not detail how to flash a radio. It simply is a tutorial for reverting to 1.53 Stock so the OTA can update the radio. If we could flash radios, we could probably flash one with the security bit flipped and have a true S-OFF. Alas, we're far from it...
greenkabbage said:
That thread does not detail how to flash a radio. It simply is a tutorial for reverting to 1.53 Stock so the OTA can update the radio. If we could flash radios, we could probably flash one with the security bit flipped and have a true S-OFF. Alas, we're far from it...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, didn't read all the steps. Another PIA way is flash the RUU with that Radio, then root and flash the ROM you want. Sorry, without S-Off guess we're SOL.
Hey all, I'm sorry if this seems an odd question, but I'm still trying to get my head wrapped around the process of how the One S gets different features flashed to the device.
I don't have my One S yet (Hopefully it'll arrive later today, 7/27) but I wanted to be prepared when it arrives.
It seems the links are broken in this post and it's stating that this thread is outdated.
If I'm going to flash a new ROM on the device, are the radios generally included in that ROM already? I see that you often times need to manually flash BOOT.IMG on a per-ROM basis due to not having s-off? I'm comfortable with all of that, I just want to make sure that I'm not missing anything, and unfortunately it seems as though there is little information in some of the threads on XDA that clearly answer my question.
Call it a personality defect, I just like to 100% understand something in every possible way before being able to attempt it. Unfortunately when I don't have the device in front of me, it prevents me from being able to do that, but that's what forums are for, right?
Cheers all, I appreciate anyone taking the time to answer my question.
TooSlo said:
Hey all, I'm sorry if this seems an odd question, but I'm still trying to get my head wrapped around the process of how the One S gets different features flashed to the device.
I don't have my One S yet (Hopefully it'll arrive later today, 7/27) but I wanted to be prepared when it arrives.
It seems the links are broken in this post and it's stating that this thread is outdated.
If I'm going to flash a new ROM on the device, are the radios generally included in that ROM already? I see that you often times need to manually flash BOOT.IMG on a per-ROM basis due to not having s-off? I'm comfortable with all of that, I just want to make sure that I'm not missing anything, and unfortunately it seems as though there is little information in some of the threads on XDA that clearly answer my question.
Call it a personality defect, I just like to 100% understand something in every possible way before being able to attempt it. Unfortunately when I don't have the device in front of me, it prevents me from being able to do that, but that's what forums are for, right?
Cheers all, I appreciate anyone taking the time to answer my question.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The latest radio with android 4.0.4 rom is said to be much better in terms of performace of wifi and cellular data signal then all previous versions, unfortunately buying a phone at this stage means that you probably will have a later hboot version 1.13 and this hboot doesnt allow flashing radio from recovery like the previous versions. You can find out more info about the radio in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781033
To answer your other question the radio has to be flashed separately from the ROM. Hopefully your phone comes with a lower hboot so flashing wont be a problem, make sure you dont accept the ota update out of the box like i did so u dont accidently get an upgraded hboot. Makes life more diificult ;p.
Its a used phone and is already running CM9, so I'm hoping its the older boot. I already made sure it was the S4, but I just realized that the unlocked phones don't support TMOUS bands, so I'm a bit screwed at the moment.
I don't know what the next step is for me, so I may be forced to move to Straight Talk until I can get another 100% compatible TMOUS phone. I saw it has 2100 HSPA radio frequencies so I had assumed it would work on TMOUS. Needless to say I feel pretty stupid now.
Thanks again for the links, they were exactly what I was looking for!
Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk 2
just boot into bootloader it will tell you hboot. i think .06 is stock one
there are radio links here .10 latest for us--if you want 4.0.4 one--research needed
http://ville.giev.de/?page_id=42
flash thru twrp or if cwr you must boot into recovery thru fastboot then flash
Radio from 4.04 update and hboot 1.13
rugmankc said:
just boot into bootloader it will tell you hboot. i think .06 is stock one
there are radio links here .10 latest for us--if you want 4.0.4 one--research needed
http://ville.giev.de/?page_id=42
flash thru twrp or if cwr you must boot into recovery thru fastboot then flash
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry for putting this question another time, but the answers concerning this are treated in a lot of different threads, just to confirm:
I am on Leedroid 2.1, Radio Version 0.1631501S.17_2_10.23.31501S.10L; i have Hboot 1.13,
I there a possibility for me to flash this new radio radio from update 4.04??
Regards, Dwino
Dwino said:
Sorry for putting this question another time, but the answers concerning this are treated in a lot of different threads, just to confirm:
I am on Leedroid 2.1, Radio Version 0.1631501S.17_2_10.23.31501S.10L; i have Hboot 1.13,
I there a possibility for me to flash this new radio radio from update 4.04??
Regards, Dwino
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you want to get this new radio, the only way to do it at this moment is to change to SuperCID and follow the steps from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781033