Android, Galaxy S4, and the meaning of it all - Android General

Okay, so ive been rooting sgs3 devices for family and friends, and I know for the most part WHAT im doing..
Though I still cant seem to fathom one thing.
Ive got a sgs4 now.. GT-I9505.. its a 4g model, kicks ass.. but I want to root it.. now everywhere I read there a models that dont match mine.. now mine is an
XXUAMDE model, and I find every variation other than this.. what I wanna know is how exactly do I determine if my american counterparts will work if I try to use their methods.
Until now my skills have only gotten as far as being able to use premade toolkits and such with my own flair in the areas I think I understand..
Ill be honest, im still classified as a total noob, but I REALLY want to learn more, though have no mentor to run to..
So my question(s) basically are:
How do I determine what rooting methods I find here are safe for my aussie s4(is it commonly reffered to as the international models??)
And what is the most barebones method of rooting;
Eg: plug cable in, upload files x,y,z to phone, punch in command x, add su, bam..?
I just cant seem to grasp a method or explanation that seems to go into the bare details. . Sorry for my ignorance but frankly I have trouble knowing where to post this as I know there is multiple threads for9r the S4 alone.
Thank you in advance for any constuctive conversation, would prefer people comming to only tell me how ignorant I am not post at all.
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No signal network operators :(

so i just loaded froyo 2.2 and the A853_Telus_Upgrade_SHOLS_U2_03.11.0_USASHLSMR2TLSB1B2B506D.0R_Service1FF.sbf for the boot load, everythin works, but i have no signal. help would be greatly appreciated, thanks
Tonka, no offense intended, but why do we need four new threads from you, all pretty much relating to the same issue?
furthermore, if you had read the guide posted with the ROM, you would've known to back up your radio files BEFORE flashing...
after flashing and restoring them, if it's still not working, there are posts in the ROM's thread that include links to the radio files to various popular carriers, almost all of which work.
I got my radio files from someone on the forum here, you can too.
btw, RTFM. honestly.
im sorry, its jus i kept encountering other problems along the way, but would u please give me the link to these radio files, an tell me where id have to place them. thanks
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im sorry, its jus i kept encountering other problems along the way, but would u please give me the link to these radio files, an tell me where id have to place them. thanks
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sure, here's a great link for you to get started with...
http://www.google.com
ur an asshole
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ur an asshole
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thanks for the compliment.
to be totally frank, I had many of the same issues you did. From this forum alone, I'm up and running full time on the MotoFrenzy 2.2 build.
I only got working because there's plenty of other people who have had the same problem who have ALREADY documented the fixes.
If you look hard enough, I bet you'll find them too.
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this reminds me of the old addage about teaching a man to fish... just in this case, it's about teaching a man to search.
well it would save me a lot of time if you could just help me, like i just have one question,i got the working radio files from system/etc/motorola/bp_nvm_default/
an copied:
File_Audio
File_Audio2
File_GSM
File_Seem_Flex_Tables
generic_pds_init
now i jus dont know how to replace them witht eh froyo 2.2 ones. could u help me?
I really can't. I already spent a significant amount of time searching for answers in the loins of this forum for myself... I don't have time to do it for you too.
To be honest its quite the selfish request you're making there... hmmm... and you call me an asshole then expect me to help. Ha. No thanks.
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just check out the first couple of pages of dexter's post, it's all in there
not to interfere with the debate,
but an honest answer is also, if you cannot understand the steps explained, i would not recommend trying to install any mods for openrecovery and messing with the files in the system..
you can easily corrupt the image, and you will spend even more time on trying to figure out why A is not working , while B,C,D problem suddenly occur causing A not to function..
I know HTC made it easy for all modders to make custom firmwares using almost identical radio's and only in some cases, it goes really bad for some regions, but in our case Motrola decided to make the baseband a huge part of the drivers and way to resolve communication and even make it provider locked or complex in a way i cannot even explain. (preferred providers over others as example, custom mobile services as another)
many HTC mods, includes support for like 12-15 countries in one image, looking at "locale" supported, where motorola pushes 12 different firmwares out..i personally only mess with a UK as it worked fine for me, trying to make the other 11 work, would require much more support and engagement in the technical aspects of the mod..we are lucky a few document and write feedback on how they accomplished to make it work (telus as example)
I couldn't agree more.
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got it all working

App to flash/root your phone?

Hi,
Does anyone know if there is an app on android market that flashes your phone for you? How about one that roots it? I'm have no idea if this is even possible, but it would sure be great, since there are a lot of non technical people out there who would really like to try all the new fancy roms around.
thanks
Rafa
There are apps like this, it really depends on what kind of phone you're using. What phone do you have?
Learn to be technical, not ask for handouts..
You think the experienced people here came right into coding an app? Get a how to manual or search google.. There's plenty of tutorials around that could help.. Not saying start a root app, but start with a soundboard our something..
We need more explorers on this site, not beggars.. But good luck in all your future endeavors..
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its really easy to do it the legit way.
depending on what phone you have just go to unrevoked and read read read read then read some more i did mine all by myself in a couple hours. the first time around now i am able to root someones phone in less then 20 min. not a big deal once you learn the proper way to do things
teach a man to fish he eats his hole life. (or some **** like that)
Sadly here in Brazil things don't come as cheap as they do for other countries and an unlocked Galaxy S costs about 1000us$, so forgive me if I'm more than a bit iffy about starting to experiment with it.
Getting back to the point, I've read about Universal Androot, but it doesn't support the Galaxy S series.
Find z4 root right here on xda. It'll do it all for you in one click. From there you can get titanium backup and then rom manager. Go to the samsung captivate forum and read all the sticky threads in full. Be thorough and careful and make sure you know what you're doing.
That should take care of you.
Many thanks. Greatly appreciated.

[Q] urgent

Dear sir
I wonder, what do I get from rooting my x10 ?
Smh wtf omg
Really I want some one to tell me, I am new and I have no clue at all
Please
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I guess motivation is out of fashion these days. :/
First of all, this isn't "urgent".
Second of all, if you don't know why then don't do it. If you have to go searching for reasons (okay, I don't think you searched... so asking) then there's no reason. You'll void your warranty and, if you don't know what you're doing, possibly brick your phone. Is it worth doing that just because you can?
When I started researching rooting, I knew why. I had a ton of reasons why, and I have even more now that I've done it. Surprisingly, tethering has never been one, and I've still yet to use it despite being rooted for about 8 months.
If you have real reasons to do it, then read everything you can before doing so. I would even read my device's Q&A forum just so I'd have the answers ahead of time.
Honestly, I don't think you should. While it opens a lot of options, it's not something you do "just because".
I would give you reasons, but if you really want to root you need to learn to search, read, and understand for yourself.
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Plainjane is correct, I highly suggest research into this subject a lot more before doing anything.

Bricked one phone.. Got replacement. Need Help

Okay so I had a G2x and tried rooting it and I think i did something wrong. With all these instructions ramble on about one thing and another hard for me to really understand all the correct steps.
So can I please have someone give me a hand with this? As in a step by step process of everything? This is my second G2X brand new from T-Mobile has the Gingerbread 2.3.3. So if anyone can actually tell me step by step and what files I am going to need so I don't brick this one because 300USD is getting expensive.
u payed for ur replacement? lol
use the one click flash nvidia tool, to flash the clockworkmod, you dont evne have to root it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG08Uc8pQT0
yeah I had to pay for a second one. GRRR T-Mo actually checks their phones with sprint if I bricked or something just dip it in water and send it in. They would never check to see if you rooted it. So anyways do I install Clockwork or only do the steps in the video with the nv flasher?
And whats the best rom? I really like the looks of MIUI sorta looks like my wifes iPhone.
i think you screwed yourself on this one... this phone is like virtually unbrickable, nvflash should be able to bring you out of any soft bricks you might run into and ive run into a fair share of them and never had a problem...
i would recommend you sift though the development section and read all of the tutorials and have a very good understanding of what you are doing instead of having someone spoonfeed you everything when you really dont know what you are doing... (im a high school math teacher and cannot stand it when students are just spoonfed information because in the end they really dont understand what they are doing)
start here though http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847
Yeah, what he said. maybe you shouldn't be messing with your phone if you don't understand the implications.
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(im a high school math teacher and cannot stand it when students are just spoonfed information because in the end they really dont understand what they are doing)
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+1
Best thing I've ever read. It helps shine a light on why so many people almost daily are asking for help on how to do something when this forum is riddled with tutorials. I personally stopped helping months ago with any questions on how to root or flash or just anything that there are tutorials for. It just gets crazy redundant.
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Beekersguy said:
Yeah, what he said. maybe you shouldn't be messing with your phone if you don't understand the implications.
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JHaste said:
(im a high school math teacher and cannot stand it when students are just spoonfed information because in the end they really dont understand what they are doing)
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guitarist5122 said:
+1
Best thing I've ever read. It helps shine a light on why so many people almost daily are asking for help on how to do something when this forum is riddled with tutorials. I personally stopped helping months ago with any questions on how to root or flash or just anything that there are tutorials for. It just gets crazy redundant.
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Then why even post in here? Don't be a ****. Even more frustrating than people who can't use a search feature are people too uptight and high-strung to help someone. Yeah, maybe the OP could have found the answer himself. But he's obviously been following a tutorial (likely in this very forum) that's not working for him (hence his replacement phone). The guy just needs two seconds of help from someone. In the amount of time it took me to copy/paste the following links, I could have torn him a new one thirty times over. But I'm not a ****. So, if you absolutely HAVE to post here, at least make it constructive. Incessant *****ing does no good for anyone.
To the OP:
Firstly, you'll need to flash CWM. This is super simple, given you're on a PC. If you're on Mac, things will get tricky (i.e. virtual Linux environment, headaches, etc).
Next, you can find an easy to follow rooting method here. It even has an unroot .zip option given you have to send your phone in again (will save you another $300 ).
And of course, you can PM me if you need any help. If these are the steps you have already followed, here's a YouTube video with some visuals. When I'm stuck on something, that usually helps me a lot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CEjInNY5Y0
Good luck!
Uhhhh... i really dont understand how i was being a ****... I simply stated that he should have a holistic understanding of what hes doing before he starts tinkering because the figure it out as you go method can lead to a 300 dollar paper weight. Not to mention I pointed him in the right direction to start....
All I did was give a bit of advice that I felt was in his best interest and then sent him on his way...
If you think what I originally posted was flaming then you clearly have never seen me tear somebody a new one lol
Dont worry man
sent from my Sensation XD
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Then why even post in here? Don't be a ****. Even more frustrating than people who can't use a search feature are people too uptight and high-strung to help someone.
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Cuz I thought what he said was funny and agreed. I didnt realize the average joe had the right to question peoples right to agree and post. Don't get self-righteous on us.
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ericalanMICHAEL said:
Then why even post in here? Don't be a ****. Even more frustrating than people who can't use a search feature are people too uptight and high-strung to help someone. Yeah, maybe the OP could have found the answer himself. But he's obviously been following a tutorial (likely in this very forum) that's not working for him (hence his replacement phone). The guy just needs two seconds of help from someone. In the amount of time it took me to copy/paste the following links, I could have torn him a new one thirty times over. But I'm not a ****. So, if you absolutely HAVE to post here, at least make it constructive. Incessant *****ing does no good for anyone.
To the OP:
Firstly, you'll need to flash CWM. This is super simple, given you're on a PC. If you're on Mac, things will get tricky (i.e. virtual Linux environment, headaches, etc).
Next, you can find an easy to follow rooting method here. It even has an unroot .zip option given you have to send your phone in again (will save you another $300 ).
And of course, you can PM me if you need any help. If these are the steps you have already followed, here's a YouTube video with some visuals. When I'm stuck on something, that usually helps me a lot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CEjInNY5Y0
Good luck!
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They are being difficult. What they realize is that the OP has already stated that he's bricked one device because he cannot follow directions. He obviously does not know what he's doing, and has problems following instructions because, as he put it..they go on and on... In the end even if he successfully roots his phone, he may wind up causing himself problems by having access to system files because it's obvious he doesn't really know what he's doing. Everyone shouldn't root. If you cannot follow the simple instructions to root without "bricking" a device, and you cannot follow simple instructions to bring the device back to an operational state, then perhaps rooting is not for you (OP). It just sounds like he is going to cause himself even more problems.
mysterioustko said:
They are being difficult. What they realize is that the OP has already stated that he's bricked one device because he cannot follow directions. He obviously does not know what he's doing, and has problems following instructions because, as he put it..they go on and on... In the end even if he successfully roots his phone, he may wind up causing himself problems by having access to system files because it's obvious he doesn't really know what he's doing. Everyone shouldn't root. If you cannot follow the simple instructions to root without "bricking" a device, and you cannot follow simple instructions to bring the device back to an operational state, then perhaps rooting is not for you (OP). It just sounds like he is going to cause himself even more problems.
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^^this... root access to phones is not a hand out, it has to be earned, and you earn it by educating yourself about your device and its capabilities and by following simple instructions...
sabwjawdjw said:
yeah I had to pay for a second one. GRRR T-Mo actually checks their phones with sprint if I bricked or something just dip it in water and send it in. They would never check to see if you rooted it. So anyways do I install Clockwork or only do the steps in the video with the nv flasher?
And whats the best rom? I really like the looks of MIUI sorta looks like my wifes iPhone.
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I can't believe no one has said this yet.
Most phones have water sensors, so dipping it in water would just void the warranty. Sorry if you were joking. But as many have said, it's pretty easy to flash the phone back to normal so the TMobile doesn't know it's been hacked. Did you ask here first?
I am thankful for all the responses. Sorry if I caused grief and headache to anyone. I was finally able to get my phone rooted giving the information that someone provided to me on here. I sent him a PM to personally thank him.
By all means I should probably be *****ed at if I don't follow instructions very well. I have always considered myself a visual learner. If I don't have hands on and able to see it done, it really complicates things for me. I guess you can call it a disability.
Anyways I have come from a long line to HTC which I can say is way different in rooting then these phones. I root them to begin with to get rid of all the stupid software T-Mobile places in my phone and to normally switch to CM7 which I have found out is giving me problems which I am currently trying to figure out.
So please negative comments and put downs are always accepted it comes with the questions. But I don't want to sound like an ass or anything when I say this because I mean it in the upmost respect to everyone, but isn't this a forum? A community forum?
Someone once had to show you, all I did was ask for the same help. And this whole GSM network ways of doing things is different from my typical Sprint CDMA network that I am used to. Everything was pretty much the same when it came to that.
Again please I AM VERY SORRY truly if I caused any problems. Please don't be upset at me. Thanks.
I don't think anyone is upset with you. We're all here to contribute and help. Have fun with your rooted G2X
sabwjawdjw said:
Okay so I had a G2x and tried rooting it and I think i did something wrong. With all these instructions ramble on about one thing and another hard for me to really understand all the correct steps.
So can I please have someone give me a hand with this? As in a step by step process of everything? This is my second G2X brand new from T-Mobile has the Gingerbread 2.3.3. So if anyone can actually tell me step by step and what files I am going to need so I don't brick this one because 300USD is getting expensive.
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Don't feel bad. I bricked mine upgrading to GB, and I'm still not sure what went wrong. I got it fixed for free by sending it into LG.
sabwjawdjw said:
I am thankful for all the responses. Sorry if I caused grief and headache to anyone. I was finally able to get my phone rooted giving the information that someone provided to me on here. I sent him a PM to personally thank him.
By all means I should probably be *****ed at if I don't follow instructions very well. I have always considered myself a visual learner. If I don't have hands on and able to see it done, it really complicates things for me. I guess you can call it a disability.
Anyways I have come from a long line to HTC which I can say is way different in rooting then these phones. I root them to begin with to get rid of all the stupid software T-Mobile places in my phone and to normally switch to CM7 which I have found out is giving me problems which I am currently trying to figure out.
So please negative comments and put downs are always accepted it comes with the questions. But I don't want to sound like an ass or anything when I say this because I mean it in the upmost respect to everyone, but isn't this a forum? A community forum?
Someone once had to show you, all I did was ask for the same help. And this whole GSM network ways of doing things is different from my typical Sprint CDMA network that I am used to. Everything was pretty much the same when it came to that.
Again please I AM VERY SORRY truly if I caused any problems. Please don't be upset at me. Thanks.
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Do not sweat the whiners. Here is the way I look at it... It is a forum for developers. I can not develop crap, so I try to do my part by being helpful when I can. Everyone here was brand new at one point. Make sure you do your part by reading as much as you can. If you still have questions/issues, send me a PM.
Why does every noob question get followed up with a bunch bullshizz. We were all noobs at one point, I remember when my Huawei ascend scared me. Nothing is worse than bricking your phone and being upset than a bunch of know it all asses being pricks. Is the g2x forum the only one full of d-ckheads? I've never heard so much whining and holier than thou bs. I'm surprised we have any devs, ungrateful bunch of *****es. Wah, nvidia never, wah, everyone else has ics, wah, that noob asked a question, wah, I suck. I love my g2x, it's a typical musclecar, way over powered and finicky as hell. The g2x is not a beginners device, this is for big boys and girls. I wonder what the whiners would do if they owned a ferrari? Newsflash, they break down, a lot! I remember when xda was where you went for help and support, now I come here to be entertained by the ignorance of the know it alls. Go ahead, blast me, I'm a writer for an Android website and I'll make it painful. OK, then, how bout all these new roms and updates? It's like the g2x is reborn. Hey, wait a minute, I thought the g2x was a useless, unsupported piece of ka ka? Frickin morons!
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Well first I am glad you were able to fix the phone however I understand knowledgeable people get frustrated because this phone is simple to root. With a phone that has been out this long there is no reason anyone can not find out what to do on there own.
There are so many YouTube videos and forums like this. You are not the second person to too your phone or to brick it so why create a new post looking for help when you can simply Google it. I know your lazy and expect someone else to do your work for you.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...9l19l0l3l3l0l1535l5020l1.0.3.0.2.2.1.0.1l10l0
See plenty of info on the subject I am sure one of these other people have been helped.
This is why devs are tired of these questions they have been answered over and over. You may find this mean to say but you most likely found this forum by using Google so use it to fix your phone. Stop wasting peoples time by being lazy and use your head.
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The problem is this. Ppl dont know how to research their issue. Also ppl in our generation cant seem to follow directions worth ****. I was the same way. I learned on my g1. Rooted it successful and then bricked my friends. Over the years ive learned alot about computers/phone/cdma flashing. Playing with the big boys. You develop problem solving skills that you can apply outside of this. It truly makes you smarter. So yea. Maybe we are know it all asses.
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What are the chances of BRICKING your phone via rooting?

Hi. I've been wanting to root my phone for a while now, but since as I am still a kid, I asked my parents if I could. They didn't like the idea of bricking. I tried to explain how low the risks are to them, but no.
I'm pretty sure that hearing professional's opinions on it would atleast help to change their mind.
You may be thinking, since im only a kid, that I dont know all this types of stuff? Well, I spend most of my time on the computer and I generally am really good with them.
I know a good of C++, but thats beside the topic.
(I would be using kingroot's one click since I have a nexus 5)
Thank you, and best regards,
R3pix.
R3pix said:
Hi. I've been wanting to root my phone for a while now, but since as I am still a kid, I asked my parents if I could. They didn't like the idea of bricking. I tried to explain how low the risks are to them, but no.
I'm pretty sure that hearing professional's opinions on it would atleast help to change their mind.
You may be thinking, since im only a kid, that I dont know all this types of stuff? Well, I spend most of my time on the computer and I generally am really good with them.
I know a good of C++, but thats beside the topic.
(I would be using kingroot's one click since I have a nexus 5)
Thank you, and best regards,
R3pix.
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I'm going to have to give you a thumbs down on rooting.
If you need king root to root a nexus, you don't know what your doing and shouldn't root.
bweN diorD said:
I'm going to have to give you a thumbs down on rooting.
If you need king root to root a nexus, you don't know what your doing and shouldn't root.
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I know how to root without KR, but it seems like the easiest way.. (I meant since it supports it)
R3pix said:
I know how to root without KR, but it seems like the easiest way.. (I meant since it supports it)
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i can root any nexus the right way in under 5 minutes. how is that difficult? and better to use the trash root that king gives you?
no one is going to support your petition to be allowed to root, when your using king on a nexus.
dont believe me? go post exactly what you posted here in the n5 forum. they will flame you mercilessly, i guarantee it.
im being nice about the situation, trust me lol
It's pretty damn hard to actually brick a Nexus. Permanently, anyway. In fact, I'm not sure it's even possible. With TWRP recover you can just restore from a back-up if you screw something up, and as long as you can boot into download mode, you can always just reflash the factory firmwares from a PC.
However, I think the method you'd use is less important than the question of why you want or think you need to root in the first place. If it's to learn about Android, programming, app making, etc for a future career (or even just a hobby) then I think it's a great idea. But not on your Nexus 5, if that's your only phone. Even if you screw something up, but not permanently, you still don't want to be without your phone for however long it takes to fix it.
I don't know how much money might be at your disposal (or your parents), but my suggestion would be to look on Swappa or eBay for something cheap to play around and learn with. Like a Nexus 4 or Galaxy S3. Both can be had for under $100 if you don't mind a little wear and tear. Heck, there's a brand new 16GB Nexus 4 listed right now for $123. If you can afford just a bit more, a second Nexus 5 for ~$150 would be an even better device to learn on, since it has official Marshmallow 6.0. Heck, a Nexus 7 tablet would be learning device, with its bigger screen.
You've already shown commendable responsibility in asking your parents and not just going ahead behind their backs, so I'll say this to you: If you want to convince your parents to let you try, or better yet, get the second device to experiment with, explain to them that a smartphone isn't a phone anymore. It's a computer that fits in your pocket that you can make calls with. And a Nexus is like a home-built PC that doesn't require restore disks and impossible-to-find drivers to fix if you happen to screw something up. And frankly, screwing up and learning how to fix your mistakes and not make others is all part of the knowledge process. Trust me, we've all done it.
But, if you want to root just to get free gems and gold and screenshot Snapchat pictures without the other party knowing, then that's an entirely different thing. And I'm not your parents.
Reasons for bricking a device.
Which are the major reasons which results into a useless bricked device?? I frequently use xposed modules and my device is mtk 6592 chipset one.
Please throw some light on my querry. Thanks
SKDesignsuccw said:
Which are the major reasons which results into a useless bricked device?? I frequently use xposed modules and my device is mtk 6592 chipset one.
Please throw some light on my querry. Thanks
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the #1 way to brick your device from rooting, or any other mod is user error.

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