I know you will laugh after reading this post. But I have to ask this question
I have more 2months of warranty on my ace plus. Should I root my phone now or after warranty finished?? I'm in confusion. I have rooted my galaxy y after the warranty finished. Rooting means no warranty further, so little bit worry working on me. I can handle any type of problem related to software or by help of XDA-developpers. But if after some days of rooting my phone's hardware starts problematic then what..
Jayadratha Mondal said:
I know you will laugh after reading this post. But I have to ask this question
I have more 2months of warranty on my ace plus. Should I root my phone now or after warranty finished?? I'm in confusion. I have rooted my galaxy y after the warranty finished. Rooting means no warranty further, so little bit worry working on me. I can handle any type of problem related to software or by help of XDA-developpers. But if after some days of rooting my phone's hardware starts problematic then what..
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i had the same situation... but when i did i had like 1.5 years of warranty
Well I would say you should root when you want because 3 months after rooting i had a battery problem.
I even had a custom rom in it that works perfectly (cm10.1 by TheWhisp) but i knew they would see this so i did the easiest thing: flashed my stock firmware.
sent to my local service and i got a new battery
i think they can see what i did but they will not spend their time testing our phones...
i have 5 more months of warranty and how i said if it starts being problematic just flash the stock firmware with odin and you will have the phone like you had when you bought it, i think they do the same thing if you send it to a service so just be careful what you do
if you only want to root it i bet you will have no problems, even it will work better.( that's why i did )
so my answer is Yes! you should do
yes u can...
well if u want to use custom roms & all other mods,
you have to root ur device which u may also know
& yup root mean void warranty but if u face any problem just reflash stock rom which mean u r in warranty period not a single sign of rooting when u flash stock firmware
j.posarekar70 said:
well if u want to use custom roms & all other mods,
you have to root ur device which u may also know
& yup root mean void warranty but if u face any problem just reflash stock rom which mean u r in warranty period not a single sign of rooting when u flash stock firmware
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What about flash counter?? If i flash with stock firmware will it be erased or set to zero?? You know about custom flash counter which countes how many time you have flashed the nand memory.
ShadowsDie said:
i had the same situation... but when i did i had like 1.5 years of warranty
Well I would say you should root when you want because 3 months after rooting i had a battery problem.
I even had a custom rom in it that works perfectly (cm10.1 by TheWhisp) but i knew they would see this so i did the easiest thing: flashed my stock firmware.
sent to my local service and i got a new battery
i think they can see what i did but they will not spend their time testing our phones...
i have 5 more months of warranty and how i said if it starts being problematic just flash the stock firmware with odin and you will have the phone like you had when you bought it, i think they do the same thing if you send it to a service so just be careful what you do
if you only want to root it i bet you will have no problems, even it will work better.( that's why i did )
so my answer is Yes! you should do
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I think you will also want to answer the above question. Will the flash counter be removed or erased after flashing with stock firmware??
Jayadratha Mondal said:
What about flash counter?? If i flash with stock firmware will it be erased or set to zero?? You know about custom flash counter which countes how many time you have flashed the nand memory.
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yup use triangle away app...(search it on xda)
it will remove binary counts which comes with rooting/ flashing cwm...
& it will work on stock rooted gb even on all other gb based roms...
j.posarekar70 said:
yup use triangle away app...(search it on xda)
it will remove binary counts which comes with rooting/ flashing cwm...
& it will work on stock rooted gb even on all other gb based roms...
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Yea... I forgot to mention i used triangle away to reset the binary counter
Related
I was wondering that
What if i apply a custom rom..and disable superuser from the apps??:silly::fingers-crossed:
Will it cause any problems to my device?:silly:
And make sure to check which apps require SuperUser authorization and not use those apps at all (to avoid problems if any) ???
Will this action be known as temporarily UNROOTING my device?
If yes, The SSC wont even know ans ill still be enjoying a Custom Rom, without worries of voiding warranty :laugh:
DeepankarS said:
I was wondering that
What if i apply a custom rom..and disable superuser from the apps??:silly::fingers-crossed:
Will it cause any problems to my device?:silly:
And make sure to check which apps require SuperUser authorization and not use those apps at all (to avoid problems if any) ???
Will this action be known as temporarily UNROOTING my device?
If yes, The SSC wont even know ans ill still be enjoying a Custom Rom, without worries of voiding warranty :laugh:
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First off all flashing custom ROM will not void your warranty because when ever you want you can revert back to Stock ROM and SSC don't know that you used some custom ROM...
Hope i have answered all your questions.....
mj.vikram said:
First off all flashing custom ROM will not void your warranty because when ever you want you can revert back to Stock ROM and SSC don't know that you used some custom ROM...
Hope i have answered all your questions.....
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CWM Backup right?
And if my backup is also of a root that i had done earlier?
Bccause i checked about the Flash Counters..It still remains ZERO in my device.. so this is "Check" put up by samsung ramains INVALID.
Now the slolution?
Plus SSC is not a condition...
I was just asking Can we disable SuperUser and still use a Cutom rom perfectly??
and
Will that be called temporary Unrooting?
sorry i didn't get your points so please try to explain in detail......
DeepankarS said:
If yes, The SSC wont even know ans ill still be enjoying a Custom Rom, without worries of voiding warranty :laugh:
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Actually the problem is not root. The problem is anything "CUSTOM". Rooting does not increase ur counter nor does any custom ROM if flashed thru CWM. To avoid problems at the SSC, it is recommended that u take it in mint stock state. So just flash the stock ROM before taking it to SSC. Also if u really want to unroot...u cant try the attached package...flash it thru CWM. After that all apps that require root access will no longer work, u can just uninstall those apps.
Use Custom Rom and disable SuperUser.
mj.vikram said:
sorry i didn't get your points so please try to explain in detail......
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I am using C.A.M.P Rom as i told you (and the Rom is AWESOME:good
For some reasons (past experiences with my device) i feel kind of unsafe with rooted phones and voiding my warranty till June '13 (not my query)
[MAIN QUESTION] Can i Disable SuperUser and the use the Rom perfectly??
If yes, Will this disable of SU make my phone like a Unrooted phone?
Or
Can i just Unroot my device and still use any Custom Rom??
And buddy I got the part of flashing the stock rom all over again and SSC wont know. But this is just a thought
DeepankarS said:
CWM Backup right?
And if my backup is also of a root that i had done earlier?
Bccause i checked about the Flash Counters..It still remains ZERO in my device.. so this is "Check" put up by samsung ramains INVALID.
Now the slolution?
Plus SSC is not a condition...
I was just asking Can we disable SuperUser and still use a Cutom rom perfectly??
and
Will that be called temporary Unrooting?
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Buddy. Since we are flashing custom roms via CWM, it will not increase the binary counters. Even u checked it and its zero. It means your warranty is still valid. So no one will deny you the warranty in Service center.
And yes u can disable the Superuser access which will cause issues with some apps which luks for super user access. Its not a proper method if u want to take the phone to service centre. Flash the stock rom via odin and take it to service centre which is safe option for u.
DeepankarS said:
CWM Backup right?
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To revert back to stock, flash the stock ROM thru ODIN. Don't use previous CWM nandroid backups.
Thnx!
The-Droidster said:
Actually the problem is not root. The problem is anything "CUSTOM". Rooting does not increase ur counter nor does any custom ROM if flashed thru CWM. To avoid problems at the SSC, it is recommended that u take it in mint stock state. So just flash the stock ROM before taking it to SSC. Also if u really want to unroot...u cant try the attached package...flash it thru CWM.
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Ohhh..
Okay..
But then wont the Custom Rom create any problem without root access?
And i think the flash counter of our devices dont even increase even if flashed via Odin. (Mine didnt..still shows 0 counts)
Even Triangle Away doesnt support our device (I think because of this reason only)
How about disabling the SU? Isnt that good enough?
Silly Point
The-Droidster said:
To revert back to stock, flash the stock ROM thru ODIN. Don't use previous CWM nandroid backups.
Thnx!
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And what if the charging jack goes kaputt?
What will happen then?
DeepankarS said:
Ohhh..
Okay..
But then wont the Custom Rom create any problem without root access?
And i think the flash counter of our devices dont even increase even if flashed via Odin. (Mine didnt..still shows 0 counts)
Even Triangle Away doesnt support our device (I think because of this reason only)
How about disabling the SU? Isnt that good enough?
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Buddy if u flash stock ROM thru ODIN, it won't increase ur counter, but if u flash any custom ROM thru ODIN, it will definitely increase ur counter. In my earlier post I've attached the unroot package. Read that post and u can safely continue using the Custom ROM albiet without access to the root apps. Hope this helps.
Thnx!
selva.simple said:
Buddy. Since we are flashing custom roms via CWM, it will not increase the binary counters. Even u checked it and its zero. It means your warranty is still valid. So no one will deny you the warranty in Service center.
And yes u can disable the Superuser access which will cause issues with some apps which luks for super user access. Its not a proper method if u want to take the phone to service centre. Flash the stock rom via odin and take it to service centre which is safe option for u.
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Earlier I did not know how to revert back to the Stock Rom using CWM.
So i used to flash my phone via odin (Though later our friend MJ and Vikesh did tell me how to use CWM backup/restore)
Still my counters are 0.
[EDIT] As told by Buddy Droidster, Custom Roms Via ODIN Increase the counter? And I thought the stock roms did it too
And the apps which use SU, i dont use those apps and are a bit annoying at times (To be frank )
Plus How will the SSC guys know if i am using anything CUSTOM if i unroot or disable SU? Okay agreed some functions in a custom rom will be Inaccessible? But then we have launchers and all these days? (Just a Noob Query, I'm sorry if it is getting irritating )
The-Droidster said:
Read that post and u can safely continue using the Custom ROM albiet without access to the root apps. Hope this helps.
Thnx!
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Thank you Buddy,
But can you provide me with the link of the concerned post? I just saw the attached file
Hello guys,
So... I have samsung GT-S7710 (Galaxy Xcover2).
I had it rooted with prerooted odexed FW (from this post)
So this is the OK part :laugh: .... everything was working fine.
Then, to claim my waranty, i have unrooted it...so I've reseted the counter and flashed it with FW I've backed up from my phone before rooting.
So now for the wierd part...everything was ok, booted my phone, everything was working, then restarted it, and all of the sudden touchscreen stoped working
I've read about bricked touchscreens, but mine worked for some time..
So I was thinking now...should I try and flash official FW for my phone, rather than backed up one ?
Or is there any thing else to do ? Or even...did maybe touchscreen went to *khm* ?
Thank you guys for your time you spent reading & hopefully anwsering this
Flyzoor said:
Hello guys,
So... I have samsung GT-S7710 (Galaxy Xcover2).
I had it rooted with prerooted odexed FW (from this post)
So this is the OK part :laugh: .... everything was working fine.
Then, to claim my waranty, i have unrooted it...so I've reseted the counter and flashed it with FW I've backed up from my phone before rooting.
So now for the wierd part...everything was ok, booted my phone, everything was working, then restarted it, and all of the sudden touchscreen stoped working
I've read about bricked touchscreens, but mine worked for some time..
So I was thinking now...should I try and flash official FW for my phone, rather than backed up one ?
Or is there any thing else to do ? Or even...did maybe touchscreen went to *khm* ?
Thank you guys for your time you spent reading & hopefully anwsering this
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i would say try to flash it again with OFFICIAL STOCK ROM and do let me know the results by QUOTING ME!!
pushkardua said:
i would say try to flash it again with OFFICIAL STOCK ROM and do let me know the results by QUOTING ME!!
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Thanks for your reply, I've tried this right away.
I've tried with official version (from SamMobile)...I've choosen version for Slvoenia (my country) w/o any provider
But still no sucsess...
Odin sucsesfully flashes, phone boots, and touch doesnt work again (I'm stuck at that starting page...to chose language and so on..)
But like I've said everything else works ok, eg.: power btn, wolume up/down,... only touch doesnt work.
pushkardua said:
i would say try to flash it again with OFFICIAL STOCK ROM and do let me know the results by QUOTING ME!!
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Sorry for the double post..
I've tried to flash ROM that I was using before (rooted one). And now touch even doesnt work in this one.
Is this maybe hardware problem ?
Flyzoor said:
Sorry for the double post..
I've tried to flash ROM that I was using before (rooted one). And now touch even doesnt work in this one.
Is this maybe hardware problem ?
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i think you should flash stock rom and give it to samsung maybe.. if it's in warrentee they would get it replaced i guess
hope it helps you
pushkardua said:
i think you should flash stock rom and give it to samsung maybe.. if it's in warrentee they would get it replaced i guess
hope it helps you
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I will do exactly this
One more thing... I've bought my phone in a electronic store (no carier involved). Should I flash it with FW for my country ? What if phone had any other FW on when it was new ?
EDIT:
Just realised....I've flashed rooted FW on my phone...which has increased the counter of custom flashes... To reset the counter I need root permisions...but how if I cant even unlock my phone.
I probably cant use [email protected], because I've hard reseted the phone, which means that Usb debug is disabled (correct me if I'm wrong), so thats of the list..
Do you guys know if any FW has enabled USB debug by default ? Or if there is any other option ?
Updated to marshmallow couple days ago, not satisfies with the results im wondering if its possible to downgrade to lollipop?
Thanks in advance
Drivingdroids said:
Updated to marshmallow couple days ago, not satisfies with the results im wondering if its possible to downgrade to lollipop?
Thanks in advance
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Yes
Yes
tazaga said:
Yes
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can you post a link?
What are the steps for downgrading?
Hey guy's this is the file you need http://d-h.st/cvw5 add the files to odin and flash THIS WILL VOID YOUR WARRANTY!!!
iNeoTom
iNeoTom said:
Hey guy's this is the file you need http://d-h.st/cvw5 add the files to odin and flash THIS WILL VOID YOUR WARRANTY!!!
iNeoTom
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No it will not!
Stay to the facts, or at least do a read up, before you say it will.
Source
dev-host.eu said:
No it will not!
Stay to the facts, or at least do a read up, before you say it will.
Source
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I think you need to check for yourself!
You know for a fact this person is from Europe because??
If they are from outside Europe you maybe giving them the wrong info better to be safe than sorry in my opinion..
iNeoTom
Downgrade
Can I use this file in my Sm g925i?
iNeoTom said:
I think you need to check for yourself!
You know for a fact this person is from Europe because??
If they are from outside Europe you maybe giving them the wrong info better to be safe than sorry in my opinion..
iNeoTom
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So far as I know, flashing stock samsung firmware will NOT trip Knox
If it trips Knox, then it will be up to the repair centre the phone goes to and the carrier, regardless of EU, UK or any other LAW as Knox trip does invalidate warranty. Just because you are lucky enough to get a phone fixed after it's had custom software on does not make it the norm. And if you're refused warranty, good luck challenging it, Europe or not.
As for going back to 5.1.1 I heard it wasn't possible without breaking Knox.
theronlas said:
So far as I know, flashing stock samsung firmware will NOT trip Knox
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Yes !
Flashing stock Samsung firmware will NOT trip KNOX !
Drivingdroids said:
Updated to marshmallow couple days ago, not satisfies with the results im wondering if its possible to downgrade to lollipop?
Thanks in advance
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Have you had any luck? I want to as well because my battery is draining like 40% faster now that I upgraded. That and there's a few bugs that I can't get rid of that bother me quite a bit.
I've tried the various guides online using Odin3 and the ROMs from SamMobile but I can't get it to not fail. I've factory restored it multiple times and tried all of the updates to Odin 3.10. I can't get any of it to work and It's making me mad! I've tried two different PCs, made sure the drivers for reading the phones are updated and even multiple USB cords! I just want Lolipop back so I can enjoy my phone and not have it be dead halfway through my day!
I have some problems with touch and want to try downgrade, how?
Dreamfall31 said:
I've tried the various guides online using Odin3 and the ROMs from SamMobile but I can't get it to not fail. I've factory restored it multiple times and tried all of the updates to Odin 3.10. I can't get any of it to work and It's making me mad! I've tried two different PCs, made sure the drivers for reading the phones are updated and even multiple USB cords! I just want Lolipop back so I can enjoy my phone and not have it be dead halfway through my day!
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Hi,
Flashing ROM from sammobile never worked for me. This is what I did.
Download the latest 5.1.1 bootloader, modem and TWRP 3.0 for your model. Flash them in odin after putting them in respective locations. If successful, the phone boots into recovery, where you can restore a 5.1.1 backup if you have any. If you don't have a backup, see that you have a ROM file ready in the phone to flash.
iamronin said:
Hi,
Flashing ROM from sammobile never worked for me. This is what I did.
Download the latest 5.1.1 bootloader, modem and TWRP 3.0 for your model. Flash them in odin after putting them in respective locations. If successful, the phone boots into recovery, where you can restore a 5.1.1 backup if you have any. If you don't have a backup, see that you have a ROM file ready in the phone to flash.
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Why it not stock working ?what is the problem ?
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tazaga said:
Why it not stock working ?what is the problem ?
Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
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I honestly have no idea but used to fail everytime.
http://justforprogrammers.blogspot.com/2015/12/downgrade-from-marshmallow-to-lollipop.html?m=1
I think, point is from WHICH 6.0.1 to WHICH 5.1.1- generally some combinations work.
Somebody knows which??
Downgrade not work for me, bootlop, no recovery mode for wipe after flash, only download mode. Knox not trip.
Hey guys,
I have a rooted J700F with
Knox Warranty Void : 1
can i safely install the stock rom with the use of odin from sammobile?
or is my device gonna brick?
Guys please tell me as this is literally my last phone(if i brick it)(then ill have to use a landline) as i have bricked many phones. and my dad is telling me that he s not gonna give me any more money for all this rooting crap.
stock rom flashing
Yes u can safely flash the stock rom via odin.....if u dont know the process then u can tell me...i ll explain it to u....and if u want i can give u the link of the stock rom......
Thanks for your reply i do know the process (i guess) but i'd like if you explain it to me once again as i don't wanna take any risk!
Thanks in advance!!
I am running J700F on the indian stock rom
First u have to download the stock rom from sammobile.com.....then u have to put the phone into dowload mode.....then connect the phone via usb cable to the pc......u ll get a message that the phone has been added.....then click the ap button on odin and browse to the folder where u have kept the stock rom......that should be the md5 cheksum file.....then wait for some time.....then press the start button....u ll see that nand write will start......congratulations. ....u have finished the process and u are back to the stock rom....i have already done this process for 15 times.....when my phone got stuck into the boot logo.....its a very easy process.... ok.....best of luck....
after flashing will it still show
Knox Warranty Void :1??
Yes....the knox will not work anymore....
Dont use sammobile there is an easier way. Search xda for extracting roms from samsung kies or smartswitch
LoganVye said:
Dont use sammobile there is an easier way. Search xda for extracting roms from samsung kies or smartswitch
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It's bever work in Bangladesh. I was tired. It wants #recovery code so...
Hi Guys,
Yesterday I updated my phone via Odin to Oreo, but unfortunately samsung health says that my phone is rooted and it is not working anymore. ( Of course my phone is not rooted, I used stock firmware)
I think the problem is I used different region code firmware. Am I right? How can I use the app again? Wait for my original country's firmware and update via Odin would be a solution?
baalint said:
Hi Guys,
Yesterday I updated my phone via Odin to Oreo, but unfortunately samsung health says that my phone is rooted and it is not working anymore. ( Of course my phone is not rooted, I used stock firmware)
I think the problem is I used different region code firmware. Am I right? How can I use the app again? Wait for my original country's firmware and update via Odin would be a solution?
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It detects Knox is 0x1. To fix this you must root your phone, go with root browser to the root of the device (/) then /efs. There you'll find a file "factory.prop". Open it and add there "ro.config.tima=0". Then you can unroot/reflash stock ROM and s health works
andrei1412 said:
It detects Knox is 0x1. To fix this you must root your phone, go with root browser to the root of the device (/) then /efs. There you'll find a file "factory.prop". Open it and add there "ro.config.tima=0". Then you can unroot/reflash stock ROM and s health works
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thanks for your quick reply, Is this a permanent change or can I fix this by flashing my phone's original country firmware?
Actually I don't want to root my phone as it has warranty till the end of this year..
baalint said:
thanks for your quick reply, Is this a permanent change or can I fix this by flashing my phone's original country firmware?
Actually I don't want to root my phone as it has warranty till the end of this year..
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Check in Download Mode, if it says Warranty Void 0x1 then it has at one time either been rooted or had custom flashed to it, in which case Warranty is void anyway and you might as well root
*Detection* said:
Check in Download Mode, if it says Warranty Void 0x1 then it has at one time either been rooted or had custom flashed to it, in which case Warranty is void anyway and you might as well root
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It is still 0 (0x0000)
What about to downgrade back to Nougat? Will it work again?
baalint said:
It is still 0 (0x0000)
What about to downgrade back to Nougat? Will it work again?
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I thought your knox was 0x1, but in this case try just to wipe data of S health
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andrei1412 said:
I thought your knox was 0x1, but in this case try just to wipe data of S health
Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
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not working... I did full wipe
Googled it and everybody recommends to root the phone in case of above S health bug... but I am looking for another solution ... Surprisingly this is the only app which thinks I am rooted...
Found it. I need to flash all components not Just AP in odin
And it works?
Yes! It is working now. You need to flash every stuff from the downloaded zip. Thankfully SamMobile attached everything you need.
:good:
As I see a lot of people facing this issue,and all "expert " recommends root. But there are other options too.
Anyway, thank you for all help
baalint said:
Yes! It is working now. You need to flash every stuff from the downloaded zip. Thankfully SamMobile attached everything you need.
:good:
As I see a lot of people facing this issue,and all "expert " recommends root. But there are other options too.
Anyway, thank you for all help
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Experts recommend root if your KNOX is 0x1 because that is the only solution, if you fail to read up on how to flash firmware and end up with a problem because of your own fault, and fail to mention in your main post that you didn't flash the firmware correctly, we are not psychic, we can only go on the info you give us
Next time, learn how to flash firmware the correct way first
*Detection* said:
Experts recommend root if your KNOX is 0x1 because that is the only solution, if you fail to read up on how to flash firmware and end up with a problem because of your own fault, and fail to mention in your main post that you didn't flash the firmware correctly, we are not psychic, we can only go on the info you give us
Next time, learn how to flash firmware the correct way first
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That's true, that was my mistake... in good old Times as I remember only AP was included in the ZIP,and that was enough.
baalint said:
That's true, that was my mistake... in good old Times as I remember only AP was included in the ZIP,and that was enough.
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Yep, with my S5 that was the method, but instructions for S7 are under the download on sammobile's site and all over this forum
As a rule when I get a new phone I spend a good few weeks reading threads before I attempt anything, even a simple stock flash, saves possible bricks and other problems like this one
Anyway good it's working again
I have the exactly same issue knox is 0x0 but Samsung health isn't working, can you please explain the exact steps about the following message how can i run Samsung health in g955u secure folder is also not working
Yes! It is working now. You need to flash every stuff from the downloaded zip. Thankfully SamMobile attached everything you need.