[Q] Couple of Group messaging questions - Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)

1- Why can't we get group messaging as good as iphone... Im not talking about imessage, but the group mms is seamless in ios. (maybe there is an app that does it well, but gosms and handcent dont do it as well as android)
2- Group messaging destroys battery in android, any way to fix?
3- I prefer handcent over gosms, but I've gone through all the settings like 10 times, and made sure everything was in order, but I cannot for the life of me get notifications to appear. I have it top priority etc.
Thank you

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Return of the SMS client

So, i've been using Handcent for a while now, and it has it's quirks, especially when you want to create custom tones for each sender.
An then i tried Pansi SMS, pretty new in the market, does what any other 3rd party sms app does, slightly easier when doing custom sms tones.
GOSMS is a no-go
ChompSMS, never tried it
Anyone has an opinion on which client they're using that does not lag when scrolling the conversations list? With the exception of stock app, that is.
The search for the perfect SMS app continues............
Why is GoSMS a no-go? I have 15000 messages on my phone in over 300 threads and there is not even the slightest lag on scrolling in the conversation list. Granted it is a not a "light" app but there isnt a performance issue and its very much bug-free.
In fact its the only sms client I have found that can support so many messages and not slow to absolute crawl just trying to start up.
i use go sms and i have about 6000 sms stored and no lag at all
i dont need custom ring tones or any of that other crap mind
i've never thought about using an other sms-client. what's wrong about the stock one? it scrolls also very smooth and is clean...
There's a few problems with the stock sms client compared to 3rd party ones. I use gosms because:
a) as mentioned above the stock app really doesnt handle a large number of texts well. It fails to start most of the time and can become very laggy when dealing with a large number of texts.
b) gosms supports emoji emoticons that are cross-compatible with iphone emoji emoticons.
c) ability to send to as many contacts in one go as you want without resorting to a modded stock app.
d) theme customisation.
e) able to have a custom ringtone and vibrate pattern for sms. I find this useful as I have my phone on silent most of the time and like the fact I can set gosms to do 4 short buzzes when I receive a text so I can differentiate between normal notifications (like facebook, email) and sms whilst it is in my pocket.
As I said I think my biggest issue with gosms is that it has too many features. I really dont want a chat client built in to my sms app, or the ability to lock it, have folders, see a list of all my contacts, message filter etc etc.
go sms was a no-go for me due to lag when i tried it about 4 months ago i think
maybe newer versions have improved
can you share what dpi you're on? i'm running at 240.
Currently on 320dpi because I'm back to using TouchWiz as I find the other launchers are still a little laggy compared to it.
I was using GoLauncher and GoSMS at 280dpi just a few weeks ago though and it seemed fine then. Im on LC1 stock deodexed. I advise you to be on one of the newer Samsung firmwares if you are not already. There was a huge performance jump between the K** based firmwares and the newer L** based firmwares.
i am on Chrack's LC1. May give GoSMS another...go.

Verizon Messages 11/19 update

So Verizon just pushed an update to their Messages app, which was a great replacement for the stock messaging app for several reasons. Unfortunately, all of the color customization options and popup notifications have been removed. I have no idea why they would do that, but it's terrible! I'll still use it though because it handles MMS group texts (with iPhone users) very well, unlike the stock app.
Anyone else use this? Anyone else bummed out by the latest update/regression?
US Marine said:
So Verizon just pushed an update to their Messages app, which was a great replacement for the stock messaging app for several reasons. Unfortunately, all of the color customization options and popup notifications have been removed. I have no idea why they would do that, but it's terrible! I'll still use it though because it handles MMS group texts (with iPhone users) very well, unlike the stock app.
Anyone else use this? Anyone else bummed out by the latest update/regression?
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I would install it when I got group messages but i'd uninstall after.
The notifications/pop-ups can be turned off but the default notifications won't appear. It's nice and I wish other SMS apps/CM10 could handle or implement the group feature so I wouldn't have to download this app.
1xmattx1 said:
I would install it when I got group messages but i'd uninstall after.
The notifications/pop-ups can be turned off but the default notifications won't appear. It's nice and I wish other SMS apps/CM10 could handle or implement the group feature so I wouldn't have to download this app.
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The pop-ups have been completely removed in the latest update, which was one of the major reasons to use the app!
I use group text a lot. I just got this GS3, so I'm still feeling it out. On my last phone (GS1), I used GoSMS Pro, which worked great except that I would get two notifications every time I got a group text. Once for recieving the text, and then another once GoSMS realized it's a group text and moved it into a group thread. That was annoying!

[Q] group sms w/ iphone users, minimizing 3rd party apps

I am some times involved in group messages with my friends(all iphone users).
I like the stock messaging app, and I have hated all 3rd party apps that i have tried(gosms and handcent).
My question is: Is there anyway I can retain the stock messaging app as default, but am still able to use another third party app to view and reply to these group mms? With my limited experience so far, handcent and gosms both require their apps to be the default app to work. I would rather much avoid this.
or can someone suggest me another app that will allow me to read and reply to my friends group messaging as seamlessly as they can?
chinaman_chong said:
I am some times involved in group messages with my friends(all iphone users).
I like the stock messaging app, and I have hated all 3rd party apps that i have tried(gosms and handcent).
My question is: Is there anyway I can retain the stock messaging app as default, but am still able to use another third party app to view and reply to these group mms? With my limited experience so far, handcent and gosms both require their apps to be the default app to work. I would rather much avoid this.
or can someone suggest me another app that will allow me to read and reply to my friends group messaging as seamlessly as they can?
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You should be able to use other messaging apps, and still keep the stock as your default. Same with the browser, there is a stock browser, but you can use another one as a default (i use chrome). depending on the rom, there may be a setting for app association.
Herc08 said:
You should be able to use other messaging apps, and still keep the stock as your default. Same with the browser, there is a stock browser, but you can use another one as a default (i use chrome). depending on the rom, there may be a setting for app association.
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well, thats why im askin a question. gosms and handcent both require themselves to be set as default apps to even enable group messaging to work. both of those apps are crappy enough that i dont want them set as default.
and there doesnt seem to be a way that those apps can thread my messages together AFTER i have received em. they have to be set to default before receiving group mms
You can try groupme, its an app strictly for group messaging and you don't have to use it as a stock messenger.
I just looked at the way GroupMe does things.... blech. it's amazing to me that NO one has implemented a good third-party solution to the group messaging thing. Apple is so often behind the times on new features, but they implemented group SMS YEARS ago at this point.
As for a stock SMS replacement, I like ChompSMS. I agree that Handcent and GoSMS are both... not good. Chomp is a clean interface. still doesn't do group SMS though, so if you like the stock Messaging app for normal SMS then I guess stick with it.
thebobmannh said:
I just looked at the way GroupMe does things.... blech. it's amazing to me that NO one has implemented a good third-party solution to the group messaging thing. Apple is so often behind the times on new features, but they implemented group SMS YEARS ago at this point.
As for a stock SMS replacement, I like ChompSMS. I agree that Handcent and GoSMS are both... not good. Chomp is a clean interface. still doesn't do group SMS though, so if you like the stock Messaging app for normal SMS then I guess stick with it.
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yea i hate apple, but their emojis and group messaging are the only things i like.
i have emojies, but theyre no where near as clean and easy to use as the iphone. and somebody will make lots of money if they can finally come up with something that will seamlessly integrate android to ios group messaging.
Maybe think of switching to AOSP? Group messaging is default
-Sugardaddy Duncan
i love this rom so much. and im so used to sense. i really dont know how i feel about swapping over to aosp for such a "simple" feature. im just hoping for a good alternative
chinaman_chong said:
i love this rom so much. and im so used to sense. i really dont know how i feel about swapping over to aosp for such a "simple" feature. im just hoping for a good alternative
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Well try a nandroid backup and flash maybe liquid smooth or carbon ROMs. Personally I love AOSP
-Sugardaddy Duncan

MMS issues

Heads up, I love iOS and Android, I think both OS provide excellent features to suite their respective users. With that said, he's my deal breaker as to why I may be returning my S6 within my 14 day return policy to go back to my iPhone 6 Plus.
1. MMS: Now with iOS you get Apple's proprietary iMessage which does not limit the quality of the picture you are sending out, it does however, limit the length of the video though but not the quality. The problem with Android is that it does limit the quality based on your carriers send size limit which in this case for me is 1mb per AT&T. I just couldn't believe it, it wasn't something I was aware of due to the fact that I've been with iOS for a few years now but when I attempted to send numerous pictures I had just taken with my brand spanking new S6 via Textra (Msg App), it kept throwing errors indicating it was out of memory or the file was too large! I was really disappointed to say the least, I mean damn I could send numerous .GIF images just fine via iMessage and can't even do that with the stock SMS app or with Textra - what gives?
2. Group Messaging: I text a lot, I also have quite a few group messages going during any given day at a time and to me group messaging is a big reason why I loved iOS + iMessage. To this day, I just can't comprehend how Google hasn't been able to come up with a solution to oppose iMessage.... It really baffles me... Everyone has their preferences when it comes to phones and OS, not everyone will be on an Android device nor will everyone be on an iPhone. I didn't think this would bother me as much but it is, now if this isn't a big deal to you then that's fine, again this is my preference and my personal opinion but how in the world are we in year 2015 and Android still can't get group messaging right is beyond me.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, again I'm not bashing the S6 or Android, I was just unaware that these were still issues after all these years.
Thanks!
When you open your messaging app go into the settings and try to see if you have to enable group messaging.
Anyone else have this issue? Ive tried everything and I just cant recieve group texts, everyone gets mine but I cant get theirs. This happens on all messaging apps.
This issue only cropped up a week ago for me
Any solutions yet?!
I've recently gone to the S6 from iPhone. I've de-registered my number from the imessage app on apple's website, turned off imessage and facetime on my old iPhone, downloaded textra and numerous other messaging apps, and I still cant send or receive group messages to/from other iphones! When I send a group message, the text goes to the receivers individually. When they text me into a group message I don't receive anything.
Please any help or suggestions?!
thannan said:
Any solutions yet?!
I've recently gone to the S6 from iPhone. I've de-registered my number from the imessage app on apple's website, turned off imessage and facetime on my old iPhone, downloaded textra and numerous other messaging apps, and I still cant send or receive group messages to/from other iphones! When I send a group message, the text goes to the receivers individually. When they text me into a group message I don't receive anything.
Please any help or suggestions?!
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I had some issues with MMS messages (including group messages) and a Sprint rep had me go into Settings->System Update->Update Profile and it fixed it. Give that a try.
As for your group messages going out as individual messages, this is typically an app settings. Group messages are MMS and send over mobile data, not over cellular like SMS (I might be using the wrong terms there). Most apps don't presume to use up your precious data and will instead send a group message as multiple SMS messages (using up your SMS quota rather than your data quota).
I just checked both Google Hangouts and Chomp SMS that I have on my phone, and both have a checkbox in their settings for something like "Use MMS for Group Messages."
flu13 said:
I had some issues with MMS messages (including group messages) and a Sprint rep had me go into Settings->System Update->Update Profile and it fixed it. Give that a try.
As for your group messages going out as individual messages, this is typically an app settings. Group messages are MMS and send over mobile data, not over cellular like SMS (I might be using the wrong terms there). Most apps don't presume to use up your precious data and will instead send a group message as multiple SMS messages (using up your SMS quota rather than your data quota).
I just checked both Google Hangouts and Chomp SMS that I have on my phone, and both have a checkbox in their settings for something like "Use MMS for Group Messages."
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I don't appear to have the "update profile" setting anywhere on my S6?
But I do have the MMS for group chat activated on my app.. :/
Any other suggestions?
Or can android simply not group chat with iphones?
Thanks for replying though!
thannan said:
I don't appear to have the "update profile" setting anywhere on my S6?
But I do have the MMS for group chat activated on my app.. :/
Any other suggestions?
Or can android simply not group chat with iphones?
Thanks for replying though!
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I believe the problem is that iChat is a proprietary (closed) group messaging system.

Multiple SMS Apps at once?

Currently on OPO Cyanogen CM13, 6.0.1
Been having this issue with SMS apps lately, perhaps I'm too picky, but have been looking for a good app that has chat heads and does it as well as Facebook's Messenger.
Now, I believe as of June, Messenger rolled out its new SMS integration allowing you to not only use it for Facebook messaging, but for SMS as well. Great. Too bad I've been so used to the amazing customization of Textra for nearly 2 years.
Messenger is severely lacking so far in terms of customization. It doesn't really jive well with the theme of my phone. (Boohoo right?)
Now, the issue arises in trying to send Facebook SMS and Textra SMS at the same time. Facebook SMS doesn't wake the screen, or have colored icons or chats, something I paid money for to have in textra.
I'm faced with needing to pick a default SMS for the sending app. I can receive notifications on both. But how can I bypass the sending option?
Reason being, I'm willing to part with the base part of textra if I can get the notifications to work, and send my SMS from fb messenger.
Tldr: I want to be able to send SMS from Facebook messenger and textra at the same time without switching default SMS apps.
Or send SMS from fb messenger and receive notifications only on textra.
Here's to never settling.

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