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I have a few questions, and I'm sure the answers are here somewhere but filtering through these forums is rather daunting, so I hope you'll suffer a fw questions.
After installing WM6, there's no t9 input language. So there are seperate cabs for each language, but it seems that if I install 2 cabs, it overwrites the first language and I'm left with only one (the last) language installed.
How do I get to languages for input, like English and Spanish?
Just to clarify, I'm using andot's perfect wm6 ROM.
If I copy my contacts off my SIM, is this data going to be stored on my SD or in the memory?
Similar question for documents, temp files and ringtones. How do I keep all of this off the ROM/RAM?
Hardware Questions:
I found one copy of the i-mate PDF manual for this device, which turned out to be exactly like the paper copy I already had for Qtek.
Oddly, there's no picture of the device itself with arrows pointing at all the buttons, bells and whistles.
The jack on the bottom of the phone, is that 2.5mm? Is it just for hands free, or can it use a stereo headset for music?
The tiny hole right by that... is that for a hard reset?
WTF is the little slot-like gap in the top of the phone between the power button and the windows logo?
What do you call the internet and media player control buttons and is there an app to reasign them?
There are 3 led light holes on the face, what do they signal?
Install a T9 wich you can find in the extras.zip in phils BETA-thread. That will enable input.
The jack on the bottom is 2,5mm. You can buy 2,5 ->3,5mm adapter, or a headset with 2,5mm. Yes stereo hp is supported.
Tiny hole next to that is prolly a mic.
Slot-like? I'm not sure, but can imagine it's for use in a car. There is a button-fix in the before-mentioned extras.zip.
The green LED blinks to show that you have coverage. Blue LED for bluetooth, and the third blinks when wifi is activated. When charging your phone, one LED turns red.
Exitao said:
I have a few questions, and I'm sure the answers are here somewhere but filtering through these forums is rather daunting, so I hope you'll suffer a fw questions.
After installing WM6, there's no t9 input language. So there are seperate cabs for each language, but it seems that if I install 2 cabs, it overwrites the first language and I'm left with only one (the last) language installed.
How do I get to languages for input, like English and Spanish?
Just to clarify, I'm using andot's perfect wm6 ROM.
If I copy my contacts off my SIM, is this data going to be stored on my SD or in the memory?
Similar question for documents, temp files and ringtones. How do I keep all of this off the ROM/RAM?
Hardware Questions:
I found one copy of the i-mate PDF manual for this device, which turned out to be exactly like the paper copy I already had for Qtek.
Oddly, there's no picture of the device itself with arrows pointing at all the buttons, bells and whistles.
The jack on the bottom of the phone, is that 2.5mm? Is it just for hands free, or can it use a stereo headset for music?
The tiny hole right by that... is that for a hard reset?
WTF is the little slot-like gap in the top of the phone between the power button and the windows logo?
What do you call the internet and media player control buttons and is there an app to reasign them?
There are 3 led light holes on the face, what do they signal?
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2.5mm, any other 2.5mm headphone can be used
There isnt any hard reset button for that phone, to hard reset, you either use the software or press the two soft key and on the phone
The 3 LED light holes? I think you mean the top there
There are 5 holes, the left most one is for power status, yellow for normal, orange for charging, red for low power, the right most hole is for connectivity, yellow for WiFi, blue for BT, the 3 in the middle is simply the earpiece, while the hole above is the loudspeaker
Thanks for the replies guys! Just a few clarification questions and a bit of repeating things back to ensure I have it correct.
In regards to the language thing:
I did find the Extras.zip and did use the "English xT9.cab", but this only gives me one language input option when I hold down the * key. If I install a Spanish T9 after the English T9, I only get the Spanish language option when inputting text. I want them both... Is there any place to get the full western language(s) WM5 T9 cab?
Audio Jack:
It's good to hear that the jack is stereo. So I could get a set of stereo headphones/handsfree combo for music. Now I just have to wait for someone to hack support for bigger than 2gb of miniSD (I know there are some that still work, but the newer ones are faster...)
So, onto the lights:
To be clear, I'm not talking about the LCD display, just the lights in the hardware fascia.
Top Left
blinks green for GSM service
solid amber when connected to USB charger/PC
Top Right
blinks green for WiFi
blinks green for WiFi
Centre Bottom (under the "0+" key)
I've seen it lit when the keypad was lit for bootloader. I don't know when else it lights up
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The T-Mobile quickstart guide says that middle bottom one is the mic, which makes no sense as mine is filled with that plastic like the other LED lights. More likely the mic is the hole between the headphone jack and the pound (#) key .
The slot-like opening on the top back of the phone is the ringer/loud-speaker.
Along the narrow outer side of the phone, going clock-wise, we have 3 buttons:
volume toggle
comm manager
power/quicklist key
camera button
So the left and right-most buttons on the Start/Home row of buttons under the LCD are the "soft keys."
On the face above the standard numeric keypad and beneath the LCD, from top to bottom:
Start, Home, Back, Contacts/Menu/Context
Internet, Rewind, FF and Play/Pause
Extended press of Start key does nothing.
Extended press of Home starts Celetask (what would it start if no Celetask, and how would I configure it?)
Extended press of Back key does nothing.
Extended press of Contacts key does nothing.
Extended press of ie and windows media buttons do nothing, when not playing media, all 3 media buttons do nothing except start windows media player (and because these buttons are bigger than the more useful row above, windows media player starts a lot).
Is there more configurability for changing purpose of Media buttons when at Home screen or there is no Media context?
Is there any more configurability for adding extra extended key-press function for home/start row keys?
The "button fix" cab is to do what? Just make the buttons work properly with WM6, or to allow reassignment?
There's no way to disable all function (i.e. backlighting) of thumbstick while phone is locked?
I guess this is more of a WM6 question, but this type of smart phone doesn't use the Today screen with tabs?
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I'm actually a little surprised that there's no diagramming anywhere of button functions and that most binaries released don't have NFO files or that there's no list of what these standard files everybody downloads do. There's a couple nice lists of files to download, with some reference links, but a lack of information about their purposes.
That's why I was hoping that somewhere there was a Quick Start guide for the phone. Actually, I just found T-Mobile's here (clicky)
What's really stupid is that every other provider/reseller than T-Mobile of this handset makes you sign up for a "club" to access these PDFs and if your IMEI or serial number isn't in their database, you can't join the club.
Again guys, thanks for the info and I look forward to being able to contribute in the future.
I think they have to make you sign up for a club because it contains the ROM upgrade and the ROM are licensed, hence they just can't publish it publicly. Same reason why the ROM archive in xda-devs was told to be taken down months back ( but we dont give a damn )
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I think they have to make you sign up for a club because it contains the ROM upgrade and the ROM are licensed, hence they just can't publish it publicly. Same reason why the ROM archive in xda-devs was told to be taken down months back ( but we dont give a damn )
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I applaud that. I really hope they can't do anything against you.
I still have a few hanging questions.
I read somewhere about the Bluetooth stereo needing a registry hack. Does the hardware audiohone jack also require a hack? Is it proper stereo or joint stereo?
I'm still interested in changing functions of media buttons and adding extended keypress function to otther buttons like Celetask uses with the Home key.
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Centre Bottom (under the "0+" key)
I've seen it lit when the keypad was lit for bootloader. I don't know when else it lights up
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The T-Mobile quickstart guide says that middle bottom one is the mic, which makes no sense as mine is filled with that plastic like the other LED lights. More likely the mic is the hole between the headphone jack and the pound (#) key .
The slot-like opening on the top back of the phone is the ringer/loud-speaker.
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that's the light sensor.
and about the xt9 thing i think in smartphone general forum it's a sticky topic about this. now i write from mobile and don't have the mood to 'research' :-D
DSF said:
that's the light sensor.
and about the xt9 thing i think in smartphone general forum it's a sticky topic about this. now i write from mobile and don't have the mood to 'research' :-D
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The files there are for Vox and Xcalibur (sp?), do they work for Tornado too?
I found my answer to the English Spanish question here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271641&highlight=t9+spanish+english
* Extract T9SpanishLdb.dll and T9ImeRes.Dll040a.mui from t9_tornado.rar to \Windows
* [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\T9 Input Method\LDBs], add string value '040a' with data 'T9SpanishLdb.dll'
* [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\T9 Input Method\MUI\Languages], add '040a' to the list of 'Available', so the data will be '0409,040a' (or whatever your phone uses.. just add the one for the language you're installing)
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Any updates on re-mapping the media buttons? I would love to re-assign these keys to Messaging and other apps I use frequently.
On my Samsung Blackjack, there is actually a function in the Windows Mobile Settings called "Buttons", which allows me to reassign the buttons to pretty much anything. Does anyone know if there is a small app or something that could do this on my SDA (I have upgraded it to WM6 using the posted sticky instructions - thanks you guys, awesome work!)
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Any updates on re-mapping the media buttons? I would love to re-assign these keys to Messaging and other apps I use frequently.
On my Samsung Blackjack, there is actually a function in the Windows Mobile Settings called "Buttons", which allows me to reassign the buttons to pretty much anything. Does anyone know if there is a small app or something that could do this on my SDA (I have upgraded it to WM6 using the posted sticky instructions - thanks you guys, awesome work!)
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I don't know anything yet and no one has answered here.
The buttons are pretty stoopid. I didn't buy this phone for mulitmedia. I bought it for productivity apps. And these media buttons are so big that it's hard to miss them when using softkeys.
So until someone gives an answer, I guess we have to find our own answers and there's a bit of a learning curve for me.
I think I found it - check out post #4 in this HowardForums thread:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=865189
These exact instructions worked for me on my SDA running WM6 Perfect English Edition. I changed the last button to go to Messaging (tmail.exe).
Exitao said:
I found my answer to the English Spanish question here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271641&highlight=t9+spanish+english
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This wasn't the full answer to my question.
There's also a reg key:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\T9 Input Method\Settings] Options
Changing the d-word value to 1033 (00000409 should work too) from 00003317 is what gave me my language settings back.
It took a bit of looking to find out what 00003317 was. 3317 is a ghost script name for a Chinese simplified font, as far as I can tell.
The one thing you'll notice as you look at that string is that key shares that string with a another dword entry, "chinese pinyin."
As I don't read or speak putonghua, or any hua, I thought it might be nice to delete this key. But it just keeps turning up over nad over, like a bad penny.
there's another string elsewhere:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\TOUCH] Which could probably be safely removed from the ROM.
I wonder if we collected a list of all useless registry entries and had someone remove them from a future ROM, how much space could we save?
bigern79 said:
I think I found it - check out post #4 in this HowardForums thread:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=865189
These exact instructions worked for me on my SDA running WM6 Perfect English Edition. I changed the last button to go to Messaging (tmail.exe).
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Yes, you did find it. Yay!
Short_AP1
Short_AP2
Short_AP3
Short_AP4
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The files are in the Windows directory and they're just shortcuts. Easy to edit.
Just make sure that you use the button fix if your upgrade mod requires it, otherwise those shortcuts don't exist.
We'll also have to find out if it interferes with media player when it's the active app/window.
So, I'm loving the hell out of my Surface RT (64GB with black Touch cover) except for two things.
1: I use the actual function keys (F1-F12) a lot more than I need a shortcut key for the play/pause button or the Share charm. Due to the placement of the Fn button on the right side of the keyboard, it's difficult to use the keys the way I'm used to. For example, Alt+F4 is now Alt+Fn+Play/Pause, and requires two hands. If anybody can find a way to toggle the default state of the Fn key, I would be super-grateful! Ideally, I'd be able to actually remap he keys like you can on advanced USB keyboards; for example, I need the Home and End keys too, but rarely use F8-F10 so I'd like to remap those.
2: The default direction of the multitouch scroll drives me up a wall (but only if I try to drive down it). It's a pointing device, not a touchscreen, dammit! I expect it to function like a scroll wheel on a mouse, or the side-scroll on older PC touchpads, or the TrackPoint scroll on the Thinkpad, or... you get my point. Yes, I get that Apple did it first; they were dumb then, are still dumb now, and MS was very dumb to copy them. On the other hand, at least Apple lets you change it! If the direction of this scroll can be reversed (preferably without screwing up the scroll wheel of an actual mouse, if I were to connect one), that would be amazing.
I was really hoping that the included drivers would include controls for these things, the way Microsoft's normal mice and keyboards come with highly configurable drivers, or most Laptops come with fairly advanced Synaptics touchpad driver controls. If any of you have contacts at MS on or near the Surface team, tell them that we really want some drivers like those, please!
have you been able to resolve the Fn key issue?
GoodDayToDie said:
So, I'm loving the hell out of my Surface RT (64GB with black Touch cover) except for two things.
1: I use the actual function keys (F1-F12) a lot more than I need a shortcut key for the play/pause button or the Share charm. Due to the placement of the Fn button on the right side of the keyboard, it's difficult to use the keys the way I'm used to. For example, Alt+F4 is now Alt+Fn+Play/Pause, and requires two hands. If anybody can find a way to toggle the default state of the Fn key, I would be super-grateful! Ideally, I'd be able to actually remap he keys like you can on advanced USB keyboards; for example, I need the Home and End keys too, but rarely use F8-F10 so I'd like to remap those.
2: The default direction of the multitouch scroll drives me up a wall (but only if I try to drive down it). It's a pointing device, not a touchscreen, dammit! I expect it to function like a scroll wheel on a mouse, or the side-scroll on older PC touchpads, or the TrackPoint scroll on the Thinkpad, or... you get my point. Yes, I get that Apple did it first; they were dumb then, are still dumb now, and MS was very dumb to copy them. On the other hand, at least Apple lets you change it! If the direction of this scroll can be reversed (preferably without screwing up the scroll wheel of an actual mouse, if I were to connect one), that would be amazing.
I was really hoping that the included drivers would include controls for these things, the way Microsoft's normal mice and keyboards come with highly configurable drivers, or most Laptops come with fairly advanced Synaptics touchpad driver controls. If any of you have contacts at MS on or near the Surface team, tell them that we really want some drivers like those, please!
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The Fn Key issue is a little bit annoying, anybody have a solution for it?
Hey all,
I repurposed an old Android 2.3 phone (rooted HTC Wildfire S [marvelc]) as the navigation device for my motorcycle.
My motorcycle has a 4-way handlebar control for the factory navigation (which I don't feel like paying $900 for...)
I'm in the process of debugging the interface of that control on my motorcycle, and eventually I want to interface it to the marvelc via USB.
I was thinking on buying a cheap tablet keyboard and use the wires of that to access the functions that I need (I would need to "scroll" between UI elements, also to "click" on them, and use the "back" button somehow. I don't know if all of these are possible with a physical keyboard or not, but some very old Android devices had controls like this.)
I'm just trying to ask the community, if this option is even feasible?
Also, since I'll need a microcontroller for capturing the input of the 4-way control from the motorcycle, I was thinking on implementing the Android keyboard USB interface on that same microcontroller, but I couldn't find any documentation or protocol description on that. If you could point me in the right direction, I'd greatly appreciate it
Step one: Figure out which keys your nav app responds to.
Does it use arrow keys? volume keys? DPAD?
Use adb and the shell. For example, this sends ESCAPE
Code:
input keyevent 111
You can probably use a gutted keypad and wire up the switches.
It would probably make sense to have it wired for 4 arrow keys and enter.
That way you can test it easily on a desktop system.
If you need keys that are different, edit /system/usr/keylayout/qwerty.kl
Use my UsbMode.apk (in signature) to identify keyevents.
It's designed for something else for the Nook but it will display key events on any Android.
The only problem with gutted keypads is that they use matrix scanning.
If you need/want contacts to ground you'd be better off with a uP.
I like a Teensy 2.0 because it's small and has hardware USB.
This all presumes that your device support USB host mode.
Can anyone advise on how I could ho about changing the list of apps that gets started by the Mode function on my Xtrons unit (MTCD GS PX5 oreo)?
I know someone has done something similar with a Joying unit, but as far as I can see, they replaced the "Sofia-1-C9-Server... apk) with an alternative version.
I've pulled all the system apps to my PC via ADB (root) via WiFi, and I can see apps like MTCControlSettings.apk and MTCContolInfo.apk but there are no apks with "server" in their name
So I'm not sure where to start looking for the APK which handles the steering wheel control "Mode" handling.
Does anyone know how this is handled ?
are you able to resolve it? im having the same problem. btw my unit is a MTCE_CSN thanks
slidefriday said:
are you able to resolve it? im having the same problem. btw my unit is a MTCE_CSN thanks
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I've not had time to investigate this.
For the moment, I've just set my Mode button to be the Home button, as thats better the cycling through a load of useless "modes" like the AV input and their useless audio and video players.
I did try to work out how the radio communicated with the system apps, but I'm having a lot of difficulty de-odex'ing (decompiling) even the radio app. Because the apps are Oreo versions, and most of the decompilers don't fully support Oreo odex (compiled application program) files
I did post a question to the general Dev part of XDA about de-odex'ing Oreo files but didnt get any responses
I would be interested in this if you figure it it out as I'd like to get dab in the list of apps it cycles through.
RogerClark said:
I've not had time to investigate this.
For the moment, I've just set my Mode button to be the Home button, as thats better the cycling through a load of useless "modes" like the AV input and their useless audio and video players.(
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That would be enough for me, but with onboard apps or settings i haven't found a way to change it. I can use my Wheel control for changing volume and skipping music in any music app I am using, but the mode button always switches throug radio, ac input, mediaplayer and dvd.
The app for steering wheel control which was preinstalled on my head unit, doesn't react to any button and the firmware settings only to the hardware buttons of my head unit.
So, how did you do it?
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That would be enough for me, but with onboard apps or settings i haven't found a way to change it. I can use my Wheel control for changing volume and skipping music in any music app I am using, but the mode button always switches throug radio, ac input, mediaplayer and dvd.
The app for steering wheel control which was preinstalled on my head unit, doesn't react to any button and the firmware settings only to the hardware buttons of my head unit.
So, how did you do it?
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In the Settings, ( think its in the Car) section, is the setting (app) which allows you to associate specific steering wheel buttons with specific actions.
I thought all generic units had this app, because the steering wheel button for each car operate differently.
My Subaru only has one wire from the steering wheel, and has 6 buttons. Each button has a different electrical resistance, and you have to press each button, and then associate a Short Press and a Long Press, on that button, to a specific action.
The controls like Volume + and - and Track + and - and Mute are pretty standard.
The only other button I have is the Mode button, and I assigned that to the "Mode" action in the settings. However the Mode operation, cycles though a predefined list.
So I simply reassigned the Mode button to the Home action.
I did try a few other things, like seeing if I could press 2 buttons at the same time e.g Mode and Track +, but it either treated this as a press on the Mode button or a press on the Track + button. So that didn't work.
If I get time, I'll have another go at decompiling the system apps, but last time I tried to do that, I could not see anything that looked like the list of apps.
If I had programmed it, I'd probably put the app names into a string resource, but goodness knows what the programmed did who wrote the system apps in these units.
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In the Settings, ( think its in the Car) section, is the setting (app) which allows you to associate specific steering wheel buttons with specific actions.
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Thanks for the quick reply. I already tried the factory settings but my steering wheel buttons won't work there. I only can set action to the buttons on my radio. Sadly I have to wait for any other solution. But thanks again for sharing your experience :good:
What brand and model of HU do you have?
Hey,
Opel/Vaux/Chevy cars have canbus hard mapped buttons.
Mine can't be configured through the in-built apps or factory settings either.
One would have to examine the canbus.apk / MTCManager to maybe update the xposed for MTCDTools.
MTCD Tools can see the button codes (3 digits), but can't map any other function or even intercept.
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Hey,
Opel/Vaux/Chevy cars have canbus hard mapped buttons.
Mine can't be configured through the in-built apps or factory settings either.
One would have to examine the canbus.apk / MTCManager to maybe update the xposed for MTCDTools.
MTCD Tools can see the button codes (3 digits), but can't map any other function or even intercept.
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What brand and model of HU do you have?
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I have a Xtrons PB78QSFP-B which is designed for a Ford Focus and came with a standard canbus adapter for ford. But I have the old model of the HU which has only 2GB Ram not 4.
My guess is, that Ford has hard mapped buttons too, like Xorit said it about Opel/Vaux etc
update guys! mtcdtools will do the trick! though the old mapping will flicker but still the newly assigned actions will prevail.
i can live with this already. maybe ill just find the solution to delete the factory set MODE actions :laugh:
slidefriday said:
update guys! mtcdtools will do the trick! though the old mapping will flicker but still the newly assigned actions will prevail.
i can live with this already. maybe ill just find the solution to delete the factory set MODE actions :laugh:
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Did your have to root your unit or install anything like Xposed etc? Or does it just work with the stock firmware?
works with stock fw. im not yet doing any firmware mods
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works with stock fw. im not yet doing any firmware mods
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Good to know
Hey guys. About a year ago I installed a Teyes T-Pro in my '14 Focus ST, and while its better than the ST1 radio I had with a 4" screen, I hate this thing. An entire 1 inch vertical segment of the screen does not work, the screen does not turn on when the ambient temp is below 50 degrees F (until it heats itself up, takes like 25+ min in winter), subwoofer pre out doesn't work, and many many more stupid issues.
The reason I'm posting, though, is I would like to remap one of the steering wheel keys. The built in app to do this, of course, does nothing. Apps like button remapper also do nothing, probably bc the buttons function over CAN-Bus. When I press the microphone button on my steering wheel it opens an app called "car-info" which also does almost nothing. I am wondering if there is a way to have another app (google assistant) open right after this "Car-info" app opens. Also, if anyone has any experience with the T-Pro any input would be very appreciated. TEYES Tech support never responded to my multiple messages, of course, and I can't seem to find a head unit that sucks less and I don't want to roll the dice on another Teyes product.
Any input would be greatly appreciated...
Thanks a ton
Anyone got anything?
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Anyone got anything?
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Contact TEYESAustralia, Hopefully they can give you a solution
What kind of car do you have (year, make, model, etc)?
Did you install the T-Pro yourself?
Do you have schematics for your car? If so, how do your steering wheel buttons connect to the old head unit?
Can you tell from the schematics if the buttons are resistive or not? Only resistive buttons can be remapped.
If your SWC are resistive, then you should be able to directly connect those buttons to the T-Pro inputs...I believe they are labelled key1 and key2. If the SWC are not resistive, I don't believe there is anything you can do about remapping them.