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Proposal for mod rom versioning

One of the big issues I have noticed is that there is no rationale behind the version number assignment for a lot of the mod firmware. There are different modders using their own versioning, and there isn't even a hint of what version of android they are using, so we have things like;
"KiNgxKxROM Version 1.1r1"
"The Official Blur - Hero-V1.5.7 by Drizzy"
"JACxHEROSkiv2.2"
"CyanogenMod 4.1.11.1"
*** these all have the same problem... what version of android do they correspond to? How new IS each one of them?
I would like to propose a new standard to be adopted by everyone.
name-officialversion-modversion.
Of the form i.e.
"superxmod-1.6.DRC83-0.1.0.0"
***WHERE the modversion RESETS TO ZERO each time the official version increases, so for example, "CyanogenMod 4.1.11.1" should be called "CyanogenMod-1.6.DRC63-0.1.11.1".
* this will allow the user to immediately know where this rom comes from in terms of the official android versions and approximately how old it is.

I do my best
I do my best ... with the "limited space" we're given for Thread Titles on the forum.
~enom~

I support this though I find it unnecessary. The new beginner user will most likely READ atleast the first post of the thread and they will know what the ROM is based off of. The end user will of course know to read the thread before doing any flashing of any kind so organizing mod rom versioning isn't a necessity. It's convienent but not necessary

I support this because it would make ROM catalogs easier to build, which would benefit the whole community.

why not just post what android version the rom is based on in the first post. First post should always hold the most info anyways.

Since this thread hasn't been moved from the Dev section so far.
+1 for the versioning.
Also, how about we all stick to one benchmarking app (or is there any one app that we CAN rely on)
to test performance of ROMs, so that there's an objective way of figuring out
whether the latest frankenROM (thanks devs! ) is faster than X or Y?
Benchmark Pi has a score that's difficult to figure out, seeing as it throws up an
awesome number on a fairly sluggish HERO whereas the score for a fast-as-light
cyan ROM is way way worse. I know that Benchmark Pi isn't the answer,
not by a long shot. So is there a better alternative out there?
I'm tired of posts that go "THIS IS WAY FASTER! THANKS!" only to find
that the supposed speed increase is more rooted in perception than in
reality.
We need definitive numbers for ModelNumber+ROMVersion+CC/SwapSettings combinations.
Any help?

alritewhadeva said:
The end user will of course know to read the thread before doing any flashing of any kind
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rofl. Funniest thing i've read all week.

+1
how about shorthand naming such as
for example:
CyanogenMod = CM-AOSP1.6r1-v4.20

If you're talking about cyanogen mod, you might want to add a couple more zeroes at the end. Anyway, I had proposed this too a while ago. I like your format, and I'll go one better; let's do cook-androidVersion-buildVersion-feature.bugfix
for example, the build I made this morning would be "jm-1.6-Donut eng.jubeh.20090930.070211-0.0"
jm is what I use for my builds (short for jubehMod)
1.6 is the current android branch (as per build.prop, no 1.6_r1 yet)
Donut eng.jubeh.20090930.070211 is the build number the compiler assigned to my build, people who work off of modding factory releases or build for dream_open are the ones who usually come up with things like CRC or DRC etc, I build for "AOSP for Dream" (it's a new "vendor" added)
first 0 is feature number, at this point my build is nothing but stock AOSP donut, no Google apps, no a2sd, no netfilter, no compcache, no bfs, just stock donut, so say I were to add a2sd, then I'd go up to 1, as I would have added one or more features (and this would be listed at the change log), basically, anything added that improves the build (and that's not a fix) is a +1 to feature
second 0 is bugfix. For example, right now my build works correctly in every sense, but I have a problem with the video camera where video is of very poor quality (real problem, I'm trying to figure it out), so say i get it fixed, then my bugfix number would go up 1, so basically, anything changed in the build strictly because it didn't work as intended is a bugfix
the last two numbers would be allowed to go past 9, so no more pressures to add .1s at the end like cyanogen was doing to prevent jumping to build # 4.2

karthikjr said:
+1 for the versioning.
Also, how about we all stick to one benchmarking app (or is there any one app that we CAN rely on)
to test performance of ROMs, so that there's an objective way of figuring out
whether the latest frankenROM (thanks devs! ) is faster than X or Y?
Benchmark Pi has a score that's difficult to figure out, seeing as it throws up an
awesome number on a fairly sluggish HERO whereas the score for a fast-as-light
cyan ROM is way way worse. I know that Benchmark Pi isn't the answer,
not by a long shot. So is there a better alternative out there?
I'm tired of posts that go "THIS IS WAY FASTER! THANKS!" only to find
that the supposed speed increase is more rooted in perception than in
reality.
We need definitive numbers for ModelNumber+ROMVersion+CC/SwapSettings combinations.
Any help?
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yes just bench mark. its much better than benchmark pi only test the cpu really

by the way, I've been saving pretty much all roms that have been posted here (notable exceptions are haykuro's, jf's, and theduded's roms, I haven't been here THAT long) and I have them all saved on my computer separated by /cook/build/ for the Dream roms and /build/cook/ for the Hero ports. I guess I could run a quick filesystem lister and upload that list for people to see so they can sort of get an idea what mod release corresponds to what build

Here we go, I had to upload it inside a zip because of the stupid 2kb limitation on text files (this is 10kb)

lbcoder said:
One of the big issues I have noticed is that there is no rationale behind the version number assignment for a lot of the mod firmware. There are different modders using their own versioning, and there isn't even a hint of what version of android they are using, so we have things like;
"KiNgxKxROM Version 1.1r1"
"The Official Blur - Hero-V1.5.7 by Drizzy"
"JACxHEROSkiv2.2"
"CyanogenMod 4.1.11.1"
*** these all have the same problem... what version of android do they correspond to? How new IS each one of them?
I would like to propose a new standard to be adopted by everyone.
name-officialversion-modversion.
Of the form i.e.
"superxmod-1.6.DRC83-0.1.0.0"
***WHERE the modversion RESETS TO ZERO each time the official version increases, so for example, "CyanogenMod 4.1.11.1" should be called "CyanogenMod-1.6.DRC63-0.1.11.1".
* this will allow the user to immediately know where this rom comes from in terms of the official android versions and approximately how old it is.
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Hi jubeh,
Thanks, this kind of cataloging is exactly why the OP's suggestion will be helpful.

karthikjr said:
We need definitive numbers for ModelNumber+ROMVersion+CC/SwapSettings combinations.
Any help?
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I'm not so sure that we do...
I think that that should be more of a "details" thing.
Maybe we can go with "name-officialversion-modversion[-custom]" (square braces mean optional). Name might be a good place to keep modelnumber (I assume you mean by that "dream", "magic", "hero", etc.),
i.e.: supercustomrom(DREAM)-1.6r1-0.0.0.0.0.0.0.1-cc_swap_a2sd

[Q] lg p500 general query?

i have p500 for past one year and i want to grow my knowledge about smartphones , hardware, software , solid state electronic devices and of course usability! i am going to ask you some question about one of the revolutionary topic(telecommunication and integration of other devices in one smartphone circuits) of humankind! my topic is bit lengthy(and interesting for first time smartphone and android user) but hey devil in detail right!
part 1 - general
whats the main difference between hardware and software of a basic , feature and smartphone mobile! do 1 ghz of iphone processor equal to the computational power of 1 ghz desktop processor? why a feature phone browser have wap and pain to setup it than smartphone browser http! i know all the os and aps are made from programming language and framework,digital logic and circuits do different business companies just hire computer programmer to make living just to make things look and feel little different from one another(bada,android,windows,ios etc). ?
part 2 - future
how much upgrade p500 can take i have already checked rasheds jellybean rom(working but full with bugs) , do you think p500 can take all upcoming upgrade smoothly ? i know p500 have capability but not sure can his rom support upcoming android upgrade easily? can you really make a rom perfect for p500 like they work in high end phones?
part 3- applications
no one will spend extra money on a telecommunication devices if it cannot make him happy or play desire application! i need tts in hindi for android and a application of android which can translate english or other language pdf,,files,document etc to my own language(hindi) and then converted file can be read by tts in hindi?
i know smartphone is palm computer with some extra hardware attached to it (sensors,phone call,internet)! i have multiboot pc and not much problem installing uninstalling it! but for my smartphone i had to read and understand hundreds of thread and forums just to know root , flash and reinstall features! i had rooted, flashed , installed custom rom and then third and bricked my phone in a single day! now solved but for future troubleshoot want to know the difference between recovery image and baseband version ! do a kdz lg tool change the baseband and recovery,rom image simultaneously! i have now oxyzen 4.0 and v20d firmware and i heard there is v20e and further available so is there any benefit and safe wy to upgrade my firmware? i have also noticed that i need a recovery image or boot manager which can support all rom from different vendors and developers can this possible?
please answer my doubts! thanks!

kunalrssingh said:
i have p500 for past one year and i want to grow my knowledge about smartphones , hardware, software , solid state electronic devices and of course usability! i am going to ask you some question about one of the revolutionary topic(telecommunication and integration of other devices in one smartphone circuits) of humankind! my topic is bit lengthy(and interesting for first time smartphone and android user) but hey devil in detail right!
part 1 - general
whats the main difference between hardware and software of a basic , feature and smartphone mobile! do 1 ghz of iphone processor equal to the computational power of 1 ghz desktop processor? why a feature phone browser have wap and pain to setup it than smartphone browser http! i know all the os and aps are made from programming language and framework,digital logic and circuits do different business companies just hire computer programmer to make living just to make things look and feel little different from one another(bada,android,windows,ios etc). ?
part 2 - future
how much upgrade p500 can take i have already checked rasheds jellybean rom(working but full with bugs) , do you think p500 can take all upcoming upgrade smoothly ? i know p500 have capability but not sure can his rom support upcoming android upgrade easily? can you really make a rom perfect for p500 like they work in high end phones?
part 3- applications
no one will spend extra money on a telecommunication devices if it cannot make him happy or play desire application! i need tts in hindi for android and a application of android which can translate english or other language pdf,,files,document etc to my own language(hindi) and then converted file can be read by tts in hindi?
i know smartphone is palm computer with some extra hardware attached to it (sensors,phone call,internet)! i have multiboot pc and not much problem installing uninstalling it! but for my smartphone i had to read and understand hundreds of thread and forums just to know root , flash and reinstall features! i had rooted, flashed , installed custom rom and then third and bricked my phone in a single day! now solved but for future troubleshoot want to know the difference between recovery image and baseband version ! do a kdz lg tool change the baseband and recovery,rom image simultaneously! i have now oxyzen 4.0 and v20d firmware and i heard there is v20e and further available so is there any benefit and safe wy to upgrade my firmware? i have also noticed that i need a recovery image or boot manager which can support all rom from different vendors and developers can this possible?
please answer my doubts! thanks!
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1. Difference between hardware and software:
Hardware is physical, for example the CPU or memory or whatever. Software means that files in the memory.
A 1 GHz+ phone‘s CPU is not the same as a PC‘s one. On the PC it have more voltage and so it is working faster.
2. Nobody knows until which android version our phone can run. The only soloution is to try that.
3. Recovery is installed on every Android smartphone and tablet. In recovery mode you can wipe data, flash new ROMs or even flash another recoveries. But if you want to flash something, it must end with .zip
You need the baseband to call, send sms or whatever what needs your sim-card. Without the baseband (like when you did something wrong while installing new bb) you can not receive nor do calls, send sms or whatever.
You don‘t need to upgrade baseband to V20E! It‘s specified for other countrys, and you have the right baseband. So just ignore it.
NO YOU CAN NOT FLASH ROMS FROM OTHER DEVELOPERS! YOU‘LL BRICK YOUR PHONE!

is their tts for Hindi and software to convert a document in Hindi language and speak it in Hindi for android

Dynavin D99+ Android new kernel for GB or ICS ?

Hey there.
I have this Device now a few months.
ht tp: // www . dynavin . com / android.php
Its called D99+
The Device works on Android 2.2.3 for further informations please ask me.
I have rooted it with a custom rom from this thread: ht tp: // forum . e46fanatics . com / showthread.php ? t=909077
Is there any possibility to upgrade to Gingerbread or ICS ? The guy who works on the custom roms says, we need a new kernel. Dynavin.com doesnt gives any sources etc.
Does anybody from you have the possibility to create a new kernel for this device, so i can install ginger or ics on it? Froyo is so annoying
I even would pay for a good working solution (kernel + - custom rom) !
Anybody can help me please?
Greetings from germany
Chris
P.S.: Cant add direct links. Sorry.

I really wish this device could get some xda love... froyo sucks.

i agree.. 2.2.3 is way to old!

If any dev was willing to put some work into this I would be willing to offer up some start up cash and some cash upon completion, maybe we can start a pool?
This device is horribly behind software wise. They did a great job making it look the part, but functionally its near useless for someone even alittle bit into the audio side.
My main gripes, lack of EQ controls, an android side that worked reliably. a better bluetooth interface (even if this went through the android side that would be fine); and a few other small things. Just the flow and feel of the device isnt "fluid"
If any devs need a device to work on, I could probably work something out to send my headunit to you for testing as well..

The "Complete" sensation rom

Brown=Test Done
Green=Good
Red=Bad
Blue=Not really Important
Hi Guys!!! :victory:
Even if it seems I’m a New User, I’ve been reading on your website for very Long time and I gained a LOT of experience with android phones thanks to you GENIUS DEVELOPERS and I’m sure I can share my experiences in this forum to help as well as been helped!!
Now, after days and days of research, tests and missed sleep hours, :silly: with Proper ROM, Kernel and Accessories I “ALMOST REACH” my final dream Phone thanks to you guys!
Wait, I’ll explain...
Basically my Girlfriend has the Samsung Galaxy S3 and I have my HTC Sensation XE...and the S3 is one of the most "complete" phone I’ve ever seen! It does EVERYTHING I’ve always wanted from my phone....by “Stock”!!!!
Now, I’m SURE you can understand me guys...I saw what an Android phone can do and I KNOW my sensation XE has the potentiality to do MUCH MORE that the limits that HTC put on his stock ROM without modify any hardware so it can become as powerful and complete as, let’s say, a mini-S3!
This is become my challenge, my goal (and MY OBSESSION! ) and after AGES...I ALMOST reached it....I’m very Close and I need your help and I’ll offer mine as well to make the “FINAL SENSATION ROM”!!
Now, after this LONG and BORING introduction:
What I want from my Sensation XE is basically the most “Complete” phone possible:
1- OTG USB “Fully Working”
2- Bluetooth drivers compatibles with applications like Sixaxis to connect the PS3 controllers
3- Keep a “Fully Working” MHL-HDMI
4- Keep a “Fully working Beats” and the compatibility with the mic and the play\pause\next\prev buttons integrated on the Beats cable for Sensation XE
5- Increase volume Loud-Speakers
6- Improve Battery
7- Improve Camera
8- Improve performance and boot time
9- Various personalization
And now I’ll share all my experiences:
--I first Fully rooted my phone
--Flashed PG58IMG.zip with Firmware 3.33.401.6 for ICS ROMs (HBOOT-1.29, Radio 11.24A, 4Ext 1.0.0.5-RC9, ADSP) ALL IN ONE!!
--Tried the first ROM:
Sense-o-Maniac - Sense4.1 v1.2.0
1- OTG USB not working
2- Bluetooth drivers NOT compatibles with applications like Sixaxis to connect the PS3 controllers
3- MHL-HDMI video-out not working (only audio and black screen)
4- “Fully working Beats”
5- Better volume Loud-Speakers
6- SUPER Improved Battery
7- Improved Camera
8- Improved performance and boot-time
9- Few personalization and tweaks
--Then I added the “Overclocked_kernel_v1.5.2_by_SebastianFM” to the ROM and magically I had:
Sense-o-Maniac - Sense4.1 v1.2.0 + Overclocked_kernel_v1.5.2_by_SebastianFM
1- OTG USB working 90%; keyboard, mouses and even cabled PS3 controller perfectly working BUT to Mount Hard drives and pen drives it was necessary the app “USB\OTG HELPER” and to mount another sensation as USB-Disk-Drive it was necessary the app “USB Host Controller”. No “system support” so no auto-mount hard drives, USB-Storage not listed on “settings\storage\” after the “Internal Storage” and the “SD Storage” and no media-scan of the USB-Storage’s content in the gallery (No images from USB device appear in gallery, no songs in music, etc)
2- From 2 to 9 pretty much the same.
--then I discover the GENIUS KERNEL “PYD-X - 3.8.1 beta – ViperS” and another point of my list was working:
Sense-o-Maniac - Sense4.1 v1.2.0 + “PYD-X - 3.8.1 beta – ViperS” kernel
1- OTG USB working 90%; Everything like the Overclocked_kernel_v1.5.2_by_SebastianFM plus the tests done with the “Sixaxis controller” app and the “PS3 PairingTool” which don’t “sense” the PS3 controller via OTG (even if buttons and sticks works around the menus) and keep asking to insert the controller via USB to change the PS3 Controller Bluetooth MAC-Address
2- Bluetooth drivers COMPATIBLE with applications like Sixaxis Controller (v0.5.7 only) to connect the PS3 controllers (after change the controller’s Bluetooth MAC-Address by PC) but it cause the WiFi to stop working until the reboot
3- From 3 to 9 pretty much the same.
--Then I decided to try other ROM:
Elegancia-Sense4.1-v3.2.0
having EXACTLY the same results.
--and keep trying and trying I suddently had MUCH better results with:
“ViperS_1.6.2” ROM + “PYD-X - 3.8.1 beta – ViperS” kernel
1- OTG USB working 90%exactly like in the 2 previous ROM
2- Bluetooth drivers COMPATIBLE with Issues exactly like in the 2 previous ROM
3- MHL-HDMI --working-- PERFECTLY!! (after turn it on in the Venom Tweaks Misc Menu)
4- Fully Working Beats like previous 2 ROMs
5- MUCH Better volume Loud-Speakers(The Best!)
7- Slightly less Improved Battery than the other 2 ROMs
6- Same Improved Camera
8- Improved performance and boot-time
9- LOADS and LOADS of personalization, tweaks and BEAUTIFUL ANIMATIONS of the menus
--so at this point I was quiet satisfied of the results but I wanted to fix that problem with the Compatible Bluetooth drivers and the WiFi so I tried the last test version of Pacha’s Kernel
“PYD-X 4.1.9 + kernel reset (non-bootloop)”
But somehow it broke the MHL-HDMI even on ViperS ROM
so I went back to the 3.8.1 version and changed ROM to the Rock Solid
Android_Revolution_HD-Sensation_6.8.0_XE + “PYD-X - 3.8.1 beta – ARHD” Kernel:
1- OTG USB working 90% exactly like all previous ROM
2- Bluetooth drivers Sixaxis-COMPATIBLE with NO ISSUE AT ALL!! Wifi and Sixaxis worked perfectly at the same time!
3- MHL-HDMI --working—PERFECTLY!!!
4- Fully Working Beats like previous 3 ROMs
5- Same Loud-Speakers volume as stock
6- VERY Improved Battery
7- No much Improved Camera (I hate the sensation stock camera!!)
8- Improved performance and boot-time
9- Almost no personalizations at all so a little too “STOCK-Look”
--so at this point I was VERY happy but I decided to try anyway few AOSP ROM without sense and the tempting JellyBean:
CyanogenMod-10-20130109-bruce2728-pyramid,
OpenSensation2-20121210-pyramid
And the best of the 3 AOSP in EVERYTHING I tested:
AOKP_pyramid_unofficial_Jan-20-13
1- OTG USB working 100%!! The System recognized and mounted instantaneously (without any app) all USB-Drive I tested and all the media in the USB magically appeared in Gallery and Music. “USB Storage” was now listed in “Setting\Storage” and it perfectly “sensed” and paired the PS3 Controller without the any PC’s Help.
2- Bluetooth drivers Sixaxis works quick and FLAWLESS without any issue already at “Method 1” of the Sixaxis controller app
3- MHL-HDMI sound ok but the video out is full of issues and instable
4- Workaround for the beats that seems to bring the good enchanted beats sound but loses somehow the compatibility with all the buttons (play\pause\next\prev) integrated on the cable
5- Improved volume Loud-Speakers
6- Improved Battery
7- Improved Camera (I personally still prefer the VenomS’ Camera)
8- SUPER Improved performance and boot-time!! The phone is SUPER SMOOTH, it boots in HALF TIME of other ROMS!!
9- LOADS of personalizations and a general sensation of smoothness and pleasure for the eyes with all the animations
CONCLUSIONS:
I thank you very much all who had the patience to read this until the end, I say sorry for my English and if I said something stupid feel free to correct me and PLEASE guys (since I'm NOT allow yet to write in Development session), make sure Venom Team, ARHD Team, AOKP Team, xXxPachaXxX, SebastianFM and Every Sensation Developer (sorry if I don't Name ALL of you :angel: ) read this so they may see which are the good and bad points of them ROMs, collaborate and make the best Complete ULTIMATE SENSATION ROM!!
I will help as much as I can with Donation and to test on my phone, Just let me know which Log you need and I’ll Post!
Ps.
Love you Guys!! :good:

Just a little side note about first posts...
THIS IS HOW IT'S F'ING DONE, PEOPLE!!!! :good:
This post should be made part of the user sign up process and used as an example that says
If you are going to make well written, thoughtful, usefull posts like these, then welcome to the forums.
If your posts are going to say something like "Why my phone not work?! HELP!" or "This custom rom sux!" or "Let me ask about a thoroughly covered topic because I didn't spend 2 seconds to search and see if my answer was already here" then step away from the keyboard and go tell your mommy to put your down for nap time, Mr. Cranky Pants.
Ciusepp, thank you for making such a well organized and well thought out post. You are a great example for other new forum members. :victory::highfive:

This should be posted in general thread not q&a
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using Tapatalk 2

Skipjacks said:
Just a little side note about first posts...
THIS IS HOW IT'S F'ING DONE, PEOPLE!!!! :good:
This post should be made part of the user sign up process and used as an example that says
If you are going to make well written, thoughtful, usefull posts like these, then welcome to the forums.
If your posts are going to say something like "Why my phone not work?! HELP!" or "This custom rom sux!" or "Let me ask about a thoroughly covered topic because I didn't spend 2 seconds to search and see if my answer was already here" then step away from the keyboard and go tell your mommy to put your down for nap time, Mr. Cranky Pants.
Ciusepp, thank you for making such a well organized and well thought out post. You are a great example for other new forum members. :victory::highfive:
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Thank >>YOU<< Skipjacks!!! :victory::highfive:
That's the most warm welcome I could ever ask!!

elvisypi said:
This should be posted in general thread not q&a
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using Tapatalk 2
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Hello elvisypi!
if you can, PLEASE feel free to move or tell to move my thread in a better place...:fingers-crossed:
I didn't want to post it in Q&A because the goal of this thread it was to give to ROMs and Kernels' developers some Ideas of what is great and what is missed in them work but I still don't have rights to write in other threads and in here it's quite useless...
I don't think any of the developers I mentioned (or not) do even know yet of this thread existence...:crying:

Ciusepp said:
Hello elvisypi!
if you can, PLEASE feel free to move or tell to move my thread in a better place...:fingers-crossed:
I didn't want to post it in Q&A because the goal of this thread it was to give to ROMs and Kernels' developers some Ideas of what is great and what is missed in them work but I still don't have rights to write in other threads and in here it's quite useless...
I don't think any of the developers I mentioned (or not) do even know yet of this thread existence...:crying:
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On that note, don't worry about devs not knowing what's good and bad about their roms.
Presidential candidates aren't as scrutinized as a new rom on XDA.
If something doesn't work on a new rom, the dev will hear about 25 times in the first hour, then another 30 times after he corrects the problem and posts a new bug free build. And then some idiot will show up 3 weeks later without searching the thread and ask why he's getting that bug even though he hasn't updated his rom to any of the 20 newer builds since the bug was fixed.
Pick any rom development thread...at random...read the whole whole thing, and you will see this pattern repeat itself over and over and over. Try not to get too annoyed by it...but it's hard to remain calm sometimes.
So while your guide is great for other users trying to pick which ROM is the best one for their needs, you're not telling developers anything they don't already know. It's great information, but it's other users who will benefit from it.

You have really done a good work n I feel u have seriously searched a lot and made a systematic thread this vll surely help newbees to select roms n get some knowledge......
If I have helped you hit the thanx button
sent from HTC sensation using XDA PREMIUM APP

Nice thread man. Every one here can help. Personnaly have no skills in programming but i can test every thing that comes out.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium

Skipjacks said:
On that note, don't worry about devs not knowing what's good and bad about their roms.
Presidential candidates aren't as scrutinized as a new rom on XDA.
If something doesn't work on a new rom, the dev will hear about 25 times in the first hour, then another 30 times after he corrects the problem and posts a new bug free build. And then some idiot will show up 3 weeks later without searching the thread and ask why he's getting that bug even though he hasn't updated his rom to any of the 20 newer builds since the bug was fixed.
Pick any rom development thread...at random...read the whole whole thing, and you will see this pattern repeat itself over and over and over. Try not to get too annoyed by it...but it's hard to remain calm sometimes.
So while your guide is great for other users trying to pick which ROM is the best one for their needs, you're not telling developers anything they don't already know. It's great information, but it's other users who will benefit from it.
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Skipjacks thank you for your replies, they are always constructive!
Believe me I read few >>FULL<< threads and I know EXACTLY what are you talking about...sometime it’s just FRUSTRATING!!!
I’m VERY happy to help other users but the reason I would like some of the developers to read this thread as well, is because it’s not a “this doesn’t work, please fix it”-thread, but more like “this doesn’t work here but it DOES WORK in there but there doesn’t work this but it WORKS in here”-thread, so the Genius Developers can help each-other “fusing” all the working features and make the “Complete-Sensation”
I also would like them to know that I'm offering my help as a tester since I have a spare sensation, OTG Cables (powered and not powered) and MHL cable and I think they may need “Hamsters” like me to try on their new betas!
Anyway I guess I will just wait until I’m allowed to write in developers thread and place a link to this thread, all I want is to be helpful! :fingers-crossed:

shrex said:
You have really done a good work n I feel u have seriously searched a lot and made a systematic thread this vll surely help newbees to select roms n get some knowledge.....
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Thank you shrex, as soon as my girlfriend went in Holidays I had some time to dedicate to my “geekness” and I spent it ALL researching and Testing... Hopefully it’s gonna help someone...:fingers-crossed:

hedifezai said:
Nice thread man. Every one here can help. Personnaly have no skills in programming but i can test every thing that comes out.
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[Q] Question industrialization devices Android

Hi there,
Good news for me and for the android community, my company decided to replace all blackberry devices by android devices (Normally by 3 model Samsung.)
Of course, this must be done quickly.
We have around 1000 devices to replace.
My question is : How can we create a "master" to industrialize the process ?
One device needs a lot of "tuning". Like applications of course, launch bar shortcut, desktop to personnalise... I guess one device need at least 45 minutes to be ready for the user. This is not really good
We have BES10 has a MDM. But as you know, BES10 can't totally manage Android devices.
Is there a way to clone a device ? With all applications and custom settings ?
Many thanks.
NB : I hope the general section will be the good one.

No way to do that ?

up ? maybe a magical application to do that ?