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[Q] Stuck in bootloop after 6 months of smooth sailing, can't access recovery

Hi everyone!
I've been searching and reading around trying to solve a bootloop problem on my HTC Desire S/Saga (or at least I think it is a bootloop problem) but, so far, I've had no luck.
Here's what has happened and what's going on:
1) S-off and got hboot 6.98.1002 through revolutionary
2) phone worked normally for six months and suddenly, without any changes or flashes, it rebooted and started a boot loop, ie, I can't get into any in-OS menus.
3) Choosing recovery of factory settings from hboot menu just reboots the phone and restarts the loop.
4) I've tried flashing (both through fastboot and android flasher) the eng hboot 0.98.0000 and clockworkmod recovery images but neither had any effect.
Phone was vodafone-locked, running a vanilla Android 2.3.4.
hboot menu data:
SAGA PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-6.98.1002
RADIO-3822.10.08.04_M
eMMC-boot
I don't have any backup data from pre-revolutionary, either :|
I'm knocking my head against the walls, hoping that the phone's only temporarily bricked... any ideas?
Thanks in advance for helping a n00b...

Doesn't sound like a hboot problem you me, but that could just be me. And I don't think flashing the stock hboot will help.
Are you sure you are flashing the ENG hboot? It's 0.98.2000. 0.98.0000 is most likely your stock hboot and can't be flashed over revolutionary hboot in most cases.
So to get back to stock stock..... You will need to run your RUU after the new hboot has been flashed.
Another option is for you to install a custom ROM and avoiding the RUU. I still suggest you flash the ENG hboot though.

Head for this thread for help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488672

Thanks everybody!
I've been away for the last few days so I haven't been able to test anything, but tomorrow evening I'll test both suggestions and post feedback.
Thanks again!

So, I've trying out your suggestions and...
foX2delta said:
Doesn't sound like a hboot problem you me, but that could just be me. And I don't think flashing the stock hboot will help.
Are you sure you are flashing the ENG hboot? It's 0.98.2000. 0.98.0000 is most likely your stock hboot and can't be flashed over revolutionary hboot in most cases.
So to get back to stock stock..... You will need to run your RUU after the new hboot has been flashed.
Another option is for you to install a custom ROM and avoiding the RUU. I still suggest you flash the ENG hboot though.
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So I tried to flash the ENG hboot from this thread, using android flasher and later using this method, but adb never lists my Saga.
Fastboot lists it correctly, though. I *think* I had USB debugging on, if I recall correctly.
Using androidflasher I get a flash ok notice and then the bootloop just restarts...
Any ideas?
mOh19973 said:
Head for this thread for help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488672
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Thanks moh19973, I'll leave feedback at your thread (no luck, though..)
thanks again to everybody

Opalid said:
Hi everyone!
I've been searching and reading around trying to solve a bootloop problem on my HTC Desire S/Saga (or at least I think it is a bootloop problem) but, so far, I've had no luck.
Here's what has happened and what's going on:
1) S-off and got hboot 6.98.1002 through revolutionary
2) phone worked normally for six months and suddenly, without any changes or flashes, it rebooted and started a boot loop, ie, I can't get into any in-OS menus.
3) Choosing recovery of factory settings from hboot menu just reboots the phone and restarts the loop.
4) I've tried flashing (both through fastboot and android flasher) the eng hboot 0.98.0000 and clockworkmod recovery images but neither had any effect.
Phone was vodafone-locked, running a vanilla Android 2.3.4.
hboot menu data:
SAGA PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-6.98.1002
RADIO-3822.10.08.04_M
eMMC-boot
I don't have any backup data from pre-revolutionary, either :|
I'm knocking my head against the walls, hoping that the phone's only temporarily bricked... any ideas?
Thanks in advance for helping a n00b...
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Your problem sounds exactly like the one on the thread linked below.... in which case, if you just try the steps from the concerned thread, and are still unable to fix your device, it can be written off as another dead eMMC...
Just follow the instructions on this thread...maybe you will have better luck than the OP?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1507106

So did your hboot change or not? If hboot and recovery won't flash then I have to agree with above, fried emmc :-(

yeah it could be an emmc problem, you may want to check the sticky in the development forum, if this is the real problem there is a possibility for a fix, not necessarily emmc replacement

enigmaamit said:
Your problem sounds exactly like the one on the thread linked below.... in which case, if you just try the steps from the concerned thread, and are still unable to fix your device, it can be written off as another dead eMMC...
Just follow the instructions on this thread...maybe you will have better luck than the OP?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1507106
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Thanks, tried everything and had the exact same results. Fried eMMC, I guess..
This is really wierd, I got a phonecall, turned the call off, the phone rebooted and entered the bootloop.
Nothing fishy or wierd, no flashing erros, just a regular phonecall from my boss. Damn :|
If only I could get the normal hboot on I could repair it under warranty
Well, thanks everybody

Try going for warranty repair, for a few guys over here at xda no one checked (or din not care) whether the phone was rooted or s-off when they went to service their phone. Maybe you'll get lucky too. Good luck!

[Q] HTC Sensation 4G stuck. Won't boot. Bricked?

Hello,
I am having some trouble with my T-mobile Sensation 4G. I was trying to install a Rom and seemed to have failed. At this point it will not boot past the first white screen with the green HTC logo.
I can get it into fastboot and Clorkwork mod recovery. However, I am not really sure what to do.
I have tried superwipe and it fails. Bootloader screen is as follows:
-Revolutionary
Pyramid PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT- 1.27.1100
RADIO- 11.22.3504.07_M
OPENADSP-V02.6.0.2226.00.0131
EMMC-BOOT
JAN 13 2012, 17:33:34
If I need to provide more information just let me know. Any help to get it back up and running would be great. I really appreciate your time and help.
Thank you in advance.

Most likely the rom will not boot on your current firmware. What rom is installed?
Option 1 is to restore a backup since you can access recovery.
Option 2 is to put the correct firmware on your SD using a PC, reinsert and let your phone update.
Sent from my HTC Pyramid using xda premium

stringer7 said:
Most likely the rom will not boot on your current firmware. What rom is installed?
Option 1 is to restore a backup since you can access recovery.
Option 2 is to put the correct firmware on your SD using a PC, reinsert and let your phone update.
Sent from my HTC Pyramid using xda premium
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I don't think any rom is installed. It never got that far.
I first tried to update using this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542192
However the update failed. After that the phone was just going into a reboot loop when I tried to start it up. I then tried to flash a new rom in the hopes it would fix whatever problem the first failure caused. I was following this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849
I was able to update the firmware from the linked page on that guide:
Firmware from 3.32.401.x & 3.32.401.10x RUU
I then tried to flash the Android Revolution HD 6.5.2 rom. It failed and when i tried to reboot it just hangs as described above. I tried to use superwipe and it also fails. I am sure at this point it is obvious I am lost.
Option 1 is not an option as I don't have a backup.
Option 2 may be an option, but I apparently don't know what the correct firmware is.....
Thanks again for the help.
I went back into fastboot and then recovery and tried to use superwipe, but that failed.
Option 1 is a no go because I do not have a backup.

Use this firmware instead.. it's worked well for me no matter which ICS rom I've installed..
Firmware from 3.24.401.1 & 3.25.401.101 RUU from http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1412618
Don't get it confused with the one you've already tried. Then after you flash that version of the firmware, remove it from sdcard and flash a rom. It's worked for me as it should for you as well.. Hope this helped.. I'm also assuming that you've Super CID your device....
if this helped, slap the thanks button... thanks

Quakeworld said:
Use this firmware instead.. it's worked well for me no matter which ICS rom I've installed..
Firmware from 3.24.401.1 & 3.25.401.101 RUU from http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1412618
Don't get it confused with the one you've already tried. Then after you flash that version of the firmware, remove it from sdcard and flash a rom. It's worked for me as it should for you as well.. Hope this helped.. I'm also assuming that you've Super CID your device....
if this helped, slap the thanks button... thanks
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Thanks. I will give it a try and report back.

bigheed said:
I don't think any rom is installed. It never got that far.
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So still on stock rom, ie Gingerbread, since 2x flashes have failed?
If so, 3.12 is the correct firmware to get it to boot.
Sent from my HTC Pyramid using xda premium

stringer7 said:
So still on stock rom, ie Gingerbread, since 2x flashes have failed?
If so, 3.12 is the correct firmware to get it to boot.
Sent from my HTC Pyramid using xda premium
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I was not able to boot normally after installing this firmware, but it did allow me to complete the superwipe. That was failing beforehand. Once I was able to wipe the phone I was then able to install a rom. The phone is back up and running now. Thanks again for the help. I appreciate you guys taking the time.

bigheed said:
Hello,
I am having some trouble with my T-mobile Sensation 4G. I was trying to install a Rom and seemed to have failed. At this point it will not boot past the first white screen with the green HTC logo.
I can get it into fastboot and Clorkwork mod recovery. However, I am not really sure what to do.
I have tried superwipe and it fails. Bootloader screen is as follows:
-Revolutionary
Pyramid PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT- 1.27.1100
RADIO- 11.22.3504.07_M
OPENADSP-V02.6.0.2226.00.0131
EMMC-BOOT
JAN 13 2012, 17:33:34
If I need to provide more information just let me know. Any help to get it back up and running would be great. I really appreciate your time and help.
Thank you in advance.
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mine is not coming on at all..

[Q] HTC Desire S Bricked? Help.

I have a Desire S which I was trying to return to stock. To do this I flashed the HBoot and then ran the following RUU:
Code:
RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.28.401.1_Radio_20.28b.30.0805U_38.03.02.11_M_release_177977_signed
This was successful. In the stock HTC ROM I downloaded all the updates all the way to the latest 2.3.5 with updated Sense.
It now no longer boots. Upon booting it gets stuck at the HTC logo (white background).
Recovery (CWM) is now gone. But I can boot into the bootloader. It is now S-ON.
Code:
SAGA PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-0.98.0002
RADIO-3822.10.08.04_M
eMMC-boot
Mar 30 2011,17:29:31
Thank you in advance!

If you can get into HBoot, enter that and run the RUU again. Chances are the ROM partition got corrupted and a simple reflash will fix it.
After initial boot, reflash CWM since the RUU returns everything to stock.

cmonthegas said:
If you can get into HBoot, enter that and run the RUU again. Chances are the ROM partition got corrupted and a simple reflash will fix it.
After initial boot, reflash CWM since the RUU returns everything to stock.
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When flashing the RUU I get ERROR[140]: BOOTLOADER VERSION ERROR

abano2 said:
When flashing the RUU I get ERROR[140]: BOOTLOADER VERSION ERROR
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Managed to sort all this out! I ended up using the new ICS RUU (as it has a higher version number).
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30808394

HELP! Nothing works when installing rom!

I followed the instructions to the letter for Maximus 10.0 ROM. My bootloader shows:
TAMPERED
UNLOCKED
VLE PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
CID-T-MOB010
HBOOT-2.16.0000
RADIO-1.20.50.06.16
OpenDSP-v33.1.0.45.1128
eMMC-boot
I even tried going back to stock with relocking and flashing 3 of the TMOUS RUUs with no luck.
Each time the phone boots it loops or gets stuck on a splash screen. Oddly, even after I try to return to stock I get the splash screen from the Maximus 10.0 rom.
Is there a way to completely ERASE everything on this phone and start from scratch using fastboot and adb?

You can wipe everything from recovery, firmware installation also wipes everything.
If you want more help please try to be more specific. For example what happened with maximus or RUUs? Did you get any errors or bootloops? Do you still want to install maximus or want to turn back to stock? etc.
Sent from my HTC One S

ka_55 said:
You can wipe everything from recovery, firmware installation also wipes everything.
If you want more help please try to be more specific. For example what happened with maximus or RUUs? Did you get any errors or bootloops? Do you still want to install maximus or want to turn back to stock? etc.
Sent from my HTC One S
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Maximus loads up to a black screen with just the time, battery, and signal icons, then eventually goes into a bootloop. The RUUs did the same thing. Blows me away what is going on now.
I would like ANY rom to work.
My CID is TOM010 or whatever the TMOUS is. Does that matter?

Even tried to install an older unknown jb rom and it still boot loops!!!
there must be a way to make this device complete NEW STOCK!!!!! my god!

f10a said:
Even tried to install an older unknown jb rom and it still boot loops!!!
there must be a way to make this device complete NEW STOCK!!!!! my god!
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First of all did u try flashing the boot.img that is in the Rom zip file??
If yes did u try superCid or s-off ????

f10a said:
Maximus loads up to a black screen with just the time, battery, and signal icons, then eventually goes into a bootloop. The RUUs did the same thing. Blows me away what is going on now.
I would like ANY rom to work.
My CID is TOM010 or whatever the TMOUS is. Does that matter?
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I'm in the same boat... maximus messed up my partitions, leaving me with only 48mb of sdcard space... I managed to reclaim that, but now Maximus wont boot EVEN after doing a complete wipe, downgrading to hboot 2.15, and re-installing maximus with his step by step process.
I dunno what to do now

f10a said:
I followed the instructions to the letter for Maximus 10.0 ROM. My bootloader shows:
TAMPERED
UNLOCKED
VLE PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
CID-T-MOB010
HBOOT-2.16.0000
RADIO-1.20.50.06.16
OpenDSP-v33.1.0.45.1128
eMMC-boot
I even tried going back to stock with relocking and flashing 3 of the TMOUS RUUs with no luck.
Each time the phone boots it loops or gets stuck on a splash screen. Oddly, even after I try to return to stock I get the splash screen from the Maximus 10.0 rom.
Is there a way to completely ERASE everything on this phone and start from scratch using fastboot and adb?
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I JUST did this... I RELOCKED, went back to S-ON, and put my CID back to T-MOB010, and then RUU'd my device. Now I'm able to USE my phone. The only problem at the moment is that my radio doesn't work. I'm gonna see how to fix that and follow up with that later.
Hope that helps.
EDIT: Radio works, it just needed to be manually connected to my network

After S-ON system won't boot to OS. Please Help!

Hi guys
I've looked everywhere for a solution. Maybe someone know another post that I might've missed.
My phone won't start, it keeps rebooting to the white HTC screen.
Right, now to the problem. Before this problem I had a custom ROM installed (Carbon 4.3) which was getting a few errors so I decided to restore it with clockworkmod from a previous backup. Now what this did is turned the device to ****Locked**** and S-ON .
So what I did next is use HTCDEV to unlock it. Well that bit worked but it's still S-ON.
Now it shows
------------------------------------------------
*** UNLOCKED ***
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.29.0000
RADIO-11.24A.3504.31M
OpenADSP-v05.6.0.2226.00.0418
eMMC-boot
Mar 2 2012, 18:14:34
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I can still go in to Recovery and use the 4EXT recovery Touch (v1.0.0.4 RC3) and i managed to wipe everything including the SD as I already backed it up. After I installed a custom ROM (Blitz 4.0). Everything went well, finished installing successfully. After a reboot the phone won't start to the OS. It keeps looping to the White HTC screen (without even vibrating every time it reboots). So I can install any ROM but can't boot into it.
I even re-partitioned my SD thinking that the mSD was the issue but no luck.
Any particular advice how can I fix this?
Many thanks!

Go to recovery---> tools--->enable smart flash
And flash Rom it will work
OR
flash boot from Rom by fastboot command
fastboot flash boot boot.img
For kitkat Rom update 4ext recovery to latest o think its rc 6

Itsakash said:
Go to recovery---> tools--->enable smart flash
And flash Rom it will work
OR
flash boot from Rom by fastboot command
fastboot flash boot boot.img
For kitkat Rom update 4ext recovery to latest o think its rc 6
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Hi and thanks for quick reply.
I've tried the first method (but no luck)
Although second one worked like a charm! :good: Thanks for that. Now my next question is: If I want to install another ROM will it make the same problem? If yes then how do I get the from S-ON to S-OFF? Will the Revolutionary Utility help ,me or mess it up?
Thanks again. :good:

mikutzu said:
Hi and thanks for quick reply.
I've tried the first method (but no luck)
Although second one worked like a charm! :good: Thanks for that. Now my next question is: If I want to install another ROM will it make the same problem? If yes then how do I get the from S-ON to S-OFF? Will the Revolutionary Utility help ,me or mess it up?
Thanks again. :good:
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just to know enable smartflash exactly before flashing the rom
and yes you will have to do the same if smartflash fail again
if you want to S-OFF you have to flash stock rom first
then follow this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614617

rzr86 said:
just to know enable smartflash exactly before flashing the rom
and yes you will have to do the same if smartflash fail again
if you want to S-OFF you have to flash stock rom first
then follow this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614617
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Thanks rzr86. Will think about it before I'll S-OFF. I'm happy that I got it working again. Plus I don't use it anymore. It's my wife's phone now. Just wanted to flash a new ROM and pass it on to her and that poo happened. :cyclops: Now it's back to life.
( Thanks again "Itsakash")