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I wanted to break this off since the other topic was looking to be mostly about the LCD's
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I wanted to see if the blank sockets on the system board were active. So I grabbed my multimeter and tested each pin to see if any delivered power. I don't know if these sockets are controlled by software, but it looks like these sockets are inactive.
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I'm an electronics tech (avionics really) just so you know my background, and I am by no way a programmer i just hack my way throught when i need... poorly at that. I'm a long time reader but don't post much.
I havent taken mine apart yet, I bought it for the wife to use as an ereader she was using her evo before and already has bad eyesight I just dont think reading on that small screen is good for her. However we planned on returning it today because she couldn't get anything to work... But i loaded VAGAn-Tab rom on it and she likes it ALOT more now, but we still might be returning it (she thinks it to big and heavy to hold). So all I have to work with is the internal pics posted by other members and I thank you for them!
I was thinking about using a mini pci card with 3g/4g and GPS to solve my problem like this one for Sprint Customers looks very nice and they claim android support. Could someone please verify the length available for the card from the socket to the mounting holes? It should be around 50mm but i cant tell from the pic.
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Then after more research I figured out that think I can get the GPS to work on the board. I found that the RXM-GPS-SG-T looks to be the exact chip they are using, the pin look to match exactly VCC, GND, RX, TX, RF, VOUT. So they are using an active GPS antenna (but could be modded for passive). They use NMEA-0183 or SiRF Binary output selected by a serial command. So we need to figure out if the TX is going to U39 making U39 the interface to the unit, or directly to somewhere else (idk need to see board) I hope i can attach my pic i made or maybe an admin can post it for me.
However the PCI slot might be just as hard to use, the pin 20 that has 3.3v isnt what we want, but it could be a software control to disable/enable the card. However we still need A+ on pins 2,52 (3.3V), 6,28,48(1.5V) and maybe 24(3.3V Aux) dependeding on the card. We could be dealing with a "Non Standard" connector, they are out there but most OEM's dont bother with them. More likely to find them on a Asus product ect. It's common for the SIM card to be powered by the PCI card itself and the board looks wired that way. I have 2 Digi International Mini PCI express Wifi/Cell Development boards and thats how they both power the SIM card. Pin 16 should goto Pin 1 on the sim card, 14->2, 12->3, 10->6 but maybe 7 or 8.
Getting the Power to it could be software or hardware. Looks like around U8 on the frontside could a Vreg setup, Or it could be as simple as putting in some 0 ohm resistors around R15 and R14. We also see that U7 is unpopulated on backside. So that leave us with U7,U8, R15, and R16 which could mean they are all part of the same circuit if they laid it out with any logic. TP1,2,and 3 also make me believe this is true, however they match up to LED_WPAN#, LED, WLAN#,and LED_WWAN#. I sure wish they match the power input pins, but that means all those missing resistors could just be for unpopulated status LED's. Like I've said over and over i cant tell ya unless i can probe around the board.
As far as the memory, yes its possible, I do BGA replacement at work. What I am afraid of is that the other memory chips look to be exactly on the other side and I'd be afraid of messing them up. I'd have to look at my jig at work and see if I could set it up without any problems.
I'm no electronics expert but I dabble. I'd be interested in internal GPS and a memory boost. I'm pretty confident in my soldering skills and would try something if directed by someone smarter than me.
This is something I am very interested in. Any new info on this?
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This is something I am very interested in. Any new info on this?
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I sadly no longer own a G tablet, wife thought it was to heavy to read books, and hated the screen. I cant argue with her on either of those points, so we returned it. However I got the ok to buy a referb on if i can find one, but when I did at my local store i showed them the paper and they told me they dont sell that stuff there and send me away. I talked to 3 different people too basically all told me to go f off. I even tried another time with the 7" they sell same results. I dont know why it gets listed on the website if they wont sell it.
Not to get sidetracked, but i even did by the proper bga fittings to solder the ram chips too lol..
So no its probably not going to go any farther from my stand point, if anyone wants my help I still read the forums everyday.
I'm just gonna wait and see what comes out in the future that XDA gets behind, because I'de never buy anything that didnt have an active community here.
IF you were looking for a reader fo rher mainly, you should've really gone with the Nook Color... eInk devices are good too IF you don't really need good PDF support and/or need it to read more complexly formatted documents, e.g. technical manual, mathematics texts, etc. i.e. eInk is best suited for ficiton and other simply formatted documents, but it VERY readable except in poorly lit conditions where you'd need external lighting of some sort.
Very true I should have bought her a nook, but now she doesnt want it because its not powerful enough for her needs imo. She also wants to login to her school (blackboard) and be able to use overdrive. Plus she likes dungeon defenders and I dont think that can handle it. We are just gonna wait it out and see what comes along, mostly cause we have our first due next month, so trying to be frugal.
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Very true I should have bought her a nook, but now she doesnt want it because its not powerful enough for her needs imo. She also wants to login to her school (blackboard) and be able to use overdrive. Plus she likes dungeon defenders and I dont think that can handle it. We are just gonna wait it out and see what comes along, mostly cause we have our first due next month, so trying to be frugal.
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Yep, you'll want a full blown tablet then and I suspect that the NC would be too much of a bother to get setup for her for what she wants it for...
All the 10" tablets are fairly heavy too, so you'll probably have to stick to looking for 7/8" tablets and I suspect Tegra 2 or multi-core cortex-a9 SoCs from other mfgs... not much in the way of 7" ATM other than the elocity a7 (was c. $300 around xmas), but it's not very hacker friendly and I don't know if they ever got the USB port to run in non-host mode... probably best to not even look at it...
The g Tablet would, as many have already said, be a great tablet if it had gps mainly and increased memory. Adding pci-e would be even better. I would be extremely happy with the addition of gps. I would be very tempted to allow somebody with expertise and high level of confidence of success to experiment on my tablet.
GPS+
Just bought my Gtab yesterday. As you know the stock Roman/UI sucks big time. I installed Clockwork followed by CyanogenMod 7 and what a difference. Anyway I looked on the web for a dock and it seems there is a Chinese version of the Gtab that has higher spec's including GPS. It would seem logical to assume the U.S. motherboard has the same circuits built in. Who knows what's possible....
It's too bad that more people don't feel like tearing up their electronics to start soldering things to them.
Hi,
After some research I decided to buy gtablet. It will be my first android so I don't know much about it. (I'm aware that I need to learn about rooting etc after purchasing)
In about an hour, I will be buying one and I'm several thousands away from home so I have to check it well before buying.
What should I check other than the obvious tests ?
Is there any software that checks internal components ?
Or any program suggestions to run ? (For example if skype is installed I can test wi-fi, speakers and microphone at the same time).
thanks alot.
best.
honestly...i was about to buy a used one too last week...and then the price of a new one just keeps dropping and making it not worth it to buy it used...unless you are getting some kind of amazing deal. (like less than 200 dollars)
woot just had it for 255.. tigerdirect had them for 260 recently... i think the peace of mind is worth it for the extra 50 bucks...but i dont know your income ..
I second that. If its under 200 or comes with sweet accessories buy used. If not, save and buy new.
Make sure it has had a screen protector on the the whole time and that the power plug and audio plug work. Biggest issues so far have been broken power ports and headphone jacks.
As far as rooting goes, you don't really need to. All the roms here are stock rooted and if you follow the update.zip method of installing a rom or clockwork mod from stock you will be fine. Oh, and make sure you check what bootloader you are on before flashing a rom. Just read and read some more, tons of us are here to help when you got questions
Thanks for the replies, I agree your comments.
In my case the machine was not used and with a warranty so I purchased it.
I destroyed my Acer tablet that I enjoyed very much. The extended warranty company said they will just give me my money back as that is cheaper than repairing it.
Do you guys recommend the Zoom? Any common issues to be concerned about? Does it have a standard USB port?
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I destroyed my Acer tablet that I enjoyed very much. The extended warranty company said they will just give me my money back as that is cheaper than repairing it.
Do you guys recommend the Zoom? Any common issues to be concerned about? Does it have a standard USB port?
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no it doesnt have a standard usb port like the a500 does, but if you buy a usb otg cable for about $4 the custom rom already have host support so it doesnt quite matter about a full sized standard usb port except maybe the voltage but people here still can use usb drives well anyway. I bought an a500 and it was the biggest piece of poop; hated it.. refunded it and bought another xoom. The manner in which the bootloader is used is awesome if anything buggers out you can manually push files with fastboot which rocks and helps minimize the chances of a bricked device. The ability to unlock said bootloader is quick and painless and this time round i was on a custom rom with the second verizon 3g xoom in about half hour. I know there is debate on people waiting for a prime, or a new model but seriously we will receive ICS and the original xoom is now nice and cheap =].. again though, it is your money and you can do as you please but i am a happy customer and the proud owner of 2 xooms, a wifi only and a 3g+wifi
yep love the xoom but saying that its my first tab so I don't have anything else to compare it too in terms of real use age
However in terms of spec and hardware it is a very capable device, it has USB host mode, up to 96gb memory with a 64gb card, good cpu/gpu combo, good speakers, good cameras, HDMI, decent screen size and OK screen (I am used to amoled) ,decent GPS etc etc
For the money the xoom goes for and the support from this community and hardware/spec you get you can really go wrong
I got mine about two weeks ago and have been enjoying it loads
If you get a good price you can't go wrong
Thanks guys, the only issue I ever had with the A500 is the microphone sucked. Spec wise the zoom and acer are the same except for the USB thing. The zoom has more storage too.
Does the mic work well on the zoom? I used my tablet every day at University and need that part to work for note taking
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Thanks guys, the only issue I ever had with the A500 is the microphone sucked. Spec wise the zoom and acer are the same except for the USB thing. The zoom has more storage too.
Does the mic work well on the zoom? I used my tablet every day at University and need that part to work for note taking
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The mic works very well in my experience. I'm having fun with voice action apps (Iris, Jeannie) and it works better than I had expected.
[just a thought] if the device headphone port can also act as a microphone you can always buy a micro nub microphone from ebay to try and boost volume capture rather than relying on microphone inside the device.. i was gonna grab one for my phone, but most of my lectures weren't assessable ie it was more the skills (as i do forensics) rather than spit out what they said to us
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[just a thought] if the device headphone port can also act as a microphone you can always buy a micro nub microphone from ebay to try and boost volume capture rather than relying on microphone inside the device.. i was gonna grab one for my phone, but most of my lectures weren't assessable ie it was more the skills (as i do forensics) rather than spit out what they said to us
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I don't see why the nub mic wouldn't work. I was thinking of getting one myself.
with the zoom, is HC 3.2 rootable?
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with the zoom, is HC 3.2 rootable?
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Uh, yeah, definately. Use this guide if you like: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249798
Please note that if you flash the Tiamat Moray 2.2.2 ROM, you can skip step 5 (Rooting) because Moray is pre-rooted, but also remember that when you unlock, your device will be wiped, so back-up everything you can 1st.
Good luck!
Hi pretty new here still, and already getting a new phone lol.
Quick Version
-Medium or + Cpu/Gfx performance
- affordable/cost effective (prefer $400 or -)
- Highly compatible with many ROMs, Recoveries, Easily unlocked either OEM allowed or well documented solid exploit, any other custom firmware capable etc.
- Prefer slots for SD card and/or Sim card work well, aren't jenky, if known. Decent Space if possible ~32GB+,
- True Airplane mode / Built in firewall? minimal concern but still nice
- Screen size, not a huge requirement, actually don't want something too large
- USB-C preference, very low on priority though
- "Tough firmware"? hard to perma-brick or has a good last resort that usually works, i.e. EDL cable or something
Original Post /Brainstorm below with more details
Little background, for the longest time I survived on an iphone 4s for various anti-social reasons
recently thats changed and been getting into phones more
Unfortunately I got suckered into a V500KL ZenFone 5 Live, a feature starved, bland, boot-loader locked, boring pos
well while trying to spruce it up i hard bricked it, and well, I brought it back
but in my frustration I destroyed something in the sim port while doing desperate last attempts before figuring out the correct UN-brick method.
(which Ive documented in my first post, its over in the zenfone 5 forum , check it out
oh and i promise the un-brick method didn't do it, shoving tweezers in a dead phone to see what i could reach, because phones been dead for days and YOLO was the cause of sim death lol.
so now i have a phone that can't be a phone... time for a new phone ya?
I wanna do it right and get opinions from pros and community opinions, so that would be here right?
So what am i looking for? decent performance, the V500KL was 2nd from the bottom pretty much for the ZenFone line i think.
I don't required the best for CPU/GFX performance, but definitely not bottom group tier.
With that said, affordable, no $1k phones please lol, maybe in the ballpark of.... $400 tops? the bigger bang but for less buck the better
I also want it to be a very compatible phone, i made the switch from my iPhone brand to android because they had a reputation, or used to, of being super customizable, rooting/jailbreaking was a non-issue etc.
Well i was shocked to find out that my V500KL had a locked bootloader with no OEM permission to unlock for that specific model.... i blame Verizon.
SO I want a phone that's unlock-able out of the box without having to do my own R&D on it, whether its OEM or a known solid exploit that's not going away either way works.
Also compatible with as many custom ROMs as possible, was very sad that CWM and TWRP were not compatible with my last phone and could never get magisk due to the boot loader.
- space, looking for 32GB give or take, with EASILY removable SD card expanded storage, not one that feels like its a d20 roll if its going to break every time
I suppose if i had to choose between the 2 it would be a smooth SD card slot though since I could always just get more SD lol, and this isn't something you can easily tell from a product sheet/page so input on this greatly appreciated .
- also extra plus if it has a easily removable sim card slot as well, or has a confirmed TRUE airplane mode.
(Verizon/Asus phones will still download FOTA/OTA updates even with wifi off and airplane mode on, mobile data off, etc.)
- Not really a screen size buff, so average size works i suppose, not against something a bit larger, but id rather it fit in something smaller than my cargo pockets
- Being USB-C would be nice, I've recently made a USB-C EDL cable so if it just so happens to be compatible or easily reconfigured for something/anything the phone may need one for could come in handy, fine with others though, more easy to get a charger from a friend, pros and cons i suppose.
- Tough to perma-brick, i abused the crap out of the software on my V500KL and never perma-bricked it, came close though, and its still not even bricked, i just fryed the sim card port... but its not bricked. Something hard to perma-brick would be nice, if it soft-bricks thats fine, and if hard-bricks are recoverable with an EDL cable thats a plus. Something thats just... perma-bricked prone somehow though, would make me nervous.
well that's all i can really think of....
if there's any key detail that needs to be added ill be happy to add, and if anyone else has a similar list feel free to thread hijack lol I'm just reaching for whats out there and really anything with some hands-on-experince information is appreciated. im in no rush and just wanna know whats good out there .
Hello i have a infiray px1 thermal smartphone that is not play protect certified and it is on gpogles lisyt of certifief devices any idea how i can get the device google certified or even a way i can get google apps on my phone? Ive tried downloading apks and some worked, my bigges problem is i would like to be able to update my phone from my google account. It runs android 11 and says operating system is x os 5. I bought brand new from aliexpress and i live in canada any help wpuld be hugely apreciated thx
Return phone and request refund: you got cheated!
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Return phone and request refund: you got cheated!
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What do you mean by cheated? Like scammed, or they sent with wrong software by accident? Like could the reason for this be becuase google products are banned in China? confused cuase i got it off aliexpress for a 1000$ the return request has been approved and free shipping back, but ive never really bought anything off ali express, would they honor the return do you know? I was hoping this would be an easy software fix but it's not looking to be that way, i don't want to lose the device as well. Thx for the help
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What do you mean by cheated? Like scammed, or they sent with wrong software by accident? Like could the reason for this be becuase google products are banned in China? confused cuase i got it off aliexpress for a 1000$ the return request has been approved and free shipping back, but ive never really bought anything off ali express, would they honor the return do you know? I was hoping this would be an easy software fix but it's not looking to be that way, i don't want to lose the device as well. Thx for the help
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There was no accident. They sold you that phone knowing that it did not had that certification. And don't buy phones from China. They can't use Google play services there and have to rely on shady means of getting them on their smartphones.
Ok so just an update got into huge fight with gf, yesterday and well say phone is just out of the reach of return quality and im kindof stuck with it.( couple scratches on body, couldve been much worse lol) any and all suggestions on ehat to do about getting my google account stuff set up is and would be apreciated ( different rom, google apks, rooting device, different operating system, sending a photo of my ass and the middle finger to chinas president yi or whatever that that butt hurt ****ers name is. So i look at this as a learning opertunity and will not take nothing can be done as an anwser there has got to be something and im very dedicated to fingure this out, its a great phone crappy software. Thermal imager and night vision work amazing far better then my ulefone armour 11 t
GitHub - androidtrackers/certified-android-devices: Google Play Certified Android devices list, auto updated daily!
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it shows as CERTIFIED on the list ?
try a factory reset ?
i may pick up a few of these PX1's as i really like the thermal image quality . ( bar none - best quality to date )
if a hard reset doesn't work., EMAIL AGM, and ask for FIRMWARE , so you can re-flash this device. (or root it?)
please keep us updated, if you find a fix for this ??
note: i have used a BV9900 pro for almost 2 years now, and i am not sure i can go back to a non-thermal device. It is useful in more ways then i could have ever imagined. ( even the wife likes the thermal imaging )
great example: get a text message from wife, the furnace stopped working, and the house is starting to freeze. i reply - take a thermal image of the furnace and see whats not right? reply - she texts me back and says the blower/motor part is super hot but no where else. reply- motor seized? reply - yes. ( this single use , saved me much time by knowing what was wrong.)
so , i am asking for help from XDA on this device.
i got a PX1 infiray - phone
wife got AGM G1s - phone.
these two devices are almost the same.
INFIRAY PX1 = android 11 firmware, no laser pointer, 256GB internal , 8GB ram
256x192 thermal (25hz), 6.53 screen, IR night vision, 48MP sony, 2MP MACRO, 20MP low-illumination , SNAPDRAGON 5G 480(8mm) [email protected] + [email protected]
GPU: Qualcomm® Adreno™ 619
3.5mm headphone jack , USB-C 3.0 , 5500MAH battery , QCS3.0 fast charge ,
bluetooth 5.0 , 60HZ screen refresh.
AGM G1S =
android 12 firmware, laser pointer, 128GB internal , 8GB ram
256x192 thermal (25hz), 6.53 screen, IR night vision, 48MP sony, 2MP MACRO, 20MP low-illumination , SNAPDRAGON 5G 480(8mm) [email protected] + [email protected]
GPU: Qualcomm® Adreno™ 619
3.5mm headphone jack , USB-C 3.0 , 5500MAH battery , QCS3.0 fast charge ,
bluetooth 5.0 , 60HZ screen refresh.
weird fact - the G1s laser pointer APPEARS to still have its distance photo eye , but is missing from the rom (AGM removed?)
seeing as how these TWO phones are almost the same, would anyone think flashing the AGM onto the INFIRAY hurt anything?
another fun fact - i extracted the INFIRAY PX1 thermal camera app, and it works perfect on the G1S (has many more options)
seeing as how these TWO phones are almost the same, would anyone think flashing the AGM onto the INFIRAY hurt anything?
stock rom is listed as
RKQ1.210614.002 release-keys
which seems like its common name .
i switched from a BLACKVIEW BV9900 pro , and i did enjoy that device, its screen size was hard for my hands.
BLACKVIEW seems to make good devices, but fail at software.
after rooting the BV9900 pro's, i was able to fix little things , the company did not. blackviews customer service is a waiting game, and fellow users are the ones who helped the most. rolled that phone back to android 9 and it worked near perfect. (android 10 + 11 are available for those inclined)
switching to AGM devices is a learning curve, and i understand that.
i will add one thing that no review covers anywhere on the internet.
the G1S & PX1 phones are wonderful devices to hold/operate.
everyone has a prefrence for size, and feel of a phone, but these specfic devices have garnered feelings of comfort from everyone who has tried them around me. a few wish for larger screens, but even that, they still think its design is solid. (this may be due to the corner grips?)
Return the phone.
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may i ask why? ( the PX1 is google certified. look up the list )
just reflash it with AGM G1S firmware. ( its android 12 - vers stock 11, and is the EXACT same device. )
use Qualcomm_Flash_Image_Loader_v2.0.3.5 to flash it.
AIDA64 for Android v1.90 Report shows these are the SAME device.
how can we get a dedicated thread for these devices.
i plan to root mine, and would like to share the outcome.