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Can anyone tell me if this is common or just me? I have to restart to be able to use it. Is it the resolution?
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works just fine for me, offline maps and all
works fine on mine too (I'm on .26 WW, it also worked on .22)
on which version are you?
have you tried to delete the app cache?
have you installed the latest update for maps (01.08.2012)?
I also noticed that Gmaps always crashes when I hold the tablet in portrait mode. No problem in landscape.
Hi, I was having problems the last few times I used it, did the cache increase sizes and all, with no luck. What I tried right now, * appears * to be working and have fixed the problems. (Disclaimer, I haven't spent that much time with it, so not sure if it's fixed or what - but from my previous experience, it seems like it worked.)
I did a "cold boot" on the device that I read on other forums. TF 700 Forums
You will NOT lose any data! This is not a hard reset. It takes a few seconds longer to reboot (just this one time) with some diagnostics/debug tools on screen. But since then, it has soo far helped Google Earth. (I know your questions was related to maps specifically, but this could be the same thing.)
Hope this helps!
DTB
Interestingly it does the same on my TF300T too. Works like a charm on my Galaxy Note though.
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Cold Boot worked to fix Gmail and Maps on my TF101 Transformer
DonToolBag said:
What I tried right now, * appears * to be working and have fixed the problems. (Disclaimer, I haven't spent that much time with it, so not sure if it's fixed or what - but from my previous experience, it seems like it worked.)
I did a "cold boot" on the device that I read on other forums. [Sorry, can't post direct link to TF 700 Forums at transformerforums, "Various quick fixes links and help" thread.]
You will NOT lose any data! This is not a hard reset.
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Thank you! This worked to fix my Google Maps and Gmail crashes on my TF101 Transformer!
One issue I had with it was fixed by clearing the offline maps in the app settings
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I suspect that most of the google maps crashes are caused by the nvidia GL driver physical memory allocation bug. You can be pretty sure this is the cause if google maps crashes every time you start it but rebooting solves it for a while. Or you can check dmesg in a terminal for the kernel error message I talked about here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30737043
Note you would need to run dmesg fairly quickly after maps crashes since the kernel logs are polluted with debugging messages which ASUS seems to have rather sloppily left in the kernel.
--Brad
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Me too....
I have had exactly the same problem, but also with GMail. Both Maps and Gmail both crash and stop working. No message or error message. Happens so frequently, it makes the apps unusable. I have found small relief if I try to purge the memory of the tablet prior to using the app, but that is a terrible state of affairs if this great tablet has so much trouble working the most fundamental of apps....
Very frustrating ... I came from having the Acer A500, and never had an ounce of trouble...
peare said:
Can anyone tell me if this is common or just me? I have to restart to be able to use it. Is it the resolution?
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I cold boot quite a bit...that's just me tho.
I pretty much see no bugs with anything.
Believe me I look for stuff that ain't working on my tab.
I learned to check everything after dealing with Windows for so many years.
...logcats are our friends!
I cold boot quite a lot too but I'm seeing constant Gmail crashes. I've also cleared its cache and data and limited background processes to 4, all to no avail. I had seen map issues too but the cold boots seem to have cleared that up. But not so with Gmail.
Dave
sparksd said:
I cold boot quite a lot too but I'm seeing constant Gmail crashes. I've also cleared its cache and data and limited background processes to 4, all to no avail. I had seen map issues too but the cold boots seem to have cleared that up. But not so with Gmail.
Dave
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Hmm...
Weird about the G-mail crashes.
G-mail works very well for me.
What about the regular mail client app?
Maybe fixed??
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Can anyone tell me if this is common or just me? I have to restart to be able to use it. Is it the resolution?
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I am hoping that I am not speaking too soon, but the problem of crashing apps on my Infinity seems to have stopped. This is a weirdsituation as the only apps that seemed to have problems are the ones from Google. Google Maps, GMail etc. What I did was cleared the cache in Google Maps and also downloaded an app FMR Memory Cleaner. Now I am not sure which item did the trick, but I haven't had a crash for about 3 days now and that is a big improvement. I hope others might find similar success.
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Hmm...
Weird about the G-mail crashes.
G-mail works very well for me.
What about the regular mail client app?
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No crashes but I'm seeing issues withmy POP email account - the "12/31/1969" timestamp problem wherein some email show that timestamp and the email is empty. I can see the email on my PC but it is screwed up on the Android side.
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I suspect that most of the google maps crashes are caused by the nvidia GL driver physical memory allocation bug. You can be pretty sure this is the cause if google maps crashes every time you start it but rebooting solves it for a while.
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This is the correct answer.
It is in fact the correct answer to a great many problems/questions on the ICS TFs. This is the problem with nearly every Google app. This is the reason games "designed for Tegra 3" crash consistently on the flagship Tegra 3 tablet. This has probably generated a significant number of RMAs. etc, etc. If this bug had never existed, probably a fourth to a third of the problem threads on the XDA TF Forums and other related boards would not exist.
Some people will claim they don't "have" it or that they have "fixed" it by some hokey method, but this is untrue because it's a driver and memory issue that exists at the kernel level and exists on every TF running the ASUS stock kernel.
The reason people think they can fix it (or think they may not have the problem) is because:
They can work around it
When and how it manifests is highly random and configuration dependent.
I.e. When and how often it manifests depends heavily on the memory state of the system at any given point in time, which in turn depends on a lot of stuff.
So, for example, if you have a bunch of apps/services installed (and virtually everyone's setup is different in this regard, even your own setup will vary over time) it makes a huge difference in how often and when you are going to see it. It's kind of like playing Russian Roulette except it is a giant revolver with 10000 chambers and there can be anywhere from 1 to 10000 bullets chambered every time you pull the trigger (run an app, install a new app, start a new service, etc).
So there are no fixes at the user level (aside from unlocking and installing a custom kernel): ASUS is the only one who can truly fix it for a stock TF.
So, for us, there are only workarounds. After owning five TF devices all of which have regularly been affected by this bug, here is how I deal with it:
On first crash: Run FMR Memory Cleaner, rerun crashed app, this will often "fix" it for a long period if I have not got a lot of stuff installed.
If app crashes after FMR, rerun FMR again. This sounds crazy but if you rerun FMR two times in succession it will usually allocate so much RAM it will force the launcher to reload. NOTE: IT WILL LOOK LIKE THE LAUNCHER HAS CRASHED, IT HASN'T. Wait like 30seconds to a minute for it to restart. Now rerun your app. This seems to give me a new lease on life for 90%+ of the crashes.
However, if your app crashes AGAIN. You guessed it: Cold Boot. Silently curse ASUS and NVIDIA as the machine reboots if it makes you feel better.
NVIDIA discovered acknowledged and FIXED the bug earlier this year. ASUS has either through ignorance, laziness, or malice not incorporated that fix into any of their code prior to the JB kernel for the Nexus 7 and the TF300 (which they probably picked up by osmosis for the 3.x kernel source). IMHO, given the prevalence and impact of this issue, this is evidence that whoever is directing/driving their FW development and/or applications engineering is criminally incompetent.
We will continue to have these issues until ASUS either: fix ICS (won't happen) or release JB. I consider my device usable because I am aware of the issue and can almost always get it to do what I want without a full reboot. However, I pity the poor confused folks whose config causes them to see this often but do not have any technical understanding of the issue or the workarounds.
Unfortunately, I'm getting Gmail crashes even shortly after doing a cold boot. I tried uninstalling updates this AM but that didn't help. I'll have to try your Step (2) as I got a crash after running FMR Memory Cleaner. I think I already tried that as I did see the Launcher issue you mentioned. Really frustrating as between Gmail and Email, I have different problems. I've been trying K-9 but I don't really care for the interface. Maybe I'll just have to continue using my Xoom for mail (Or my Galaxy S3, truly the most solid Android device I have owned).
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Unfortunately, I'm getting Gmail crashes even shortly after doing a cold boot.
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Like zenaxe explained, the reason for a crash depends on a lot of stuff. This is why so many do not have the same symptoms you seem to be having. It might even be caused by some other app, rather than the Gmail app itself, but on it suffers from the side effects of that "rouge" app.
Step 1 is to eliminate all unnecessary apps from running in the background. You'd be amazed at what gets started when your reboot in completed. The easiest way is to list all tasks using System Tuner's task mananger (enable the System view aswell, no need to enable Kernel). From that list you can probably kill a bunch of apps, but usually the just restart so it's better to uninstall (so they won't start up again), or make sure you disable the Activities/Receivers that make the app (re) start on "its own". Disabling Activities/Receivers could render your app inoperable, so be careful what you disable.
Step 2, uninstalling updates is usually not the solution. Keep it up to date, as that one will have the most "knowledge" stored in it's code. Meaning, if Google found an issue with another app and the Gmail app, they might have worked around it in a newer version.
This is all from my own experience. When I first got the tablet, I went crazy in the play store and downloaded every single app I thought might be of use. After only just 1 week it had weird symptoms and apps would crash a lot. I decided to start over (factory date reset) and take a different approach. I still try out a lot of apps, but I started to use blue stacks to do all the "messy" install/tryout/uninstall, until I decide on the one or two apps to use.
Keep it clean and mean.
Hi guys,
I recently was able to exchange my Prime for the Infinity and for the most part I am extremely happy. The WiFi and GPS are both fantastic and the screen is beautiful!
One thing I've noticed is that when I go back to an app that I was previously using it will reload. When I do this on my Android phone this doesn't happen. For instance, if I watch a video on YouTube and then open Facebook, read an email, send a couple of texts... on my phone when I go back to YouTube it will still be paused right where I left it. On my Infinity it reloads and starts from the beginning commercials and all. The same goes for web pages, games, etc.
I'm just curious to see if other people are experiencing this same issue......
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Hi guys,
I recently was able to exchange my Prime for the Infinity and for the most part I am extremely happy. The WiFi and GPS are both fantastic and the screen is beautiful!
One thing I've noticed is that when I go back to an app that I was previously using it will reload. When I do this on my Android phone this doesn't happen. For instance, if I watch a video on YouTube and then open Facebook, read an email, send a couple of texts... on my phone when I go back to YouTube it will still be paused right where I left it. On my Infinity it reloads and starts from the beginning commercials and all. The same goes for web pages, games, etc.
I'm just curious to see if other people are experiencing this same issue......
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The screen is bigger so it might need more ram to store multitasking apps and push the pixels. I'm no expert though, don't take what I say as truth.
Scotlac said:
Hi guys,
I recently was able to exchange my Prime for the Infinity and for the most part I am extremely happy. The WiFi and GPS are both fantastic and the screen is beautiful!
One thing I've noticed is that when I go back to an app that I was previously using it will reload. When I do this on my Android phone this doesn't happen. For instance, if I watch a video on YouTube and then open Facebook, read an email, send a couple of texts... on my phone when I go back to YouTube it will still be paused right where I left it. On my Infinity it reloads and starts from the beginning commercials and all. The same goes for web pages, games, etc.
I'm just curious to see if other people are experiencing this same issue......
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Hmm - I don't have that issue. It really depends on the way the app is coded, I believe (could be wrong though).
But, using youtube as an example, I started playing a video, paused it, opened up my new email (from the status bar) - read a few emails. Opened my note-taking app, loked around in there, and then switched back to youtube (via the running tasks icon on the status bar) and it was right where I left it.
Also depends on how much memory the apps use - if you are using a super-power-hungry app, it *could* close what's open in the background in order to take more resources for itself.
Last thing - have you made any changes to build.prop settings or Settings->Developer Settings? They could affect the ability to multitask as well...
Hope that helps.
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I just wanted to make a quick video of the speed of the tf700 on JB. I know alot of you are saying that this tablet is buggy/has i/o issues/ lag etc... but honestly i think this thing flies. If your tablet is not performing like how mine does in the video, you might want to either reinstall JB and/or do a COUPLE COLD REBOOTS. Honestly these help out alot for any update.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zviGW1SvIg
Also note the speed with the heavy live wallpaper set to max, no lag what so ever!
[EDIT] Here is another video, i loaded a bunch of apps in the tray and started switching between apps. I have the dock attached, 2 sd cards, live wallpaper on full resolution and battery usage, and google now updating for sports. As you can see its effortless.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKysz_llJKI
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I just wanted to make a quick video of the speed of the tf700 on JB. I know alot of you are saying that this tablet is buggy/has i/o issues/ lag etc... but honestly i think this thing flies. If your tablet is not performing like how mine does in the video, you might want to either reinstall JB and/or do a COUPLE COLD REBOOTS. Honestly these help out alot for any update.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zviGW1SvIg
Also note the speed with the heavy live wallpaper set to max, no lag what so ever!
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Same eperience as mine.
Thanks for posting.
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snipped.......Also note the speed with the heavy live wallpaper set to max, no lag what so ever!
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Mine is fast as well...I did manage to make it slow down.....while running Nova Prime with 7 screens and close to a dozen widgets running...but even with all that running, it would still play a full size AVCHD format .m2ts file in BS Player butter smooth.
I have no "buyers remorse" what so ever. I think Asus put out a rockin' tablet with the 700. In my experience with it so far...what is not to like?
Thanks for the vid,
Brad
You spend most of your time switching between home screens, which is not a big challenge. Instead, try launching and using actuall apps and games, especially when doing a file operation in the background. You'll see the lag that people are talking about.
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You spend most of your time switching between home screens, which is not a big challenge. Instead, try launching and using actuall apps and games, especially when doing a file operation in the background. You'll see the lag that people are talking about.
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Honestly there is no difference. Currently i have the xda app open, along with both stock and firefox browser( firefox is able to play espn videos while the stock is just fast), my google voice and talk are also open ( talking to friend in NY and texting mom), i just opened YouTube to look at the comment left on the video you just viewed and i also have the world of goo going...all with that live wallpaper you see in the video. Honestly i have pushed this tablet to the limits and i still dont see any problem.
If you really want i can make another video showing me opening up every app i have, switch between them and show that there is no slow down?
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Honestly there is no difference. Currently i have the xda app open, along with both stock and firefox browser( firefox is able to play espn videos while the stock is just fast), my google voice and talk are also open ( talking to friend in NY and texting mom), i just opened YouTube to look at the comment left on the video you just viewed and i also have the world of goo going...all with that live wallpaper you see in the video. Honestly i have pushed this tablet to the limits and i still dont see any problem.
If you really want i can make another video showing me opening up every app i have, switch between them and show that there is no slow down?
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As was stated, if you want to prove or disprove IO issue, do run 17 apps, that's mostly memory. Kick off a large download then launch a browser an see how it loads and even after loading how it scrolls and respond to link clicking
While my tab generally performs well I did notice some IO lag come back with the JB update.
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As was stated, if you want to prove or disprove IO issue, do run 17 apps, that's mostly memory. Kick off a large download then launch a browser an see how it loads and even after loading how it scrolls and respond to link clicking
While my tab generally performs well I did notice some IO lag come back with the JB update.
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No problem, give me five minutes and ill put another video in the original post. Ill open all my browers, video players, games, camera and anything else i can find lol
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Great idea. Perhaps ones concerned about performance should do the same and show exactly what they are seeing. Mine is just like yours. I now even run on power save as jb took away the navigation lag during the mode. Chaos rings even runs fine on the power save.
Try actually using the tablet, like using Maps for directions, finding a place, then use the browser for reviews, info, etc and maybe Yelp, Tripadvisor etc for other information. The tablet grinds to a halt once the OS has to start removing cached processes to free up memory, which again triggers a ton of (SQLite) I/O operations which is really bad on the useless NAND that Asus chose for this otherwise great tablet.
On another note, I was typing up this post (well, about the same) earlier and the tablet froze, and rebooted, stuck at the Asus logo. I had to reset it by holding down the power button for 10 seconds. The latest JB update has definately NOT fixed these freezing/rebooting issues.
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Maybe it's because i'm used to Windows XP, but I haven't noticed any lag on mine, even when running Navfree, stockbrowser 3 tabs, where's my perry, Photoshop mobile and mxplayer at the same time.
Does anyone use Kindle? I find it really slow at scrolling and sometimes it got a big white cropped field when trying to scroll down...
Posted new video. I really don't want to make a 20 minute video detailing every single thing i do on the tab. The apps you see loaded are on the lower end (number wise) of apps i usually have loaded at once. This tab has completely replaced my laptop so i am always on it. Basically take what you see in the video, add like 4 more apps and expand the video by an hour or so and this is the SAME performance i get...No slow down or glitches. Infinity FTW!
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I have noticed that the stock browser will load a page faster than before but immediately lags afterwards for a couple seconds, preventing scrolling. My biggest gripe is text entry via dock now. Copy and paste is VERY wonky still. Set default keyboard to android etc..... whatevs....
Thanks. That's more like the experience I was expecting. Mine is worlds apart, with stuttering, lag while switching apps and impossible to use browser. I'd post a recording but I had it sent to the lab a couple days ago. Hoping it comes back like yours.
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You spend most of your time switching between home screens, which is not a big challenge. Instead, try launching and using actuall apps and games, especially when doing a file operation in the background. You'll see the lag that people are talking about.
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Actually I spend most of my time in my e-mail apps answering email or in a word or spreadsheet app typing stuff or digesting LARGE .pdf files. I haven't installed any games yet and probably won't. I game on my PC....(mostly FPS).....now if I could get Tribes Ascend to run on this Infinity gizmo...SHAZBOT!
Any machine can be made to lag, stutter or crash. The TF700 does what I need it to do quite well.....could it be smoother?.....sure...but why, and how much would it cost?
A challenge? Download an 8+ gigabyte multi-volume RAR archive over wi-fi and unpack it. (not only CPU intensive, but the read / write operations are pretty staggering as well) ....
The Infinity did a fine job of it and in short order.
Cheers!
Brad
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Malkaridae said:
Does anyone use Kindle? I find it really slow at scrolling and sometimes it got a big white cropped field when trying to scroll down...
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Kindle works fine here....did they get rid of the page turn animation?
Brad
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I guess no one noticed the tablet locks up for 10 seconds in the video? When the OP taps the URL bar in the browser at ~0:53 the tablet stops responding completely. So you spent a minute and a half swiping between homescreens and tapping the notification tray, but of the 30 seconds you spent doing anything else, the tablet was unresponsive for 10.
That's proof there's no lag, right?
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Kindle works fine here....did they get rid of the page turn animation?
Brad
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Thanks for your response, I assume other file types are fine on kindle. However, normally I use PDF which causes lag during scrolling up and down the pages, and scrolling to next page sometimes freezes up also.
Cheers
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I guess no one noticed the tablet locks up for 10 seconds in the video? When the OP taps the URL bar in the browser at ~0:53 the tablet stops responding completely. So you spent a minute and a half swiping between homescreens and tapping the notification tray, but of the 30 seconds you spent doing anything else, the tablet was unresponsive for 10.
That's proof there's no lag, right?
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Wait what? lol the tablet didnt lock up at all, i was actually deciding what website to go to while at the same time thinking of the next app to load. Also the first time i put my finger to the bar i didnt actually tap the screen. The second time i had to look down a the keyboard while holding the phone to type. The videos is blurry, but the tablet immediately responds to my touch with a prompt to type. No lock ups or slow down
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Like i said before, if you don't have this experience, DO one of the two options: Reinstall jelly bean and/or do multiple cold boots. Its cleans everything up!
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pierrekid said:
Wait what? lol the tablet didnt lock up at all, i was actually deciding what website to go to while at the same time thinking of the next app to load.
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The URL menu dropped down (1:02) when your finger was nowhere near it in response to when you touched it earlier. You also need to change the batteries in your smoke detector.
Not sure if this can be fixed somehow...
When using Google Now, web results (last 3) appear before phone results. When using Swype, it takes nearly most of the screen resulting in not being able to see them without first hitting Back to close the keyboard first.
Anyone find a way to hide the web results?
Only found one Google search result related to this:
http://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/mobile/00RfHS19aKk
Thanks
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I'm updated to 4.2.1 on my N7 (factory, no root/rom) and with books like the Nexus 7 Manual, I've selected the blue pin icon and downloaded the books to the devices memory for offline reading. Or so it seems...
When I go to open the book and resume my reading it takes a good 5-7 seconds for it to open and sits at a 'Loading' screen. Also, if I'm in the book and decide to swipe back a few pages quickly, or forward, I see that loading screen again. Basically it seems like it's not actually downloaded but rather coming through the cloud. I've tried this with a few books and they all appear to be downloaded but open quite slow.
Am I missing something or does it normally take a while to open books as well as browse through them?
Noticing the same thing on my N7. I don't have a big sample, but in my case it's a particularly larger book (ESV Bible). Jumping around or flipping several pages rapidly results in long waits for text to appear. I first thought the downloaded text or some search index was corrupt, so I blew away all app data and tried again. The problem persists.
This could just be a general problem with the tablet. See if anyone else has the same problem or let Google know
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