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Tiered Data for HTC THUNDERBOLT

WOW ZDNET is reporting that Thunderbolt will be first phone with Tiered data PLANS WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is Horrible

This launch is turning into one huge joke. Could they have possibly screwed this up any more?

Proof?
The 4g is tiered for sure so I don't care
The 3g is throttled after 5 gb
So that should be what you expect
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proof? go to zdnet....and i hate when people say PROOF lol
Article is from today!

If its just said on a site then is hear say and there's no proof, is go but I'm on my phone
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no ZDNET which is a reputable site is QUOTING the CFO of Verizon Wireless..... just go to the site. Ofcourse nothing is 100% but the way its stated its all but certain!
Its not 100% that i will ever be ble to take a Sh&t again but odds are I will ... lolol

Makes sense if its only 4g, they just barley changed it so that its throttled server side
If they become ATT and throttle all data then screw Verizon
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I see no mention of this on their 4G mobile page.
EDIT: Found it using Google:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/veriz...ing-very-shortly-lte-tiered-pricing-too/45482
Blog post though...

ZDNET was using direct quotes!! The guy that wrote the article is
Larry Dignan is Editor in Chief of ZDNet and SmartPlanet as well as Editorial Director of ZDNet's sister site TechRepublic.
EDITOR IN CHIEF OF ZDNET

bogatyr said:
I see no mention of this on their 4G mobile page.
EDIT: Found it using Google:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/veriz...ing-very-shortly-lte-tiered-pricing-too/45482
Blog post though...
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well dont u think verizon would have said something? i just talked to a rep and they said that if a change like that was gunna happen ,, they woulod have been told ,, also said as far as a release ,, i was told all she was told was it will be released sometime this month lol

tazzpatriot said:
well dont u think verizon would have said something? i just talked to a rep and they said that if a change like that was gunna happen ,, they woulod have been told ,, also said as far as a release ,, i was told all she was told was it will be released sometime this month lol
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Eh, I don't trust blogs much anyways. If they do make it tiered, I'll pass on upgrading though.

I guess I don't know what tier means. But are yall talking about the 5 gig for 50.00 & the 8 gig for 80.00 plan or something else.
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Bern612 said:
I guess I don't know what tier means. But are yall talking about the 5 gig for 50.00 & the 8 gig for 80.00 plan or something else.
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Some concept but on a phone.
Prices will be different. That sucks
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Some concept but on a phone.
Prices will be different. That sucks
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It will probably be very similar to AT&T's data caps, that is, not at all in-line with the actual cost of bandwidth.

magnafides said:
It will probably be very similar to AT&T's data caps, that is, not at all in-line with the actual cost of bandwidth.
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What's on at&TS plan? I been on vzw for ever.
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bogatyr said:
Eh, I don't trust blogs much anyways. If they do make it tiered, I'll pass on upgrading though.
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Nor do I trust CSR's and their wealth of information, or lack there of if you will.

i agree with everyone jumping to conclusions way too fast just because some random unnamed person said that the phone will be released on a certain date or some other rumor.
as for the "tiered" data i really hope verizon doesn't implement anything like at&t's data plans and i hope there will still be an option for unlimited i being stuck to a number doesn't work for me lol

Lol I think its funny.. I can't think of anything like this haha.. people going nutts for a phone I not once heard Verizon say what day they was releasing it .. id lmao if they decided to skip it haha

I read the tiered is supposed to bring in more customers who don't use much data
As in a tiered plan to make the phone cheaper but retaining the unlimited plan, wherever you got your source they only quoted a single sentence, not the whole announcement. They also announced that the TB is coming soon if that even matters anymore
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newalker91 said:
..... Some people also only need a small amount of data as they're consistently within WiFi range and would rather have the higher speeds anyways.
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Is there a plan or option (on any carrier) that allows for data via wifi only? That way you wouldn't be using your carriers data bandwidth you would be using your home/work or Starbucks network.
Just curious.

Are there any ways to work around the data cap/throttle?

Just wondering if anyone can help me out with any tweaks to beat this damn 60kbps throttle from tmobile. I have tried the patch that was created for the froyo roms but it didn't work for me. Any information would be greatly appreciated please PM me. Its best the information isn't posted publicly due to the brown nosing tmobile turds that troll these forums. Thanks in advance.
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pm me too! im at day 2 of my billing cycle and am already at 1.5GB/ month out of the 5GB i get capped every month! i dont believe there is a way around it though!!

Stop being cheap and buy the 10gb plan lol
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There is no way around the cap. It is done of T-Mobiles servers and linked to your SIM card. Many people have tried to get around it without any luck.

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Stop being cheap and buy the 10gb plan lol
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I can dig what you're saying but I'd like to think of it as being resourceful rather than cheap. After all it is android, several exploits and loopholes exist for other devices already. Ill keep fishing and maybe I can figure it out. Maybe IP/MAC spoofing would work to avoid the asshats at T-Mobile.
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Stop being cheap and buy the 10gb plan lol
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thats what i did lol theres your throttle fix.

It's not a work-around to the T-Mobile cap exactly. But by fine tuning when and how your installed apps use data, can keep you under the cap. For example instead of streaming podcast with Mediafly I installed DogCatcher. I set the download permissions for the application to only update when connected to WiFi and plugged in.
That alone has cut my data usage in half. Fine tuning other settings in apps like email, facebook and twitter have also cut down my data usage. I went from always bumping the data cap to moving to the next lowest data rate plan.
Something to consider!

crx4xharder said:
Stop being cheap and buy the 10gb plan lol
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im not being cheap at all!! but is it possible i can up to the 10GB/ month? i just started a 2 yr contract 2 months ago and i get capped everymonth so far to 56k speeds...i pay 100 dollars a month and i think thats alot already! thats no fun when i dont get access to wifi everywhete like most of you.

If you change your phone number & get a new SIM chip it resets yer data usage. Setup google voice, get 5GIG plan - wait 2 weeks & spend $15 to have phone number changed and get another 5Gig. Two more weeks, billing cycle starts over, another 5GIG. Wait 2 more weeks and change phone number again - 5 more gig. Repeat every month. If you use google voice then everyone will still have your phone number. I think to get the 10gig plan it's 30 bucks so this saves you 15 bucks a month. Of course its also a huge pain in the ass for 15 bucks.

Lol that's actually pretty damn clever. A huge undertaking, but still clever. Well done.
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Well I found the best solution. Screw T-Mobile and every lie they represent. I switched to sprints true unlimited with no datacap or throttle. Thanks for all of yalls feedback.
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Goose0121 said:
Well I found the best solution. Screw T-Mobile and every lie they represent. I switched to sprints true unlimited with no datacap or throttle. Thanks for all of yalls feedback.
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Well those of us who like data speed don't have the option of Sprint.
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Switchbg to sprint would = same speed as capd speed for tmo that's why I swtch from sprint
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Well u guess your service area for Sprint kinda sucks, the data speeds are way faster on this phone than they ever were on my g2x
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Goose0121 said:
Well u guess your service area for Sprint kinda sucks, the data speeds are way faster on this phone than they ever were on my g2x
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Sprint is unlimited and true they don't throttle - HOWEVER what they do is kick you off the network and cancel your contract if you use "too much" data. Happened to me a year or two ago.

Well regardless, I'm satisfied with the new beast. And still have the G2X on the side to play around with.
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HAHA i still have the old $25 unlimited NO throttle plan

zero86ea said:
im not being cheap at all!! but is it possible i can up to the 10GB/ month? i just started a 2 yr contract 2 months ago and i get capped everymonth so far to 56k speeds...i pay 100 dollars a month and i think thats alot already! thats no fun when i dont get access to wifi everywhete like most of you.
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$10 more and u will have 5g. Just call the customer service and ask them. I did and I'm on 5g. $87.08 a month for me. But I got a 15% discount cause I'm a firefighter or it would be 102.98
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[BREAKING NEWS] Those on grandfathered Unlimited Data

http://www.phonedog.com/2011/07/28/at-t-to-begin-throttling-unlimited-data-users-in-october/
Talks of throttling the unlimited Data usage for many of you inspire users.
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mattmiller said:
http://www.phonedog.com/2011/07/28/at-t-to-begin-throttling-unlimited-data-users-in-october/
Talks of throttling the unlimited Data usage for many of you inspire users.
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Suckness if true

I'm no longer under contract, but I'll ride the unlimited data for the time being.

FML .
The question I have, though, is if using a non-AT&T radio could stop the ability to be throttled. Anyone care to chime in?

The throttling isn't done on the device, it's done on their end.
EDIT: ATT FTL if this is true.

After an extensive call with att, they said this will NOT be happening.

Tx Redneck said:
After an extensive call with att, they said this will NOT be happening.
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That's great news, I was about to call them and give them a what for.
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nash2000 said:
That's great news, I was about to call them and give them a what for.
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Lol
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I stayed with unlimited because friends told me the 2g plan always went over. Not fair I gotta suffer and pay more.
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Yeah the same kind of service when I asked about tethering thru WiFi hotspot or usb,they said it was ok. You really think they have a clue? I've worked at ATT and Sprint,they only say the stuff they know,and the stuff they don't know,well...kinda a hush hush. I'll guarantee it will happen.
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After an extensive call with att, they said this will NOT be happening.
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Yeah the same kind of service when I asked about tethering thru WiFi hotspot or usb,they said it was ok. You really think they have a clue? I've worked at ATT and Sprint,they only say the stuff they know,and the stuff they don't know,well...kinda a hush hush. I'll guarantee it will happen.
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I don't discount your having worked for them and what you experienced, but if I have it in writing, it ain't happenin to me.

It's all a money grab.
Combine cellular data limits and AT&T's home DSL data limits along with Netflix (and every other provider) trying to force us into using streaming media and VoIP, and we get screwed.

Sunamabeech!
http://www.slashgear.com/att-confirms-data-throttling-to-start-october-1-29168428/
http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=20535&cdvn=news&newsarticleid=32318&mapcode=corporate

The top 5% feel the pain it looks like. I suppose if you are using 10+ gigs a month I am not sure I feel for ya. Personally I have never gone over 5 but I also have internet service at Home.
Here come the "I pay for unlimited" posts.

If it doesn't affect me I don't care. I use maybe 3 gigs a month..
If it adversely affects me then It will give me reasons to look else where when I get to re-up again.
Anyone know if this is enough of a change to the plan you signed up for to allow canceling the account?

Lmao WiFi and using maybe 4gigs works for me.imo
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Yeah the same kind of service when I asked about tethering thru WiFi hotspot or usb,they said it was ok. You really think they have a clue? I've worked at ATT and Sprint,they only say the stuff they know,and the stuff they don't know,well...kinda a hush hush. I'll guarantee it will happen.
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I am on the unlimited plan and got sent a letter threatening to drop me to a tiered plan if I do not stop tethering via usb. Can they do that?
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Read about the limit
I read on a post yesterday (can't find it now) that the expected threshold for throttling will be somewhere in the vicinity of 50gb a month. In my mind, reasonable.

Holy crap. My biggest month was 16 and I thought that was a lot lol
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rpogorek said:
I read on a post yesterday (can't find it now) that the expected threshold for throttling will be somewhere in the vicinity of 50gb a month. In my mind, reasonable.
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You must find that NAO!

Unlimited Verizon Data plan anyone???

I hope that I'm not out of line posting this in the "general" forum. But I am getting ready to leave verizon so i can get the nexus 4 (and save a little cash on the monthly bills) and I really hate to see these two unlimited data plans i worked so hard to take advantage of and keep for so long just go to waste. Ive still got a little over a year left on the current plan and it has two lines on it, both have the unlimited 29.99 4g data added to them. I would feel silly just letting them go to waste if someone would be interested in assuming the remainder of the contract term. PM me if you happen to be interested. If i'm out of line in posting this then feel free to delete it with my apologies in mind. Also, I havent looked into separating the Lines yet in you only want one but I can investigate the possiblilty if you only need one...

Also go to androidcentral and androidforums. Plenty of people looking for unlimited data
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Pm sent
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I love me some unlimited data. Halfway through the month and over 7 gigs used. But for the right offer...
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Ebay
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dirtfoot said:
I love me some unlimited data. Halfway through the month and over 7 gigs used. But for the right offer...
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Ya partner you can't be trying to sell it here. I would guess giving it away... Assuming that's what the op is doing is still against the rules, but selling definitely is.
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Cto
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Cto
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This
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I assumed the OP was selling. After re reading it perhaps not, but i was only making a joke. I suppose I should have followed my statement with the "lol" that I see used in every other post. To clarify, I am not selling my phone lines.
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I want & need unlimited data yo!!
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Is this still available?
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I miss having unlimited data (sigh)... I'm just 1/3 the way in the billing cycle and I already reached 1.9gb.
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sooo glad I've kept my unlimited data...
Didn't even occur to me that you could transfer the account/plan to another...

me too, I started off with unlimited data then verizon changed midstream and if one wanted to upgrade the Ph , welp,, i was crap ooutta luck.. wife has a simple cell that allows her to call and reciave calls and thats all she wants,, i fell like verizon got the Gold Mine and i got the SHAFT.. i dont have any data share with her. how dumb does verizon think all of are.. Promise us 1 thing and then change.. of course VZW told me if i had a device already Pd for i could use the unlimited plan. i wonder what they do if i buy out my contract.. would i have to turn my GS3 in or keep it.. maybe it would be considered bought n paid for ? just blowin off some frustration men, so cut me some slack,,

I agree
I upgraded my phone right before Verizon forced people over the Share Everything plan, and I know they must hate me...lol

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me too, I started off with unlimited data then verizon changed midstream and if one wanted to upgrade the Ph , welp,, i was crap ooutta luck.. wife has a simple cell that allows her to call and reciave calls and thats all she wants,, i fell like verizon got the Gold Mine and i got the SHAFT.. i dont have any data share with her. how dumb does verizon think all of are.. Promise us 1 thing and then change.. of course VZW told me if i had a device already Pd for i could use the unlimited plan. i wonder what they do if i buy out my contract.. would i have to turn my GS3 in or keep it.. maybe it would be considered bought n paid for ? just blowin off some frustration men, so cut me some slack,,
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If you pay the ETF, you keep your phone...
Only time I ever knew this to be different from anyone was with ATT back in the day when they were exclusive with the iPhone they used to pull some crap trying to take the iPhone back even if you paid the ETF if you cancelled in the first...3 months maybe? Been a while so I don't remember for sure.
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I'm not sure how it happened, but when I upgraded through Verizon to my S3 from my DX back in August someone didn't switch me off of my unlimited data. Had it ever since. Think I just got extremely lucky.
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Unlimited data guy here. I just upgrade on my other lines to keep it. Really getting sick of getting bent over by Verizon though, so may switch to T-Mobile soon. So, you may see one of these from me here soon....
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1ManWolfePack said:
Unlimited data guy here. I just upgrade on my other lines to keep it. Really getting sick of getting bent over by Verizon though, so may switch to T-Mobile soon. So, you may see one of these from me here soon....
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Hey wolf not sure it's true but heard T-Mobile might have a plan where you get a new phone and just pay monthly on it with your bill/2 year plan of course I think $20a month extra, have you heard if this?
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Hey wolf not sure it's true but heard T-Mobile might have a plan where you get a new phone and just pay monthly on it with your bill/2 year plan of course I think $20a month extra, have you heard if this?
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Didn't hear that exactly, but I know T-Mo is making some moves.
I just want the ability to rock any phone that is announced at CES. You can't do that on CDMA proprietary technology....
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[Q]Evade Data Cap/Throttle

I've seen some methods on trying to evade the data cap on certain phones.. I have yet to see if it works with our Blaze.. I've used my 2 Gigabytes on Tmobiles supposedly unlimited plan.. Is there a way to avoid getting throttled after you've used the limit you get?
METHODS I HAVE FOUND
DTR- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1435085
4G Hack- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1645521
MythBusting- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=987029
APN Trick- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1408812

xWolf13 said:
I've seen some methods on trying to evade the data cap on certain phones.. I have yet to see if it works with our Blaze.. I've used my 2 Gigabytes on Tmobiles supposedly unlimited plan.. Is there a way to avoid getting throttled after you've used the limit you get?
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im with you... I've tried everything imaginable... at least when verizon had unlimited, it was truly unlimited. I'll never forget a couple years ago when 3G/LTE went down in the Savanahh, GA area when I was stationed at Fort Stewart, I called Verizon and said "Im not getting data, do you throttle services?" Rep said "We shouldn't unless you're in the top 5% of subscribers, let me check your account"... clickety click click click of the keyboard "...oh my. I have to say, that is the highest useage I've ever personally seen. You're at 33 GB of LTE used.". I was only 12 days into my billing period at the time

There is a company called telcel America I used them for 4 months they had unlimited service for 45 a month no throttling whatsoever to the best of my knowledge they ran on on tmobiles network I used 5 gig a month 10 MBS down 2 up 2 weeks ago they stopped but they still have the $60 plan that you get unlimited talking to mexico I think sorry do the badly written post in a rush will update later
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The only sure-fire method I know of is using WiFi. Sorry
Although I'm sure somebody has created a workaround

It sucks that you get punished for using your phone for what it was meant to do. Listening to Pandora at work all week and I'm halfway to my limit.

By the way I still have a Verizon grandfather plan that I am looking to get rid of !!
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That's what I like about the $30 Monthly4G plan, I haven't hit the 5gb soft cap yet. And vonage mobile works great for extra free minutes.

I used to have the T-Mobile Unlimited 3G plan when I had a BlackBerry, and I would regularly break 20-30GB data on it when I was still going to school and still be able to maintain 3G speeds.
When I upgraded to the Blaze I was forced to switch to their new "Unlimited" plan, which seems to choke the speeds down around 5-6GB. Although this month I'm already around 7GB and I still pull in decent H+ speeds between 8 and 12Mbps, so maybe they only restrict the speeds during peak hours or something.

I have been doing research(ugh. feels like school lol) and I stumbled upon this. Since I've been using the UVMC Radio from the Hercules I think this should work. Note. It says to do these methods before getting throttled. I don't know if it works because I am getting throttled already..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1408812
Edit: Been reading on the thread. People say its been patched. Cant say that's true yet.

xWolf13 said:
I have been doing research(ugh. feels like school lol) and I stumbled upon this. Since I've been using the UVMC Radio from the Hercules I think this should work. Note. It says to do these methods before getting throttled. I don't know if it works because I am getting throttled already..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1408812
Edit: Been reading on the thread. People say its been patched. Cant say that's true yet.
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Looks ok. Think I might give it a try
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Looks ok. Think I might give it a try
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Google is now my bestest friend ever lol. Found many methods to try! Will post links in OP later..

Updated OP with my findings.

Has anyone who isn't throttled yet found any of these to work? I'm already throttled

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Has anyone who isn't throttled yet found any of these to work? I'm already throttled
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I will try these today & see which one seems to work. I'll give you guys an update later
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I tried the 4G hack but I can't confirm it works yet since I just got my data count refreshed on the 27th on the start of the new cycle.
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Any CONFIRMED solutions yet?
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Off topic, sorry OP
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By the way I still have a Verizon grandfather plan that I am looking to get rid of !!
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Fer realz? I'd take it off your hands for you

Pm me will try to work it out
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I can confirm the 4G hack doesn't work...well at least not for me it didn't.
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Any proven results? looks interesting since I have the 5GB plan and some times I go over my limit.
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